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March 31, 2014

What do British students learn “from the horrors of Auschwitz”?

Filed under: Holocaust — Tags: , , , , — furtherglory @ 1:43 pm

I have blogged several times in the past about the one-day student trips to Auschwitz, sponsored by the HET.  I highly disapprove of these propaganda trips.

Today I read about yet another student trip in a news article at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Learning-horrors-Auschwitz/story-20883729-detail/story.html

This quote is from the news article:

We walked the 1,000 steps from the entrance [into Auschwitz-Birkenau] to what’s left of the [Krema II and Krema III] gas chambers. Two huge underground buildings where thousands were led to believe they could take a shower. Edyta [the Jewish tour guide] explained that each chamber could hold 2,000 people, who were killed in just 15 minutes. Their bodies were then mass cremated or burned in a nearby forest and used as fertiliser around the camp.

What does “mass cremated” mean? Were there huge cremation ovens at Auschwitz where the bodies were “mass cremated”?  Before the Auschwitz camp was abandoned by the Germans, the cremation ovens were lifted out of the Birkenau crematoria and taken to Germany to be used in other camps.

A cremation oven, used at Dachau, to burn one body at a time

A cremation oven, used at Dachau, to burn one body at a time

The ruins of Krema V ovens with forest in background

The ruins of Krema V gas chamber with forest in background

Apparently, even with mass cremation, the Nazis had to resort to burning the bodies in “a nearby forest.”  What about the danger of starting a forest fire, which could have burned the whole countryside for miles around?

And using the ashes of the Jews for “fertiliser”?  There were farms, just outside the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, where fertilizer was used, but I doubt that Heinrich Himmler, who had a degree in Agriculture, would have used the ashes of Jews for fertilizer.

The news article continues with this quote:

Earlier in the day we were taken to a synagogue in the small town of Oswiecim, better known by its German name of Auschwitz. [...]

Rabbi Marcus showed students some Jewish prayer books and explained that once they became unusable they were ceremoniously buried in cemeteries along with religious scrolls. Hearing that helped me put it all into perspective; to a Jewish person, a book is worthy of a burial. To a Nazi, a Jewish person was not even worthy of that.

There were 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.  Did the Jews really expect the Nazis to bury each body in an individual grave?

The news article continues with this quote:

Throughout the day, educators had urged students to try to remember the individual people who lost their lives at Auschwitz, and the last part of the tour was dedicated to just that.

As Edyta [the tour guide] explained, the room [in the Sauna building]  where Jews were sent to register was where they were stripped of their identities. “When they left this room they stopped being a person, a human being. They became a number. They became a nothing.” But now that very room is used to remember the human beings behind the numbers.

Wedding and baby photos line the walls. Pictures of families, first days at school – I even spotted two teenage girls in what looked like an early selfie.

These smiling happy people were a far cry from the earlier uniformed photos lining the walls [in buildings in the main Auschwitz camp].

The quote above refers to the photos which have been put up in the Sauna building, where incoming Jews were brought to take a shower and have their heads shaved to get rid of any lice, which could have started a typhus epidemic.  Why did the Nazis save all those photos, which were brought to the camp, by the Jews?

Display of photos in  the Sauna building at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Display of photos in the Sauna building at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Sign over the room at Auschwitz where Jews were disinfected to  kill head lice

Sign over the room at Auschwitz where Jews were disinfected to kill head lice

Sign over the entrance to the shower room in the Sauna at Auschwitz

Sign over the entrance to the shower room in the Sauna at Auschwitz

A display table inside the Sauna building at Auschwitz-Birkenau

A display table inside the Sauna building at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Instead of telling the British students the truth, that the Germans tried to save lives by giving the Jews showers and shaving the hair off their heads, the students were told that the Sauna building was where the Jews were “stripped of their identities,” and where they “stopped being a human being.”

Did the guide explain that the Jews believe that Jews are the only human beings, and that the non-Jewish “goyim” are animals, not human beings?

The Jews “became a number” when they entered Auschwitz. What if the Germans had not given each Jew a unique number? How many Jews, who had the exact same name, were in Auschwitz?  Each prisoner was given a unique number which identified them and distinguished them from other prisoners with the same name.

