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May 30, 2012

President Barack Obama needs a crash course in geography and the history of World War II

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 12:23 pm

Yesterday, during the ceremonies for the Presidential Medal of Freedom awards, President Barack Obama offended the Polish people by making a serious mistake when he said that Jews were killed in a “Polish death camp.”  This implies that it was the Polish people who were killing the Jews in death camps.

This quote is from a news article which you can read in full here:

Obama on Tuesday labeled the Nazi facility used to process Jews for extermination as a “Polish death camp.” The White House later said the president “misspoke” and expressed “regret”.

The linguistic faux pas overshadowed Obama’s posthumous award of the highest US civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, to Jan Karski, a former Polish underground officer who provided early eyewitness accounts of Nazi Germany’s genocide of European Jews.

Between 1939 and 1945, nearly six million Polish citizens perished under Nazi Germany’s brutal World War II occupation of their country.

More than half of Poland’s victims were of Jewish origin and they, in turn, accounted for half of the six million European Jews who perished during the Holocaust.

Many were killed in death camps set up by Nazi Germany in occupied Poland — including the most notorious, Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Oops!  Another mistake: Auschwitz-Birkenau was not in occupied Poland, also known as the General Government.  Auschwitz was in Silesia which had been annexed into the Greater German Reich in 1939.  The correct way to locate Auschwitz today would be to say that it was in “what is now Poland.”

You can read about the history of Auschwitz-Birkenau on my website here.

Here is a short history and geography lesson for President Barack Obama:

Map shows that Auschwitz and Chelmno were both in Greater Germany

On the map above, the dark brown area shows the “General Government,” which was the name for German-occupied Poland after Poland was defeated by the Germans in September 1939.  The dark orange section shows the portion of today’s Poland which was in the Greater German Reich during World War II.  The Greater German Reich is shown in the whole orange section, including the dark orange part.  The six “extermination” camps were in what is now the country of Poland, shown in the area outlined in yellow.

The two maps below show Germany before World War I and after World War I.  The Germans blamed the Jews for the loss of World War I and they were mad as hell.  That is why they wanted the Jews out of Europe, among other reasons.

Map of Germany in 1871

On the map above, note the German province of Silesia, where Auschwitz-Birkenau was later located.

Map of Germany after the Treaty of Versailles

The map above shows what was left of Germany after a huge chunk of German territory was given to the new countries of Poland and Czechoslovakia after World War I. Notice how East Prussia was cut off from the rest of Germany by the Polish Corridor.  It was a dispute over the Polish Corridor, among other reasons, which led to World War II.


  1. Mr. Mehuman
    I could give you a rather lengthy narrative of historical events as taught in my Prussian History lessons which would lead nowhere, although I appreciate your comments. What you have to remember that over 12 Million ethnic Germans were thrown out 1945 by the Poles what they called (the Germans) their home over the centuries after the Potsdam agreement and to what I understand from my contacts the scores have not been settled yet. Only recently with the rotating EU Presidency the Czech Premier was so anxious that he almost wet his pants to introduce a Bill in the EU Parliament to ensure that the descendants of Sudeten Germans will never claim compensation for what they have lost. Anyone who believes that this problem will just be forgotten or will fade away is a fool. You just have to scratch under the surface and see the true feelings on this subject in Germany. It was during Chancellor Kohl’s term that the border between Poland and Germany was allegedly recognised. When asked about the legality, his answer was: “So lange ich Kanzler bin können die Polen ruhig innerhald der Grenzen schlafen”, The English announcement in the Media was, that Germany had recognized the borders. What he said it quite different,”as long as I am Chancellor the Poles can sleep at ease in their beds within their borders”! Just remember Germany never had a peace treaty, even the constitution was written by the Occupation Forces, although there was a seven member German team that had some input.
    Just read my Blog: Dachau KZ and you might have a better understanding of my train of thoughts as well as my up-bringing which was very much cosmopolitan.
    PS.: All those that lost their possessions mainly in the East are dead now, I have no claims.

