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December 28, 2011

Does Holocaust education teach hatred of the German people?

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 7:17 am

In the comment section of my blog, a follower gave a link to an article published today in The Telegraph, a British newspaper.  The headline of the article is “Stop teaching about the holocaust so that children see Germany in a better light, says Lord Baker.”  The article starts off with this statement: “British schools should no longer teach children about the Nazis because it makes them think less favourably of modern Germany, the architect of the National Curriculum has claimed.” 

Amen to that!

I have said the same thing several times myself in my blog posts.  I have particularly criticized the British for taking young students on a one-day trip to Auschwitz to be indoctrinated.  Visitors cannot tour Auschwitz on their own now; I wrote about this here.

It was the British who originated the concept of concentration camps.  Is that taught in British schools?  I doubt it.

Pat Buchanan’s book Churchill, Hitler, and “The Unnecessary War”: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World should be required reading for every British student.

This quote is from the article in The Telegraph:

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, he said that schools should concentrate on teaching “the story in our own country” rather than the events of the Second World War, including the Holocaust.

Lord Baker, who introduced the National Curriculum in the 1980s, said: “I would ban the study of Nazism from the history curriculum totally.

“It’s one of the most popular courses because it’s easily taught and I don’t really think that it does anything to learn more about Hitler and Nazism and the Holocaust.

“It doesn’t really make us favourably disposed to Germany for a start, present-day Germany.”

In another comment on my blog, many months ago, an American professor of history wrote this:  “Saying that Holocaust courses in the US teach students to hate Germans is nonsense. I teach Holocaust and German history courses in the US that certainly do not do that.”

In the same comment, the history professor wrote that prisoners were burned alive at Ohrdruf, a sub-camp of Buchenwald, and that prisoners were marched out of the concentration camps near the end of the war for the purpose of killing them so that they would not be witnesses to the atrocities committed in the camps.  What do students, who are taught this version of history, think about the German people?  How can young Americans not hate the German people, after this kind of indoctrination?

Five states in the USA now mandate Holocaust education in public schools.  Does this conflict with our Constitution which mandates the separation of church and state?  I think it does, since the Holocaust has now become a world wide religion.  America has a United States Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC although the Holocaust didn’t happen here and is not a part of American history.

Another blogger has written about the subject of the Jews promoting the hatred of the German people here.

Do British schools teach anything about the German “expellees?”  I first heard about the millions of ethnic Germans who were expelled after World War II when I read a Letter to the Editor in a local newspaper about 15 years ago. Maybe there should be a new law that this must be taught in American schools.


  1. To add further, as a nation the Germans were undoubtedly very creative in their better times and there were some good thinkers amongst them. But when you probe the reality of the social fabric it reveals brutality. Even Beethoven had music beaten into him by his father and by all accounts drove his nephew Karl to a suicide attempt. What does that tell you?

    Comment by Daria — August 12, 2014 @ 5:23 pm

  2. All races have their good and bad points but for the moment I hate Germans because my mother was German LOL 🙂 and if you delve into the history of German childrearing it explains just about all of her behaviour . I found her the cruelest, nastiest, coldest, most depressive, destructive, emotionally unsupportive person with impossible expectations, total lack of understanding of a child’s needs, total lack of imagination, and a tendency towards seeing motherhood as a job which one literally needed a rulebook to follow – and her sister is not much better. Since they both see themselves as good Germans, I think it’s safe to assume these character traits are abundantly present throughout the whole race.

    Comment by Daria — August 12, 2014 @ 5:15 pm

    • No one could steer me right, but mama tried, mama tried, mama tried.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 13, 2014 @ 8:09 am

  3. I think that children need to be taught about the Holocaust. With that said, I think it needs to be established that the Germany of the 30s and 40s along with it’s people, are different than today. Children need to be taught that the ordinary German of the 30s and 40s was brainwashed. Children also should be taught about the other genocides of history. Such as the Yugoslav genocide inflicted on ethnic Germans from 1944 to 1948 and so on. Children ought to be taught well roundedly taught in History class

    Comment by Stefan James Buckley — June 11, 2014 @ 4:38 pm

    • I was not aware of suffering of the ethnic Germans in Yuogoslavia. I had to look it up. I found this website, which has a good article about it:

      Read this article to the end. I learned a lot from it.

      For those who don’t want to read the whole article to the end, here is what you are missing:
      Begin quote
      Multicultural Yugoslavia, in both its first and second incarnations, was above all the creation of, respectively, the French, British and American leaders who crafted the Versailles settlement of 1919, and the British, Soviet Russian and American leaders who met at Yalta and Potsdam in 1945. The political figures who created Yugoslavia did not represent the nations in the region, and understood little of the self-perceptions or ethnic-cultural affinities of the region’s various peoples.

