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February 22, 2011

Joy Behar: “Do you consider yourself Anti-Semitic?” Helen Thomas: “Hell no! I’m a Semite.”

Filed under: Holocaust, TV shows — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 9:56 am

On a recent TV show, Joy Behar gave former White House correspondent Helen Thomas a chance to apologize for her Anit-Semitism and re-join the human race.  But Helen refused to admit that she is Anti-Semitic, claiming that she is a Semite herself.  What in the hell was she talking about?  It was quite clear that Joy Behar obviously didn’t understand what Helen meant when she said she was a Semite.

The word Semite refers to a language group, just as the word Aryan refers to a language group.  The word Semite does not mean Jewish, just as the word Aryan does not mean German.

As a native of Lebanon, Helen Thomas is a member of an ethnic group (Arab) that is in the Semite language group.  The Jewish descendants of Abraham were Semites who spoke Hebrew. As God’s Chosen people, God gave the Hebrews “The Promised Land,” which is now Israel. The Palestinians are also the descendants of Abraham and they have lived for thousands of years in Palestine; they refuse to leave what they consider their homeland.  Today’s Jews are 90% Eastern European Jews or Russian Jews or Ashkenazi Jews, or whatever you want to call them.  The original descendants of Abraham are called Sephardic Jews.

Helen Thomas does not consider the Jews in Israel to be Semites and she thinks they should not be in Palestine.  (Look at photos of Netanyahu and Helen Thomas side by side and you will understand what she is talking about.)

Helen Thomas made an insensitive remark when she was interviewed on camera last year by a rabbi.  She said that the Jews should “Get the hell out of Palestine.”  As she tried to explain to Joy Behar, Helen thinks that the Jews do not need a country of their own because they are not currently being persecuted.  Helen thinks that the Jews in Israel should go back to where they came from, which is “Germany, Poland, and America.”  To the Jews, this remark was an extreme insult because, after Germany tried to kill all the Jews, this is the last place that they would ever want to go.

The term Anti-Semite was first used back in the 1870s when the “Jewish Question” was being discussed.  The Germans called their genocidal plan to kill all the Jews  “The Final Solution to the Jewish Question.”  So what was the “Jewish Question?”  The Question was: Should the Jews live separately in their own state within a state, or should they assimilate in the country where they lived?  The “Anti-Semites” wanted the Jews to assimilate instead of living separately in a Ghetto or a “Jewish Quarter” which amounted to a state within a state with its own flag, its own language and its own laws.

The idea that the Jews should have their own country started back in 1896 when Theodor Herzl, a Jewish journalist in Vienna, started the Zionist movement by writing a book called “The Jewish State,” which advocated the unification of all the Jews in their own country, preferably in Palestine.  In 1897, the World Jewish Congress met for the first time in Switzerland to make plans for a Jewish state.  In that same year, the Germans in Austria-Hungary formed a “Pan-German” political party which called for a German country with nothing but Germans — no Jews or Gypsies or any other ethnic group allowed.

Hitler was from Austria and he became a “Pan-German” by the age of six because his father was a big supporter of Pan-Germanism.  Hitler was not an Anti-Semite; he did not want the Jews to assimilate. Hitler wanted the Jews to get the Hell out of Germany and form their own country somewhere else.

By 1882, the original German state of Austria had grown to be a multi-ethnic empire called Austria-Hungary; it included the territory which, after World War I, became the independent countries of Austria, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, and one third of the new independent country of Poland. (The Poles had lost their independence in 1795 when Prussia, Austria and Russia divided the former country of Poland.)

So it was in 1882  that the idea of the German ethnic group having a country of their own started when an Austrian politician named Georg Ritter von Schönerer first came up with the idea of Pan-Germanism, which was the concept of the unification of all ethnic Germans into one country in Europe with one leader.

Between 1815 and 1871, Germany was not a united country; it was a Confederation of independent states, as opposed to a united country with a Federal government. This caused Germany to fall behind in the quest for world power during this period. There is a German expression which says that the Germans came too late to history.

At the time that Schönerer first conceived the idea of Pan-Germanism, the German state of Prussia, led by Chancellor Otto von Bismark, had recently united the independent German states into the second German Reich (Empire) in 1871. (The first German Reich, called “the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation,” had ended in 1806.) The King of Prussia, Wilhelm I of the Hohenzollern family, became the German Emperor or Kaiser of the second German Reich. He was crowned on January 18, 1871 in the Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles in Paris, after the German state of Prussia defeated the French in the Franco-Prussian war, which was started by the French in 1870.

As a result of winning the Franco-Prussian war, the Germans took back Alsace and Lorraine, two German states which had been held by the French since they were annexed in the 17th century, several years after the devastation of the Thirty Years war had rendered the Germans powerless. Alsace and Lorraine are rich in iron ore, which the Germans needed, since they had no other source. Losing Alsace and Lorraine was a great humiliation for the French, especially because the Germans immediately began to Germanize the former German province, ordering that the German language should be used in the schools. This fostered a desire for revenge, which the French finally got when the Allies effectively destroyed Germany by imposing the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles which were dictated to the Germans by the “Big Three” (Great Britain, France and America) following World War I.

During World War I, with only the Austrians as allies, the Germans claimed that they were fighting for their right to exist as a world power and their right to expand, while the British, French and Russians, and eventually Americans, saw it as the militaristic Prussians trying to take over the world. The British had conquered one fourth of the earth’s surface back in the days when aggression against other countries was considered a legitimate way to expand; the British Empire was then the world’s greatest superpower and the British intended to keep it that way.

When the Germans tried to catch up with France and Great Britain, beginning in 1871, this led to a show-down which resulted in World War I, after the British, French and Russians became allies in secret treaties that excluded the Germans. The British, French and Russians believed that Germany had to be prevented from ever becoming a world power. This was what led to two World Wars.

