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April 25, 2010

Letter from American soldier describes Gardelegen massacre on April 13, 1945

Filed under: Germany, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 10:34 pm

I received an e-mail from a lady who sent me a pdf of a letter that her uncle, John Lobb, wrote to his Mom and Dad from Camp Washington in France, probably on July 13, 1945.  He included five pictures of the massacre in the town of Gardelegen, where concentration camp prisoners were burned in a barn by the Germans during World War II.  The photos have since been lost, but I have added photos taken by other soldiers which will illustrate what John Lobb saw on April 14th or 15th in 1945. 

This photo of the burned bodies in the Gardelegen barn was on the cover of Life magazine on May 7, 1945

(Scroll down for the photos which illustrate John Lobb’s experience at Gardelegen)

Here is the letter which I have reproduced verbatim, misspellings and all:

Camp Washington, France
Friday, 13, 1945

Dear Mom & Dad

Well nobody can say that I have’nt been trying to keep up on the mail situation lately.  I think this is the fourth letter that I have written in the past seven days.  I am going to send a few pictures that we took when we were in Gardalagen, some time ago.
They are all facts that cant be denied by some Jerry politician.
The pictures have numbers on them, so you will understand some of the things and people around them.  No: 1, is the pictt re of the barn that all of the people that were found inside still smouldering, when it was discovered. Picture No:2 is the same barn with all the bodies outside by this time, just look at the amount that were burnt at one time, in this place outside there was a machine gun set up for anyone that tried to escape. Picture No:3 is a closeup so you can see just how the people were burnt, not enough to make it a quick death, only enough so that they would suffer then smother from the smoke.
Picture No:4 shows the trench outside where many more bodies were found proving that this was’nt the first time that such things went on in that barn.  The civilians in this picture are digging up all of the bodies that were buried for weeks in a big ditch, they were made to dig them up, I never seen so many people at one time so damn sick.
Picture No:5 just about tells its own story, that is the final count of all the people that could be found. Now all of the bodies have a seperate grave, and each family in the town of Gardilagen, is assigned to take care of a grave for as long as that family or any of thair childrens family live on this earth.  I have never seen an American soldier so mad in all my time as the ones there were.
You can give these pictures to the Times Herald if they can use them just to say show some people what a nice innocent race the Jerr’s are.
Well Folks guess that I’ll close now heres hoping that I see you all soon.

All my love
Jack

Barn where Gardelegen massacre took place — April 1945

The photo above shows soldiers of F Company, 2nd Battalion, 405th Regiment, U.S. 102nd Infantry Division on April 15, 1945 as they inspect the barn on the Isenschnibbe estate, a few miles outside the town of Gardelegen, where the mass murder took place on April 13, 1945.

The 102nd Division soldiers had arrived in Gardelegen on the evening of April 14th and had accepted the surrender of the Luftwaffe air base. The German troops were most anxious to surrender to the Americans, rather than to the Russians who were only a few miles away on the other side of the Elbe river.

American soldiers took photos at the Gardelegen barn

Body of prisoner found inside the barn at Gardelegen

Prisoner who tried to escape by tunneling under the sliding door of the Gardelegen barn

The Gardelegen massacre was the cold-blooded murder of inmates that had been evacuated from the Dora-Mittelbau concentration camp and some of its sub-camps on April 3rd, 4th and 5th. Around 4,000 prisoners had been bound for the Bergen-Belsen, Sachsenhausen or Neuengamme concentration camps, but when the railroad tracks were bombed by American planes, they had been re-routed to Gardelegen, which was the site of a Cavalry Training School and a Parachutist Training School. The trains were forced to stop before reaching the town of Gardelegen and some of the escaped prisoners had terrorized the nearby villages, raping, looting and killing civilians.

Photo of all the bodies taken out of the barn  

German civilians from the town of Gardelegen were forced to view the bodies

German civilians preparing the victims for burial

On Friday, April 13th, approximately 1050 to 1100 of the concentration camp prisoners were herded inside a grain barn, piled knee-high with straw, which had been previously doused with gasoline. The barn was then deliberately set on fire by German SS and Luftwaffe soldiers and boys from the Hitler Jugend, according to the survivors. Prisoners who tried to escape from the fire were machine-gunned to death by the Germans guarding the barn, including teen-aged boys in the Hitler Jugend. A total of 1016 prisoners were burned to death or shot as they tried to escape from the unlocked barn. Around 100 of the prisoners survived, including several Russian Prisoners of War who greeted the American soldiers and led them to the scene of one of the most ignominious war crimes of World War II.