Did the tour guide explain to the students that the Jews had the habit of killing children and leaving their bodies to be found? The Jews did not bury the bodies of non-Jewish children because they believed that these children were not human, and only human beings should be buried.

A blog post, written by another blogger, explains it. You can read this blog post at

http://damianpenny.wordpress.com/2006/07/04/a-dark-anniversary-in-poland/

This quote from the blog, cited above, tells about how Jews were killed in Poland, after World War II, because of a ritual murder:

On July 4, 1946, 42 Jews who had survived the Nazis were butchered by their own countrymen:

The pogrom followed a series of violent anti-Semitic incidents in the Kielce region and elsewhere in Poland after 1945, which claimed about 2,000 Jewish victims. The local violence was directed at former Jewish residents of Kielce who had survived the camps or hidden in the forests until the liberation of Poland from Nazi rule; it occurred at a time of intense anti-Semitic hatred, when rumors were rampant that masses of Jews would soon return to Poland from the USSR to reclaim their houses and belongings.
The more immediate cause was the ritual murder myth, which had been widely disseminated by the Catholic Church in between-the-wars Poland and was still believed by many lower-class Poles.
Rumors had begun to spread in June 1946 that Jews on Planty Avenue in Kielce were killing Polish children and drinking their blood or using it to make matzot. One Jewish eyewitness who survived the pogrom remembered: “At about nine o’clock, on 4 July, crowds started to surround the building. I heard voices from the crowd: ‘You Jews have killed 14 of our children! Mothers and fathers unite to kill all the Jews!’”

 

24 Comments »

  1. He was a sergeant with the quartermaster corps and was brought in to help clean up what the Nazis had run away from. The photos (prints) were taken by army photographers and distributed at no cost to the troops. The images correlate closely with what he observed personally. He had memories of the place not found in any Dachau photos I’ve seen.

    Comment by randy — April 3, 2014 @ 9:45 am

  2. “The Germans did not take Jews from place like Hungry and Romania, stuff them in cattle cars to which many died on the journey, all the way to poland so they could save them from a lice epidemic. If the Germans wanted to save Jewish people and their young families they could have done so by just letting them live in their own homes.”

    The idea was not to save Jews from typhus epidemics. The idea was to save the German people from the destructive influence of the Jewish people in the future by making the “German sphere of influence” free of Jews, using some of them in the process for the German war effort (forced labor in camps) in the the Jewish-induced Second World War. The Final Solution was a big evacuation operation, similar to what the Russians had previously done with their “Pale of Settlement” and consistent with the aims and methods of prominent Zionists as Herzl and Jabotinsky. Many of the Jews used for the German war effort were saved by sanitary delousing measures, but they were of course saved from typhus epidemics for Germany’s interests, not for their own sake. Nobody ever said such a thing. Don’t be ridiculous…

    “It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of [Jewish] property.”- Theodore Herzl

    “I owe my permission to submit the Zionist plan for the final solution of the Jewish Question.” – Theodore Herzl, letter to Tsar Nicolas II, November 22, 1899

    “The aim of our efforts is to organize a systematic massive Jewish evacuation from all the countries in which they live …” – Vladimir Jabotinsky, 1936

    Comment by hermie — April 1, 2014 @ 3:32 am

  3. Interesting how the HET the all powerful and well financed Jewish body in England works. In my local rag among the mostly trivial letters from local readers would appear from time to time a reader’s letter from far outside the area about how her family were all converted into soap at Belsen. Last week on opening the paper there was the two page spread on the local gullable teenagers and their paid trip to Auschwitz to see the chamber of horrors. ( With regard to the fuehrer it is Der in the nominative.)

    Comment by peter — April 1, 2014 @ 12:14 am

  4. Hollywood’s Holocaust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOOuRn2li8#t=32

    Comment by who dares wings — March 31, 2014 @ 8:17 pm

    • Thanks for the video. I would like to point out that the first photo of the “death train” shows a dead German SS soldier, who was taken to the train after he had surrendered, and was shot by Lt. Walsh of the US Army.