After World War I, Palestine became a British protectorate and the British policy was to limit the number the European Jews going to Palestine.  That’s why Hitler began sneaking Jews into Palestine in 1934.  Edwin Black wrote a whole book about the Germans sneaking Jews into Palestine, so look it up for yourself.  It was this early emigration of German Jews to Palestine that paved the way for the country of Israel.  But it was the Holocaust that finally convinced the British and Americans that the Jews needed a country of their own.

The Jews are currently safe in their own country where they are not likely to suffer another genocide.  Helen Thomas doesn’t agree with the concept of the Jews having their own country because she thinks the Jews are not currently being persecuted, so they don’t need a country of their own.  But that could change, so America supports the idea of the Jews having their country in what used to be Palestine.

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  1. Ever heard about the ‘Khazar’ myth pushed by the Neo-Nazis/KKK?

    In fact, Jews are both a nation and a religion. the percentage of those with any roots in khazaria is so minimal, that there was only one non-historian “writer” that came up with the idea to say that the percentage is higher. As a penpal who is of Jewish background told me once: ‘Before the WW2 Were were told to go BACK to Palestine where we came from… now the same haters don’t even grant us that…’

    Oddly enough, Hitler’s “aryanism” and anti-Jewish sick obession was AGAINST The ‘khazar” myth, of course. But his followers wouldn’t care about consistency. Just as the crazy inconsistent Nazis themselves preferred long-nosed-Muslim Bosnians over Christian Serbs. Hitler [despite his alliance with fascist Arab-Islamic leadership to exterminate the Jews out of bilnd hatred] refused to drink coffee with the Arab Mufti al-Husseini or shake his hands, Arabs in Germany were subject to the same ‘racial’ treatments as Jews were. Clearly, they liked power and “ideology’ was not the only thing motivating them.

    Haters always had the contradictions. You can not “blame” the Jews for (some of them) agreeing with the Romans to kill Jesus and then contradict yourself in saying they are not the same Israelites/Hebrews/Jews… LOL

    Luckilly for the recent DNA testing, this myth has (also) been exposed as a LIE.

    SPME: Steven Plaut: The Khazar Myth and the New Anti-Semitism –

    … Some two hundred websites claim to describe a cabal known as the “Khazarian Zionist Bolsheviks” (KZV). Neo-Nazi and Holocaust denial organizations and websites are particularly fond of the Khazar myth…Arab and Islamist propagandists have long bandied about the “Ashkenazim as Khazars” theory and Iran’s genocidal leaders adore it. Al-Jazeera has been using the Khazar story to urge a worldwide Christian religious war against the Khazar pseudo-Jewish imperialists.

    Groups promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion often cite the nefarious role of Khazars as “proof” of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy (I counted 700 such websites). And even Jewish anti-Zionist cranks like Alfred M. Lilienthal and the Swedish “Israel Shamir” have used the Khazar myth to attack Zionism.

    Why are these various groups suddenly interested in a rather esoteric and archaic group of people in Central Asia that disappeared nearly a millennium ago?

    The answer is very simple.

    According to the Khazar theory of the new anti-Semites, most Jews today, particularly Ashkenazi Jews, are not racially Jews at all but descendents from the Turkic tribe of Khazars, whose ruling class and parts of its rank and file population converted to Judaism in the 8th or early 9th century CE. Hence, argue the racialists, Ashkenazi Jews have no rights to live in the racially Semitic Middle East and especially not in the Land of Israel.

    Fact and Legend

    For Jews, the history of the conversion of the Khazars to Judaism is best known from essays in The Kuzari: In Defense of the Despised Faith, a medieval book composed by the great Spanish poet and philosopher Judah Ha-Levi.

    Only part of the book actually deals with the Khazar kingdom, about which little was known, and the historic claims about them in the book are not considered fully reliable.

    In any case, The Kuzari purports to report the debates at the Khazar royal court that supposedly led to the Khazar elite’s conversion to Judaism. Other senior Jewish officials in the Spanish Muslim regimes actually corresponded with the Khazar kingdom – most notably Cordova Rabbi Hasdai ibn Shaprut (whose letters have survived). And the great Iraqi sage Saadia Gaon is believed to have maintained correspondence with Jews in the Khazar kingdom.

    It is commonly thought that part of the motivation for the Khazars’ conversion was to establish political neutrality for the Khazar kingdom, which faced potential threats from the powers of both Christendom and Islam.

    The Khazars themselves left no documentary records. The Arab historian ibn Fadlan wrote about them, but he did so two centuries after the conversions to Judaism had occurred. Some Jews, having sought refuge from Byzantine persecutions, probably lived in the Khazar kingdom long before the conversion of the royalty there.

    One ironic historical twist is that the Khazars contributed to the Cyrillic alphabet, in which Russian and some other Slavic languages are written. Saint Cyril came to Khazaria in 860 in an attempt to convert the Khazars to Christianity. Since the Hebrew of the Khazars and Greek were the main alphabets known to St. Cyril and the early Slavs, they borrowed from both.

    Western interest in the Khazars was stimulated largely by the 1976 book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler, a writer better known for his lifelong battles against totalitarianism in all its forms. Koestler’s book was largely based on the earlier book The History of the Jewish Khazars, by the historianD.M. Dunlop.

    Dunlop rejected the idea that large numbers of Ashkenazi Jews could trace their origins to the Khazars, but not so Koestler. By grossly and sensationally exaggerating the role and numbers of Khazar descendents among European Jewry, Koestler – who was a strong Zionist – inadvertently provided today’s racialist anti-Semites with all the ammunition they could want, and many of them frequently cite his book as the basis for their racialist denunciations of Israel.

