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June 20, 2012

“Joe the Plumber” blames Nazi gun control laws for the deaths of Jews in the Holocaust

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 4:16 pm

“Joe the Plumber” is Samuel Wurzelbacher, the man who became famous during the 2008 presidential campaign when he questioned Barack Obama about his economic policies. He is currently running for Congress, as a Republican in Ohio. He is in the news because he blames Germany’s gun control laws for “the extermination of six million Jews and seven million others.”  (I thought it was five million others.)

This quote is from a video made by Joe the Plumber, as reported here by the Washington Post:

“In 1939, Germany established gun control,” he [Joe the Plumber] says. “From 1939 to 1945, six million Jews and seven million others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated,” he says before ending the video by saying “I love America.”

Gun control opponents have long held that Adolf Hitler was able to seize power in Germany in part because of controls on firearms.

Hitler “was able to seize power”?  I thought he was appointed Chancellor of Germany because he was the head of the political party that got the most votes in a democratic election.  Could the Jews have prevented his appointment if they had been able to carry guns in 1933?

According to Joe the Plumber, the Jews had uncontrolled access to guns in 1933; he claims that there was no gun control until 1939.

I googled gun control in Germany and found this information:

In 1919 and 1920, to stabilize the country and in part to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, the German Weimar government passed very strict gun ownership restrictions. Article 169 of the Treaty of Versailles stated, “Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless.”[1]

In 1919, the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that “all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately.”[2] Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years’ imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.

On August 7, 1920, the German government enacted a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.

So it was the Weimar government of Germany that passed gun control laws, not Nazi Germany, and it was long before 1939.

This quote, from Wikipedia, is the most important information on gun control in Germany:

In 1928, the German government enacted the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. This law explicitly revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.

The law that was passed in 1928 was superseded by a law passed in 1938, the year of Kristallnacht, when Jews were first sent to Dachau.  This quote from Wikipedia explains it:

The 1938 German Weapons Act

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to “…persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit.” Under the new law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition.”[4]

So in November 1938, the Jews had access to rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition.  They could have attacked the Nazis on the night of Kristallnacht and taken over the German government.  Why didn’t they?

The Jews, who were sent to Dachau and other Nazi camps in November 1938, were released after two weeks, but only on the condition that they leave Germany immediately.  A few of the Jews, who were arrested after Kristallnacht, remained in Dachau for as long as 3 years before they were released, as late as 1941, according to Theodor Haas, a Dachau survivor who was among the Jews taken into “protective custody” on November 9, 1938.  Those who remained at Dachau had been unable to find a country that would take them.

Haas had nightmares about the persecution he endured as a Jew in Nazi Germany. He survived the Holocaust only because he was released from Dachau in 1941, two years after World War II started, but before plans for the “Final Solution of the Jewish Question” were made on January 20, 1942 at the Wannsee Conference. In February 1942, deportation of the Jews to the death camps, in what is now Poland, began.

Below is an excerpt from an interview with Theodore Haas, conducted by Aaron Zelman, founder of the organization called “Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.” Haas was living in America and was a member of this organization at the time that he gave this interview several years ago.

Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, “If only
we were armed before, we would not be here now”?

A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power,
there was a black market in firearms, but the German people
had been so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would
never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people
really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools
we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government,
media, and some police groups in America are pushing for the
same mindset. In my opinion, the people of America had
better start asking and demanding answers to some hard
questions about firearms ownership, especially if the
government does not trust me to own firearms, why or how can
the people be expected to trust the government? There is no
doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been
saved if the people were not “brainwashed” about gun
ownership and had been well armed. Hitler’s thugs and goons
were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun haters
always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a
perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews
took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazis.

7 Comments

  1. Gun control laws and policy vary greatly around the world. Some countries, such as the United Kingdom, have very strict limits on gun possession while others, such as the United States, have relatively modest limits. In some countries, the topic remains a source of intense debate with proponents generally arguing the dangers of widespread gun ownership, and opponents generally arguing individual rights of self-protection as well as individual liberties in general..

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    Comment by Bryant Tenner — March 30, 2013 @ 3:05 am

  2. Yeah,
    That is exactly what we need: another Mr. Ignoramus in US Congress. Plus, I have no doubts, that this dude have no idea what Second Amendment is all about. He is a redneck, but if he were elected, he would support the restrictions, such us: ban on assault rifles, no high capacity magazines, etc. The same thing is going with NRA. Their executives, Chris Cox and Wayne La Pierre are positioning the organization as the “union of hunters and target-practicing shooters”.
    Of course, he does not know the history. I hope he will lose.

