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May 25, 2010

SS soldiers have an undeserved bad reputation

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 10:08 am

I am posting today in answer to a comment made by “tampalam” on my post about the scene in Shutter Island where SS soldiers are killed by the American liberators of Dachau.

“Tampalam” wrote: “I have no pity for any member of the SS. They knew what they were doing and they knew about the holocaust. There is no distinction between regular and Waffen SS. However, the summary execution of any person who has surrendered is wrong.”

This opinion of the SS seems to be shared by many people who believe Allied propaganda about the SS, which is totally wrong with regard to the true nature of the SS.

Dead Waffen-SS soldier whose head was blown off by American liberators

First of all, there was a distinction between “regular” and Waffen-SS.  I assume that “tampalam” was referring to the Totenkopfverbände as the “regular” SS.  Totenkopfverbände means Death’s Head unit; these were the SS soldiers who guarded the camps.  However, “tampalam” is right that the guards and the Waffen-SS soldiers were interchangeable: the Death’s Head SS soldiers could be sent to the battle front at any time, and Waffen-SS soldiers could be sent to the camps for guard duty when they were wounded in battle and could no longer fight.

The letters SS stand for Schutzstaffel, which means protection squad.  The SS started in 1925 with 8 men who were Hitler’s personal body guards. The Waffen-SS was the combat unit of the SS; the term Waffen-SS literally means “Weapons SS.”

The Waffen-SS was founded in 1939 after the SS was split into two units. The title of Waffen-SS became official on 2 March, 1940. Although nominally under the leadership of Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, the Waffen-SS saw action during World War II under the de facto operational control of the Wehrmacht, which was the regular German army. By the end of World War II, the Waffen-SS had grown to 39 Divisions, which served as elite combat troops alongside the Wehrmacht.

In American terms, the Waffen-SS was comparable to the US Marines, but unlike the Marines, the Waffen-SS had volunteer divisions from many other countries. In 1944, there were 910,000 soldiers fighting on the side of Germany in the Waffen-SS, but less than half of these SS men had been born in Germany; there were 310,000 ethnic Germans from other countries such as Rumania, Yugoslavia and Hungary who were fighting with the Waffen-SS.

Dachau prisoner threatens Hungarian SS soldier

The photo above shows a Polish prisoner at Dachau who was given a rifle by the American liberators and allowed to confront a Hungarian SS soldier, who was sent from the battlefield to surrender the Dachau camp. Notice the cap that the Hungarian soldier is wearing. This same Polish prisoner, who was a member of the Polish Resistance, is shown in the center of the photo below, celebrating the killing of  Waffen-SS soldiers at Dachau. Notice that he has a cigarette hanging out of his mouth in both photos.

Polish Resistance fighters celebrate their victory at Dachau

Altogether, there were 200,000 volunteers in the SS from other countries including Great Britain.  There were 40,000 Spanish volunteers in the Waffen-SS, and another 40,000 volunteers from Belgium. The Dutch volunteers numbered 50,000. There were 20,000 Frenchmen in the Charlemagne Division from France, and there was a Flemish Division from Flanders.

The Waffen-SS included three Divisions from Finland, and volunteers from Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Denmark. There were also Waffen-SS units from the Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia and Armenia.

So why were soldiers from other countries fighting on the side of Germany?  Because the Germans were fighting the Communists, and these soldiers did not want Europe to be taken over by the Communists.  America fought on the side of Communism and American President Franklin D. Roosevelt gave half of Europe to the Communists at the Yalta Conference.  It was not until 1989, with the fall of the Soviet Union, that Europe was freed from Communism.

John Toland wrote in his book entitled Adolf Hitler, that Himmler wanted his SS soldiers “to be hard but not hardened.” Regarding Himmler’s reason for establishing SS training centers, such as the one at Dachau, Toland wrote the following:

He imbued the SS, therefore, not only with a sense of racial superiority but with the hard virtues of loyalty, comradeship, duty, truth, diligence, honesty and knighthood. His SS, as the elite of the party, was the elite of the German Volk, and therefore the elite of the entire world. By establishing castles of the order to indoctrinate SS members in his ideals, he hoped to breed a New Man, “far finer and more valuable than the world had yet seen.”

The “castle of the order” referred to in the paragraph above was located at Wewelsburg, Germany. You can read all about the Wewelsburg castle here.

Death’s Head Emblem of the SS

The words on the SS emblem, translated into English, are “My Honor is named Loyalty.”

The SS soldiers were held to higher standards than regular Wehrmacht soldiers in the German Army and the SS was subjected to the strictest discipline. Sentences handed down by SS courts were more severe than sentences passed by other courts for the same offense.