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 13, 2012 @ 12:45 am

    • Mr Stolpman

      German who were evaquated by the Nazi authorities of the German Reich had no and have no any moral or legal rights to make any kind of claim. The most obvious reason for the to left their homes was fear of the Soviet retailation for atrocities and barbaric acts committed by the Wehrmacht and SS in the USSR. Germans are not victims and never were. They were perpetrators of the most inhuman cruelties in the history of the civilization. Tour constitution was dictated by Americans to prevent you from turning into wrong direction as you did in 1918 and 1939. You should be grateful that Germany had not been changed into divided agricultural country – as the French proposed. I just want to remind you that according to one of their proposals there should be Polish-French border established at Łaba (Elbe). Thankfully the contemporary Germany are one of the pillars of the European Union and a peacefull nation of pacifists. To all of that – the European Union and incredible transformation of militaristic and schovinist nation into a nation of pacifist – we should be all gratefull!!!

      BTW Poland and Germany have now the best biliteral relations ever, we have similar attituted towards Europe and its future, so I think it;s quite fortunate, don’t you think?

      Comment by Mehuman — June 13, 2012 @ 8:26 am

  2. The Polish Corridor?! Are you insanse?! This was no any sort of the so-called Polish Corridor but the Greater Poland and Pomerania regions of Poland – the centers of the Polish statehood. And the reason for the II world war was the racist policies of hatred which consumed the German nation. Not any so-called Polish Corridor.

    Comment by Mehuman — June 6, 2012 @ 2:50 pm

    • Read about it on Wikipedia at

      Comment by furtherglory — June 6, 2012 @ 3:50 pm

      • I don’t know whether you aware or not – but the term “Polish corridor” is the result of the III Reich propaganda. Yep, it was created by people working for Joseph Goebels.

        Wikipedia is not always the best source of knowledge;).

        Comment by Mehuman — June 9, 2012 @ 4:57 am

    • Mr. MEHUMAN
      65 years ago, on 8 May 1945, ended in Europe with the surrender (“submission”) of Germany, World War II, the total estimated 60 million people fell victim. If you wonder how it came to the Second World War, you have to deal with the history in detail.The German Reich had numerous cede territory, particularly in favor of Poland. In the west, Alsace-Lorraine was re-annexed to France, the Saar was first the newly formed “League of Nations” implies also the “free city” of Danzig. West Prussia, Posen, Silesia and parts (including the precious Upper Silesian industrial area) were Polish. The newly created “Polish Corridor” stated East Prussia from the German heartland. Historically, the affected areas may not be unique “German” are still viewed as a unique “Polish”, since for centuries, both German-and Polish-born people were at home. The Polish state had in its history it extremely difficult to assert his independence. As part of the “Polish divisions” in the years 1772, 1793 and 1795, the Polish borders were moved several times at random, 1795-1914 was the national territory even completely between Prussia, Russia and Austria divided.
      My ancestors had their land and possessions there and I grew up next to it and thrown out close to the border, I have no love for the Poles or Poland

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 7, 2012 @ 2:34 am

      • Mr Stolpman,

        I can only encourage you to study history of Poland more diligently. All territories you mentioned were conquered or annexed by the Prussian Kingdom, which became the center of the German Empire. All these annexations were the outcome of aggressive policies of Prussia and the German Empire. The so-called Polish Corridor is Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) and the Easter Pomerania (Pomorze Wschodnie) with capitals in Poznań (Germans labeled it “Posen”) and in Gdańsk (respecitvely Danzig in German). Both territories were the core of the Polish state since 10th Century – please study that period of European history.
        After the annexation of foreign territories- both Alsace and the parts of the Polish-Lithuanian Commnowealth (I also encourage you to read about it a bit more, especially about our great victories over the Teutonic Order, Russia, Turkey and Sweden:, Prussian and next the German Imperial authorities ran policies of germanization and colonization of these non-German lands. After the fall of the German Empire and its loss in the I World War the territories you mentioned were just regained by its rightful owners – France and Poland. That’s all. Germany never had any rights to these lands.
        I am not asking you to love Poland or the Polish people. I must admit that I would find it strange if you would want me to love the US or the American people (or Israel and the Israelis, or Romania and Romanians or Andora and Andorians). In the end “love” is such a strong word;). I just would like to believe that you can develop non-biased attitude towards the nation which also suffered from the Nazi Germany, which produced heroes of the American Revolution, such as generals Pulaski and Kosciuszko, or great musicians like Chopin and Rubinstein (yes, he was a Polish Jew from Lodz).