    Comment by Gasan — June 22, 2012 @ 10:22 pm

  3. Ho£ocaust facts from Joe the Plumber are on par with those from Barry the President.

    “The total number of people who died in concentration camps during the war period — excepting Jews and Gypsies — was about half a million, perhaps a little more.”
    – Yehuda Bauer

    The High Priests of Ho£ocaustianity, Yehuda Bauer, Peter Novick and Deborah Lipstadt, have all written about *the lie* of the 5,000,000 goy victims of the Nazis.
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/kosher-holocaust-denial-myth-of.html

    btw, I got back from my “death camp” holiday yesterday, I explored Neuengamme, Belsen, Sachsenhausen, Ravensbrueck, and the Wannsee Villa. Took over 800 photos, and that’s after I deleted the ones I knew I’d never use. I’ve only posted the Ravensbrueck ones so far, there’s a good one of a snake which scared the life out of me when I almost trod on it.
    http://ravensbrueck2012.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/memorial-sculpture.html

    Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — June 21, 2012 @ 6:41 pm

    • Excellent photos and write-up about Ravensbrueck. I noticed that the dates that the gas chamber was in operation are exactly the same as the dates of the typhus epidemic: December 1944 to April 1945. What a strange coincidence that the prisoners were not gassed until the typhus epidemic started.

      Could it be that the Gaskammer at Ravensbrueck was used to kill lice, not people?

      Comment by furtherglory — June 22, 2012 @ 7:26 am

    • But like many Holocaust historians, he didn’t want anything to do with a “Holocaust denier”

      😉

      Comment by Eager for Answers — June 22, 2012 @ 5:55 pm

      • THE PLANNED GAS CHAMBER “NEUE WÄSCHEREI” (NEW LAUNDRY)
        The “Neue Wäscherei” Just outside of the northern camp wall is the site of the todays memorial. Near the former “Revier” there is a building that was most probably erected to serve as gas chamber (with two rooms). It is the socalled “Neue Wäscherei”. The construction works started in October 1944 but were delayed, probably because of a lack of material. Because of the situation at the front in late January/early February 1945 the camp authorities had to find a temporary solution for gassing purposes. It is also possible that the prisoners who had to build the “Neue Wäscherei” gas chambers delayed the works intentionally so that this killing facility never went into operation. One can assume that the former Auschwitz commander, Rudolf Höß (in his capacity as chief of the WVHA office DI), together with his superior Oswald Pohl and camp commander Fritz Suhren; inspected the construction works between end of February and mid March 1945. This was witnessed by Walter Jahn who had been imprisoned in the men’s camp since 1941. As an electrician he had to install cables in the “Neue Wäscherei”, and testified against Pohl in Nürnberg. In addition he drew a sketch of the gas chambers for the court.
        There are also testimonies from usually reliable witnesses about the use of mobile gas chambers or the installation of a gas chamber in an adapted Dutch railway wagon that was parked in a pine wood behind the so called “Siemenslager”. However these statements are questioned by some researchers. It is notable that defendants of the Ravensbrück trials (altogether seven trials) freely mentioned a gas chamber in the “former barrack” but never mentioned another gas chamber (in the “Neue Wäscherei”)
        THE GAS CHAMBER IN THE BARRACK
        For the Gas Chamber Barrack no plans or remnants of the building are available. Therefore all facts about this real gas chamber of Ravensbrück are based on the testimonies from witnesses (SS men and former prisoners) who all agreed about the type and location of the gas chamber. This provides firm evidence to support the existence of the gas chamber. It was installed in the warehouse barrack of the Malerkommando (painter’s command) that was located directly beside the crematorium. The barrack was emptied and then sealed. The gas (Zyklon B) was poured into the gas chamber through an opening in the ceiling. Some witnesses stated that this has been done by prisoners but this can be doubted because the SS usually did it itself. According to witnesses one side of the gas chamber could be turned down to facilitate the removal of the corpses and the ventilation. Others talked about double doors. To hide the crime a two metre high fence was built around the barrack. A few metres away from the barrack a small shed was located. Here the victims had to undress before the SS drove them to the gas chamber. It is not clear if SS doctors were present at the gassings.
        In the night of the 23 April 1945 the barrack was blown up by the SS, according to some witnesses. Therefore no important traces remained after a few days when the camp was liberated by the Red Army. In contrary other witnesses stated that they still had seen the barrack shortly after the end of the war.
        We don’t know if the foundations of the barrack are still there: The site where the barrack was located, was converted into a DDR (East Germany) memorial after the war. It became a part of the graves field at the camp wall. An archaeological inspection to locate the exact site of the gas chamber would disrupt the today’s graves. A positive result would not be predictable anyway.
        PS.: Extract from my Blog Dachau KZ Blogspot.com, source: Der Ort des Terrors, page 473, Researcher: Annette Leo.

        Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 22, 2012 @ 6:43 pm


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