German civilians digging graves for the victims

German civilians were forced to exhume bodies from a mass grave

Gardelegen victims were buried in a military style cemetery

The Gardelegen massacre was ordered by Gerhard Thiele, the Nazi party district leader in the town of Gardelegen. You can read about him here.

Update 04/26/2010: The comments on this post indicate that there are doubts about this story. I have some doubt about it myself.  I personally believe that prisoners died in the barn, but I don’t believe that a fire was set deliberately by the Germans.  If the Germans had really wanted to burn the prisoners to death, wouldn’t they have selected a barn made of wood?  The barn, where the prisoners died, was made of concrete, including the floor, and had a tile roof; only the doors were made of wood and the doors didn’t burn.  There were allegedly three prisoners who tunneled under the southeast door of the barn — with a spoon!  How long did that take? Why weren’t they overcome with smoke inhalation long before they could complete their tunnel?

I don’t believe that the photo of the guy who tunneled face up under the door of the barn is genuine.  I believe that his body was placed there and then the sliding door was pulled across his body to make it look like he had tunneled under the door.

I believe that there were several fires in the barn, which the prisoners managed to put out, and that these fires were accidentially set by the prisoners when they were smoking.  I don’t believe that the straw in the barn was “knee-deep” or that it was soaked beforehand with gasoline.

The photo below shows Geza Bondi demonstrating to the Americans how he tunneled under the door of the barn.

Geza Bondi demonstrates how he tunneled underneath the barn door

I think that most of the prisoners were shot when they tried to escape from the barn, which had no locks on any of the four doors.  The photo below shows prisoners who were shot while trying to get out; notice that their clothing was not burned, and the straw was not burned.  Note the unburned clothing in other photos shown above.

Victims of the Gardelegen massacre

38 Comments

  1. My Dad told many times about what it was like for him. When he came upon the remains of this death camp he was horrified. Dad’s radio operator who was medically trained told him what to do. Dad radioed back to the troops behind him and gathered soups and soft foods. He told me how he held dying skeletons in his arms drizzling soup down their mouths. To Then Lt Col John Herold Wohner he shared with me that they lost not one of those dying ones.

    Comment by Tanya Louise Wohner — November 11, 2014 @ 5:16 am

    • Do You know if there are persons (soldiers) wich where in the Gardelegen Massacre and still lives? I am fromBelgium and the person who’s face You see on the last picture above ( victims of the Gardelegen Massacre) is my uncle Frans. He was 17 years old when he was taken prisoner by the German and died about one month for his 20 birthday. I think its impossible but maybe someone reminds him where this person, my uncle, is buried. At the moment he lay in one of the unknowed graves. It takes me till this year before my uncle is taken in the boock of deads from the Gardelegen Massacre.
      I will thank You if some one cane give more information. Maybe an emailadres from a Governement of the USA wich can give me maybe more information.
      Thank You.

      Comment by Jonghbloet Marc — November 11, 2014 @ 7:20 am

    • I have studied the Gardelegen massacre extensively. Gardelegen was a small town in Germany; it did not have a “death camp.” The prisoners at Gardelegen were killed because they had tried to escape. I wrote about it on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Gardelegen/Massacre.html

      This quote is from my website:
      Begin quote:
      The 102nd Division soldiers had arrived in Gardelegen on the evening of April 14th and had accepted the surrender of the Luftwaffe air base. The German troops were most anxious to surrender to the Americans, rather than to the Russians who were only a few miles away on the other side of the Elbe river.

      The Gardelegen massacre was the cold-blooded murder of inmates that had been evacuated from the Dora-Mittelbau concentration camp and some of its sub-camps on April 3rd, 4th and 5th. Around 4,000 prisoners had been bound for the Bergen-Belsen, Sachsenhausen or Neuengamme concentration camps, but when the railroad tracks were bombed by American planes, they had been re-routed to Gardelegen, which was the site of a Cavalry Training School and a Parachutist Training School. The trains were forced to stop before reaching the town of Gardelegen and some of the escaped prisoners had terrorized the nearby villages, raping, looting and killing civilians.

