Scrapbookpages Blog

October 1, 2010

Were concentration camp prisoners killed, near the end of WWII, in order to eliminate witnesses?

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:41 am

Shortly after I began blogging, back in February 2010, I learned from some of the comments on my posts, that many people believe that, in the last days of World War II, the Nazis increased the killing of prisoners in the concentration camps because they did not want to leave witnesses behind to testify about the atrocities in the camps.  It is a fact that the number of deaths increased dramatically in the last six months of the war.

At the Nuremberg IMT, Ernst Kaltenbrunner was accused of giving an order to kill all the prisoners before American soldiers arrived to liberate the remaining camps.  Kaltenbrunner was the Chief of RSHA (Reich Security Head Office) which was a very high position in the Nazi hierarchy. An order allegedly arrived at Dachau, just days before the camp was liberated, in which the killing of all the prisoners was commanded.

This morning I read the following quote about Dachau here:

Displays at the camp show those piles of bodies toward the end of the war as the Nazi world collapsed and it became more important to kill prisoners to eliminate witnesses.

A lot of new display signs have been put up at Dachau since my last visit.   The signs apparently tell tourists that prisoners were killed in the last days of the war “to eliminate witnesses.”

A display sign at Dachau identifies this room as the place where bodies were found on liberation day

What about the 2,226 prisoners who died in the month of May after Dachau was liberated?  Did the Nazis sneak into the camp and kill them to eliminate witnesses?

What about the 30,000 prisoners who were still alive at Dachau when the American liberators arrived?  Did the Nazis run out of time and they were not able to kill all the prisoners?

There is also a common belief that the prisoners were marched out of the camps, or put on trains and sent to another camp, so that they could be killed.  Even the VIP prisoners at Dachau were allegedly sent to the South Tyrol in order to be killed.

Russian POWs and Jewish prisoners were marched out of Dachau before the American liberators arrived

A recent comment on my blog by history professor Harold Marcuse included these quotes:

When some responsible German officials realized beyond doubt that the war was lost, they drew the “logical” conclusion and burned the marching prisoners alive, as happened at Ohrdruf, Gardelegen and numerous other places. For them apparently, dead evidence was better than alive evidence.

In any case the death marches in 1945 were a largely futile attempt to keep human evidence of and witnesses to atrocities from falling into Allied hands.

It seems that the belief, that prisoners were killed to keep them from testifying about Nazi “atrocities,” is now a part of the official history of the Holocaust, at least at the Dachau Memorial Site, and in college history classes in America.

I got into trouble with the Thought Police a couple of months ago when I wrote on my blog that prisoners were brought from the sub-camps to the main Dachau camp in order to consolidate the prisoners so that they could be liberated by the Americans.  The Holocaust True Believers say that the prisoners were brought to the main camp to be killed in accordance with the alleged order to kill all the prisoners to keep them from being witnesses.

The plan to kill all the prisoners was obviously not carried out, and there were an additional 15,000 prisoners at the main camp when the liberators arrived.  The tour guides at Dachau make a big point of telling visitors how crowded it was in the camp, but always neglect to mention that half of the prisoners who were in the camp on the day of liberation had only been there a few weeks and some had arrived on the day before.  Seven mothers with babies arrived at Dachau the day AFTER the camp was liberated, much too late to be killed under the alleged order to kill all the prisoners.


  1. I have read the link to Marcuse’s bio. My favorite part is: “participated briefly in 1918 German revolution which brought an end to WWI”. So, he was one of those traitors who has destroyed Germany and make her to pay reparations for the past 91 years? The last payment is scheduled for tomorrow.

    Comment by Gasan — October 2, 2010 @ 3:41 pm

  2. The film “Nazi Concentration Camps” was shown at Nuremberg and made by OSS agents, though the judges didn’t know it was made by OSS agents. Some of those places that “grandson” mentioned are in that film, like Gardelegen, but the presentation of what happened in the film is false.

    Herbert Marcuse with his report ““Presentation of the Enemy:” may very well have been involved with the disinformation that “grandson” now uses to support his view that the Nazis “burned people alive” at the end of the war to get rid of evidence.

    Comment by Budham — October 1, 2010 @ 8:54 pm

    • What about the film footage of the Dachau gas chamber that was shown at the Nuremberg IMT? That was included in the “Nazi Concentration Camps” film, as I recall. Whose idea was it to film the Dachau gas chamber?

      Comment by furtherglory — October 1, 2010 @ 9:53 pm

      • I don’t know. Maybe it was Herbert Marcuse’s idea. Then grandson writes a book on Dachau. LOL.

        Comment by Budham — October 2, 2010 @ 10:48 am

  3. Was Herbert Marcuse really in the OSS? That organization that had something to do with the holocaust myth as we know it. Then his son, as German History Professor finds fault with scrapbookpages, and meanwhile tries to regurgitate the “burned alive” myth.

    One problem: people can no longer point to Gardelegen as “the nazis destroying the evidence” when scrapbookpages offers the best source in the world on what really happened there.

    Comment by Budham — October 1, 2010 @ 12:31 pm

    • I almost deleted your comment because it is a bit controversial and I don’t want any flame wars to start. I had no idea that Herbert Marcuse was in the OSS, so I looked it up and found this on Wikipedia:

      “During World War II Marcuse first worked for the U.S. Office of War Information (OWI) on anti-Nazi propaganda projects. In 1943 he transferred to the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the precursor to the Central Intelligence Agency. His work for the OSS involved research on Nazi Germany and denazification. After the dissolution of the OSS in 1945, Marcuse was employed by the US Department of State as head of the Central European section, retiring after the death of his first wife in 1951.”

      I think you are referring to his grandson, who is a German history professor. Thanks for the compliment on my Gardelegen pages.

      Comment by furtherglory — October 1, 2010 @ 3:34 pm

      • I also found this, on a google search:

        December 1942: joined the Office of War Information as a senior analyst in the Bureau of Intelligence

        * report “Presentation of the Enemy:” proposed ways that the mass media of the Allied countries could present images of German fascism


        Comment by furtherglory — October 1, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

RSS feed for comments on this post.

Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.

%d bloggers like this: