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May 25, 2011

Schindler’s List, the movie, is FICTION, FICTION, FICTION!!!

Filed under: Holocaust, movies — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 11:09 am

Steven Spielberg’s 1993 movie Schindler’s List looks like a documentary; it appears to be a true story that includes real Holocaust footage, but it is actually fiction, LOOSELY based on a true story.  The movie is based on a NOVEL entitled Schindler’s Ark, written by Thomas Keneally, an Australian author of several novels, who knew nothing about the Holocaust until he met a Holocaust survivor and began research for this book.

It has been several years since I purchased Keneally’s book in the FICTION section of a Barnes and Noble store, but as I recall, there was an introduction in which Keneally explained that he went to a luggage store in southern California in 1980 where he met the owner, a man named Poldek Pfefferberg, who was one of the Jews saved by Oscar Schindler.

When Pfefferberg found out that Keneally was a novelist, he told him the story of Oskar Schindler.  Then Pfefferberg went with Keneally to Poland where the two of them visited Kraków, where the Jewish Ghetto in the story was located; Pferrerberg showed Keneally some of the places associated with the Schindler story. In gratitude for all his help, Keneally dedicated his NOVEL entitled Schindler’s Ark to Pfefferberg.

In 1982, the book Schindler’s Ark won the Man Booker Prize for FICTION.    Why did Keneally classify his book as a NOVEL if it is a true story?  Because Keneally is a Catholic, who once aspired to be a priest; he learned in Catholic school not to include fictional stories in a book based on the truth and pass the stories off as the Gospel truth.

Keneally’s research for his book included finding old photographs which were used to create scenes in his book; Spielberg also used these old photos for scenes in his movie.

Jews shoveling snow on Holy Cross Street

The photograph above shows Jews being forced to shovel snow on Sw. Krzyza (Holy Cross Street) at the corner of Mikolajska street in the Stare Miasto (Old City) of Kraków. Stephen Spielberg recreated this scene in his movie Schindler’s List when he showed Jews shoveling snow on Poselska street.

The photo below was used for a reconstruction of the gate into the Podgorze Ghetto for a scene in Schindler’s List.

The gate into the Podgorze Ghetto, 1940

Scene from the movie Schindler’s List shows re-created gate

The photo below was used by Keneally to create a FICTIONAL scene in his NOVEL Schindler’s Ark, which was used by Spielberg in the movie.

Amon Goeth standing outside of his house

Amon Goeth in the movie, shooting prisoners

The photo below was the inspiration for another fictional scene in the movie Schindler’s List.

Goeth on his horse in the Plaszow camp

In the photo above, taken at the Plaszow camp, Commandant Amon Goeth is shown on his white horse. The groom for Goeth’s horse was 14-year-old Irwin Gotfried, who managed to survive the Holocaust. After the war, he emigrated to the San Francisco bay area where he lived in a community that included 2,000 other Holocaust survivors. In an article in the San Francisco Chronicle on May 16, 2005, staff writer Charles Burress wrote the following:

“That was me in the movie,” Gotfried said, referring to a scene from “Schindler’s List,” where the young groom is shot and killed by the commander. In real life, Gotfried was not shot and lived to become president of AGI Shower Door and Mirror Co. in Redwood City.

In the movie scene, where Gotfried is shot by Amon Goeth, Spielberg deviated from the real life story in order to make a point that is essential to the theme of the movie: Oskar Schindler was an exception. For the most part, the Nazis were depraved degenerates who were incapable of changing their ways. In a key scene in Schindler’s List, Oskar Schindler attempts to teach Goeth that he would have “real power” if he would choose to pardon prisoners for minor infractions instead of summarily executing them. Goeth tries this suggestion, and even practices his pardon demeanor in a mirror, but he cannot overcome his intrinsic evilness. He pardons his 14-year-old groom when his work performance does not meet his standards, but then shoots him in the back with his high-powered rifle.

Today, the movie Schindler’s List is shown to students in American schools.  The parents of the students are required to sign a permission slip because the movie includes some nudity.  The schools should also require a signature, acknowledging that the parents and the students have read and understood an admission from Spielberg that the movie is FICTION.

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21 Comments »

  1. In 1983 I went through & survived “the gas chamber” at Parris Island.
    They shaved our heads & sprayed a similar compound to zyklon B (an insecticide) on us.
    It was used for the same reason as the Germans used it; to kill lice which transmits typhus which took so many lives.
    The irony is that “the gas chambers” were used to save lives, not take them.