      On Friday, April 13th, approximately 1050 to 1100 of the concentration camp prisoners were herded inside a grain barn, piled knee-high with straw, which had been previously doused with gasoline. The barn was then deliberately set on fire by German SS and Luftwaffe soldiers and boys from the Hitler Jugend, according to the survivors. Prisoners who tried to escape from the fire were machine-gunned to death by the Germans guarding the barn, including teen-aged boys in the Hitler Jugend. A total of 1016 prisoners were burned to death or shot as they tried to escape from the unlocked barn. Around 100 of the prisoners survived, including several Russian Prisoners of War who greeted the American soldiers and led them to the scene of one of the most ignominious war crimes of World War II.
      End quote

      Comment by furtherglory — November 11, 2014 @ 7:49 am

    • I wrote about the survivors of the Gardelegen massacre on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Gardelegen/Massacre03.html

      Your Dad was mistaken about Gardelegen being a “death camp.” The dying prisoners were not dying because they were starving. They were dying from smoke inhalation or burns.

      I wrote about the reason for the Gardelegen massacre on this page of my websit: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Gardelegen/GerhardThiele.html

      Comment by furtherglory — November 11, 2014 @ 8:06 am

    • No one ever talks about the internment camps in America. No one cares that Japanese Americans were put into camps in America. I wrote about this in this blog post, which rarely gets any hits because no one cares about what America did in World Ware II. https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/kiyos-story-life-in-an-american-internment-camp/

      Comment by furtherglory — November 11, 2014 @ 8:34 am

  2. My grandfather was Jack Wakeling. Technical Corporal, HQ company, 2nd battalion, 405th regiment, 102nd Infantry Division. And he just so happens to be standing 2nd from the right in the photograph titled “Geza Bondy demonstrates how he tunneled underneath the barn door”. He has pictures. Lots of pictures. The ones that are listed here are the “authorized photographs” that were released to the press. Every man that was there has their own, and now that my grandfather is dead, it’s my job to bitchslap anyone who says it didn’t happen.

    And Friedrich Paul Berg… What’s your address sir? I’m on my way over.

    Don’t think for two seconds that I won’t fly to Germany to pimp slap the daylights out of you with the 1938, Luftwaffe stamped, 9mm Polish Radom that Geza gave my Grandfather. My grand dad and he kept touch after the war. Both of them survived.

    Now, here I am, doing what I promised. Tracking down those that don’t believe “it happened”, digging to all corners of the Internet, all corners of the library, all corners of the earth, letting everyone know the reason my grandfather couldn’t stand the smell of a BBQ grill right up until his death. Questions? I have answers. Proof? I have that too. Still don’t believe? Allow me to convince you.

    Comment by Tim Wakeling — October 29, 2013 @ 10:03 pm

    • You’re my hero for today! Let me know when you’re going to visit that loathsome hateful idiot. I’d like to join you, and maybe kick him in the teeth. I’m not a violent person, but holocaust deniers/revisionists infuriate me. I could never debate with them in person because I’d probably try and strangle them out of frustration.

      Comment by Melissa Quinn — November 23, 2013 @ 2:24 am

    • Today I saw this site. I believe that the person on the last foto with the writing; victims of the Gardelegen Massacre is my uncle who was taken prissoner when he was 17 years old at the end of december 1942. He ws in Estrwegen, Gross Strehlitz, Gross Rosen und Mittelbau-Ilfeld.

      Comment by Jonghbloet Marc — January 8, 2014 @ 7:58 am

    • Tim Wakeling, I will go with you and hold the mf down. You see, my uncle was one of those trapped inside. G-d Bless his soul. Except the difference is, I have the comfort in knowing that he is beside the almighty Lord, as is your uncle, while the SS Nazi’s along with this dude, .. well let’s just say, they will or have met another fate.

      Comment by 1aviva — February 11, 2014 @ 1:33 pm

      • I visited Gardelegen years ago and wrote about the massacre on my website scrapbookpages.com.