A separate wing on the east side of the bunker (camp prison) at Dachau was reserved for SS soldiers who had committed a criminal act. This section has been torn down and can no longer be seen at the Dachau Memorial Site. When Dachau was liberated on April 29, 1945, there were 128 SS men incarcerated in the Dachau bunker. They were released and given the job of guarding the prisoners until the American liberators arrived.  Most of the regular guards at Dachau had fled the night before the camp was liberated.

At the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal, SS Lt. General Ernst Kaltenbrunner testified that there were 13 Stammlager (main concentration camps) in the Nazi camp system. One of these camps was Matzgau, located near Danzig; it was a camp where SS guards were imprisoned for offenses such as physical mistreatment of concentration camp prisoners, embezzlement, or theft.  Yet tour guides at Dachau routinely tell visitors that the guards could do anything they wanted to with regard to abusing or killing the prisoners.

In 1943,  a Waffen-SS officer named Dr. Georg Konrad Morgen, who was also an attorney, was authorized by Himmler to conduct investigations into corruption and brutality in the concentration camps. Around 800 investigations of the SS were conducted, which resulted in around 200 indictments.

Among those who were indicted by Morgen was Amon Goeth, the Commandant who was featured in the film, Schindler’s List. Goeth was arrested and was awaiting trial when World War II ended.  Dr. Morgen spent two months at Dachau doing an investigation of the camp but found no crimes that had been committed by the SS men at Dachau.  The Dachau commandant, Martin Gottfried Weiss, was given a good report.  Yet he was prosecuted by an American Military Tribunal and hanged after he was convicted.  His crime was that he was the Commandant of a Nazi concentration camp and as such, he was a war criminal.

Even before Morgen started his investigations, two of the Commandants of Dachau, Hilmar Wäckerle and Alex Piorkowski, had been dismissed from their jobs by Himmler, after accusations of murder in the camp were brought to his attention.  The common belief that the SS guards at Dachau and other camps were allowed to abuse or kill the prisoners is completely unfounded. In spite of this, tour guides at Dachau tell visitors that the SS men were trained in a “school of terror” at Dachau, when they were actually trained to be concentration camp administrators.

You can read more about the history of the SS on my web site here.

A former German SS soldier, who is now an American citizen, wrote a book entitled SS Panzergrenadier: A True Story of World War II, about his army service when he was a teen-aged volunteer in the 1st SS Leibstandarte Division of the Waffen-SS.  In his book, Schmidt defends the SS and describes the life of an SS soldier in World War II.  He also writes about his days as a member of the Hitler Youth.

The photo below is from the cover of his book.

Hans Schmidt as a teen-aged Waffen-SS soldier

46 Comments »

  1. Nazism is/stays a magnet for week brothers. Everywhere where the wehrmacht came, wholesale death followed. The ss was subordinate to the wehrmacht. The difference being the ss were schooled in nazist ideology, and because of this were “trusted” with better, newer and more weapons than the Heer. They had no special training, nor did their high command, they’re farmboys. himmler was a chicken farmer’s son. They got infamous by their wreckless fighting, resulting in high death rates. History judges them just.

    Comment by Rick — September 23, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

    • What are “week brothers”? The German Army today uses the term Heer, but I don’t think the term Heer was used during World War II.

      You wrote: “Everywhere where the wehrmacht came, wholesale death followed.” Bad Germans! The German Army killed people. Unlike the Allied armies who didn’t kill anyone.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 23, 2013 @ 5:09 pm

  2. This is a poor poor summary of not only the SS but of the “volunteers”you call them. The hat comparison is so unintelligent, if any one person believes they are the same then ignorance is extremely contagious. If, and only, if that hat is comparable to that of the Hungarian soldier’s is because the prisoner was allowed to take it in the same context the prisoner was given a gun and allowed to confront the SS soldier. Stupid people blame others for the “hand” they were dealt. Most of the survivors do not blame anything except ignorance for the horrible atrocities they endured. Everyone knows that the soldiers were brain washed and terrified for their own lives exactly like the victims. Only difference is the victims haven’t made killing, degrading those who attacked them, when they are the only ones that have a legitimate reason to hate all people for eternity. I seriously had to force myself to finish this article. I feel sorry for you and I will pray that you are forgiven for you do not know what you say. I pray that others (when only really God will) can look past your ignorance and understand how scared you are of living your own life, for your own reasons and your own accountability. The JEWS are still here if you need someone to talk to about others stealing a life that was not their own.

    Comment by Esmeralda — September 10, 2013 @ 8:01 pm

    • Hungarian soldiers in the SS were sent to Dachau to keep order during the surrender of the Dachau camp. Hungarian soldiers in the SS were also sent to Bergen-Belsen when that camp was voluntarily turned over to the British. In both cases, these soldiers were killed by the Allies because they were in the camp at the time of the surrender.

