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April 14, 2010

In today’s news about Buchenwald…

Filed under: Buchenwald, Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 12:21 pm

Today I read this about Buchenwald on this web site:

“A crass case in point was Buchenwald, one of the more infamous Nazi camps, where hundreds of thousands had been incarcerated and upwards of 50,000 perished, some in the most sadistic fashion, from Jews who were gassed to priests who were crucified upside down. Americans liberated Buchenwald on April 11, 1945.”

I was appalled when I learned that this was written by Dr. Paul Kengor, who is a professor of political science and executive director of The Center for Vision & Values at Grove City College. Professor Kengor has written these books: The Judge: William P. Clark, Ronald Reagan’s Top Hand, God and Ronald Reagan and The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism.

I haven’t written any books, but if I ever do, I will include sources and photos to back up statements like “Jews were gassed” and “priests were crucified upside down” at Buchenwald.

Where are the photos of the Buchenwald gas chamber? I’m from Missouri; you’ll have to show me. Was the Buchenwald gas chamber blown up to destroy the evidence?  If so, where are the photos of the ruins of the gas chamber?

Dachau, Sachsenhausen and Mauthausen, the other Nazi camps that were comparable to Buchenwald, had shower rooms in their crematoria, but the shower rooms were actually gas chambers where prisoners were murdered. Buchenwald was unique in that it was the only major concentration camp where a shower room in the crematorium was not used to gas the prisoners. There was no shower room in the Buchenwald crematorium; there was only a small shower, big enough for two people, as shown in the photo below.

Bathroom in Buchenwald crematorium has small shower

Door into bathroom on the left; elevator on the right

The photo above shows the Buchenwald crematorium; the door into the bathroom is on the left and the elevator that was used to bring the dead bodies up from the basement is on the right.

All the Catholic priests were consolidated into the Dachau concentration camp.  You can read all about the priests here. Here is a quote from that web page:

“Father William J. O’Malley, a Jesuit priest, wrote the following:  The Rev. Andreas Reiser, a German, was crowned with barbed wire and a group of Jewish prisoners was forced to hail him as their king, and the Rev. Stanislaus Bednarski, a Pole, was hanged on a cross.”

Stories of crucifixion in the concentration camps might be a reference to the infamous hanging punishment.

The hanging punishment was originated by Martin Sommer, an SS man who was in charge of the Bunker (a prison within the prison) at Buchenwald. This punishment was abolished at Dachau by Commandant Martin Weiss in 1942. Sommer left Buchenwald when he was sent to fight on the Eastern front in 1943.

Fake photo that was included in 1965 Dachau Museum

The photograph above, taken inside the old Dachau Museum in May 2001, shows a scene at Buchenwald that was created in 1958 for an East German DEFA film. (Source: H. Obenaus, “Das Foto vom Baumhängen: Ein Bild geht um die Welt,” in Stiftung Topographie des Terrors Berlin (ed.), Gedenkstätten-Rundbrief no. 68, Berlin, October 1995, pp. 3-8) This fake photo is not included in the new Dachau Museum which opened in 2003, but all the tour guides at Dachau dwell at length on the hanging punishment, which was seldom used.

Ronald J. Rychlak wrote the following about what he read in a book by Father Jean Bernard entitled Priestblock 25487:

“Priests at Dachau were not marked for death by being shot or gassed as a group, but over two thousand of them died there from disease, starvation, and general brutality. One year, the Nazis “celebrated” Good Friday by torturing 60 priests. They tied the priests’ hands behind their backs, put chains around their wrists, and hoisted them up by the chains. The weight of the priests’ bodies twisted and pulled their joints apart. Several of the priests died, and many others were left permanently disabled. The Nazis, of course, threatened to repeat the event if their orders were not carried out.”

The above quote describes the hanging punishment, as shown in the fake photo above.

10 Comments

  1. can someone tell me who was the Irish person incarcerated at Dachau concentration camp? thank you

    Comment by florin berechet — September 15, 2010 @ 12:51 am

    • You are the third person to ask this question. Where did you hear that there was an Irish person incarcerated at Dachau? As far as I know, there was no Irish prisoner at Dachau. There was a British SOE agent who was using the code name of Patrick O’Leary at Dachau; his real name was Albert Guerisse and he was from Belgium. There was an American citizen, who was Irish, that was in the 42nd Division which liberated Dachau; his name was Teddy Dixon.