        This quote is from this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Gardelegen/GerhardThiele.html

        Begin quote:
        According to the official report of the Gardelegen war crime by the US Army investigation team, [Gerhard] Thiele had stressed over and over to the Volkssturm and the citizens of Gardelegen that he would do everything to prevent what had happened in the village of Kakerbeck, 16 kilometers north of Gardelegen, where escaped prisoners had looted homes and raped the women and children. It was this constant reminder of what had happened at Kakerbeck that convinced the perpetrators that they would be justified in murdering the prisoners who were death marched to Gardelegen when their transport train was forced to stop in the nearby village of Mieste because Allied bombs had destroyed the railroad tracks.

        The ill-fated transport train had arrived at Mieste on April 9th, loaded with concentration camp prisoners who had been evacuated from the Nordhausen-Dora camp; on April 11th, a second train had arrived at Letzlingen. On April 12, when Thiele received word that there was a mass escape at Letzlingen, he issued an order that the escaped prisoners were to be hunted down and killed before they had a chance to attack the citizens of Gardelegen. As a result of this order, several escaped prisoners were shot and killed in the town.
        End Quote

        I don’t think that the barn was deliberately set on fire. There were several prisoners who managed to escape by tunneling under the doors with a spoon, while the barn was allegedly on fire. Other prisoners, who were shot while attempting to escape, had unburned clothing.

        Comment by furtherglory — February 12, 2014 @ 7:58 am

        • And I don’t think you have a clear grasp of the picture here. Think about this for a second… Gerhard justifies the murder of 1016 people (skin and skeletons actually) by saying “If we allow the survival of these prisoners, these emaciated, skin and bones, so weak the actual reason we had to STOP in Gardelegen in the fist place is because they’re too weak to walk any further…. They’ll burn down the town and rape all the women and children. Therefore, for the protection of the Fatherland, let’s burn them alive.”

          Yeah. I buy it. (HA!)

          Your ridiculous irrational justification holds no water here. The barn WAS IN FACT intentionally set on fire. There happens to be more than one report of “the Germans put gasoline soaked straw everywhere”, and then the post-mortem evidence to prove that point factual. Eyewitness accounts before, during, and after the event line up exactly with photographic evidence, and post eyewitness accounts by THOUSANDS of people. For Christ’s sake, there was enough evidence of it that the US Army forced the town to exhume the bodies of the previously buried and burned to PROVE further existence of their horrific actions, and then FORCED the town to build a monument to their horrors. There are “THOUSANDS” of accounts of exactly what you’re saying here by the German people of Gardelegen. Their #1 response? “The SS told us these people were war criminals, and that if they didn’t destroy them they’re raid our town and eat the living flesh from our bones, cut the heads off our children, and piss on our mother’s and father’s graves… But these corpses… These people were starved… They were so weak, there was no need to burn them. Most would have simply died from exposure if they just left them on the side of the road.

          Geza Bondy weighed 85 lbs when my grandfather found him. He escaped, because he was one of the few who still possessed enough strength to WALK.

          Comment by Tim Wakeling — February 17, 2014 @ 7:21 am

          • Some of the prisoners on the picture look pretty fit to me. The fourth picture, yes the one with the straw in the hand, now if that isn’t staged.

            Comment by Andreas Meyer — May 31, 2014 @ 9:24 am

          • My father and 2 uncles survived the massacre. They told the family many stories about the barn and the Americans who saved them. Can you contact me so that I can try to find out exactly which soldier found them hiding in the field nearby. The info I have should match the diaries of those who were there.

            Comment by Igal Wimisner — January 10, 2015 @ 1:07 pm

            • I wrote the blog post, to which you are referring, in 2010. I have saved my e-mail messages back to March 2010, but I don’t have the e-mail sent by the woman who wrote about her relatives who survived. Scroll down in my blog post about Gardelegen and you will see a photo of a survivor, named Geza Bondi, who tunneled under one of the doors of the barn — with a spoon. This man was found in a “field nearby” by the American soldiers.