    Comment by Dave — November 15, 2013 @ 3:51 pm

  2. We’ve heard the term “holocaust survivor” so many times that it’s become an oxymoron.
    What kind of holocaust could it have been with so many survivors?
    The holohoax has to be the biggest lie of the 20th century.
    The Red Cross estimated after visiting many of the camps in 1945 that about 300,000 died from typhus & starvation, not the ridiculous 6 million figure thrown about by the real Nazi’s in Israel & Hollywood.
    The true holocaust that Jews like Spielberg & Polanksi will NEVER make movies about is the one that killed 20 million Russian Christians under Jewish Bolshevism.

    Comment by Dave — November 15, 2013 @ 3:47 pm

  3. It’s a fucking MOVIE, for Christ’s sake. Only idiots like Americans would believe that anything out of Jeweywood was fact.

    Comment by Big M — November 15, 2013 @ 11:30 am

  4. Thank you for your post. You have brought some well researched details that challenge the current version of the hollywood version of the Shoah holocaust which we can call Holocaustianity. Holocaustianity is the new Religion of today, where Hitler plays Satan, Deutschen play Romans as “Willing Executioners”, Auschwitz plays Calvary, Gas Chamber plays Cross & Israel plays the resurrected Messiah.

    The usual comments on this subject reflect more the BELIEVE of this new religion and less facts based on scientific methodology or law.

    For Example people use the word “Nazi” as if it is a term that Hitler used. Neither Hitler or his Party used the term, which is clear if you read “Mein Kampf” in the original Deutsch. They used National Socialists or NS for short form for “Nationalsozialismus”. The “Nazi” Meme was used, like the term HERETIC, WITCH, TERRORIST to de humanize & demonize the Deutschen Folk so that they could be slaughtered. People who cannot get this simple fact straight are either suffering form Holocaustianity or suspect of will full deception. In either case they are unreliable witnesses. Unfortunately your use of this word also makes your posts unreliable.

    Another important point that you give evidence to, in your post, is the unreliability of the witnesses. Remember in a court of law, THE BURDEN OF PROOF, is on the person making the accusation. It is not burden of the accused to proof their innocence but to proof that the accuser has not made their case. In other words it is not a question if the Shoah happened, but if the accuser has made the case, that the accused is guilty of the Shoah.

    Over the years the witnesses have continually changed their story over many of the fundamental accusations. Anyone of these accusations, in a court of law, a judge could instruct the jury to completely disregard the witness’s testimony. In other words it has been shown over & over again that the accuser has not made their case, which gives evidence to this being a religious issue not a legal or scientific issue.

    Comment by Hans — November 15, 2013 @ 11:07 am

    • You wrote: “Unfortunately your use of this word [Nazi] also makes your posts unreliable.”

      I am writing a BLOG, not a college textbook, or a history book.

      I am aware that the word Nazi was not used by the National Socialists. The word comes from the German pronunciation of the first two syllables of the word National. This word was made up by non-German journalists who needed a short word to use in headlines on stories about the National Socialists.

      My audience is mostly people who know absolutely nothing about anything, much less anything about National Socialists. I use the word “Nazi” because everyone is familiar with this word.

      My blog is not a “reliable” source of anything. If you want reliable, go to Wikipedia.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 15, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

  5. […] based on a novel entitled Schindler’s Ark.  If the fictional book had not been made into a fictional movie by Steven Spielberg, the name Amon Goeth would be unknown today.  Amon Goeth was a minor criminal, […]

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  6. Oskar Shindler was a traitor. A shell of a man. He should have been gassed with the filthy Jews.

    Comment by Nazi Pride — August 21, 2013 @ 7:04 pm

  7. well the jews and no other people were throw out of every european country throughout history . do you really think these countries were wrong and the jews innocent every single time?

    Comment by Philip — March 4, 2013 @ 6:08 pm

    • You wrote: “…no other people were throw[n] out of every [E]uropean country throughout history…”

      This quote is from Wikipedia:
      Begin Quote
      The later stages of World War II, and the period after the end of that war, saw the forced migration of millions of German nationals (Reichsdeutsche) regardless of ethnicity, and ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) regardless of which citizenship, from various European states and territories, mostly into the areas which would become post-war Germany and post-war Austria. These areas of expulsion included pre-war German provinces which were transferred to Poland and the Soviet Union after the war, as well as areas which Nazi Germany had annexed or occupied in pre-war Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, northern Yugoslavia and other states of Central and Eastern Europe.