      Most of the other dead prisoners on the train were Jews who were killed by American bullets when the Americans strafed the train, as it was en route from Buchenwald to Dachau.

      The shower head that is shown in the Dachau gas chamber looks different from my photo of the last remaining shower head.

      I believe that the ceiling was lowered when the Americans constructed the “gas chamber” that is shown to tourists today.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 1, 2014 @ 8:34 am

  5. Jewish people, don’t hate Christians (although they certainly be distrusting; which history has shown good reason). Jewish people believe that non-Jews are bound by the Seven Laws of Noah (murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality and blashphomy, eating the flesh of a living animal and resolving disputes through courts…To this Christianity is covered except perhaps for the eating flesh of a live animal (although I don’t know any Christians who do this). Biblical texts and interpretations have changed with all the great religions, but the point here is that your view on Christianity (something the Nazi’s in truth had little regard to; although went along for political expediency) and Judaism is just wrong.

    Jewish people have save and improved the lives of gentiles with innovation. Men like Jonas Salk, Ernest Chain are responsible for in whole and part for some of the most important inventions the world has ever known (the latter was a German who was chased out by Das Fuhrer). If there is a world disaster in the world, you better believe the Jewish State is sending people to help. The word Goi by the way means nations. While I won’t deny that there has been negative use of the word (e.g. when a Jew marries a non Jew, or a negative connotation on customs of non-Jews – go figure?), the word itself comes from the Hebrew Goi for nations you can look that up.

    Now to respond to the more nutty stuff you provided:

    The Germans did not take Jews from place like Hungry and Romania, stuff them in cattle cars to which many died on the journey, all the way to poland so they could save them from a lice epidemic. If the Germans wanted to save Jewish people and their young families they could have done so by just letting them live in their own homes. That goes for the Jews in Poland, to which almost 3 million somehow disappeared. Lastly if you or any of your readers really believe Jews have a ritual that includes killing Christian Children and used their blood for Matzah…has to be a new low (and that’s pretty difficult considering the stuff you put out), as your blog links to. Let me just put this to bed…order any meat at any Kosher Deli, the one thing I can assure you of is that you won’t find blood in it…Simply put consuming blood isn’t Kosher. Matzah is made from unleavened bread, and according to my Christian Wife and Friends was the bread that Jesus ate before he died for the sins of man kind.

    So Happy Passover!

    P.S. If you are trying to put some blame on the Holocaust to Polish people, you won’t get an argument from me or most Jews, across Europe Anti-Semitism has taken hold, and likely a big reason the Nazis had such an easy time rounding up Jews as Polish partisans were happy to help with the job. That said, this job was organized by the Nazis not the Polish Government (at least not the government prior to German Occupation).

    Comment by Foodforthought — March 31, 2014 @ 2:24 pm

    • Where I wrote “Polish Partisans” I meant Polish Nazi loyalists.

      Comment by Foodforthought — March 31, 2014 @ 2:26 pm

    • Foodforthought
      I think you got a few things confused when it comes to Christians that eat raw meat from living animals. I was brought up in the North of Germany, where raw meat from pigs was minced, mixed with various spices, mainly onions, and spread onto black bread and consumed with gusto until this day , and is considered a delicacy. Besides that there are other pieces of pig meat that are consumed raw.
      I have never tasted it myself, but then I had a Jewish aunt that taught me as a youngster, certain things that I should never eat or touch, and I kept that promise.
      PS. Regarding your German Grammar, the Gender should read “dem Führer”, whose birthday is April 20th; perhaps you are able to remind Caroline Yeager, the yellow Rose of Texas , whose colours are now “schwarz, weiss , rot”, to light a candle with a swastika!

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — March 31, 2014 @ 4:10 pm

      • “I had a Jewish aunt ” Herbert please explain how one can have a jewish aunt without having a jewish father or mother. I told from the beginning here you were probably a half jew married to an Edith. It is not a problem for me if you are, but it explains a lot your position of a former wehrmacht soldier believing the holocaust.