        Comment by Mehuman — June 9, 2012 @ 4:53 am

        • Mr.Mehuman
          I will take your advice, yet I can hardly forget despite 60 years of happiness in my adopted country that my ancestral lands where Pomersania and that one of my forbearer’s Gerhard Stolpmann was a Crusader Bishop and Teutonic Knight 1417-1427. If he did take part when they were defeated at Tannenberg by Polish Tribes, we do not know. I have long ago forgiven those that took away what was rightfully ours, the rest is history.
          PS.: One of my sons married a Polish-American girl and we all love her! He could not have had a better partner

          Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 11, 2012 @ 5:16 am

          • Mr Stolpman,

            You are really in a need of education. You might find it interesting that the land which you so litgtly called “yours” was not ever trully yours. The Teutonic Order was invited to the northern part of the Duchy of Mazovia – one of the Polish principialities during the period of Poland’s medieval fragmentation by duke Konrad of Mazovia from the Polish Piast dynasty. He brought the Teutons as mercenaries to fight with the pagan tribes of Prussia. Previously the Teutons were expelled by the Hungarian King for a revolt against the Hungarian crown and the attempt of establishing their own state in the Kingdom of Hungary. The Teutons after arriving to Poland forged a papal act allegedly granting them all the conquered land in Prussia and additionally a part of Duke Konrad’s duchy. So as you can see there is a grand lie as the establishing act of the State of Teutons in Prussia. In the following years pagan Prussia was conquered by Teutons who enslaved them and ran a slow but efficient policy of eradiction, which in addition with heavy German colonization of the land ended up in the extinction of the original Prussian language and the people who spoke it (just for information – Prussians were members of the same ethnic group as contemporary Lithuanians and Latvians). More or less in the same period the Kingdom of Poland was reunited by the king Władysław Łokietek (Ladislav the Elbow-High). The act of the royal coronation in the Cracow Cathedral in 1320 finalized the process. However, several years before in 1308 the Teutons invaded and conquered a part of the Polish Kingdom – the Pomerania with Gdańsk (Danzig). The first thing they had done in Gdańsk was the massacre of the original Polish inhabitants. They were replaced by German colonists brought there from the ethnic Germany. So just imagine my surprise when you wrote me back and so proudly declared the land of Pomerania yours.

            The battle of Grunwald (or Tannenberg as it is being called by the German historiography) where the spine of the Teutonic Order was shattered once and for all in 1410 by the allied Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was a grand victory of the two states which soon were unified into the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. So as you can see the Teutons were crushed not by – as you wrote – some mysterious Polish tribes – but by one of the leading powers of the medieval Europe – the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.

            So what exactly was yours there in Pomerania of Prussia? Land which was taken from the rightful owners? And what was the purpose for crusaders fighting with the Christian Kingdom of Poland? Your predecessors may have taken part in the destruction of the native Prussians and their culture? What would be the contemporary judgment over that event? And what about the stealing of Pomerania from the Polish king? Hmmm….yeah, I can’t wait to read your answer:D There is no space here for forgiving us – the Poles who has taken something from you, we just took it back.

            P.S Say hello to your daughter-in-law. She comes from a good and strong nation;).

            Comment by Mehuman — June 12, 2012 @ 1:52 pm

  3. I hardly believe President Obama’s comment was out of line. Auschwitz is now located in Poland and given the territorial upheaval of Eastern Europe, it would take a long, pedantic description to satisfy those who complained. Yes, the German Nazis murdered the Jews in Auschwitz. But, separate to this specific issue, Poles were either guilty or complicit in the murder or Poland’s Jewish population. Antisemitism is deep-seated in the Polish culture. I, by the way, had a grandfather whose Polish family immigrated to the U.S. in 1895. Although they were Catholic, there may have been Jewish blood in the family, which they denied vehemently. In the family, the country of origin was variously described as Prussia, Poland and Bohemia, the latter being the only inaccuracy.