      Although the deaths, suffering and dispossession of the ethnic Germans of the Balkans during and after World War II are well documented by both German authorities and independent scholars, they continue to be largely ignored in the major media of the United States and Europe. Why? One could speculate that if those German losses were more widely discussed and better known, they would likely stimulate an alternative perspective on World War II, and indeed of 20th century history. A greater and more widespread awareness of German civilian losses during and after World War II might well encourage a deeper discussion of the dynamics of contemporary societies. This, in turn, could significantly affect the self-perception of millions of people, forcing many to discard ideas and myths that have fashionably prevailed for more than half a century. An open debate about the causes and consequences of World War II would also tarnish the reputations of many scholars and opinion makers in the United States and Europe. Arguably, a greater awareness of the sufferings of German civilians during and after World War II, and the implications of that, could fundamentally change the policies of the United States and other major powers.
      End quote

      Comment by furtherglory — June 11, 2014 @ 5:01 pm

  4. This is outrageously stupid and retarded to even approach the idea that history should be taught like monoliths of bad and wrong judged with today’s values and that the planned and industrialized destruction of parts of humanity concerns only a time, place or culture. It is universal and concerns all humans forever as part of their history. I’ve read a lot of your blog tonight and I can promise you only one certitude after reading this last article: You are a true moron!! There is no more further glory in your delusional thinking but just moronic falsely advanced idiotic simple & wrong ideas and logics that you just use to prove I wonder which nauseous political agenda. You are despicable, nauseously bad smelling stupid and simple. Just shut up!! You are way too stupid and much too heartless to even speak in public. Heartless fanatics thinking in processes and bits like you did those horrors. We did not dream them in Europe. They happened everywhere. so shut up. Don’t be such a nazi lover or imagine one second your family in the hands of such debilitated monsters. Go cry on ‘your’ deads instead. Thanks. And no, not only jews suffered, since you seem obsessed by them.

    Comment by Jacques — January 25, 2012 @ 11:30 pm

  5. On November 24, 1947, the Auschwitz trial began in Kraków , when the Poland’s Supreme National Tribunal tried 41 former staff of the Auschwitz concentration camps complex. The trials ended on December 22, 1947, with 23 death sentences issued, as well as 16 imprisonments ranging from life sentence to 3 years.

    Comment by las artes — January 9, 2012 @ 11:13 am

  6. “I’m teaching a whole generation to hate millions of Germans.”

    – Edgar “megabucks” Bronfman, president of WJC

    Comment by Black Rabbit — December 29, 2011 @ 9:40 pm

  7. Germans do not have a monopoly on cruelty and the so called allies had no monopoly in being saints.
    To slander the Germans, the most productive and ingenious people the world has ever seen, is counterproductive for all white people.

    Comment by Hans Schneider — December 29, 2011 @ 3:37 pm

  8. Slovenia is graveyard. They keep finding mine shafts stuffed with the dead and mass graves in the forests. Slovenians were forbidden to discuss the partisan reprisals until 1992. Like historian David Irving, Nickolai Tolstoy lost a libel suit in 1989 in a London court to Lord Adlington whom he accused of war crimes. The judgement which bankrupted Tolstoy was overturned in the European Court of Human Rights seven years later. The British are cunning and merciless.

    The Exposed Secret: The Story of forced repatriation of Slovenes After World War II By Dave Zupan

    Click to access slovene.pdf

    Bleiburg massacre:

    “The Bleiburg massacre, which also encompasses Operation Keelhaul is a term encompassing events that took place during mid-May 1945 near the Carinthian town of Bleiburg, itself some four kilometres from the Austrian-Slovenian (then German-Yugoslav) border.
    Shortly after midnight on 13 May 1945, the British 5th Corps Headquarters in Austria estimated that there were “approximately 30,000 POWs, surrendered personnel, and refugees in Corps area. A further 60,000 reported moving north to Austria from Yugoslavia”. The retreating columns had fled to southern Austria ahead of the advance of the victorious Yugoslav Partisans (Yugoslav Army), hoping to surrender to the British Army. The British refused to accept the Axis surrender and directed them to surrender to the Yugoslav forces. Most of the captured military personnel in the columns were subjected to forced marches over long distances.”

    [and executed along with refugee women and children!].

    …”This third school bases its estimates on archeological evidence mostly consisting of mass graves found in Slovenia. Investigations were completed in October 2009. The total number of potential mass grave locations that the Slovenian Commission on Concealed Mass Graves now intends to investigate is around 581. According to Milko Mikola in his contribution to the document on “Crimes committed by totalitarian regimes” published by the Slovenian Presidency of the Council of the European Union in April 2008, the victims were executed without a trial.”

    Comment by who+dares+wings — December 28, 2011 @ 10:31 am

  9. As a young Germanic youth with a very Germanic name (Heinz) growing up in the 50-60’s, I can attest first hand that hatred of Germans is indeed a direct result of Holocaust ‘education’ (i.e., Holohoax dogma). I’ll save the details but be assured, it was very real and, I believe, has only grown worse.

    Comment by Heinz Bartesch — December 28, 2011 @ 10:24 am

    • I’m 95% German and I was occasionally taunted in Junior High because of my Donauschwaben heritage. This was in the 2000s

      Comment by Stefan James Buckley — June 11, 2014 @ 4:41 pm

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