        Comment by wolf911 — April 2, 2014 @ 1:04 am

        • Wolf 911
          There is a simple answer: A brother of my father, which is my uncle married a rather “Nordic” looking girl and on top of that very wealthy, but when it came to all Germans to prove their ancestry she had no “Taufschein” (Certificate of baptism) in other words she was a Jewess, but was never bothered or molested, however she did receive the yellow star (Jude). which she never wore in 1942. They decided after tests showed that it was advisable for them not to have children. So all the love as a youngster I received came from her and naturally she influenced me very much in my views which I have adhered to, to this day and has influenced me very much in my future views. Her fate is unknown to us.
          As to my wife Edith she is a non-practising Roman Catholic, and I met her strangely enough initially in a Jew’s household in Roehampton-London, but neither of us are Jews.

          Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — April 2, 2014 @ 5:02 am

    • Crapforthought wrote :-

      …….across Europe Anti-Semitism has taken hold………

      Oh yes, I wonder why? Are we all mad? All these different cultures and ways of life, but one thing in common, a strong dislike of Jews.

      I wonder why Foodie? Got any ideas?

      Comment by DB — April 1, 2014 @ 8:45 am

    • You wrote: “Lastly if you or any of your readers really believe Jews have a ritual that includes killing Christian Children and used their blood for Matzah…”

      Yes, I do believe this.

      At the Nuremberg IMT, one of the German war criminals, who was on trial, was Julius Streicher, who had published a list of Jewish ritual murders in his newspaper Der Sturmer.

      This quote tells the story: [from http://www.stormfront.org/truth_at_last/archives/julius.htm ]

      Begin quote:
      The May, 1934 issue of Der Sturmer was entered into evidence [at the Nuremberg IMT] as the “worst act of anti-Semitism” committed by Streicher. This entire issue was a feature of the centuries-old accusation that secret sects of extremist orthodox Jews would crucify a Christian child during Passover, using the blood in a ritual ceremony. This accusation is known among Jews as “Blood Libel.”

      Considering the number of weird and murderous cults afflicting the United States since World War II, Streicher’s charges have great credibility.

      Streicher thoroughly researched this subject, citing many sources with footnotes. His defense attorney asked him to reply to the prosection’s charge that he had no documentary proof that such crimes were once practiced by certain Jews. Streicher answered:

      “The sources were given in that issue. There was reference made to a book written in Greek by a former Rabbi who had been converted to Christianity. There was reference to a publication of a high clergyman of Milan. Not even did Jews raise objections to that book.

      Ritual murder is referred to in court files which are located in Rome. There are pictures in it which show that in 23 cases, the Church itself has dealt with the question. The Church (Catholic) has canonized 23 non-Jews killed by ritual murder.

      Pictures of sculptures, that is, of stone monuments were shown as illustrations. Everywhere (in Der Sturmer) the source was pointed out…But in this connection I should like to say, we never wanted to assert that all Jewry was ready now to commit ritual murders. But it is a fact that within Jewry there exists a sect which engaged in these murders. I have asked my council to submit to the Court a file from Pisek in Czechoslovakia, very recent proceedings. A court of appeal has confirmed a case of ritual murder. Thus, in conclusion I must say…”

      At this point Streicher’s testimony is cut off by Judge Jackson, who stated,

      “I object to this statement…He ought to be returned to his cell and any further statements that he wishes to make transmitted through his counsel to this court; he should be held in contempt of court.”
      End Quote

      Comment by furtherglory — April 1, 2014 @ 9:24 am

    • I looked up the word goyim and learned that it means people of other nations, that is, not people of the nation of Israel, who are Jews only.

      I also learned from this website [ http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/judaism.htm ] that the goyim are not human, according to the Jews.

      So I believe that it is correct to say that the Jews do not regard non-Jews as human beings. That is why the Jews “lie, steal and cheat” the goyim. Then they wonder why Jews are hated the world over.

      In my blog post, I was trying to point out that the tour guides at Auschwitz try to indoctrinate the British students into the superiority of the Jews. The Jews were affronted by the custom of giving them a unique identification number in the camps.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 1, 2014 @ 9:46 am

      • Right! Everyone loves a good tattoo.

        Comment by randy — April 1, 2014 @ 11:11 am

        • German soldiers had their blood type tattooed on their body. They could have had their blood type on a dog tag around their neck, but if their dog tag was somehow removed, their blood type would have been unknown if they were wounded in battle and needed a blood transfusion. So they loved having a “good tattoo.”

