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January 25, 2012

More Holocaust education needed: one in five young Germans has never heard of Auschwitz

Filed under: Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 11:20 am

Today, the British newspaper Mail Online is reporting this startling news:

ONE-FIFTH of young Germans have never heard of Auschwitz, survey reveals

Does this mean one-fifth of young “ethnic Germans” (Volksdeutsche) have never heard of Auschwitz, or does it mean one-fifth of all young citizens of Germany have never heard of Auschwitz?

It is hard for me to believe that anyone in Germany has never heard of Auschwitz  — unless they are recent immigrants from Africa or the Middle East.  Did the people asking the survey question pronounce the word Auschwitz correctly? If the surveyers used the British or the American pronunciation of the word, the ethnic Germans might not have known what they were talking about.

According to the article in the Mail Online, “Twenty one per cent of people aged between 18 and 30 quizzed about the most notorious Nazi extermination camp had not heard of it, the survey revealed.”   How was the question posed:  Did the survey people ask “What was the most notorious Nazi extermination camp?”

This quote is from the article:

The Nazis built six extermination camps – Auschwitz, Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and Majdanek – all of them in occupied Poland.The murder of prisoners, most of them Jewish, began in 1941 when Nazi officials enacted Hitler’s ‘Final Solution of the Jewish Question’.

The “Final Solution of the Jewish Question” was enacted in 1941?  Does that mean “enacted into law?”  NO, NO, NO! There was no German law in which the murder of the Jews was ordered. The murder of the Jews did, in fact, begin in 1941, but the Wannsee conference where the “Final Solution of the Jewish Question” was discussed did not begin until January 20, 1942.  So the murder of the Jews was not ordered at the Wannsee conference.

Auschwitz was not in occupied Poland when the camp was in operation, as stated in the Mail Online article.  It was in the Greater German Reich.  So was Chelmno.

Chelmno was located in the Warthegau, a district in the part of Poland that had been annexed into the Greater German Reich after the joint conquest of Poland by Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939.

This quote is also from the article in the Mail Online:

The survey, published in Stern magazine, showed that of people over 30, 95 per cent had heard of Auschwitz and the crimes committed there.

But less than 70 per cent could name the country it lies in.

Auschwitz is in Silesia which was also annexed into the Greater German Reich in 1939.  Silesia was given to Poland after World War I, in the Treaty of Versailles.  After the conquest of Poland in 1939, Germany took back Silesia.  Maybe 70 per cent of the Germans who were surveyed do not believe that Silesia should belong to Poland.  Or maybe they were answering the question with the name of the country that Auschwitz was in when the camp was in operation.

I’m guessing that the reason the survey found that one out of five young Germans had never heard of Auschwitz is because one out of five Germans are afraid to speak about the Holocaust, for fear that they will get a notice in the mail that they have to pay a fine for breaking the German law against Holocaust denial.  It has been my experience, in visiting Germany many times, that Germans of all ages are afraid to speak about the Holocaust.

I think that this survey might have been flawed by the survey takers not asking the questions in the right way.

I have found that, when talking to German people, one must be very precise.  For example, if you ask for a ticket to Frankfurt, you will hear “Which one?”  Don’t go to Berlin unless you know how to pronounce the name of the city.  If you want to go to Rothenburg, you must specify Rothenburg ob der Tauber.  There are special places in Germany where Americans, who can’t pronounce Dachau correctly, can buy their tickets without being frowned upon for not knowing how to speak properly.

15 Comments

  1. The “hasbara” troll can enjoy his freedom of speech. The more he will post his idiotic comments, the better we know, how ridiculous they are.
    Go ahead, Alan. Keep posting,
    Nächst..
    Also spricht der Narr: ‘der Umgang mit Menschen verdirbt den Charakter, sonderlich wenn man keinen hat

    Comment by Gasan — January 25, 2012 @ 8:47 pm

    • what does this mean?

      Comment by Alan — January 25, 2012 @ 10:28 pm

  2. You know what’s so terrific about America is that there’s a tax subsidized Holocaust museum, studies center, society or memorial of some kind with a educational outreach program in almost every state in the union despite the fact nobody from this country died in the Holocaust. Nobody from Alaska died in it yet you can learn all about the Shoah there: http://alaskaworldaffairs.org/WilliamMeinecke/tabid/2359/Default.aspx
    I can’t imagine 1/5 of American young people never hearing about Auschwitz, especially since we have two Holocaust remembrance days in our great country. One of them is on January 27th and the other is on or about April 19th. It’s a little late to get everyone in the Scrapbookpages blog community tan Elie Wiesel Temporary Holo-Tat™ to sport on Jan. 27th this year, but maybe next yea,r or they can plan ahead for April. Anyone who wants one can send me $2 and a SASE anytime and I’ll shoot them back number A7713. “Never Forgive! Never Forget!” I know I’ll be I’ll be wearing mine the day after tomorrow. Will you be wearing yours?

    Comment by who+dares+wings — January 25, 2012 @ 7:52 pm

    • Great point W+D+W, people in Alaska might one day soon have to make the choice to commit genocide or prevent it. They must also learn what man is capable of.