      I did not COMPARE the hat worn by the Hungarian soldier to anything. I merely pointed out the hat, which identifies the soldier as Hungarian. Hungary was allies with Germany at the start of World War II, but they later went over to the other side.

      The Dachau prisoner in the photo was a non-Jewish Polish prisoner, who had been sent to the camp because he was fighting as an illegal combatant. He was given a gun by the American liberators and allowed to kill the SS men in the camp, who had surrendered, and were Prisoners of War. The German SS men, who had surrendered at Dachau, were not given the rights of a POW under the Geneva Convention. They were lined up against a wall and shot; this was a war crime committed by the American liberators of Dachau.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 11, 2013 @ 8:02 am

  3. America and Britain worse ? this is drivel. The Germans started the war, they murdered over 6 million Jews, and by most accounts a similar number of Poles and in the region of 20 million Russians. They transported millions of people across Europe to their deaths – this has been documented and proven. They set new standards for barbarism, degeneracy and bestiality. They used children for target and bayonet practice and devised ever more wicked means to inflict pain. In their lunacy they defined themselves as the master race, all others were destined to be slaves or be exterminated.
    ….and as we see here – they are stupid and have learned nothing from their hideous and shameful past

    Comment by smo — April 26, 2013 @ 5:49 am

    • You forgot to mention that, during World War I, the Germans cut the hands off the babies in Belgium.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 26, 2013 @ 8:19 am

  4. Waffen SS was a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION OF SAVAGES!! Criminals deserved nothing but a bullet in the head, too bad red army along with allies forces saved some of them, they all deserved a bullet in the head, or some crappy tree branch. “US so called inflicted atrocities” were mealy an answer to what German “brave” army initiated 6 years before to the civilians of Poland, Czech Republic, Soviet union and so on. I guess there still live a number of waffen SS children that live in sweet denial, but yes you are an offspring of common SCUM SAVAGES and MURDERERS. AND NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT.

    Comment by Navajo — December 16, 2012 @ 7:44 pm

  5. waffen -ss the most loyal, and the best fighting force.

    Comment by álvaro — September 10, 2012 @ 4:14 pm

  6. This is the most disgusting and unbelievable account heroism I’ve ever read. The holocaust didn’t happen? Nazis are heroes? Unbelievable.

    While there may be men who were genuine in their lives, they were still part of the genocide whether or not they were pulling triggers.

    So every country is just after Germany and spreading propoganda about the German soldiers that supported a delusional leader like Hitler? There are no facts to even support the theory. Germany was not in any shape, form or fashion going to be able to take over the world.

    The people that feel that Americans or gross and have serious problems, you’re right. There are instances that soldiers have done grotesque things not supported by the government. But so did German soldiers. Don’t play the innocent ol us game.

    You should be ashamed and the lack of reponsibilty that you maintain for the actions committed against humanity. If you can’t as a human look at other humans as only that, you do not deserve a voice that can reach people. We are all created equally.

    It’s still hard to imagine that you or anyone would deny the holocaust. There a pictures, testimonies and documents that prove the issues. Those were not changed as history goes. If it were lies, eventually stories cross.

    As far having to learn Spanish because of an invasion of Mexican natives. That’s wrong. Completely wrong.

    Grow up, take responsibility. After committing crimes like Nazis did, they all should have been shot outside their camp. To deny their wrongdoing is a shame.

    Comment by KP — August 11, 2012 @ 10:08 pm

    • Where in this blog post did I “deny the Holocaust”? I did not write the word Holocaust. I quoted a comment which contained the word “Holocaust” but I did not write this word myself. I did not write the word “Nazis.” I did write the word Nazi as an adjective to distinguish the camps in Germany from similar camps in other countries, such as America. I did not write that “Nazis are heroes.” You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2012 @ 8:14 am

  7. Yes.

    Comment by Johanna — December 11, 2011 @ 11:22 am

  8. So, after all these decades we are now supposed to believe that Hitler and the Nazis were actually heroes, that the USA and Britain started the war, members of the SS were kindly gentlemen that never killed anyone and Hitler invaded Poland and Russia because he felt threatened? All the books I’ve read about WWII are a pack of lies?
    Wouldn’t that have been wonderful if Hitler and his Nazis had won the war? Think of all the law and order we would now have! We wouldn’t have to concern ourselves with such unnecessary things as elections, free speech, freedom of religion, Jews, Slavs, etc.