    Comment by Susan — June 2, 2012 @ 8:19 am

    • Anti-goyyimism is more than deep-rooted in Judaism, it’s the foundation stone of Judaism.

      Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — June 2, 2012 @ 3:37 pm

      • Are you sure you have the spelling right and you meant Anti-goyism which comes from the Hebrew word “goy” meaning Gentile? Although English is not my first language, but I am bit confused as to what you are trying to convey.

        Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 2, 2012 @ 9:57 pm

    • Notice how Holocaust survivors who lived in the eastern part of Poland hardly mention September 1, 1939 as the beginning of their sufferings, but rather June 22, 1941.

      Comment by Eager for Answers — June 2, 2012 @ 5:46 pm

      • Obviously the Soviets did not pose the level of direct threat on a massive scale as the Nazis. After the Nazi invasion, Polish citizens had a green light to submit the Jewish population to terror, humiliation and slaughter. The Jedwabne and Radzilow horrors occurred during the German occupation.

        Comment by Susan — June 4, 2012 @ 11:51 am

    • Would the same speechwriter mention the Guantanamo death camp as being Cuban?

      You can bet his ancestors were some Lodz ghetto dwellers -who miraculously survived- and his words merely betray his irrational hate for all things Polish.

      Comment by Eager for Answers — June 2, 2012 @ 6:12 pm

    • Oh Susan, I am really enjoying the way you use term “Eastern Europe” – it must be a some sort of indistinguishable, mysterious land full of dark woods and bloodthirsty anti-Semites for you. You pose as an expert able to asses the Polish soul and the Polish culture as blamed with the genetic anti-Semitism which made Poles complicit in the murder of Poland’s Jewish population. It is an obvious slander and thus you are a slanderer. It is disturbing how easily you can label the whole nation, which was the first victim of the German blitzkrieg a complicit in the Holocaust. So, I can assume that you think that Americans committed genocide on the North American Indians, right?

      And about the Polish family you mentioned in your post which would not like to be associated with Jews – as shocking as it is for us now – then it was not anything strange, neither in Poland nor in any other European state to prevent being associated with Jews. Examples of mixed marriages between Christians and Jews in Europe were rare.

      May I ask you why Americans find it is so easy to insult Poland and Poles? What is the problem here? I mean in general – the Polish jokes, accusing as of guarding and running concentration camps while we were dying there? I don’t understand the mechanism behind that phenomena! This is a behavior of bully who thinks that the victim is weak and will not fight back. Well, just for you information, against the all odds we managed to regained independence twice in the 20th Century (in 1918 from Germany, Russia and Austria-Hungary and in 1989 from the USSR), we transformed our economy from real socialism to the market economy, rebuilt democracy and joined both – the NATO and the European Union, and we are not going to be bullied by slanderers of your sort, Susan;).

      And in the end, please explain me why president Roosevelt did nothing when Jan Karski, officer of the Polish Home Army, informed him in person about the German atrocities in occupied Poland and the progressing Holocaust taking place in our land? Any idea?

      Comment by Mehuman — June 12, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

      • Oh, Mehuman. I find it interesting that you publish a blog, then use it to attack people who have views that differ from yours–and you do so hiding behind a false identity. You still identify yourself with an accomplishment at Mizzou that happened, what, decades ago? Were I a psychologist, I would find this all fascinating, As it is, I find your posts strange. And I wonder about the roots of your antisemitism.

        I found your blog while searching for information related to a book I was reading at the time. I did not present myself as an expert but did comment about a few facts I knew. That you call me a slanderer is amusing. You would have great difficulty proving that in a court of law; there is so much evidence that supports my contention. Strange that you feel the need to make this sort of claim.

        A few comments regarding your assertions:

        -Eastern Europe is a common term. Your description, which assumes my thoughts, is your own fantasy based on some truth.
        -Polish troops fought valiantly against the blitzkreig. However, the Polish Army was so outdated and small that it was bulldozed.
        -Anti-semitism is deeply rooted in the Polish culture. (To claim otherwise is a lie.) Am I saying all Poles are anti-semitic? Of course not.
        -As for the great victories of Poland in regaining its independence in 1918 and 1989, these victories were hardly accomplished by the Polish people alone.
        -Roosevelt and Churchill’s inaction when faced with proof of the holocaust is inexcusable.