      The movement of Germans involved a total of at least 12 million people, with some sources putting the figure at 14 million, and was the largest movement or transfer of any population in modern European history.
      End Quote

      You can read more at Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%931950%29

      Don’t feel bad about not knowing about the ethnic Germans who were expelled after World War II. I first learned about the expellees when a woman who had been expelled wrote a letter to the editor of a newspaper in response to a Jew who was complaining about how the Jews were treated in Germany. On my first trip to Dachau, I did NOT learn about the ethnic Germans who lived in the camp for 17 years after it was liberated. It was only later that I learned about the Germans who lived in the Dachau barracks after the war. No one cares about crimes committed against the Germans during and after World War II.

      The ethnic Germans were kicked out because of their ethnicity, not because they had done anything wrong.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2013 @ 7:34 am

      • JEWS HOWEVER WERE THROWN OUT OF ALMOST EVERY EUROPEN COUNTRY IN THE PAST! NICE NOT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHY??? I SUPPOSE YOU THINK THOSE COUNTRIES WERE WRONG EVERY TIME BUT IT’S OK FOR THEM TO USE THE ARABS AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS IN ISRAEL. JEWS CAN’T MOAN ABOUT PERSECUTION AND THEN ACT AS THE PERSECUTOR. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm HAS ANY OTHER GROUP HAD THIS HAPPEN TO THEM?? NO WAY! JEWS ARE THE WORLD’S PROBLEM

        Comment by Philip — March 5, 2013 @ 7:47 am

      • They were kicked out because of what the nazis did during the war. Don’t give me that shit.

        Comment by Nazi Pride — August 21, 2013 @ 7:06 pm

  8. ya the whole thing was made up…….. What a dope….. im sure it was worse them this movie……. get real!

    Comment by Bruce Michaud — February 25, 2013 @ 6:23 pm

    • They should’ve died. All of them.

      Comment by Nazi Pride — August 21, 2013 @ 7:07 pm

  9. [...] previously blogged about the movie Schindler’s List here and [...]

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  10. [...] The movie Schindler’s List should not be shown to school children because the movie is fictional.  I previous blogged about the fictional aspects of Schindler’s List here. [...]

    Pingback by Amon Goeth had two different maids named Helen and lived in three different houses at the Plaszow concentration camp « Scrapbookpages Blog — September 30, 2012 @ 6:08 pm

  11. lol, What a dolt you are. Much like Titanic was as fictional movie, the events surrounding it were in fact true. Like Schindler’s list, it could not be told from a holistic and honest perspective because the man who wrote it was not writing a genuine documentary. This is generally understood, except by idiots such as yourself. The importance of the book and film is to understand the grand scheme of what has happening at that time, and not the factuality of the individual accounts. Who the hell cares what actually happened to the stable boy. The message is in the entire story itself. Much like the bible shouldn’t be taken literally, so shouldn’t this. But instead be revered as a way of understanding.

    Comment by Mark — May 1, 2012 @ 8:10 pm

  12. They showed us this in school and nobody told me it was fiction, I assumed it was a true story. I was totally mindraped then.

    Comment by john — January 25, 2012 @ 3:40 pm

  13. UR SO AHHHH ITS NOT FICTION IS IT WAS AMON GOETH (UR HERO) WOULDNT EVEN EXIST

    Comment by Alyssa Smi — November 24, 2011 @ 10:22 am

  14. Gotfried’s claim made the Jewish Weekly as well.

    http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/29525/irwin-gotfried-dies-had-survived-death-camps-as-a-teenager/

    Comment by Black Rabbit — May 28, 2011 @ 10:44 am

  15. lol at Irwin Gotfried’s boast!

    Comment by Black Rabbit — May 28, 2011 @ 10:40 am

  16. People don’t want to hear (or see or read) the non-fiction stories. They either find it boring, can’t or wont believe it, and sometimes find man’s true actions (both then and now) repulsive.
    That’s why my novels are historical fiction. Yes they include pieces that are true, but they are, primarily, FICTION.
    Dave
    http://www.dmmcgowan.blogspot.com

    Comment by Dave McGowan — May 25, 2011 @ 7:07 pm


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