    Comment by Bryant — April 22, 2011 @ 7:35 pm

  9. Terror? When the terrorists crashed airliners into the Trade Towers that was terror. When the USAF and RAF bombed the heavy population centers to purposely kill (murder) civilians that was terror. Because what most of you don’t know is that the Allies intelligence prepared reports of the German city construction and found that many of the towns had building in the center of the towns, most of which was constructed from wood. They knew this, and knew that this would create huge and uncontrollable fires in which many would die. They did a real nice job of it to the point that those in the RAF were not even decorated for their “accomplishments” to this day. Why? Because the British govt. wanted to wash its hands of what they knew to be wholesale slaughter of people.

    Another fact: The Luftwaffe did not begin intensive bombing of British population centers. The crew of one German bomber lost its way, and jetisoned its bombs, but hit the outskirts of London. The RAF promptly and purposefully bombed Berlin thereafter.

    So if you’re going to point out the evil that the enemy perpetrated better look in the mirror. You were no better. In fact you were worse.

    Now here’s another fact

    Comment by Willi Krause — March 6, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

  10. Refugee from Danzig, near Polish Post. Learned it was bombed by the Russians. I had relatives and friends in the SS. They were the most polite and well trained soldiers.We were Germans. Poland always wanted Danzig, killed many Germans before WW2 started. Danzig was a Free City, joined to Germany, given heartlessly to Poland after the War: We Danzigers exist no more, ripped out are our roots. We are worse of than the Indians or Jews.
    I am now 89 years old, was never a Nazi. Many lies are being reported about the past.

    Comment by Edeltraut L. Scheffler-Plath — February 9, 2011 @ 12:32 pm

    • Yes there are many lies. Another lie is how the people of Silesia were treated by the Poles after World War II. Like you, my father’s homeland was given away by the Allies to the Poles. Many Silesians died defending cities like Breslau. Poles and Russians murdered countless German civilians. But those who gave the land away to the Poles are reaping what they sew. The Americans stole the land that makes up Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and California because they believed it was their destiny. Now they have to learn to speak Spanish because the Mexicans are overrunning them. It all comes around.

      Comment by Willi Krause — March 6, 2011 @ 2:53 pm

  11. Yeah, because purging your entire officer’s corps is a sure sign that you’re gearing up for an aggressive war with your neighbor.

    Comment by Samuel — October 7, 2010 @ 4:09 pm

  12. read youre article and think certian aspects are miss leading the ss were brilliant soldiers no doubt but you mention brits serving in the ss but mention no numbers thats because it was never more than a hand full and when looking at the numbers serving in the ss around a million does not credit a mention also to mention ss gaurds treating prisoners well when there job is to either work the prisoners to death or gas them .they were people taken from there home because of there race and forced into camps the nazi s started ww2 so lets not forget that so to try to make them out has victims is a strong stance to take the russia had never threatened western europe till attacked .

    Comment by dan — August 16, 2010 @ 10:48 am

    • A book entitled “Hell on the Eastern Front” by Christopher Ailsby says this about the British SS: “The Britishe Freikorps [...] was the smallest unit of foreign volunteers.” The book says that there were 58 British volunteers and that two of them were killed in the bombing of Dresden. The author wrote that the British SS soldiers were sent to Berlin in February 1945 and assigned to the Nordland division.

      The British soldiers were withdrawn from the front lines, but they continued to serve as SS men. The British SS soldiers were sent toward the American lines, where they were captured and promptly returned to Britain.

      The SS whose “job is to either work the prisoners to death or gas them” were not in the Waffen-SS.

      Pat Buchanan makes a good case for the British starting World War II in his book “Churchill, Hitler, and The Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World” (May 27, 2008)

      Russia was attacked BECAUSE they were a threat to Western Europe. The British refused to surrender BECAUSE they knew that the Russians planned to attack Germany. Germany made a pre-emptive strike against Poland which had troops at the border and they made another pre-emptive strike against Russia which had troops at the border.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 16, 2010 @ 11:27 am

  13. “The Germans were prosecuted under international laws, including new laws which were made after the alleged crimes were committed, which applied only to the Germans. These ex post facto laws have now become international law because the Germans were convicted under these new laws.

    The Allies, including the Soviets, were not held accountable for their violations of the 1929 Geneva Convention. No Allies were prosecuted, no matter what war crimes they committed.”

    What can I say, the victors write the history books and the indictments. It’s a bitch to lose a war of aggression during which tens of millions of people died.

    The Waffen-SS dress uniform was black, but they didn’t wear dress uniforms in battle. The SS was a volunteer army which included divisions from many allied countries. Are you calling the French SS division a terror organization?

    Comment by Arcadia — July 20, 2010 @ 6:04 pm

    • “The Waffen-SS dress uniform was black, but they didn’t wear dress uniforms in battle.”

      So they dressed that way to opera?