    A number of more serious books about Khazars are now on the market, including The Jews of Khazaria by Kevin Alan Brook. Rabbi Bernard Rosensweig was one of the leading figures in debunking the Khazar theory of Ashkenazi Jewish origins. Writing in Tradition (16:5, Fall 1977, pages 139-162), he dismissed it as “wobbly scholarly foundations without historical support.”

    Likewise, the Swedish archaeologist Bozena Werbart, an expert on the Khazars, wrote: “In the Khazar kingdom, Koestler wanted to see the origin of the eastern European Jewry. Nevertheless, all the historical and linguistic facts contradicted his theories.”

    As The Encyclopedia of Judaism (1989) emphatically states, “The notion that Ashkenazi Jewry is descended from the Khazars has absolutely no basis in fact.”

    What Became of the Khazars

    The actual Khazar kingdom was partly subjugated by the early Russians in the 10th century, and whatever was left was annihilated as a result of the Mongol invasions of Central Asia.

    What exactly became of the Khazar Jews is simply not known. Those who retained their Judaism probably integrated themselves into other Jewish communities around the world. Some groups of Khazars joined the Magyar invasion into what became Hungary and may have merged with local Jews already living in those lands; indeed, archeologists have found Jewish stars in the remains of Hungarian Khazar villages.

    Small groups of Khazar mercenaries probably found refuge in other places. Most likely the largest integration of Khazar Jews among other Jews took place in Iran and Iraq, the large communities closest to the Khazar kingdom and with whom close ties had been maintained.

    (An urban legend holds that red-haired Jews are descended from Khazars, though that could hardly explain King David, not to mention Esau. Arthur Koestler claimed many were blond with blue eyes.)

    In any case, Khazar political existence ended a thousand years ago.

    So what are we to make of the Khazar myth concerning Ashkenazi Jews and their supposed lack of legitimate claims to Israel due to their Khazar origins? The greatest irony is that even if the entire Khazar theory of Ashkenazi Jews were correct – and virtually none of it is correct – it would be entirely irrelevant. Judaism has never defined Jews on racial grounds. Anyone from any race is welcome as a convert to Judaism as long as he or she is sincere.

    The biblical Israelites themselves were already a racial hodgepodge. They absorbed the “mixed multitude” that left Egypt together with them at the time of the Exodus. There are biblical references to Jews of different racial features, including the black-skinned Shulamit mentioned in the Song of Songs.

    Jews always defined themselves in religious, ethnic-national and at times linguistic terms, but never along racial lines. If all Ashkenazi Jews were indeed converted Khazars, as the racial anti-Zionists claim, they would be no less legitimately Jews – and, as such, would have the same legitimate claims to the Jewish homeland as any other group of Jews. (Given the traditional Jewish deference to righteous converts, maybe more so.)

    Pseudo-History

    The actual details of the Khazar theory concerning European Jewry are simply pseudo-history.

    Jews already lived in Europe a thousand years before the Khazar kingdom was formed. There are no genetic markers or indicators at all showing that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Turkic tribes. In fact, there exists considerable genetic evidence showing that European Jews are closer to Levantine and Syrian Arabs than to Central Asians.

    After the Mongol invasion most Khazars probably assimilated into the Jewish communities of Iran and Iraq, which of course eventually emerged as important Sephardic centers, formed mainly of Jews with Semitic racial characteristics, descended from migrants and exiled Jews from the Land of Israel. In any case, there are more “Semitic” Sephardic Jews in Israel today than there are European Ashkenazi Jews. And if the Khazars looked Turkic, how on earth could they give Ashkenazi Jews a European complexion?

    There are other problems. If all Ashkenazi Jews are descended from converted Khazars, why are there Cohens and Levis among them? One inherits the status of a Cohen (priest) or Levite from one’s father. Descendants of converts through the male line can never be a Cohen or a Levite.

    And why are there no Khazar surnames among Ashkenazim, or Khazar names for towns in Europe where Jews lived? And why did most Ashkenazi communities speak variations of Yiddish rather than Turkic?

    As mentioned, the popularity of the Khazar myth among anti-Semites represents a return of modern anti-Jewish bigotry to the racialism of the 1930’s and earlier.

    Nearly every anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi website denounces Zionists and Israelis as “Khazars.” Web chat lists in which Jews defending Israel are dismissed as “Khazar usurpers” are too numerous to count.

    The racialism once again in vogue holds that Jews would only have legitimate claims to the right of self-determination in their homeland if they were appropriately Semitic from a racial point of view. Palestine is part of the Semitic racial lebensraum and those who do not possess the correct pure racial markings have no business being there. Racial purity is suddenly the new basis for national rights.

    I discovered scores of neo-Nazi websites claiming that “Khazar Zionists” were really behind the 9/11 attacks. I found thousands of websites claiming that “Khazar Jew-pretenders” are in a conspiratorial league with Freemasons, the Vatican, the Illuminati and others to control the world.

    Khazar conspiracists go further along these lines by the day; a widely cited Ku Klux Klan website claims that the pro-Israel evangelist Pat Robertson is really a Khazar Jew. The neo-Nazi American Patriots Friends Network claims Khazars are themselves descended from the Magog race and secretly control America.

    If we take the racialist argument to its logical conclusion, Palestinian Arabs have the right to exercise all claims to sovereignty in Israel due to their being true racial Jews, while Zionists are non-Jewish Khazars – racial imposters and usurpers.

    Arabs themselves are, of course, a mix of racial strains, with a particularly large Caucasian component thanks to Arab intermixing with Spanish and Italian Europeans, Caucasian Berbers, Vandals, Goths, and even some Vikings.

    The racialist delegitimizing of Zionism as “Khazar imperialism” is right up there with the “Jesus was a Palestinian” theory and the claim that all real Jews (from a racial point of view) converted to Islam after the Arab conquest of Palestine in the 7th century and so became Palestinian Arabs. One can also find countless websites claiming those things.