              Comment by furtherglory — January 11, 2015 @ 6:16 am

        • Indeed who were these dangerous prisoners who would run amok in the locality? Surely if they were malnourished typical jewish concentration camp prisoners they wouldn’t be what is described. What is obvious is that something rotten happened here but there is no proof whatsoever that it was carried out by the Germans. Sadly there was much propaganda being produced at this time by the allies. These dead people could be German soldiers and the method of death is far from certain. It seems to show phosphorous munitions being used. Who had these at that time? I don’t doubt what the US soldiers think they saw and were told to believe but it could have been staged and they could have been lied to by their COs.

          Comment by Clent — June 3, 2014 @ 4:41 am

    • I read Your comment today, 11/11/2014. My name is Marc JONGHBLOET from Belgium. Sorry for my not good English. I read that Your grandfather had lot of pictures from te Gardelegen Massacre.
      The person who’s face You see on the last picture (victims of the Gardelegen Massacre) is my uncle Frans JONGHBLOET. He was taken prisoner by the German when he was 17 and died in the Massacre. The family thought that he died in Dora by Nordhausen on 3 or 4 april 1945. In 1991, 2 months for my father died, I was with im in Dora and promist him to go back later with flowers, witch I did a few years later. Than there was a secretariat and I asked about my uncle. I got answer at my home that they don’t know my uncle there. Later I wrote to the ITS in Bad Arolson and became lists of the camps where my uncle was, with names of other prisoners in the camps. I could make contact with a Belgian prisoner witch remember my uncle very well. He told me to loock at the site Gardelegen Massacre and than I saw that picture. On the Site Gardelegen Massacre is it the 5e foto.
      We visit than Gardelegen in 2010. Than everything thakes a time and in decmeber 2013 I was contacted by the German Torsten HAARSEIM, who wrote a boock about the massacre and who do a lot for the cementry. I send him copy from the 2 pictures I have from my uncle. Than he did a lot in German to let take my uncle and the Frenchman Jean Louis Merand in the Totesbuch (a kint of boock (aluminium plates) with the names from people who died in the Massacre. At the moment there are still more than 700 unknowed bodys who lay there in an unknowed grave. My uncle is one of them because we don’t know in witch grave is buried.
      Torsten is now a friend and he hopes to be the leather of the cementry when next year its taken over from the city to the Governement. Than he would bild there a exposition with all he can find from the Massacre. Maybe You can mail some pictures or writings about it from Your grandfather to me (marc.jonghbloet@telenet.be) or him (maildres: torsten.haarseim@googlemail.com) witch he than can use. Maybe it can be a problem because I think he don’t understand English.
      You can make me specialy very happy with letters or pictures from Your grandfater so that I have a litlle more about my uncle Frans. Now I only have the 2 pictures and this one from the site. Information from the Massacre I only have from this site.
      When I saw the picture of my uncle on the site of Gardelegen Massacre I was wondered why they couldn’t identify him. He doesn’ t loock much burned and we have numbers from the camps where he was, specialy from the last Ilfeld, a part of the camp Mittelbau.
      I thank You very much If You can help me.

      Comment by Jonghbloet Marc — November 11, 2014 @ 8:01 am

  3. I will never ever forget how I felt when my Dad told me about what had happened. It still amazes me how Dad’s radio operator was a doctor who instructed him what he should do. Dad told me how he held those dying Jewish skeletons in his arms dribbling the broth down their mouths. Dad told me how he radioed back for more soft foods and broth and the soldiers behind him sent the foods requested… it was truly a miracle but to me what was the most powerful was that he lost not one! Col. John Herold Wohner, DSO, DSC, Legion of Valor and many more. He was truly an honorable man. He was my mentor and his own children and his grand-children’s mentor also!

    Comment by Tanya Louise Wohner — July 20, 2013 @ 1:37 pm

  4. Nazi Horrors coming out of the closet, and some current day Nazi’s don’t want us to know.
    Orthodox Russian and Protestant England and America stopped the inquisition.

    Comment by Sue — July 20, 2013 @ 1:30 pm

  5. My dear Mr. Friedrich Paul Berg, it doesn’t matter what the Allies did or didn’t do. Even if your dillusional view of Americans is true, it doesn’t make what the Germans did during WWII any less evil. If a bank robber can prove someone else stole his wallet, it doesn’t change the fact he’s guilty.