      “Are you calling the French SS division a terror organization?”

      Of course – the Germans did not have a monopoly on terrror.

      Comment by Arcadia — July 20, 2010 @ 6:05 pm

  14. Exactly which “lies” do you object to? Calling someone a liar is a serious charge. Do you find something on my journal that is factually incorrect? I’d be glad to counter it.

    Austrian Chancellor Dollfuss was indeed murdered by Nazis (source: BBC).

    Comment by paolosilv — June 13, 2010 @ 1:20 am

    • Chancellor Dollfuss made himself a dictator in Austria. He outlawed all political parties including the Nazi party in Austria. He was assassinated by members of the former Nazi party who ended the dictatorship of Dollfuss. “Murder” is not the proper term for the assassination of a dictator, but I’m not surprised that the BBC called it “murder.”

      Comment by furtherglory — June 13, 2010 @ 11:07 am

  15. Hitler destroyed other parties; including destroying their leaders. He overthrew the Constitutionally mandated Republic. He issued emergency rule, and may have had his men burn down the Reichstag. He sent people to camps without trial by jury. He rejected international law, and occupied Austria and murdered its leaders.

    Your alternate view of history isn’t persuasive.

    Comment by paolosilv — May 29, 2010 @ 11:33 pm

    • I beg your pardon; it is you who has an “alternate view of history.” I suggest that you visit a used-book store and find some old history books, written before your alternative history became the accepted history that is taught in American schools today.

      The Nazi party was destroyed by the Allies, including their leaders. After Hitler came to power, the democratically elected Congress of Germany legislated other parties out of existence; they did not destroy them the way the Nazis were destroyed.

      The Weimar Republic came into existence, not by democratic vote, but by overthrowing the imperial government of Germany. The Constitution of the Weimar Republic was written by a small minority that was dominated by German Jews. It was the Weimar Republic that wrote an emergency clause in the Constitution, not Hitler. Under the Emergency clause, civil rights could be suspended in case of an emergency. America did not have an emergency clause and our internment camps for Japanese and German Americans was a violation of the 4th amendment of our Constitution. The German camps were legal under German law, as written by the leaders of the Weimar Republic.

      There was no “international law” before the Nuremberg IMT. The decisions of the IMT CREATED international law. The Germans were prosecuted at Nuremberg under new laws that were written by the Allies after the alleged war crimes were committed.

      Austria was not “occupied” by the Germans. What actually happened was that Hitler violated the terms of the Versailles Treaty which specified that Germany and Austria could not unite into one country. This clause of the Versailles Treaty was a violation of Wilson’s 14 points. The Austrian people wanted to unite with Germany but Austria was also forced to sign a treaty with the Allies which denied the Austrians the right to join together with Germany. The leaders of Austria were arrested and imprisoned by the Nazis, but not murdered. After the war, the former leader of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg, was kept in prison by the American military until 1947 when he was allowed to come to America; he became a history professor at Washington University in St. Louis. Nazi leaders in Austria had been murdered by Schuschnigg’s men and that was why Hitler marched into Austria.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 30, 2010 @ 8:56 am

      • As I said above, Paul is a “Holocaust promoter” and Hitler Hater who cares nothing about the truth of what he says. He can’t be that dumb.

        He replied that though he may be “off the mark” that’s no reason to insult him. YES, IT IS. A person who spreads lies doesn’t deserve any consideration, only exposure.

        Comment by Sceptic — May 30, 2010 @ 4:47 pm

      • Having just met Rifleman Denis Avey and currently reading his book you people should listen to what the man who broke into Auchwitz said really happened there. Nice SS ? Like hell!

        Comment by Sharpie — September 13, 2012 @ 2:40 am

    • That’s because you’re brainwashed.

      Comment by Willi Krause — March 6, 2011 @ 2:33 pm

  16. “Traitor”? That’s a strong claim, especially pertaining to those who tried to overthrow Hitler. Most people would consider the men like Stauffenberg to be heroes.

    As for the rightness or wrongness of shooting Waffen SS who were trying to surrender the camp, can civilians or people who certainly weren’t there, judge them?

    The liberators of Dachau should be honored, regardless.
    yours Paul

    Comment by paolosilv — May 28, 2010 @ 11:21 pm

    • I have said many times that the heroes of Germany are the traitors like Stauffenberg. Hitler was appointed the Chancellor of Germany because he was the leader of the political party that got the most votes. Germany did not have a two party political system, so it was hard for one party to get a majority of the votes. Nevertheless, the Nazi party got the most votes so they were the party in power after a democratic vote. The people who wanted to overthrow Hitler were a very small minority and they were traitors to their country.

