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August 23, 2010

The floor drains in the Dachau gas chamber…

A few years ago, I was accused of being a Holocaust denier because I wrote, in a private e-mail message, that I think that the floor drains in the Dachau gas chamber are real drains. My private e-mail was published on Paolosilv’s blog without my permission, but when I objected, the blog post, which quoted my e-mail, was removed.

According to the Holocaust experts, the drains in the gas chamber at Dachau cannot be real drains, that are connected to the sewer system, because that would mean that the Dachau gas chamber is actually a shower room.

Poison gas cannot be allowed to get into the sewer system because it would poison everyone in the vicinity; for this reason, the floor drains for the disinfection chambers at Dachau are outside the chambers and the poison pellets are poured into a wire basket so they will not get on the floor.

Visitors to Dachau today are not allowed to go into the basement to see if there are drain pipes connected to the drains in the gas chamber, so my opinion about the drains in the Dachau gas chamber, which are now closed up, is pure speculation.

The floor drains in the Dachau gas chamber have been closed up

The drain outside the four disinfection chambers which were used to delouse the clothing of the Dachau prisoners

Notice that the alleged fake drain in the Dachau gas chamber was manufactured by the same company that made the real drain that is outside the disinfection chambers.

Is there a document somewhere which proves that the Nazis ordered six fake drains from the manufacturer and specified that the drain holes should be closed up? Not that I know of. Maybe someone modified six real drains and closed the  holes so that the poison gas could not go down the drain into the sewer system and poison the whole camp.

The two drains in the morgue room have to be real because it was necessary to clean up the mess made by the dead bodies stacked inside the room; this means that there is a sewer pipe underneath the Baracke X building where the gas chamber is located.

Drain outside the four disinfection chambers at Dachau

Four of the six floor drains in the Dachau gas chamber

If the drains in the Dachau gas chamber are actually fake drains, designed to fool the unsuspecting victims, why use 6 drains?  That is a total waste of money and involves a lot of unnecessary work.  Only one fake drain would be needed to fool the victims into thinking that the gas chamber is a shower room.

Northeast corner of Dachau gas chamber

The photo above shows one of the small windows for pouring Zyklon-B pellets into the Dachau gas chamber.  On the ceiling are the empty holes where showerheads used to be and a square vent.  On the wall, near the ceiling, are light fixture boxes which the American film, shown at the Nuremberg IMT, says were used to vent gas from the chamber.

As seen today, the Dachau gas chamber has two ways to input the gas: through bins on the outside wall or through the shower heads.  There are two ways to vent the gas: through the vent in the ceiling or through the empty light fixture boxes.

Two of the floor drains are about four feet from the windows on the east wall where the Zyklon-B pellets “could be poured in” according to a sign in the undressing room at Dachau. The prisoners would have had plenty of time to sweep the pellets down the drain with their hands before the poison gas fumes were released, so the drains can’t be real, according to the Holocaust experts.

Have you ever seen the “Soup Nazi” episode on the Seinfeld TV show?  The owner of a small soup restaurant in New York is called the “Soup Nazi” because he insists that customers do everything the right way.  If the customers don’t do everything just right, the “Soup Nazi” says “No soup for you!”

That’s the way the real Nazis were; everything had to be done just right.  No wasting of time, money and materials, by putting in 6 fake drains when one would have been enough.  The Seinfeld show, which is about “nothing” had many jokes about the Holocaust including a spoof about the last scene in Schindler’s List which was way over the top.  Too bad that the Seinfeld show is now over; the argument about the floor drains at Dachau would have made a good episode.

I read a blog post written by a student who has studied the Holocaust since elementary school and finally got to see Dachau.  The student wrote this in the blog post:

The adjoining room was labeled the “shower room.” The prisoners were told they were going to get a shower, but once they were locked in the room, they were all gassed.

This student became very emotional when standing in the gas chamber, according to the blog post, but in all the times that I  have visited Dachau and have stood in the gas chamber, I did not become emotional.  There must be something wrong with me.  While I was standing in the gas chamber the last time that I visited Dachau, I was too busy looking around at the shower heads and noticing that they were not evenly spaced on the ceiling and that the one remaining shower head did not hang down from the ceiling.  (All of the shower heads have now been stolen as souvenirs.)

I know that the gas that was used at Dachau was not liquid, nor invisible vapor, but rather was in the form of Zyklon-B pellets that are about the size of peas; the pellets could not have been put through the shower heads.