    Also, unburned straw doesn’t prove there was no fire. If there were bodies on top they would’ve shielded it from the flame, and the lack of oxygen would prevent it from burning right away. This has been proven by forensic science.

    That’s the nice thing about facts, it doesn’t matter if you believe them or not, facts are still true.

    Comment by M.A. Quinn — June 18, 2013 @ 12:38 am

  6. I was going through a photo album of my dads who was with the 29th division. I came across a couple of photos with notes on the back.
    “gardelegen Germany April 20-45
    These bodies were flooded in gas and oil, then set on fire.
    All that remained were charred bones and a sickening oder

    Comment by E Johnson — August 23, 2012 @ 10:53 am

    • Please, can you see if there are photos which can give a look at the person on the last picture of this site. I’m almost 100% sure that that person was my uncle who was taken prisoner when he was 17 years old in December 1942.

      If you find more photos, is it possible to scan them and send them to: marc.jonghbloet@telenet.be
      Thanks

      Comment by Jonghbloet Marc — February 2, 2014 @ 8:31 am

  7. My father was one of the soldiers who had to oversee the burial duty. It happened. It was real. He spoke very little about it, but you could see the horror in his eyes when he said, “They burned them alive.”

    Comment by Vet's daughter — July 11, 2010 @ 9:20 pm

  8. Personally I if I took such photos I wouldnt send them home to Mom and Pop.

    “Picture No:3 is a closeup so you can see just how the people were burnt”

    Gee, thanks son, just what we wanted!

    Its like the stories about Japanese veterans coming out of the jungle 45 years later, unaware that the war was over.

    Comment by little grey rabbit — April 26, 2010 @ 5:12 pm

  9. You will always be sent material from people claiming it is genuine to back wartime propaganda as the propaganda represents a covert power structure.

    I have no idea how much Gardelegen pictures are true and how much the scene was staged.

    I can say, however, that the floor of the barn is covered with straw while the bodies in the straw look burnt. That suggests either the use of phosphorous grenades by the SS or at least some elements of the footage is staged.

    If phosphorous grenades were used then your letter is not genuine

    Comment by little grey rabbit — April 26, 2010 @ 4:50 pm

  10. Idiots like “Furtherglory” should have been forced to dig up the bodies of victims of American terror bombing and strafing of civilians–and bury them.

    Friedrich Paul Berg
    Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — April 26, 2010 @ 10:34 am

    • I seriously just want to drive/fly/row-a-boat to your house and bitchslap some sense into you. But with a name like “Fredrich”, I can pretty much figure that you’re even willing to admit that YOU BASTARDS INVADED POLAND AND STARTED THE WHOLE DAMN THING! I really hate Nazi’s. They make great sprocket grease.

      Comment by Tim Wakeling — February 3, 2014 @ 9:08 am

      • I wrote about the Germans allegedly invading Poland on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/youtube-video-proves-that-hitler-did-not-start-wwii/

        I also wrote about the start of World War II on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/alfred-naujocks-and-the-start-of-world-war-ii/

        Comment by furtherglory — February 3, 2014 @ 10:32 am

      • Did your grandfather (who met Geza Bondi, the man who tunneled under the barn door while the Gardelegen barn was on fire) tell you why the Nazis did not continue fighting the war that they had started, after the Poles stopped fighting on the battlefield and then began fighting as illegal combatants? Why was there a “sitzkrieg” with no fighting going on for months? Why didn’t Germany continue fighting the war that they started?

        Comment by furtherglory — February 3, 2014 @ 11:20 am

        • Did I just hear you say “…why didn’t Germany continue fighting the war that they had started?” I’m doing my best to keep from laughing and yet vomiting at the same time… Who raised you Friedrich? Who schooled you? I can take three guesses, but I’d rather have you just come out and say it.

          I guess North Africa, the British air campaign, France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Albania, Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Greece, Latvia, Monaco, San Marino, Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Russia, and the Atlantic U-boat and capital ship campaign is a whole lot-a-stoppin’ according to you, huh? You sunk passenger liners. More than one. Several. You justified the attempted extermination of an entire race/religion via fire, gas, and bullets, and then have the audacity to imply you didn’t start it???? You imply that you sat down and didn’t fight? That it was POLAND’S FAULT?