      Dachau was not “liberated” in the sense that there was a battle and the Americans defeated soldiers who were trying to prevent them from taking over the camp. That’s not what happened. The prisoners were brought from the sub-camps to the main camp, so that they could be turned over to the Americans. Then the regular staff left and Waffen-SS soldiers came in to keep order while the camp was turned over to the Americans. Unfortunately, the Americans saw dead prisoners on a train and at least one soldier, Private John Lee, knew that these prisoners had been killed by American planes that had strafed the train. The Americans went “beserk,” the word used by Dan Dougherty, a 45th division soldier who witnessed the massacre. Dougherty told about seeing American soldiers cutting the fingers off dead Waffen-SS soldiers in order to steal their SS rings as souvenirs.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 28, 2010 @ 11:47 pm

      • Typical Americans. Lying, stealing, raping women, and murder. Then covering it all up. If you look at a recent study conducted by NON-GERMANS you will see that the incidences of soldiers raping innocent civilian women and some instances as with the Russians, girls placed the Russians first followed by the Americans and British. Where were the German soldiers in this category? Dead last. Even the Canadians were worse than them. Don’t believe me? Just google it yourself.

        No German soldier ever raped a girl or a nun or an old or crippled woman. If a German soldier was caught raping a woman they were punished for it. Some were shot right then and there.

        The Russians raped girls and women from ages 8 to 80, including nuns. Don’t believe me? Google it.

        After the war 30% of American soldiers said they saw their fellow soldiers shoot prisoners. The other 70% probably support it or aren’t saying.

        Comment by Willi Krause — March 6, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

  17. 252 Continued.

    Correspondence between SS central construction office and German Equipment Company about construction materials for general quarters in the house of the Waffen-SS, such as lighting fixtures, windows, furniture, etc. (January-February 1943). Map shows location of House and floor plans.

    253 Technical calculations on building the commanders’ quarters and prisoners’ quarters. 1941 – 1944. 216 pp.

    More about getting House of Waffen-SS ready, with detailed breakdown of materials required and their cost; floor plans with references to where materials are to be used. Cost estimates for expanding six prisoner quarters, with map showing location of barracks involved and architectural drawings of expanded quarters. Construction changes in prisoners hospital. January 1943: memo about Entwesungs facility in main camp, Block I, construction project 206: “It is not possible to provide a hot air oven for this project since that item will in a short time have to be installed in the large Entwesungsbuilding in the camp.” More memos and correspondence about expansion of various prisoner quarters.

    [Heading: The Komandatura, Guard Towers, etc.]

    Follow-up on damaged crematorium chimney notes that it was built in 1940 and suffered damage as result of “continuous use (day and night).” Memos on expanding dental clinic; providing concert grands

    Reel 37 continued

    Reel 37 continued

    for staff soirees; setting up of a women’s branch camp for Ravensbrück in Auschwitz (April 1942). Memos about building of heating plant for laundry with Entlausung facility and prisoner bath.

    (Endlosung means Final solution).

    275, June 1942 memo mentions that camp commander had made an oral request for setting up four horsestable barracks for the “Sonderbehandlung of Jews” to accommodate their personal belongings. Lengthy memos and correspondence about work to be done in agricultural camp; expansion of I.G. Farben plant. June 1942 memo mentions that Himmler intends to enlarge POW camp from 125,000 to 150,000 POWs, hence the need for additional construction.

    Report by technical specialists from the construction police that damage to crematorium chimney due to excessive use must be repaired immediately because “otherwise this could lead to unimaginable consequences.” (
    254 Correspondence with the SS administrative Directorate and the “Friedrich Boos” and other firms regarding the construction of administrative premises for the komandatura of the KL (with drawings). 1940 – 1943. 67 pp.

    http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=64385

    Request to build a women’s camp in Budy. Minutes of discussions during Waffen-SS General Pohl visit (June 1944) concerning construction details. More details about Budy women’s camp, with cost estimates and architectural drawings of a prisoner barrack; schematic drawings of SS quarters in Budy.

    October 1940 memo, about agreement between Auschwitz camp commander and SS Brigade Leader Frank concerning various SS staff buildings. Notes about financing of Auschwitz projects; breakdown of costs for construction and improvement materials includes a note which points out that general facilities building in “protective custody camp” is much too small according to plans. Expansion is urgently necessary; plans now provide for 6,000 instead of 30,000 prisoners. List of construction projects under way in October 1940. From SS New Construction Office to SS Berlin, Main Office for Budget and Construction: lists urgent Auschwitz projects for 1941.
    Map of location of SS troop barracks, with architectural drawings and floor plans. 5 May 1943, memo reports completion of crematorium (construction project 30b) in POW camp.