    Afterword:

    This week I published an article on how Neo-Nazis, Palestinian terrorists, and leftist anti-Semites are obsessed with the “Khazar Myth”, holding that all Ashkenazi Jews are descendent from Khazar converts to Judaism over a millennium ago. It is a way to delegitimze Israel and Jews:

    It is one of the great ironies of the 21st century that anti-Zionists and anti-Semites on both the Left and the Right, have returned to racialist arguments against Jews that most of us thought had died out after World War II. Nearly every anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi website denounces Zionists and Israelis as “Khazars.” Web chat lists in which Jews defending Israel are dismissed as “Khazar usurpers” are too numerous to count. The racialism once again in vogue holds that Jews would only have legitimate claims to the right of self-determination in their homeland if they were appropriately Semitic from a racial point of view. Palestine is part of the Semitic racial lebensraum and those who do not possess the correct pure racial markings have no business being there. Racial purity is suddenly the new basis for national rights.

    The “Institute for Historic Review” is a Holocaust Denial Neo-Nazi web site. Here it behaves as a wonderful member of the Axis of Evil, Nazis allied with Arab terrorists, banning together to promote the Khazar Myth:
    Furthermore, the Jews of Ashkenazi extraction are descendants of the Khazars, a people of Turkish stock, who occupied an area between the Black and Caspian Seas, a territory now a part of the Soviet Union. The Khazars, originally pagans, had in 740 A.D. embraced Judaism and their descendants, while they may profess the Jewish faith today, cannot claim to be of the “seed of Abraham” and “heirs according to the Promise.” The ancestors of those Jews who today immigrate to Palestine from Europe and the Americas and claim Palestine and beyond as their ancestral homeland, came not from Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, and that genetically, they are more closely related to the Hun and Magyar than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Besides, religion does not confer heritage or property rights on people!

    Finally, a Neo-Nazi “blogger” named Kurt Nimmo, who is an unemployed New Mexico conspiracty “theorist”, a devotee of Holocaust Denier David Irving, and a regular on the Uruknet web site of exiled Iraqi Baathists, has called ME a Khazar: He wrote: Plaut and his Ashkenazic buddies are actually descended from the Turkic Khazars in eastern Europe, although they like to pretend they are direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews, a Semitic people closer to the Palestinians than Plaut would ever admit. Plaut and his poseur settler friends are a far cry from the ancient Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Arameans, Hebrews, and Arabs. They are more akin to English colonists attacking Pequot villages and killing innocent men, women, and children than I will ever be.

    http://spme.net/cgi-bin/articles.cgi?ID=2220

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    * Ashkenazi Jews are not Khazars – Real Khazar Culture & Beauty …
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVavcccUeZg

    Aug 26, 2010 – 4 min – Uploaded by KazakhPower
    As a real Khazar from Chapaev, Kazakhstan I have heard of these lies that the Zionist Jews who …

    * Jews are not Khazars – Real Khazarian Culture & Beauty

    Sep 3, 2010
    There have been many false theories said out there of the Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of Khazar (Khazarian) who converted to Judaism and are the Jews of today and as a real Khazar myself from Chapaev,..

    * Khazars are Muslim not Jews – Muslims Exposed – YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d8NH3VMtVI

    Feb 12, 2011 – 10 min
    Anti-Israeli nut heads have made up a funny theory that Jews today descend from a Asian..

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    Ashkenazi & Sefardi Jews are all of the ‘same one nation’ | DNA VS “kahzar” myth

    Published online 2000 May 9. PMCID: PMC18733

    Copyright © The National Academy of Sciences
    Medical Sciences
    Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes

    M. F. Hammer…

    Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level… The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18733/?tool=pmcentrez

    Y Chromosome Bears Witness to Story of the Jewish Diaspora
    By NICHOLAS WADE
    Published: May 9, 2000

    With a new technique based on the male or Y chromosome, biologists have traced the diaspora of Jewish populations from the dispersals that began in 586 B.C. to the modern communities of Europe and the Middle East.

    The analysis provides genetic witness that these communities have, to a remarkable extent, retained their biological identity separate from their host populations, evidence of relatively little intermarriage or conversion into Judaism over the centuries.

    Another finding, paradoxical but unsurprising, is that by the yardstick of the Y chromosome, the world’s Jewish communities closely resemble not only each other but also Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, suggesting that all are descended from a common ancestral population that inhabited the Middle East some four thousand years ago.

    Dr. Lawrence H. Schiffman, chairman of the department of Hebrew and Judaic Studies at New York University, said the study fit with historical evidence that Jews originated in the Near East and with biblical evidence suggesting that there were a variety of families and types in the original population.

    He said the finding would cause ”a lot of discussion of the relationship of scientific evidence to the manner in which we evaluate long-held academic and personal religious positions,” like the question of who is a Jew.

    The study, reported in today’s Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, was conducted by Dr. Michael F. Hammer of the University of Arizona with colleagues in the United States, Italy, Israel, England and South Africa. The results accord with Jewish history and tradition and refute theories like those holding that Jewish communities consist mostly of converts from other faiths, or that they are descended from the Khazars, a medieval Turkish tribe that adopted Judaism.

    The analysis by Dr. Hammer and colleagues is based on the Y chromosome, which is passed unchanged from father to son. Early in human evolution, all but one of the Y chromosomes were lost as their owners had no children or only daughters, so that all Y chromosomes today are descended from that of a single genetic Adam who is estimated to have lived about 140,000 years ago…
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D02E0D71338F93AA35756C0A9669C8B63

    Abraham’s children in the genome era: major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared Middle Eastern Ancestry.

