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August 20, 2011

Real Holocaust deniers don’t use Facebook

Filed under: Holocaust — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 10:29 am

I have heard so much about Holocaust denial now being allowed on Facebook that I finally decided to check it out.  This wordpress blog gives some links to the Facebook pages that are supposedly Holocaust denial.   I checked out some of the so-called Holocaust denial on Facebook and I did not see anything worth reading.  I don’t understand what the fuss is all about.  I am not on Facebook myself — I consider it to be a huge waste of time.

Nobody asked for my opinion, but I am going to give it anyway.  I think that putting Holocaust denial on Facebook trivializes Holocaust denial, or revisionism as most people prefer to call it.  I think that Facebook should NOT allow Holocaust denial.  Making Holocaust denial a part of social networking leads young people to believe that Holocaust denial is a joke and not a serious matter.

Check out a real Holocaust denial blog here.

13 Comments

  1. I understand that with such a large number of people, an exact number count would not be logically possible becausd the Shoah occurred during the paper and typewriter age.

    If the technology of today was available, courtesy of the computer, records would’ve been more accurate.

    But didn’t the American Red Cross keep death records?

    I know Auschwitz Birkenau filed false death certificates for the new arrivals sent directly to the gas chambers.

    Survivor Ernie Michel discussed his work assignment at Auschwitz was to create these certificates because they liked his handwriting.

    So after the war, if there were any survivors left in a family or friends I’m sure tried to track down the fate of the person they were searching for.

    I am willing to agree with part of your comment that some Jewish prisoners may have fallen through the cracks if they were transferred to another camp or they didn’t have surviving family members or other persons trying to locate them.

    Your commentary doesn’t appear to me that you deny the Shoah ever happened, but are merely questioning the accuracy of the documentation as material fact.

    There’s nothing wrong with that. The problem I have is when people say it never happened or as an ignorant man I know told me the Jews were treated wonderfully and Auschwitz was like a spa.

    Views like that are insane.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — December 18, 2011 @ 6:47 pm

  2. I’m for free speech and am far left in my political views, however, when it comes to the Holocaust or Shoah I fail to see concrete evidence that disproves that it ever happened or was less dramatic than depicted.

    Archived footage, photos, falsified death records.

    Are you saying that over one million Jews at Auschwitz Birkenau died of natural causes?

    That six million Jews and one third of the Jewish population in Europe at that time all died of natural causes?

    It was genocide. No law, no justice and no human rights.

    Just torture and death.

    The Wannsee Conference decided on a Final Solution to the Jewish question. And that was to cleanse Nazi controlled Europe of all Jews.

    The survivors testimony and eyewitness accounts to the atrocities can’t be discounted.

    The Nazi’s destroyed evidence when the end of their reign was near, but there were many pictures taken and relics left behind.

    I know Auschwitz survivors and this event in world history was very real.

    What pains me is seeing Jewish deniers or revisionists.

    I’m glad my great grandparents who were secular Jews got out of Germany and came to America about 20 years before Hitler.

    I light a candle for the six million who have no voice and for the survivors who still bear the deep scars of terror and loss.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — December 17, 2011 @ 7:01 pm

    • You wrote: “Are you saying that over one million Jews at Auschwitz Birkenau died of natural causes?”

      The current number of deaths given at Auschwitz-Birkenau is 1.1 million of which 900,000 were Jews. The original figure given by the Soviet Union at the Nuremberg IMT was 4 million. Both of these figures are estimates. The prisoners who were gassed immediately upon arrival were not registered in the camp, so the number of Jews who were killed in the gas chambers is unknown. The train records have never been found, or never released, so the number of Jews who arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau is unknown. The estimate of 1.1 million deaths is based on the estimated number of arrivals, minus the prisoners who were sent to another camp after they were registered. The number of Jews who were sent to another camp without being registered is unknown.

      The figure of 6 million is also an estimate. Other estimates are as high as 11 million. The exact number of deaths will never be known because many of the records were confiscated by the Soviet Union. Some of the records have been released but not all of them. As records are released, the number of 6 million does not change. This number was established by the Nuremberg IMT, based on hearsay evidence. For example, the number of deaths at Majdanek, claimed by the Soviets at the IMT, was 1.5 million. Now that figure has been officially reduced to 78,000, of which 59,000 were Jews. However, the figure of 6 million Jewish deaths is unchanged.