    Reel 36 continued

    268.
    Memo of 8 November 1941, announcing renaming of Auschwitz new construction office into “Central Construction Office of the Waffen-SS and Police, Auschwitz.” Mentions that this office has to supervise an area of 15 square kilometers, with innumerable projects, including the setting up of a POW camp for 125,000 prisoners.

    Comment by paolosilv — May 27, 2010 @ 11:17 pm

    • I don’t know what you are trying to say, unless you are pointing out that there were Waffen-SS men at the concentration camps. All of the major camps had SS barracks right next to them where Waffen-SS soldiers were stationed. This was probably done so that in case there was an insurrection in the camp, the soldiers would be right there to stop it before the prisoners could kill all their guards and escape into nearby towns and kill civilians. This does not mean that Waffen-SS soldiers were prison guards at the camps.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 28, 2010 @ 7:26 am

  18. The Pope did claim that he was drafted into the Hitler Youth. He never said that he ‘volunteered’.

    My comments may be off the mark, but that’s no result to insult anyone.

    Comment by Paulo — May 27, 2010 @ 10:47 pm

    • Pope Benedict was forced to join the Hitler Youth when he was 14 years old because in 1941, the Hitler Youth became compulsory for boys of 14. The Hitler Youth was compulsory for boys between 15 and 18 in 1936. Before that, for 10 years, boys were not required to join. Pope Benedict claims that he never went to the meetings of the Hitler Youth. At 15, the Pope was required to work in anti-aircraft service as a Luftwaffe helper. At 17, he was drafted into the German Army, but he deserted before the war was over.

      So Pope Benedict was a traitor to his country, like his father, but not enough of a traitor to satisfy some people.

      A few years ago, I had the opportunity to meet a former SS soldier who moved to America after the war. He was very proud of the fact that he had joined the Deutsches Jungvolk at the age of 7. The Jungvolk was for boys, aged 10 to 14. He then joined the SS at the age of 16, not waiting until he was 17 and would have been drafted into the Army. He was not a traitor to his country, and as an SS man who served his country honorably, he is hated and reviled. If he had been sent to Dachau to surrender the camp, he would have been one of the SS men who were killed because they “so richly deserved to die,” as Col. Howard Buechner said.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 28, 2010 @ 7:19 am

  19. Well it does raise some interesting issues. At the end of the war, the Nazis did draft all these young people and old men into the fight, and doubtless some of them were not so bad (remember Gunther Grass’s revelations that he’d been drafted into the SS ; and our current Pope). However, the verdict on the organization as a whole didn’t make for fine distinctions concerning teenage boys. The hatred felt by many due to the war demanded that Germany and to a lesser extent Austria be made guilty for the undeniable crimes that occurred. And since the entire SS was under Himmler’s right-hand, then the finer points of history were ignored.

    Comment by paul — May 26, 2010 @ 9:24 pm

    • Germans were “drafted” into the Wehrmacht, the regular German Army. The SS was a volunteer army. The old men and young boys were drafted into the Home Guard which fought toward the end of the war. Our current Pope was in the Hitler Youth, which was mandatory for all young boys, but he was not in the German Army. I haven’t read Gunther Grass’s books, but I understand that he lied about being a traitor to his country, and then revealed that he had lied.

      The Allies indicted the SS as a criminal organization and the Nazi party was also indicted as a criminal organization. The SS and the Nazis were convicted at the Nuremberg IMT, so anyone who was in the Nazi party or the SS was automatically a criminal, regardless of what he had actually done. The concentration camp system was designated by the Allies as a criminal enterprise, so anyone who had worked in a concentration camp in any capacity was automatically a criminal, even if they had done nothing wrong.

      After World War II was over, France passed a law which said that no Frenchman could be indicted for war crimes, no matter what they did. As far as I know, no American, Soviet or British citizens were put on trial as war criminals, regardless of what they had done. Only the Germans were guilty, no matter how honorably they had fought. The American liberators of Dachau violated the Geneva Convention of 1929, which protects POWs. In spite of this, the general public thinks that the SS men were the bad guys.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 26, 2010 @ 10:31 pm

      • “The Allies indicted the SS as a criminal organization and the Nazi party was also indicted as a criminal organization.”

        This is an extension of the racketeering laws, I think. Sort of like, if you join the mob, you know what’s up and, even if you technically do not do anything illegal, you are still answerable on conspiracy charges because you are helping an organization commit crimes.

        On a lighter note, if the SS weren’t evil – why did they dress the way they did. Talk about an outfit that screams “I’m the bad guy.”

        Oh … wait … they were a terror organization and their outfit was designed to inspire terror. I get it now.