        And yes, I do believe the American government committed genocide against the Native Americans.

        Comment by symorris — July 3, 2012 @ 8:30 am

  4. Polish Attitude towards Jews
    One does not have to talk to Holocaust Survivors, as far back in 1942 the Polish Underground newspaper “Narod” (“people”), a publication of Unia (“Unity’), a politically centrist, liberal, intellectual group, represented in the Polish Government-in-Exile, in London. On October 15, 1942, in the midst of the expulsion of Jews from Warsaw to Treblinka, this Underground publication printed a long article under the headline: “The Slaughter of the Jews’. This article was a critical survey of the relationship of the Polish Jews to Poland and the Poles. The Jews were blamed for their ingratitude of Poland’s hospitality to them for many generations. They were described as a nation that regarded itself as a “Chosen People” similar to Nazi Germany. The Jews were accused of infiltrating Polish society in the period between the two world wars and defiling it by “Judaization”. Furthermore, they were unfaithful to Poland when the Sowjet Union attacked in September 1939. In general, the Jews were charged with hating Poland. From this article it most definitely could be understood by the simple Pole that getting rid of a disloyal and hostile element is for the good of Poland. As this message was NOT published by an anti-Semitic party but by an intellectual liberal group, its view may definitely be seen as an expression of the true feelings toward the Jews by large segments of the Polish people.
    Does anyone really think Polish attitude has changed?
    PS.: I am not a Jew nor a Christian

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 1, 2012 @ 6:54 pm

    • Warsaw’s Jews were also conspiring with the invading Bolshevik army in 1920.

      Jews dominated the post-WW2 Soviet installed Polish government.

      And people wonder why the Poles do not fawn over the Jews

      You wrote>>>> “PS.: I am not a Jew nor a Christian”

      But you sure are hyper-philosemitic.

      Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — June 2, 2012 @ 3:45 pm

      • I once read a story stating they were 19 out of 22 ministers, not bad for a totally exterminated community.

        Would you have documents confirming this in your extraordinary archives?

        Comment by Eager for Answers — June 2, 2012 @ 5:29 pm

  5. I for one do not consider President Obama’s statement regarding Polish Death camps to be a reason to attack him. He misspoke. I am certain he is well aware that the NAZIS BUILT the camps in Poland. Regarding Poland and its involvement that would take volumes of analyses. I have not agreed with the President on certain positions he has taken, but to be fair he should be forgiven for this error. My parents were in Auschwitz and most of my family who were from Poland were murdered by the Nazis.

    Regarding Poland itself the parking lot of the municipal building in Wodislav Poland belongs to my family. When I visited Wodislav , I found my father’s birth certificate but was told the Mayor had appointments and could not see me. I guess he thought I wanted our property back. In Slomnicki, my mother’s town, all the Jewish records were missing and no one new where the synagogue was. I found the synagogue which was on the main road with the sign that read from here all were taken to the concentration camp.IF you want to know how the average NON-Jewish POLISH person felt about the JEWS and how the Jews were treated, just ask any Holocaust Polish Survivor. There were some righteous Gentiles, but very very few. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG

    Comment by Bernhard Rosenberg (@NeverFrgetRabbi) — June 1, 2012 @ 12:33 pm

    • I agree with you that President Obama simply misspoke ( most likely reading the text from teleprompter, w/o focusing on the text itself), BUT a person who wrote a speech for him is the different story. You will call that a mistake? or huge lck of knowledge? How would we Americans feel, if someone by mistake will call 9/11 : ” American……” Just b/c it happened on American land? I would be furious? Would you be not? The other major issues that many of us don’t see or purposely miscall: Nazi death camp, Nazi this, Nazi that… Why not German?
      Regarding your horrible experience w/mayor of polish town: did you schedule an appointment to see him in advance? or you just expected that he/she will see you just because???? If I would like to see any Mayor or government official in any town/city in the world< i will most definitely think to set up an appointment before I go visit. Unless you feel so special that you expect every door to be open wide and everybody waiting for you. I think that your major problem sets in that parking lot in Wodislav/Poland.