          The Jews, in the camps, had to show their tattoo when going through the chow line, before they could get food. Without tattoos, some of the Jews would have gone through the chow line 3 or 4 times, while some would have starved.

          Comment by furtherglory — April 1, 2014 @ 12:54 pm

          • “some would have starved.”
            Is that your form of humor?
            My dad helped feed, delouse, and try to keep alive prisoners at Dachau after their “liberation.” I have narrative and photographic proof that the Nazis were quite efficient in ensuring the prisoners didn’t get too much to eat.

            Comment by randy — April 2, 2014 @ 7:56 am

            • You misinterpreted my comment about some of the Jews starving if there had not been some way of making sure that the prisoners did not go through the chow line more than once. I have read many books, written by survivors, who described going through the line more than once in camps such as Mauthausen and Dachau.

              You wrote that your dad “helped feed, delouse and try to keep alive prisoners at Dachau after their liberation.”

              The main thing that the Americans did “to keep alive prisoners at Dachau” was to use DDT to kill the lice in the camp, and to give typhus vaccine to the prisoners who did not yet have typhus.

              The Dachau concentration camp was next door to an SS camp, where there was plenty of food stored. This food was for the prisoners, as well as the SS men. In addition, the Dachau camp had received food from the Red Cross because it was the only camp that the Red Cross trucks could reach at the end of the war, due to the fact that Germany had been bombed back to the stone age. Five Red Cross trucks had recently arrived in the Dachau camp, so the prisoners were not starving.

              A bomb had hit the Dachau camp and there was no electricity, so the food was being cooked over wood-burning stoves.

              I wrote extensively, on my website, about the Dachau camp and what happened after the camp was liberated. Start with this page, and follow the links at the bottom of the page:

              http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauLiberation/aftermath03.html

              Comment by furtherglory — April 2, 2014 @ 9:55 am

              • “…the prisoners were not starving.”
                My father’s photographs suggest otherwise, as do some of the photos on your blog. Do the dead become emaciated post-mortem?
                I’m not sure what you’re advocating or trying to say on the topic of starvation in concentration and death camps.
                Have you not seen enough evidence to convince you that Nazis didn’t feed their prisoners well? That prisoners died of starvation?
                Five Red Cross trucks brought enough food to feed 30,000-42,000 prisoners for about how long? Oh yes, but Dachau townsfolk dropped off some loaves of bread at the gate…
                What the hell are you thinking?

                Comment by randy — April 3, 2014 @ 12:05 am

                • Yes, there were prisoners who were emaciated at Dachau, but there were also other prisoners at Dachau who appeared to be in good health. I have photos on my website which show prisoners at Dachau who are sick, but appear to be starving. I also have photos of prisoners who do not look like they are starving. This page of my website shows some of the prisoners who were not starving: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauLiberation/aftermath04.html

                  Of the 30,000 prisoners in the camp, at the time of liberation, only 15,000 had been there for more than 2 weeks. The others had only recently arrived, after having been brought to the main camp from the sub-camps.

                  There were many prisoners at Dachau who were sick from typhus; they appeared to be starving. The prisoners who were not sick were not emaciated.

                  The townsfolk were forced to bring bread to the camp after it was liberated. The townspeople were starving because there was a war going on, but the Americans had no pity for them.

                  If the prisoners in the camps were starved, why are there so many survivors of the camps, who are still alive today?

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 3, 2014 @ 7:31 am

            • randy wrote:-

              “My dad helped feed, delouse, and try to keep alive prisoners at Dachau after their “liberation.” ”

              Oh yes of course, here we go again. One of the 9 billion US soldiers who helped with the Dachau camp liberation.

              Is that all the US did after entering Germany in 1945?

              Comment by DB — April 2, 2014 @ 10:40 am

              • You seem to suggest, DB, that either my father or I lied about his war experiences. We did not. Nor do the photos he gave me.
                I can’t speak for the other 8,999,999,999 you mention.

                Comment by randy — April 2, 2014 @ 2:12 pm


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