        Nevermind. :)

        Comment by Arcadia — July 19, 2010 @ 10:26 pm

        • Welcome, Arcadia. I see that you were directed to this blog by Paul, who is no longer commenting.

          The racketeering laws were American laws which did not apply to the Germans. The Germans were prosecuted under international laws, including new laws which were made after the alleged crimes were committed, which applied only to the Germans. These ex post facto laws have now become international law because the Germans were convicted under these new laws.

          The Allies, including the Soviets, were not held accountable for their violations of the 1929 Geneva Convention. No Allies were prosecuted, no matter what war crimes they committed.

          The Waffen-SS dress uniform was black, but they didn’t wear dress uniforms in battle. The SS was a volunteer army which included divisions from many allied countries. Are you calling the French SS division a terror organization?

          Comment by furtherglory — July 20, 2010 @ 7:30 am

        • The worst liars on the planet speak English not German. There is nothing honorable about the Americans and English who always make themselves out to have honorable intentions. Just look at their way of life. All built on lying, stealing and murder. Just ask ther blacks and Indians and Chinese whom they murdered during their violent and crooked history.

          Comment by Willi Krause — March 6, 2011 @ 2:20 pm

    • As usual, the comment by paul/paulo/paolosilv, and what ever other name he chooses to write under, doesn’t make any sense and is pointless.

      He tries to pretend that he is “open-minded” or neutral, but always condemns the Nazis in the usual way in the end … and ignorantly, as you so competently point out to him.

      Paulo, you’re not fooling anybody. We’re not a bunch of dummies here, like on your holocauster websites.

      Comment by Sceptic — May 27, 2010 @ 7:14 pm

  20. I prefer to believe the mountains of evidence and thousands of eyewinesses as to the behavior of SS personnel. As to the holocaust denial, Please, get a life.

    Comment by tampalam — May 26, 2010 @ 3:20 am

    • Hi tampalam,

      can we assume, that you also believe in witches and witchcraft? There are also mountains of evidence, thousands of eyewitnesses and confessions. And that’s a fact, I’m not joking.

      Most people believe what they want to believe. You are no exception. It makes you feel better, because you are on the “good” side and you believe what the majority believes. Just like those “righteous” people a few hundred years ago who believed that witchcraft existed.

      Comment by Witch Hunter — May 26, 2010 @ 8:42 am

      • The mountains of evidence were sometimes misleading. For example, there was a huge pile of shoes at Bergen-Belsen. One might assume that these were the shoes of prisoners who had been gassed, but these were actually shoes that were brought to the camp so that the prisoners could cut them up and salvage the leather from worn out shoes to make new shoes for the German soldiers. There was also a pile of shoes found at Dachau, but it was the same story: these shoes were there to be cut up and reused. The eye-witnesses who testified for the prosecution at the American Military Tribunal were given free room and board and paid for their testimony. Many of them were shown to be lying by the defense lawyers, but they continued to testify in new proceedings.

        Comment by furtherglory — May 26, 2010 @ 9:10 am

    • When you are fed lies over and over again you will believe, and you apparently do. Thinking for yourself? No not you. It’s easier just to be spoon-fed. That way thinking is unnecessary, and you can be controlled much like the govt. of USA is trying to do now.

      Can’t see it? Must be blind, too.

      Comment by Willi Krause — March 6, 2011 @ 2:59 pm

  21. The monumental blindness and stupidity, unmatched barbarism and sadism of America and Britain nearly brought a new Dark Age upon a world dominated, not by them, but by the Soviet Union and communism, Although the Nazis and fascists lost the war—their heroic struggle with hardly any resources against overwhelming odds allowed western civilization to survive. After 1945, it was the atomic bomb, beyond everything else, which allowed the west to survive—but before that, it was ADOLF HITLER who saved us.

    Even if the holocaust story were true, which is NOT the case as this website proves, the war crimes and atrocities committed by the US and Britain were far worse. The US and Britain as a matter of thoughtfully crafted “strategy,” murdered huge masses of totally innocent women, children and babies by deliberately roasting them to death. If the Nazis had murdered people in gas chambers, that would have been humane by comparison. In fact, however, Nazi gassings never happened! The Nazis were the “Good Guys.” The anti-Naizs, especially the Americans, were the ”Bad Guys”—and they still are. Holocaust propaganda is the continuation of anti-Nazi lunacy driven by the most rabidly racist people on the planet.

    f p berg

    Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com

    “just another website that denies the holocaust hoax”

    Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 25, 2010 @ 10:11 am

    • You wrote “Even if the holocaust story were true, which is NOT the case as this website proves..”

      I assume that you mean YOUR web site, not my scrapbookpages.com web site, which is not a holocaust denial web site.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 25, 2010 @ 10:26 am


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