          Right now, I seriously can’t think of another human being on the planet who deserves to see once again the extreme prejudice and devastating effectiveness that is a triangle armored division. Geza spent 4 days telling my Grandfather who you people REALLY were. I just never figured I’d ever meet one. He told my Gramps that nobody would remember, that nobody would believe it was true. When my gramps came home, few actually believed it was. It took YEARS for the general population of the world to wrap their heads around the idea that MILLIONS of people bought hook, line, and sinker, the ramblings of a mad man. That those same people, MILLIONS of them, collectively lost all conscience.

          Sprocket grease…. We should have made you all into sprocket grease….

          Comment by Tim Wakeling — February 4, 2014 @ 5:51 am

          • You are replying to me, the author of this blog, not to Friedrich. You are answering something that was written by me (furtherglory) not to something written by Friedrich.

            I was the one who wrote “…why didn’t Germany continue fighting…” After Poland stopped fighting, there was no more fighting by either side. This was called the Phony War by the Allies. You can read about the phony war on Wikipedia.

            This quote is from Wikipedia:

            “The Phoney War was a phase early in World War II that was marked by a lack of major military operations by the Western Allies (the United Kingdom and France) against the German Reich. The phase covered the months following Britain and France’s declaration of war on Germany (shortly after the invasion of Poland) in September 1939 and preceding the Battle of France in May 1940. War was declared by each side, but no Western power had committed to launching a significant land offensive, notwithstanding the terms of the Anglo-Polish and Franco-Polish military alliances, which obliged the United Kingdom and France to assist Poland.”

            I wrote about Gardelegen and Geza Bondi on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Gardelegen/Massacre03.html

            This quote is from my website:
            Begin quote:
            Another Hungarian, Aurel Szobel, and a Polish prisoner, whose name is unknown, escaped through the same hole under the barn door. According to their story, they had used a metal spoon to scrape away the thin layer of concrete, which covered the barn floor, and had then pried up the stones underneath with their bare hands. It took them an hour to dig an opening big enough to crawl under the door. During this time, the gasoline-soaked straw in the barn was burning, according to the stories of other survivors.

            The first man to escape through the opening under the door was the unnamed Polish prisoner who was shot by one of the guards after he was alerted by a guard dog. Bondi and Szobel waited awhile until the guard had gone to the other side of the building and then crawled under the door, escaping under cover of darkness across a wheat field. After crawling for two miles through the wheat field, they hid in a building near the airfield in Gardelegen until the Americans arrived. The next day, Bondi told his story to the American soldiers of the 102nd Division and posed for the publicity photo shown above. Note that he is wearing a worker’s cap, the symbol adopted by the Communist prisoners in the Nazi concentration camps.
            End quote

            Comment by furtherglory — February 4, 2014 @ 9:30 am

          • You can read more about the Gardelegen massacre on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/ErhartBrauny.html

            Comment by furtherglory — February 4, 2014 @ 11:58 am

      • I see I’ve found kindred spirits as outraged as myself. I’m an amateur Historian and collector of images. For more than 6 years I’ve trolled wannabe nazis and corrected their lies.
        I also discovered the bit about staring too long into an abyss being bad for you. I’ve become a man quite willing to inflict on revisionists about anything their stinking heroes inflicted on innocents. I’m not pleased by that but I would love to “touch” a few of them.

        This url, http://boards.4chan.org/pol/ leads to a containment section dominated by a Stormfront lackey. The site owner could not control multiple tripcodes & VPN use so he sacrificed a news section. It’s an outlet of sorts but unsatisfying at best.

        I was born the week Shitler killed himself. Like Tim I feel an obligation to pick up the flag and battle on. These animals loathe the Truth.

        Hyperwar (Google it) has very good battle report based Histories of the War.

        And Tim;

        “YOU BASTARDS INVADED POLAND AND STARTED THE WHOLE DAMN THING”

        I’ve spent the morning discovering Poles broke the Enigma machine code in “32” and “listened” to krauts till “39” when the Poles sent their data and two machines to Brit & French Intelligence.

        In many ways Turing & Dilly’s work was made possible by Polish expertise.