    G Atzmon, L Hao, I Pe’er, C Velez, A Pearlman, PF Palamara, B Morrow, E Friedman, C Oddoux, E Burns, H Ostrer

    For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.
    http://www.mitochondrial.net/showabstract.php?pmid=20560205
    http://www.med.nyu.edu/people/H.Ostrer.html

    JEWS ARE FROM ISRAEL, SO-CALLED “PALESTINIANS” FROM ARABIA

    http://www.think-israel.org/aug06bloged.html#aug06.241

    Posted by Palestinian Facts Org, August 29, 2006.

    Arabs [propagandists] claim that (some of?) today’s Jews aren’t really descendants of ancient Israelites and are really converts WITHOUT EVER SHOWING ANY PROOF.

    Here’s GENETIC PROOF that not only are Jews descendants of the Jews who were exiled from Israel by Romans, but Jews of today have more Israelite genes than Arabs have genes of ancient Arabs. Furthermore, SO-CALLED “palestinians” are originally from Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Go back wherever the hell you came from!

    University of Baltimore Study: Jews are originally from northern Middle East (where Israel is located), while SO-CALLED “palestinians” are originally from Saudi Arabia.

    The study also says that while Jews are partially the product of mixed-marriages and converts, Jews have about 70% to 80% blood of ancient Israelites, while Arabs have only 50% blood of ancient Arabs. (http://www.ubalt.edu/kulanu/jewishdna.html), National Academy of Sciences: Several lines of evidence support the hypothesis that Diaspora Jews from Europe, Northwest Africa, and the Near East resemble each other more closely than they resemble their non-Jewish neighbors.

    Second, despite their high degree of geographic dispersion, Jewish populations from Europe, North Africa, and the Near East were less diverged genetically from each other than any other group of populations in this study (meaning that Jews have more Israelite genes than Arabs have genes of ancient Arabs). Our results indicated a relatively minor contribution of European Y chromosomes to the Ashkenazim. If we assume 80 generations since the founding of the Ashkenazi population, then the rate of admixture would be
    Stanford University: If you made a genetic map of Europe and the Middle East and you put Ashkenazi Jews on it, they would not end up in Turkey or in the middle of Europe, but in the Mediterranean.
    http://www.forward.com/issues/2001/01.08.17/genetic2.html

    University of Arizona: We saw such a strong signal of a Middle-Eastern origin in Jews. Jews really are a single ethnic group coming from the Middle East. Even if you look like another European with blue eyes and light skin, your genes are telling that you’re from the Middle East.
    http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/000519/study.shtml

    NY Times: The analysis provides genetic witness that these communities have, to a remarkable extent, retained their biological identity separate from their host populations, evidence of relatively little intermarriage or conversion into Judaism over the centuries.
    http://foundationstone.com.au/htmlSupport/WebPage/semiticGenetics.html

    Reuters (on Yahoo web site): A study shows that Jews suffer from the same illnesses. If Jews were mere French, Polish, etc. converts, they would not share the same genetic makeup with each other.
    http://in.news.yahoo.com/011217/107/1b4p6.html

    ABC News: “Jews have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years. Very few non-Jewish European genes have gotten into the Ashkenazi (European and American) Jewish populations. The comparison, published Monday, of groups of Semites also shows that Jews have successfully resisted having their gene pool diluted, despite having lived among non-Jews for thousands of years in what is commonly known as the Diaspora
    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/

    Hebrew University: Jews are from Middle East.
    http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/11/06/News/News.14948.html

    BBC on another genetic study proving that Jews descended from Israel.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_742000/742430.stm

    This fascinating book traces the genetic chromosome makeup of the Jewish people and proves their decent from Ancient Israel. It focuses on the DNA makeup of the Kohanim in both Sephardic (Iberian, North African and Middle Eastern Jews) and Ashkenazic( North, East and Central European Jews) communities and shows that the genetic differences between Sephardic and Ashkenazic Jews are minor. I The author shows a marked understanding and knowledge of a number of disciplines.
    Rabbi Kleiman explains how the Kohanim and the Jewish people have passed the test of time and of tradition, and tradition has passed the test of science.
    Science has proved that Jewish men from communities in the Middle East: Iran, Iraq, Kurds, Yemenites and Roman Jews as well as Ashkenazim/European Jews- all have very similar almost identical profiles.

    The author quotes Professor Michael Hammer who comments:

    “Despite the long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level. The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora”. The genetic research confirms that most Jews today are indeed the descendants of ancestors who came from the Middle East. Jews everywhere are closely genetically related.
    These studies also reveal that there is a closer genetic affinity of Jews to non-Jewish, non- Arab populations in the Middle East, such as Kurds, Turks, Druze and Lebanese Maronites, than to Arabs.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R31VJ96JPKCUXR/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

    Holy Discovery

    Scientist works with stem cells during the day, and solves Jewish genealogy riddles in spare time
    Peter Goodspeed, National Post Published: Wednesday, October 28, 2009
    …the former University of Toronto professor has become world famous for applying genetics to genealogy and transforming history. He has found evidence to support traditional claims that modern-day Jewish priests, Cohanim, are descended from a single common male ancestor ” biblically said to be Aaron, the older brother of Moses. Among the other intriguing findings he has uncovered: that 40% of Ashkenazi Jews can trace their descent to four “founding mothers” who lived in Europe 1,000 years ago, evidence that all Jewish communities share a common paternal origin in the Near East..
    http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=2152933

    The Khazars and The Jews Dr. Thomas Ice

    DNA AND THE KHAZARS

    […]
    The opinion of historians and genealogists concerning the Khazars is now confirmed with the development of using DNA as a reliable way to analyze one’s genealogical heritage. Kevin Alan Brook9 is a leading researcher on the Khazars, and tells us the following:

    We no longer need to rely on speculation. It is now a known FACT that German Jews mingled with other Jews when they came east. It is also clear that the ancient Israelites possessed those Y-DNA patterns that are found in common among Sephardic Jews, Ashkenazic Jews, Kurdish Jews, and Indian Jews, despite the fact that ultimately those patterns may have earlier stemmed, in part, from somewhere in Kurdistan or Armenia or Iraq. The Middle Eastern Y-DNA patterns in the J and E haplogroups cannot be explained by Khazars. Some of the mtDNA evidence and Levite Y-DNA can be, however.