      Comment by maximilian — June 5, 2012 @ 2:20 pm

  6. I’m no supporter of President Obama, but I think he ought to be accorded some slack on this. I don’t for a minute believe that he believes Poles ran Auschwitz, but rather he was unhappily careless with the ambiguity that national adjectives like Polish often carry in English. That is, with “Polish death camp” he (or more likely, the speechwriter whose words were put on the teleprompter for him to read off) almost certainly meant ‘(S.S,) death camp located in Poland’ rather than ‘death camp under the auspices of the Polish state’.

    Comment by edmccorduck — June 1, 2012 @ 7:26 am

    • To his credit, Obama has taken responsibility for the error: “In referring to `a Polish death camp’ rather than `a Nazi death camp in German-occupied Poland,’ I inadvertently used a phrase that has caused many Poles anguish over the years and that Poland has rightly campaigned to eliminate from public discourse around the world” (

      Comment by edmccorduck — June 2, 2012 @ 3:56 am

  7. When I was in Krakow in January this year, I got into a long conversation with a group of Polish students who were all quite concerned that because Auschwitz was in Poland, the entire world believed it was the Poles who killed gassed millions of Jews there. I assured them that everybody in the West was well aware it was the Germans who had killed the Jews at Auschwitz. I can’t believe that it was the President of the United States of America who was the one to prove me wrong.

    Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — May 31, 2012 @ 7:19 am

    • Maybe this article by Debbie Schlussel will explain why the Poles are so worried that people in the West think the Poles killed Jews:

      Comment by furtherglory — May 31, 2012 @ 7:27 am

      • She just an adorable bucket of hatred isn’t she!

        * Gross-Rosen
        * Plaszow
        * Stutthof

        Were “major death camps” apparently.

        “Grandpa Isaac’s father was mayor of the town and owned a hardware store. He hid in the haystacks of a Pole who owed him money and had bought tools on credit, but my grandfather escaped and was ultimately rounded up to the camps, after he heard the Pole tell neighbors he was going to trade my grandfather to the Nazis for a bottle of whisky.”

        That’s a nice story. Believe it, or be a nazi who wants to kill all the Jews.

        Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — May 31, 2012 @ 10:35 am

      The town of Oswiecim(Auschwitz) in the Wojewodschaft (County) of Cracow at the confluence of the Vistula and Sola lay already on the 1st of September 1939 with the German attack on Poland and the start of the second world war under the bombardment of the German air force. On the 4th September in 1939 the armed forces took the city. Auschwitz was annexed by the decision of the Boundary Commission of the Interior Ministry of Upper Silesia on the 26th of October 1939, as it was formerly a German linguistic territory prior to the Treaty of Versailles when Poland first became an independent state in October 1921, thus it was again integrated as part of Upper Silesia (Oberschlesien) and into the the Third Reich. The largest Nazi concentration and extermination camp was technically within Germany. Administratively it belonged to the district of Bielsko-Biala (Bielsko) in the newly formed Silesian Region of Katowice. However, Upper Silesia, Katowice, including that of East Upper Silesia during May1941 was divided by a police border
      (Polizei-Grenze). In this special zone the application of German Law was abrogated.

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — May 31, 2012 @ 9:03 pm

  8. I thought that he thought some nonsuch nonsense that his family liberated all the slave campers, you’ll find the ref in my Bomb Line malarky.

    So what do you expect from a mainline Maoist POTUS? He knows that history if fiction, he is a scribe. Now and again his mouth gets away from hisself and her handlers.

    Comment by thestoker — May 30, 2012 @ 2:00 pm

    • Obama’s first serious mistake in history and geography was when he said that his uncle was among the soldiers that liberated Auschwitz. It was his great-uncle on his mother’s side who was at Ohrdruf, a sub-camp of Buchenwald. He later made a mistake when he said that there was a gas chamber at Buchenwald.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 30, 2012 @ 2:12 pm

  9. Great post! Thank you for sharing!

    … following your blog …

    ~ Oh God, My Wife Is German.

    Comment by Oh God, My Wife Is German — May 30, 2012 @ 1:14 pm

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