The shower heads were put in the gas chamber in order to fool the victims into thinking that the gas chamber was a shower room, so why weren’t they spaced evenly?  The spacing of the shower heads looks suspicious to me.  I think that the uneven spacing is due to the vent being put in AFTER the shower heads were installed.

The following quote is from The Harrowing of Hell, a book written by Captain Marcus J. Smith, a US Army medical doctor with DP Team 115, who arrived at Dachau on April 30, 1945:

“They stood beneath innocent-looking shower heads, evenly spaced on the ceiling; from them the invisible lethal gas (carbon monoxide and hydrogen cyanide) flowed for ten to twenty minutes. I noticed a thick glass window on the rear of the chamber: I am told that through the window a supervisor witnessed the executions so that he could decontaminate when they were over.”

Contrary to the description above, written by a medical doctor with the US Army, who saw the gas chamber the day after the camp was liberated, the holes for the fake shower heads are currently not “evenly spaced.” There are three rows of ceiling holes in the gas chamber today.  On the north side of the ceiling, there are three holes on the left side, then two ceiling vents with one hole between them on the right side. In the middle row, there are 6 holes and in the row near the south wall, there are 5 holes, making a total of 15 randomly-spaced holes for the fake shower nozzles.

Were the shower heads changed sometime after this army doctor saw the gas chamber on April 30, 1945?  Was the whole ceiling lowered so that the water pipes were hidden?  Was the peephole used to see which water pipes to open because all three water pipes did not need to flow if there were only a few prisoners taking a shower under one row of shower heads?

A group of US Congressmen visited Dachau on May 1, 1945 and in their report, they described the gas chamber as having a 10-foot ceiling with pipes on the ceiling.  The two rooms on either side of the gas chamber both have 10-foot ceilings.  On May 3, 1945, when a film of the gas chamber was made, the ceiling was 7.6 feet high and there were no pipes visible.  Were there some changes made to the gas chamber between April 30, 1945 and May 3, 1945?  The film that was made on May 3, 1945 was shown at the Nuremberg IMT as proof that prisoners were gassed at Dachau.

The one remaining shower head in the Dachau gas chamber in 2003 was made of sheet metal and it looked like the head from a large garden sprinkler can. It was approximately five inches in diameter, and was set flush with the ceiling in a hole that was about 4 or 5 inches deep into the ceiling. By looking into the empty holes on the ceiling today, one can see that these fake shower heads in the gas chamber were not connected to any pipes. The one remaining shower head had been dented, as though someone had punched it with his fist.

A real shower room at Dachau with the shower heads hanging from water pipes

The photo above shows what a real shower room looked like at Dachau.  Notice the shower heads are evenly spaced and hanging down from the pipes.  This photo was taken in the administration building which has been converted into a Museum at Dachau.  The pipes and shower heads  have been removed.  Were the  real pipes and shower heads removed so that visitors will not think for themselves,  but will just let emotion overcome them when they stand in the gas chamber which is disguised as a shower room?


  1. I have also visited Dachau several times as I was stationed in Germany in the late 80’s. I Disagree with your findings. I am a History Grad and am especially interested in War as I served 18 yrs in the military. Your analysis of the Gas chamber are way off. The Germans at that period of history cared nothing of fooling the prisoners with fake shower heads. They were constantly developing new and less expensive ways to inhumanly kill their prisoners. This is explains your uneven shower heads as you call them ( Gas Dispursment system) and the shower drains if you take time and actually look you will see they are boxes not drains. The Germans at that period had guns and loved to enforce there belief of a pure Race they would not have tried to make it easier on prisoners that they believed to be a Disease.

    Comment by Mark — February 6, 2016 @ 3:46 am

    • You wrote: “the shower drains if you take time and actually look you will see they are boxes not drains.”

      I believe that the drains in the Dachau shower room are actual drains that have been closed up. You can see a photo of a closed-up drain on my website at

      I also have a photo of the stairs down into the basement at Dachau. The door into the basement is locked so that visitors cannot see that the floor drains had pipes that went into the basement. A gas chamber cannot have a floor drain because the Zyklon-B would get into the sewer system and poison the whole camp. There was an Army base right next to the Dachau camp. All the soldiers at the Army base would have been killed if Zyklon-B had gotten into the sewer system.