    Brook’s overall conclusion of Khazar origins is as follows:

    In summary, Eastern European Jews are descended from a mixture of German and Austrian Jews, Czech Jews, and East Slavic Jews. The East Slavic Jews may haveroots in both the Khazar and Byzantine empires, hence necessitating our further study of Jewish life in those lands. But the largest, and most influential, proportion of Eastern European Jews came from Central Europe. By this analysis we can show that the dominant ethnic element among Eastern European Jews is Judean-the ancient Jewish people of Judea in the Middle East.

    CONCLUSION

    The Khazar theory has been completely refuted by both scholarly research into the history of the Khazars and, more recently, by genetic evidence showing that Jews from all parts of the world are genetically closely related to Middle Eastern Jews and not so closely related to non-Jewish Russians, Eastern Europeans, or others from that region. “Dr. Michael Hammer showed that based exclusively on the Y- chromosome (parental) shows that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to Yemenite Jews, Iraqi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Kurdish Jews, and Arabs than they are to European Christian populations,” notes Joel Baine rman. True research on the matter reveals that only a tiny percentage of Jews have any descent through the Khazars. So it appears that the Khazar theory is just that, a theory, and not a very good one. It is safe to conclude that most of the Jews living today in Israel and still in the Diaspora are clear descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…
    http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/khazars-and-jews

    Comment by freedemocracy — January 18, 2012 @ 1:01 pm

  2. By the way for those who love to blame the “Nazis” for everything…Simon Wiesenthall the so called “Nazi Hunter”, symbol of Israel’s dedication to “justice” in tracking National Socialist military war criminals not among the thousands imported to USA by its government or the thousands aided in escaping by the US Government has been shown to be a complete and money grubbing fraud. He certainly IS a symbol of Israel, that’s for sure,

    Comment by Jaques — May 26, 2011 @ 4:04 pm

  3. The deRothschild/Rockefeller conspiracy called “the Central Banking System” or “Federal Reserve” or the Reserve Bank” dependant on your country,controls all governments and is represented well in the Bilderbergers, a secrets organism attended by world leaders and other parasites at public expense.

    The “global melt down” was not when things went wrong but when they went right. In 1994 Bilderberger, freemason, illuminati Central banker partner (wealth some $20 trillion or so…the central bankers are never audited)Rockefeller said, as I recall it ‘we thank the media which has kept silent on our meetings for 40 years, had the public known of our actions we would never have advanced the cause of one world government as far as we have. What we now need is a catastrophy wich will see the world clamoring for one government”

    That catastrophe, as well as the CIA and neo-con crimes against humanity was the global melt down. After a run up in 1988, the stage was set. The scapegoats, now refunded by the US, were Lehmans ,Sachs and Morgans.

    All are entities tied back to the Central bankers and were used to distract people from following the track back to deRothschild and Rockefeller’s Central banker system. They wanted universal destabilisation and massive debt increases along with huge increases in banker profits at our expense and they have it.

    Bankrupt government is now at the whim of the Central Bankers ( predicted), as are businesses, home losers and prospective home buyers and all dependant businesses. Living “willingly” in indoctrinated denial they blame everyone but the right people.

    The “silent” media Rockefeller spoke-of is predominenetly jewish owned and Murdoch, a Zionist Jewish Newspaper magnate is one of the Bilderbergers on my best information of this secretive world controller-bent organism of preposterous banking industry media and government “leaders”.

    As I said earlier, you can sit on your fanny, excited by Seinfeld and drivel such as the Simpsons, Southpark,Benny Hinn, a sting of US TV “F grade” productions sold worldwide and specialising in dumb-down, violence, bloodshed, caucophony and sexual excesses, a predominence of sport , “public figure” and ghastly “cooking” shows such as “Masterchef” and “Ironchef” and many more even more insipid ones.

    Then come the more insidious varieties , the TV designed to entertain bored, brain dead, fatigued and the feeble minded with pathetic people enacting dangerous CIA brain control psychology in “reality TV” shows of various kinds featuring people masturbating under the blankets, running around near naked and numerous other voyeur situations through to through to faked jungle experiences pitting one against the other in “gladiator” contests and on the ground in places like Vanuatu .

    Next we have the truly grotesque and appalling “dancing” contests…sometimes great gymnasts with scantily clad women and unless you know what real Latin daning is like, for example, you simply cheer along with the boneheads and well paid “professionals” who comment on the awful dancing some who know no better. The perform largely like puppets with a carrot up their khyber…”can you dance” they call it….”dancing”.. Phewww!! its’s the “wiggles” level “entertainment” for adults.

    All are not entertainment alone, they are brain softening American psychology designed destractions from the reality that our nations are participating in genocide, torture, dispossession and supporting “regime change”.

    Hussein for example was demonised through repetitive media revampings of his ‘crimes” but that the CIA and Mossad and the IDF were all involved in covert actions to enrage Hussein and place him in predictably positions where people were murdered, sometimes on false testimony arranged by Israel.A great thing was made of the appalling treatment of the Kurds, a natural enemy, yet Schwartzkopf left Iraq with its helicopter gunships after the 1991 TV series “Iraq war spectacular”…the nerve gas was supplied by Washington, the co-ordinates by Israeli satellite programmes. To his dying day Hussein denied the masacre but whether or not he ordered it, Israel has tested chemical and biologocal weapons materiel on dissident jews,captured Palestinians and poor blacks in Sowheto hospital.(Profits of War, Mossad ex officxe Ari ben Menashe). Britain, the hypocrites, gassed the kurds in 1920!! Mustard gas was created by IG Farben’s scientist Haber and Zyklon was also manufactured by IG Farben, again an associate of the Central bankers and which owned the Auschwitz work camp and its medical laboratories lock stock and barrel.