      There were lots of priests who were prisoners at Dachau. Maybe one of them was ethnic Irish, but I don’t think any of the priests were citizens of Ireland.

      The majority of the prisoners at Dachau were Polish Catholics who were there because they were captured while fighting with the Polish Resistance. There were also Resistance fighters from France and other countries that were occupied by Germany, but I don’t know of any reason that anyone from Ireland would have been sent to a concentration camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 15, 2010 @ 6:59 am

    • Are you perhaps thinking of Gordon Hogan, who is an Irish tour guide at Dachau? Or maybe you are thinking of Joaquim Peiper, the SS officer who yelled out “It’s a long way to Tipperary,” to some American POWs as he rode by on his tank during the Battle of the Bulge; he was a prisoner at Dachau after the camp was made into War Crimes Enclosure No. 1 after the war.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 15, 2010 @ 7:47 am

  2. there is a photo of the gas chamber as the Soviets found it in the memorial guide book and on the web here
    http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee226/mralbertfish/SachsenH_GC.jpg

    you can find where this image was originally posted in a not especially illuminating discussion here.

    Neugierig on Werner Maser’s take on Sachsenhausen might be more worthwhile for reading

    http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/916/t/Sachsenhausen-gas-chambers.html?page=1

    Comment by little grey rabbit — April 15, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

    • Thanks for the photo of the Sachsenhausen gas chamber. It does have a window. Notice that the shower heads are suspended from the pipes, just like the American Congressmen described the shower heads at Dachau after their visit on May 1, 1945.

      The post by Neugierig on the RODOH forum has quotes from my web site, which were not attributed to scrapbookpages.com.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 16, 2010 @ 12:02 am

    • there is a photo of the gas chamber as the Soviets found it in the memorial guide book and on the web here
      http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee226/mralbertfish/SachsenH_GC.jpg

      Nice shower room. Not a gas chamber.

      Comment by sceptic — April 16, 2010 @ 7:13 pm

  3. with respect, even though I can understand whatever the risk you don’t want to take it, the risk of that happening is virtually zero.

    If you said Dachau has a shower room, the Jews were the synagogue of Satan and started putting swastikas on your site and advertising trips to look for UFOs in antarctica, then perhaps you could have reason to be concerned.

    I dont say this in order to suggest you should or should not put anything on your site. Simply so that you don’t have unrealistic fears.

    The gas chamber in Sachsenhausen had a nice glass window in it.

    Comment by little grey rabbit — April 15, 2010 @ 5:40 am

    • The gas chamber at Sachsenhausen was blown up by the GDR (East German government) in the 1950s, so I only saw the floor of it, which was all that was left. However, a gas chamber at Majdanek has a glass window in it.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 15, 2010 @ 7:16 am

  4. You wrote:
    Dachau, Sachsenhausen and Mauthausen, the other Nazi camps that were comparable to Buchenwald, had shower rooms in their crematoria, but the shower rooms were actually gas chambers where prisoners were murdered. Buchenwald was unique in that it was the only major concentration camp where a shower room in the crematorium was not used to gas the prisoners.

    I am surprised that you so categorically say the shower rooms at these other camps were really gas chambers, since on your own website you present evidence and pictures that refute this claim. Especially in your section on Dachau. I have not really studied your pages on Sachsenhausen and Mauthausen well enough.

    How do you justify saying this about Dachau — that the shower room in the Crematoria building was a gas chamber? Just because the camp administration now says so?

    Comment by sceptic — April 14, 2010 @ 12:38 pm

    • I will be going to Germany for 10 days in May. I don’t want to be arrested at the airport and thrown into prison for 5 years. As far as the law in Germany is concerned, Dachau, Sachsenhausen and Mauthausen all had shower rooms that were really gas chambers. Former prisoners at Buchenwald testified at the Nuremberg IMT that Buchenwald had a gas chamber, and this was even mentioned in the prosecution’s summation of the proceedings, as though it had been proved that there was a gas chamber at Buchenwald. However, it is now admitted that there was no gas chamber at Buchenwald, so there is no danger that I will go to prison for 5 years for saying that.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 14, 2010 @ 12:50 pm


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