        I once asked a Belorussian exchange student if his country could ever forgive the Germans. “NEVER!” he replied. Just heard Merkel is whining about German kids overdosing on Holocaust guilt. Give it 1000 years Angela and maybe we’ll think about considering Germans as human.

        Comment by props — February 18, 2014 @ 3:47 pm

        • I believe on CRITICAL issue no one quite remembers about the Poles, the 32-39 listening posts, and the Enigma codebreaking, etc… is that there was a very interesting thing in place at the time: The Treaty of Versailles, specifically relating to the Posen region. Poland was doing nothing more than verifying, and discovering QUICKLY that Germany had absolutely no intention of following the reparation demands of the Treaty of Versailles, and that they had their sights set on retaking Danzig with the hopes of restoring their former naval power. By 1935, Germany had thrown the Treaty of Verailles in the trashcan and started rearming. By ’36 they were in the Rhineland DMZ. By ’38 they annexed Austria….

          And POLAND started this? This would be no different than trying to say Israel started the 7 days war. Was Israel actually annexed territory that was created out of thin air after WW2? Yes. And so was the crux of Poland after WW1.

          Poland had GOOD REASON to keep tight intelligence tabs on Germany, including and up to codebreaking, infiltration… Hell, Poland per the Treaty of Versailles had full right to German OCCUPATION due to unpaid reparations! They didn’t pay their reparations to ANYBODY as early as ’21, causing the Belgians and French to stack themselves up at the Rhineland DMZ to rattle some sabers themselves. And yes, the German slap down that was the Versailles Treaty was designed to turn Germany into a 3rd world country for the next 50 years. The Nazi’s capitalized on the resentment of the Treaty, disregarded it at any and every turn imaginable, and structured their economic recovery NOT of progress, but VENGEANCE. The soul of the German people hated the French, hated the Poles, hated the Americans, hated the Britts, hated the Belgians, and the first chance they got they wanted revenge for the savage treatment they were forced to endure under Versailles.

          Nothing Poland was doing from ’32 to ’39 was against anything in the treaty. Nothing. They were entitled to far more, and never received anything from Germany. Of course this put the Poles on high alert! “Hey, Germany hasn’t paid us a red cent yet, they’re churning tanks out like beer bottles, in ’32, they laid the keel for Graff Spee and launched her in ’34. In ’36 they laid the keel for Bismark…. And they’re NOT supposed to have any battleships. I can just imagine the conversations going on behind closed doors in the Polish Parliament: “Ok… So we have all this mess going on in the Free City of Danzig, Germany has 50,000 tanks and 250,000 infantry in the Rhineland, the broken codes tell us there’s another 50,000 and 250,000 infantry tanks headed our way, and we’ve got a pair of battleships within 1/2 a days sail of the only sea ports we have. This is cool. We’re doing just fine here. These aren’t the droid’s you’re looking for. Move along.”

          Comment by Tim Wakeling — February 19, 2014 @ 4:46 am

  11. What incredible hypocrisy we see displayed here by another criminally insane American. Even if the story about Gardelegen were true, which it is not, there is NO reason for any American to gloat with self-righteousness. Americans had turned entire cities into funeral pyres of totally innocent women and children and babies deliberately–and they had been doing it for years. Look at yourselves in the mirror, Americans. You are a criminally insane mob! FU, on you all!

    The real murderers for Gardelegen were the Americans also who had bombed the barracks with napalm! Such heroes! Hang, or better yet burn, the real war criminals–yourselves! 9/11 was too good for you!

    Friedrich Paul Berg
    Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — April 26, 2010 @ 9:21 am

    • I visited the town of Gardelegen in 2001 and then did a lot of research about the massacre. You can read the whole story about Gardelegen at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Gardelegen/index.html

      Comment by furtherglory — April 26, 2010 @ 9:43 am

    • Mr Berg,
      When you said that Gardelegen is not true, I hope you burn in hell. I’m sure that the last picture is my uncle Frans. He was 17 when he was taken by the Gestapo and was a “night und nebel haftling” which means that they may write nothing to family; they can have nothing sent by family and when they died, the family may not be informed of their death.
      And then you say that all this is not true. Shame on you.

      Comment by Jonghbloet Marc — February 2, 2014 @ 8:36 am


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