    All this just scratches the surface but the question still remains will you continue to accept a world controlled by knee jerk mantra chanters accusing any critique of Khazars “anti semitism” ..thus displaying their ignorance, any one seaching the truth of the appalling pogem” called the holocaust a “denier” or “jew-hater” whilst themselves ignoring the 25 times bigger “holocaust” performed on non-jews by the jews controlling the USSR. 500,000 non jews were also murdered in Germany before the Jewish pogrom grom began and it was on those non-jews that Zyklon was tested.

    The total deaths of non jews in the pogrom was at least as many as of the jews.The claims on numbers of the jewish deaths has been falling over decades but in my view one was one too many. Hitler’s reaction to the jewish massacres of non jews in Ukraine in 1938/9 and elewhere cannot be truly justified, nor can the work camp operations. In seeking to stop the advance of “atheistic”-jewish communism he eventually empowered it by default and enabled his jewish state in Palestine to become, again without intention, one of the worst regimes on earth to become empowered for 65 years of atrocity, much of it “pure-Gestapo”

    Hussein’s model Semite state was a threat to the assidulously paranoic Khazar rulers of Israel and the conniving US Presidency. The disgustng spectacle and fact of the standup, cheeering Khazar-Zionist “Jewish” support for war criminal, pathological liar Mylekowski in the congress yesterday shows the extent of our problem.

    When will “the people” who have enough decency get off their backsides?? and say “enough is enough” to their (by comparison) tiny numbers in Government” and take the hits and refuse to budge.Today moral Jews are very active in seeking to stop the Israeli atrocity and regain Palestine for the Palestinians. People world wide are rising too but it’s not enough. So far they have only achieved what the New Order allows them to achieve, Not until the New Order quakes at our achievements will we be on the road to success against dehuminsing government and atrocity. One simple method of containment of the criminal Bankers was tried by both Lincoln and Kennedy and both were promptly assassinated. They can fear, and it’s up to us to frighten them and if necessary to take their wealth…Between deRothschild and Rockefeller we are looking at personal wealth of at least $US 220 Trillion.

    Russia’s idea of a Gulag was an abuse, but I think the majority of politicians ought to be condemned to hard labour in Siberia to get them to realise who they actually are…and are not. The overwhelming propaganda and the never-ending stream of lies about Israel’s founding, its role, its ‘holocaust connections’ and its “self defence” is being slowly broken down but in the meantime its new world order is advancing.

    Will you simply tolerate the presentation of the world as a “terroist haven” of “Al Q’ada by the Zionist created New Order to bring you, dissipated, confused and lacking controllable hope, around to one world government, or snap out of it and fight?

    It’s up to you…..but don’t cry for your children or expect any mercy when you protest when its all too late.

    Comment by Jaques — May 26, 2011 @ 3:56 pm

  4. Grunberger commentary is archetypal Khazar.In actual fact the non Jewish Arabs gave more to the world than “the jews”…which are not sephardic jews in any event.It’s apointless argument inso far as Israel is a state of denial supported by liars. The holocaust so called, which the allies permitted without interference and in fact fed it by returning refugees there on the orders of the Jewish (Khazar Zionist) Board of Deputies as did Stern and his terrorist collaborators. Israel was formed, commencing in 1934, by Hitler not by “bleeding heart” allies. He transported Jews there, built their first bank and traded with them, To say there was inadequate water is utter nonsense. The Israelites in what eventually became a “legally” stolen country traded with Germany, the 3rd Reich, in Oranges. Unless you are completely dull you will realise oranges need considerable water. Only through the criminal expansionism of Israel post WW11, its more recognised atrocities commencing with the bombing of the King David Hotel and going on to an anti-semite pogrom did water become a real issue.They then stole the water as they did the farms lives and futures of the historical owners of the Lands. Jews occupation lasted about 700 years in post ‘exodus’ invasion of it. Nebuchandezzar defeated them and later exiled them all for “treachery”, an ongoing trait which saw them treated with suspicion and mistrust which ever country gave them refuge.Today Israel is the centre of lies and other deception. Its Prime Minitsers cannot even tell the truth about their own names and heritage…and crimes.Israel has been plundering the property of holocaust victims, has been an assassinator worthy of an abbattoir,specialises in false flagging crimes against humanity which it performs or has performed by others. It is the spearhead of the New World Order backed and underwritten by the Jewish owners of the Central banking Systems of the world.It has received billions (400 bilion from USA alone) in blood money, drug money, war materials, thefts,money laundering. Mayer Lansky, head of mudrder inc was a substantial contributor. Lowy, a partner in the ‘twin towers’ (apparently a conspiracy on other commentaries) along with Silverstein was recently accused of laundering 70 million dollars there..but these are drops in the ocean for this corrupt “state” foever claiming to be “poor”.Yes they are Khazar, hardly an Hebrew exists. Yes Helen Thomas was right…they ought to get out as there is no Jewish persecut. Jewish persecuiton could never have reached the level of persecution by the Russian Jewish rulers (Trotsky Lenin Stalin etc) who murdered some 100 million non jews.The world is spoonfed lies by the Jewish powerbrokers, the zionists and sadly, by too many self deluding jews like Gruerger and the ADL and B’nai Brith and numerous other power broker organisms.Brain softened by US-Israeli propaganda and US TV and Film drivel and misinformation, Jewish Hollywood permeating indoctrination concerning sex drugs and lies and its majority ownership of media including Time and Newsweek…people lap up this Israel/holocaust allied creation tie-up waffle.Helen Thomas is quite right…send them all back to whence they came is probably the best solution, there is no “Jewish persecution”, there is no “right” to Palestine, nor was there to Canaan…and certainly non for Khazars even in the wildest flight of fantasy. Failing the complete vacation, especially of those fanatical so called “jews” who go there to settle so as to deny Palestinians there own land, then engaging in murder and bashing of Semites going about there legitimate business.The second choice would be to force them to return to the 1947 boundaries, hand all property over undamaged to palestine and pay reparation for the Israeli crimes against humanity and the hundreds of thousands of semites mordered, tortured, raped, crippled, driven mad and dispossessed of land and life’s entitlements.Helen IS a semite, few Jews are semites these days as most are decendants of the vile and brutal Khazars. At the end of the day, Khazar Jews have massacred directly or by proxy, 100 million in USSR, 100million in WW1 and WW11, 700,000 in Iraq just in the recent invasion alone and over a million in Lebanese and Palestinians have died for the Khazar Jewish owners of the Central Banking System. Then you can go back to the American war of independance, the predominence of Jewish slave owners in the Civil war which had little to do with slavery, the French Revolution and Waterloo. Napoleaon and Hitler both knew where the world’s endangerment eminated and Voltaire said it well for us “the truth is the aagreed version of events decided by the victors” Napoleon, the brilliant and somewhat maligned leader referred to the criminality of the people like de Rothschild, who now controls all government “”When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” One can look into history under the deRothschild timelines and US history of the Central bankers to see how mournful and frustrated American politicians in their grip had become. It’s a story that can fill volumes and the stench of death is on every page.

