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August 20, 2012

The ex-post-facto law of “common design” lives on as the “Demjanjuk principle”

Filed under: Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 11:35 am

In today’s news, there is an article about a former Auschwitz guard who is still alive and is now in danger of being prosecuted under the concept of “common design,” an ex-post-facto legal principle that was made up by the Allies after World War II.  The Allies used the “common design” or “common plan” concept to convict anyone who had any connection whatsoever to a concentration camp.  The “common plan” principle was also used at the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal.

I previously blogged about the Demjanjuk case in which the “common plan” law was used.  I predicted that this principle would be used again to convict any German still alive who had any connection, however remote, with the Holocaust.  I also blogged here about the American Military Tribunal which had a 100% conviction rate, using the “common design” principle which has no defense.  Basically, under the “common design” principle, if you were there, you are guilty.  For example, the Commandant of the Buchenwald camp:  I blogged about his conviction here.

The following quote is from the news article about the 87-year-old man who will be the next victim who is brought into a German court on a stretcher to face charges of gassing people at Auschwitz because he was a guard at Auschwitz and he did nothing to stop the gassing.  His only defense will be to prove that he was not a guard at Auschwitz. Will the court have to prove that people were gassed at Auschwitz?  No, of course not.  That is “common knowledge” which does not have to be proved.

The Baden-Württemberg Zentrale Stelle for Nazi prosecutions said its investigation into the man was completed and had been handed to the public prosecutor in Weiden, Bavaria.

The man, who lives outside Germany, worked at the camp from at least April 1944, in closing off ramps leading to gas chambers, in guard duties around the camp, and in shifts on the watchtowers. This is enough to consider him having made a “causal contribution to the murderous crimes,” the Zentrale Stelle report concluded.

The public prosecutor confirmed it had received files which it would take several weeks to check.

Head of the Zentrale Stelle Kurt Schrimm said May’s conviction of Demjanjuk had been crucial to his continued work in putting together this prosecution case. “The verdict of Munich district court burst the dam,” he said.

Before that verdict courts had required proof of individuals personally taking part in a murder to convict them.

But since the conviction of Demjanjuk this is no longer the case. He was convicted of helping to murder at least 28,000 people at Sobibor death camp in Poland simply due to the fact he worked there as a guard.

When will this madness stop?  Never!  There will never be enough Revenge against the German people.  The German people have now been rehabilitated and they are participating in their own demise.

10 Comments

  1. While there are guilty perpetrators that contributed to the demise of the Jewish population during the period 1933-1945 this ‘madness’ as some people call it, should never stop. If they are guilty of participation they should be brought to trial. There are two types of Germans that come from WWII; those of the ordinary German soldier who fought for their country and those who participated in the death camps. Those participating in the death camps should all be brought to trial. Most German POW’s were worked to death, or executed, by Soviet armed forces. We are writing here from a hindsight point of view. Think about the 20million Russians that were killed during the period 1940-1945 and how you would feel about it? Think about the thousands of Russian POW’s that were executed the day before lberation or on the day of liberation and the sight the Russian soldiers saw as they liberated Auschwitz and witnessed their fallen comrades. Think about how you would feel under those circumstances. Give yourself the benefit of playing devil’s advocate on both sides of the argument.

    Comment by mogseyward — August 22, 2012 @ 1:43 am

  2. Surely then any member of the German armed forces in WW2 could be brought to trial as a war criminal as they are also guilty of ” common purpose”

    Comment by peter — August 20, 2012 @ 2:13 pm

    • There are not many German veterans of World War II left. They were killed off in Eisenhower’s death camps. 1.7 million German POWs never returned from the death camps and their families were not told what happened to them.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 20, 2012 @ 2:45 pm

      • Exactly, FG — one of the biggest & worst war crimes committed — ever!! It was a deliberate mass murder — nothing else!
        Eisenhower and his “crew” should all be prosecuted & hanged as the war criminals they all were.
        Thank you for another interesting and educating piece of history from the real & ugly zionist world we
        all are forced to live in today.

        Comment by April53 — August 21, 2012 @ 10:49 am

      • While I appreciate your blog and website scrapbookpages as an important source for revisionism, it does seem that this 1.7 million figure is greatly exaggerated.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses

        Comment by Question everything — August 28, 2012 @ 7:50 am

        • Thanks for the link. I have personally talked to a survivor of Eisenhower’s camps. He managed to escape from the camp with the help of an American soldier who took pity on him. I believe his eye-witness testimony that the German POWs were not given food or water and they had no shelter in the camp. He was able to return to his family in Germany, but the families of 1.7 million POWs reported that their sons never returned from Eisenhower’s camps.

          Comment by furtherglory — August 28, 2012 @ 10:48 am

          • It was your very well sourced and researched website scrapbookpages that actually FIRST made me consider revisionism (although it at the time seemed to take the stance that the Holocaust was real but things were not always so clear cut) some years ago and after watching onethirdoftheholocaust I went looking into it more and more. Do you have any sources for the 1.7 million figure? Thousands or tens of thousands sure, but 1.7 million seems a barely credible reverse Holocaust? Your blog I only discovered recently and I find it highly interesting.

            Comment by Question everything — August 28, 2012 @ 12:42 pm

            • The book Other Losses is the source of the 1.7 million figure. I don’t think that anyone has proved that the 1.7 million deaths is not true. As I mentioned before, I have talked with a survivor of one of the camps, who escaped before he died of thirst and starvation.

              Comment by furtherglory — August 28, 2012 @ 2:42 pm

              • It is not because there are Holocaust survivors claiming tens of thousands died at Auschwitz, which is true, that 6 million died. I just find this an interesting paragraph.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses#The_plausibility_of_Eisenhower_getting_away_with_such_atrocities

                Maybe excavation could also finally settle this atrocity claim.

                Comment by Question everything — August 29, 2012 @ 12:23 am

                • Thanks for the link. I copied this paragraph which I think is important:
                  Begin quote:
                  Several historians rebutting Bacque have argued that the missing POWs simply went home, that Red Cross food aid was sent to displaced civilians and that German POWs were fed the same rations that the U.S. Army was providing to the civilian population. U.S. and German sources estimate the number of German POWs who died in captivity at between 56,000 and 78,000, or about one percent of all German prisoners, which is roughly the same as the percentage of American POWs who died in German captivity.[89] This is contradicted by a report into missing POWs commissioned in the 1950s by the West German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer, which found that 1.5 million German prisoners known to be alive in allied prison camps never came home, nor were their deaths recorded.[citation needed] The book Other Losses alleged 1.5 million prisoners were missing and estimated that up to 500,000 of these were in Soviet camps. When the KGB opened its archives in the 1990s, 356,687 German soldiers and 93,900 civilians previously recorded as missing were found to be listed in the Bulanov report as dying in the Soviet camps.[citation needed]
                  End Quote

                  The former POW that I talked to, the one who escaped from a POW camp after the war, was scheduled to be sent to a Soviet camp. That’s why an American soldier took pity on him and helped him to escape. I think that the stories about Eisenhower’s death camps are true. I lived in Germany for two years in 1957 and 1958. During that time, I noticed that there were very few German men of military age in Germany. There were virtually none who were World War II veterans.

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 29, 2012 @ 6:53 am


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