      Comment by furtherglory — December 18, 2011 @ 6:36 am

  3. Well there is a lot of Rubbish in this UK website, I don’t think we should even try to convert the hardcore believers but those who are not so passionate and indoctrinated about the holocaust and the Jewish monopoly of suffering…these people might have left an opening in their brain for reasoning and doubt …like students in universities, like some newbies in face book….but you cannot show an old dog new tricks, that I do agree with you!

    Comment by sonico — August 24, 2011 @ 4:44 pm

  4. By the way codoh via Bradely Smith, has done a terrific work posting article from different revisionist sites…you can check it out : https://www.facebook.com/Bradley1930

    Comment by sonico — August 22, 2011 @ 12:14 pm

  5. Well I find your comments, about using Face Book to exchange revisionism points of view as I would call it, interesting, after all it is one of the biggest social network in the planet. I agree that many of the people who interact in these exchanges in Face Book are not as well versed as those who dedicate serious time to this topic and go to many the common revisionism forums or blogs sites out there, but i would say that the more this topic- revisionism- is being discus the less probable it would be to censor it. Mark Zuckerberg has decided not to censor this topic, which i think it is a real victory for free exchange of ideas , I do not wish , furtherglory , to turn denial into a religion, do you?

    Comment by sonico — August 22, 2011 @ 12:03 pm

    • No, I do not wish to turn denial into a religion. I think that Facebook will eventually change its policy and not allow Holocaust denial on Facebook under the excuse that denial is “incitement to hatred.” The Holocaustians will continue to put pressure on Facebook executives to forbid Holocaust denial pages. The official history of the Holocaust is the only thing that should be allowed, according to the Holocaustians.Their belief is that Holocaust denial is “incorrect history” and that the deniers are “ignorant fools.” The Holocaustians claim that there is a “mountain of evidence” that proves the Holocaust. They use the word evidence to include testimony and confessions. Testimony is not evidence.

      Has anyone noticed that the stories of Holocaust atrocities are getting worse? In my blog post today, I quoted a newspaper article which claimed that 70,000 Jews were arrested following Kristallnacht. Both the Dachau Museum and the USHMM say that the number was 31,000. The newspaper article gave the impression that one man was lucky enough to be released. Actually, most of the 31,000 Jews who were arrested on Nov. 9th and 10th in 1938 were released a few weeks later.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 22, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

      • I agree with mostly of what you are saying, the other side has all the money and all the power but I still think that there is a bit of a triumph in having in daily life web places in the ineternet such face book, where Jews and gentiles sharing a space, exterminationist historians and revisionist have their personal pages and opinions…it is time for the holocaust to be an open topic and not something isolated in a few blogs and web pages, because this isolation will, in my opinion , make look more like a cult- not even a religion- than a real reflexion and serious analysis on this historical event …but that is my personal opinion, of course….

        Comment by sonico — August 23, 2011 @ 11:45 am

        • Facebook now has 750 million users and it will soon have one billion. How many of these people are revisionists? How many of these users can even understand what the revisionists are trying to tell them. The revisionists don’t have a chance against the 750 million users who are mostly Holocaust believers. The Holocaust will never be an open topic, especially not when it is against the law in 16 countries — and soon to be against the law in every country in the world. The revisionists cannot reach ordinary people who have been taught the exterminationist version of history since they were in the 5th grade.

          Comment by furtherglory — August 23, 2011 @ 1:26 pm

          • I know the figures are overwhelming, but as far “The revisionists cannot reach ordinary people who have been taught the exterminationist version of history since they were in the 5th grade”… don’t know about that …. I was a believer…

            Comment by sonico — August 23, 2011 @ 2:17 pm

  6. ITHINK THAT PUTTING ONES VIEWS ON FACEBOOK IS MERELY ANOTHER FORUM FOR DISCUSSION AND NO MATTER WHAT ! ONES VIEWS ARE ,EVERYONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO AIR THEIR VIEWS.BE IT REVISIONISM OR IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED ,WE ALL HAVE VIEWS SO STATE THEM ,I BELIEVE IN PLAYING THE BALL NOT THE MAN !! SO NO HATE SPEECH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE .

    Comment by Robert Schmidt — August 21, 2011 @ 12:03 am

  7. You’re simply falling for Chosen One propaganda which attempts to perpetuate their version events and maintain prominence and most of all cashflow in a time where more and more educated people enter holoco$t agnosticism. Put another way, the usual enemies of free speech are in a push for more money. I’m sure the lawsuit v. Facebook is already in motion.

    Comment by schlageter — August 20, 2011 @ 5:30 pm


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