      Comment by Alan — January 25, 2012 @ 8:04 pm

  3. These probably weren’t Germans, just the non-white invaders Jews bring in to replace them.

    Comment by Holocaust Denier — January 25, 2012 @ 7:52 pm

    • I think you are correct. Germany is not Germany any more. It is a multi-cultural country just like America. When you walk down the street in Berlin or Munich, it is just like being in an American city. Germar Rudolf has estimated that the German ethnic group will be completely wiped out by the year 2050 — in Germany. I believe that there might still be a few Germans left in Missouri or Minnesota in 2050.

      Comment by furtherglory — January 26, 2012 @ 7:48 am

  4. It was jet fuel from those planes, you know…
    The commandant of Treblinka dated an Arab woman and Saddam, Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez are his grandchildren. They grew up being “nahtzees”.

    Comment by Gasan — January 25, 2012 @ 5:28 pm

  5. why hasn’t the “Jewish world consistency” tattooed the location of Auschwitz on the hearts and minds of every German…? Hmmmm maybe because there isn’t one…? You say ” Germans of all ages are afraid to speak about the Holocaust.” I wonder why? Not because the companies that employed slave labour will have to pay, but maybe because of the infinite shame they will live with because of their ancestors atrocities…next…

    hey when are you going to blog/debunk the BBC’s Treblinka mass grave evidence…. come on… this is my speciality…

    Comment by Alan — January 25, 2012 @ 1:21 pm

    • Please, can you first tell me how they killed them? How? By steam, vacuum, electricity, quicklime, chlorine, Zyklon B, diesel or finally by gasoline fumes?

      Can you show me some gas chamber which they used? Show me plan, replica, something.

      Comment by Bob — January 25, 2012 @ 3:58 pm

    • Heath

      Diesel or petrol engines. Which were used at Treblinka?

      Comment by Black Rabbit — January 25, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

      • I’m not Alan Heath. I’m from Australia. (Happy Australia day by the way)

        You said, Please, can you first tell me how they killed them? How?”

        who do you actually mean? At Auschwitz? Hydrogen cyanide.

        At Treblinka, I believe an acquired, possibly captured Russian tank engine exhaust was used to suffocate, carbon monoxide perhaps being but only one element in the gassing process that killed the victims. I’m not familiar with the evidence, yet, to say if diesel or petrol engines were used.

        I’ve read accounts from various sources, that the Nazis also experimented with explosives as a way to kill large numbers of people.

        Of course we don’t have the plans of the Gas Chambers, but the literature and trial records have corroborated evidence from eye witness testimony to build a very clear plan of how they would have looked and operated. This is not a matter of debate.

        Comment by Alan — January 25, 2012 @ 7:59 pm

        • No, in Treblinka, not Auschwitz, you spoke about Treblinka, me too.

          So you don´t know what murder weapon was used in Treblinka, you only believe in some and don´t know why, interesting, very interesting.

          Yes, in Nuremberg, Jackson spoke about some atomic bomb which was used to vanish 20,000 Jews, one of the most ridiculous accusation.

          IMT, v. XVI, p. 529
          http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/06-21-46.asp So you believe in extermination by bombs?

          No plans? Sorry, It looks like a lie from you, what is this?
          http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwitz/k2-thumbnails.html

          So where is plan to see how they looked and operated? This should be easy to show, can you show it? Will you be able to explain me how these magic chambers were able to gas peoples? You should be, you believe in it.

          Of course this is matter of debate, gas chambers allegedly killed over 3 millions peoples, so is normal that I want to see it. After that i will ask you to explain me how was possible to gas peoples in them.

          This should be no problem for you Alan, as I see from your comments, you sound like man of experience who believe in this.

          Comment by Bob — January 26, 2012 @ 4:08 am

          • If I don’t have the info or if the plans are incomplete, this is not a lie…. try again. you said Treblinka, not Auschwitz, then you put up Auschwitz plans (which were declassified version of the real death factory)…why?

            The “murder weapon”, as you put it, was the engine….with exhaust fumes interfering with oxygen transport and oxidative phosphorylation in the electron transport chain, basic chemistry. 100% FACT…. try again

            This is silly, I thought this was more academic/professional, rather than a semantics slinging match……come on please do better than this, I take the effort to read your post, at least turn on your brain in your answers…NEXT…

            Comment by Alan — January 26, 2012 @ 12:08 pm

            • No, you began with Treblinka so I asked about Treblinka killing method.

              Then i asked about chambers generally, not specifically about Treblinka. But never mind, so you want to tell me that you have no plans or replica or description of operation of gas chambers which allegedly killed 870,000 peoples? Fascinating Alan.

              Tell me more about “declassified version”, what this mean in connection with plans of Auschwitz?

              Which engine? Petrol or diesel? And why you choose engine, why you dismissed witnesses and reports of steam chambers, vacuum chambers, quicklime wagons, Zyklon B, chlorine, electricity? Tell me Alan, why?

              Calm down Alan, what semantic? I want to see murder weapon, where is problem? Show me.

              Comment by Bob — January 26, 2012 @ 1:39 pm

              • It could be possible that many German kids don’t know about their country’s mass murdering Holocaust past just as they might not know the name of their Chancellor or how to find their country on a map. This is made easier to understand because of the dishonesty of people like you, Bob, who do know but try to deny, diminish and dispute as much about the facts of the Holocaust as they can.

                Comment by joaquin — January 29, 2012 @ 11:09 am


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