    Comment by Jaques — May 26, 2011 @ 2:16 pm

  5. You see Israel has more over the counter COMPANYS THEN THEN JAPAN

    \\ companys as Japan there money is better then ours.
    Helen Thomas drank antisemitism with here mothers milk,We jews are 0.02 and we have 37% Noble prise winners, What did here people give the world , maybe algebra ?

    Comment by Arnold Grunberger — April 18, 2011 @ 3:27 pm

  6. Further Glory,
    This was a very informative article and I have learned a lot from it.
    I hope you wouldn’t mind me sharing some of my personal thoughts regarding this matter.
    I am afraid that the problem with a jewish state in Palestine is more complicated than you think. The territory of occupied Palestine lacks natural resources, including the water. It also have very limited arable land. The big chunk of the territory is inhabitable Negev desert. The zionist idea of the state of Israel was an utopian one in the first place. The country of “all chosen people” without oil, gas and limited water supply cannot be a viable one. In the Summer of 2006, Israel tried to capture 16 miles of Southern Lebanon territory to get access to Litani River waters, but was defeated by Hezbollah. For that reason, Israel put their own commandos in danger by sending them over mile deep into Lebanese territory, where they encountered Hezbollah fighters. The jewish commandos were killed and the border incident had been provoked. Israeli Air Force bombed all targets indiscriminately and thousand for civilians, including women and children, were killed. Someday, there will be historians which would this 2006 war as “The Water War”.
    Now, bear with me for a second, I am not off the topic at all.
    I would recommend the book “The Wolf of Kremlin” written by Stuart Kahan. The author, an American, met his uncle Lazar Kaganovich, the top Stalin’s henchmen, in Moscow and wrote down his story. The book was published in the United States in 1987 and was never reprinted since then. I wish, I would read it back in 1987. The bottom line of that book is that Lazar Kaganovich was sending thousand or even millions of the people for their certain death, one way, or another, for the sake of “the jews”. That is what his upbringing was and what he was striving for. And even Kaganovich was strongly against of the creation of jewish state in Palestine. The reasons were the same, as I have described. The lack of water and the total absence of natural resources. In the mind of Lazar Kaganovich, creation of such state would be bad for “the jews”.
    Did I mention, that he was also in charge of all railroad and subway systems in USSR? He really knew about infrastructure, economics and other stuff, didn’t he?
    At this moment, the population of Israel, occupied West Bank and blockaded Gaza is around 10 millions.
    The original zionist idea was to bring all of the jews to the “promised land”, i.e. modern time Palestine.
    Since we have about 12 to 15 millions of jews living outside of Israel, one could only imagine what would happened in that land, if the zionist dream would come true. Should additional 12 million people move to the Palestine and that area is doomed to a humanitarian and ecological disaster. Killing or displacing of all remaining Arabs is not an option. There still won’t be enough water for such huge population living in that area. Do they really expect that Germany will be send tankers with the fresh water on the daily basis as the reparations for holocaust?
    I have deliberately omitted the discussion about Semitic or Aryan races. It has no scientific proofs and appears to have too many blurry lines. Also, the very idea of Aryan myth is not contained to the language group either. The Iranians, Pakistanis and other nations of that area are claiming to be the original Aryan race. The name of the country “Iran” means country of “Aryans”. Adolf Hitler would not dispute that.
    And why would it matter anyway?
    But, Helen Thomas is right. She belongs to that area of the world, while apparent descendant of Khazars, Bibi Netanyahu does not.
    All jews originated from Eastern Europe have no links to Palestine. They are the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic tribe, which had built the kingdom of Khazars on the banks of Volga River in VIII century A.D., accepted judaism as the state religion and were destroyed 200 years later. After being dispersed in Eastern Europe, they have not assimilated to the host nations and continued their adherence to Talmud/Torah teachings, thus alienating themselves to the rest of the world.
    Here is the summary:
    The “jews’ of today’s Palestine are not really the “biblical jews”, but rather a Khazar/Turks who have no links to the land they are occupying now.
    The area of occupied Palestine is not big enough to support of all jews, who were to move there according to zionist doctrine.

    Comment by Gasan — February 23, 2011 @ 9:15 pm


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