      Dachau was not a camp for Jews. Only in the last days of the war were Jews brought to Dachau after they had been marched out of other camps.

      Comment by furtherglory — February 6, 2016 @ 6:07 am

  2. Here are various counts of worldwide jewish numbers before the 2nd world war ,

    World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 — world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

    American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 — 15,600,000

    World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population — 15,319,359

    I’d say pretty good agreement of around 15.6 million Jews worldwide 1930-40 .

    What about after the War ?

    World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population — 15,690,000

    World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population — 15,713,638

    Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 — 15,300,000

    So how do we account for the 6 million Jews supposedly killed by the Nazi’s?

    Its not possible and also highly improbable that the Jewish numbers were made up to pre war levels in 3-4 short years after the war
    especially with the state of Europe after the War.
    And remember the Jews have a relatively low birthrate , even to this day.

    Comment by ddggrraahhaamm — January 4, 2016 @ 11:08 pm

    • So if they didn’t where is the increase from breeding. Also if you look after WW2 there was an increase of registered new Jews. Explain to all the Families who could not find there children, or parents, aunts and uncles after the war. You probably explain it by saying they were abducted.

      Comment by Mark — February 6, 2016 @ 3:54 am

  3. You’re forgetting that the initial purpose of “concentration camps” were isolation camps. More reprehensible version of the ones the United States had for the Japanese, post Pearl Harbor. When it became necessary to enact the “final solution” changes might have been made. As for further changes, keep in mind communist Russian troops also stormed all through there too.

    Comment by Shae — January 1, 2016 @ 10:19 pm

  4. The slaughter the Nazis did to the Jewish people and you are concerned with drains. Some people amaze me on how cold they are.

    Comment by Phil Napier — October 15, 2015 @ 11:04 am

    • You missed the whole point of my blog post. A gas chamber cannot have a floor drain, which would cause everyone in the vicinity to be poisoned by the gas. The Dachau gas chamber, as seen by tourists today has drains that are closed up. Why would anyone put 6 CLOSED UP drains in a gas chamber? The floor drains indicate that the Dachau gas chamber was a shower room, not a gas chamber.

      Comment by furtherglory — October 15, 2015 @ 12:05 pm

    • There are only so many things to focus on when you’re waiting for the hotpockets to cook in the microwave, down in moms basement.

      Comment by Luke — February 5, 2016 @ 2:12 pm

  5. A reasonable assumption: perhaps the drains (the actual pipes, not just the grating over the drain) could be sealed off during the time the gas was released. Once it had been vented, the drains could be opened to allow for washing down the space.

    Comment by dawn — June 16, 2014 @ 4:27 pm

    • Only one, or maybe two, drains would have been required to “wash down the space,” not six drains. The morgue room, adjacent to the gas chamber, had only two drains.

      How do you explain that the ceiling of the gas chamber was 7.6 feet high, but the two rooms on either side of the gas chamber had 10 ft. ceilings? The Congressmen, who saw the gas chamber, wrote in their report that the ceiling was 10 ft. high.

      If you look at the photo of the floor drain, you will see that it would have been difficult to open and close it. The drain was permanently sealed shut.

      In the last months before the Dachau camp was liberated, Jews were brought, from the sub-camps of Dachau and from one of the ghettos, to the Dachau camp. Before that, there were very few Jews in the camp because Dachau was mainly a camp for Communists, illegal combatants, criminals, homosexual men, Gypsies and Catholic priests. The Communists wore a red triangle and the criminals wore a green triangle. Dachau was mainly a camp for the “reds” and the “greens.” It was not a “death camp” for the Jews.

      I wrote another blog post about the Dachau gas chamber at

      Comment by furtherglory — June 17, 2014 @ 6:54 am

  6. […] gas chamber floor drain here.  I also blogged about the 6 floor drains in the Dachau gas chamber here.  According to Fred, a gas chamber absolutely cannot have even one floor drain, much less 6 […]

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  7. […] Wait a minute! Why was there a drain hole in a gas chamber?  Wouldn’t the gas have gone down the drain and poisoned everyone in the whole camp?  Of course, the six drain holes are now closed up, but if the Germans were going to close the drain holes, why put them there in the first place?  The drain holes indicate that the gas chamber was originally a shower room, which was modified to make it into a gas chamber.  I previously blogged about the floor drains in the gas chamber here. […]

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