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November 4, 2012

Nazis were counting on the disbelief of the implausible monstrosity of Auschwitz

Filed under: Buchenwald, Holocaust — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 6:37 am

In a telephone interview with John Przybys of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Elie Wiesel gives his explanation for how the Nazis got away with the mass murder of the Jews at Auschwitz: they knew that no one would stop it because no one would believe it.

This quote from Elie Wiesel is in the article written by John Przybys which you can read in full here:

…. ‘But the trouble, maybe, was, why should a normal reader in New York or Paris believe that people were like that, that people did what they did to other people, to other human beings? That they created a universe called Auschwitz, that 10,000 people (a day) would be killed? Why would they believe it?”

The almost implausible monstrosity of the event was “exactly what these killers were counting on,” Wiesel says. “By going too far, by embracing too much and daring to do things no other state has ever done, they felt the world won’t believe, so they are immune.” In “Night,” Wiesel writes that when their train stops at Auschwitz station, the deported Jews on board know nothing of the name’s meaning and assume it to be merely a work camp.

“What pains me is at the end of May 1944 (the date of Elie Wiesel’s arrival in Auschwitz), everyone knew the meaning of Auschwitz,” Wiesel says. “They knew it in Rome, they knew it in Washington, they knew it in Stockholm, they knew it in London. Everybody knew it, except we Jews from Hungary didn’t.”

What Elie Wiesel seems to be saying is that the whole world, except for the people in Hungary, knew that 10,000 people per day were being murdered at Auschwitz, yet no one did anything to stop it.  Why?  Because this was such “an implausible monstrosity of an event” that no one could believe it.

Elie Wiesel may have gotten the idea for the expression “an implausible monstrosity of an event” from Primo Levi, another prisoner at the Auschwitz III (Monowitz) camp.  A reader of my blog post wrote this in a comment:

“The Italian survivor Primo Levi recorded in his The Drowned and the Saved the following admonishment that the SS guard enjoyed to give to the prisoners.

“However this war may end, we have won the war against you; none of you will be left to bear witness, but even if someone were to survive, the world will not believe him. There will be perhaps suspicions, discussions, research by historians, but there will be no certainties, because we will destroy the evidence together with you. And even if some proof should remain and some of you survive, people will say the events you describe are too monstrous to be believed: they will say that they are exaggerations of Allied propaganda and will believe us, who will deny everything, and not you. We will be the ones to dictate the history of the Lagers.”

Robert Jan van Pelt, Expert Report
http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/defense/van/INT.2

“Almost four million other innocents were swallowed up by the extermination plants erected by the Nazis at Birkenau, two kilometres from Auschwitz.”

– Primo Levi

As it turned out, Elie Wiesel and his father were spared because they were selected to work, and when the three Auschwitz camps were abandoned, they were taken to Buchenwald. (Auschwitz was a combination “death camp,” labor camp, and transit camp.)

You can read more about Elie Wiesel at this website.  You can read about the identity of Elie Wiesel on this blog.  I previously blogged about Elie Wiesel and his tattoo number here.

13 Comments

  1. Do you mean to tell me in this day and age with all the information technology there still gullible goyim who still believe the holocau$t hoax ??????

    Comment by Holocaustien Feuer — November 8, 2012 @ 3:07 am

  2. After saying for decades the Allies knew nothing and discovered the awful ‘truth’ when the Nazi camps were liberated, the exterminationists claimed the Allies knew the Holocaust but didn’t care about it and wanted to concentrate their attacks on military targets (they had hundreds of tons of bombs to drop on the civilians of Dresden but they supposely hadn’t a few kilograms of bombs to drop on alleged industrial killing centers). Then they claimed the Allies knew it but were afraid to kill jewish inmates if Auschwitz had been bombed (what didn’t prevent them from bombing Auschwitz III (Monowitz) and its jewish workers 4 times in order to harm the Nazi war industries). Now Elie Wiesel claims “everybody knew it” but the Nazis were counting on the disbelief of the implausible monstronsity of Auschwitz (no monstronsity is implausible during wars; all war propaganda lies about the enemies are believed in).

    Were the Nazis stupid enough to think that the World would believe them even if they had left evidence behind them and witnesses alive? Would the “Evil antisemitic Nazis” consider exterminating the Jews “a monstruous thing” anyway? Wouldn’t the SS chosen for this task (probably the most fanatical antisemites ever) consider it a good and even necessary thing? Wouldn’t they see it as a kind of Holy mission for the good of future generations? Would these fanatical SS consider the death of 6 million jews more monstruous than the death of 15 millions Germans killed by the Allied and Soviet future winners?

    Why would the Nazis evacuate tens of thousands of Jews from Auschwitz and leave 8,000 Jews there behind them if they had wanted none to bear witness? How long would it have taken to shoot them all?

    And why did some Allied and Soviet journalists “report” the Holocaust during WW2 if they didn’t believe in it themselves (because it was too monstruous to be believed in)?

    Comment by hermod — November 7, 2012 @ 3:24 pm

  3. Primo Levi book. There is a first unknown edition of 1947, http://www.iltempoinsorte.it/parole_en.html that pulled a few thousand copies and that was not successful. He does not describe gas chambers there and even he claims to have heard of them only after the end of the war and only for Birkenau. And even in that fortunate book published by Einaudi in 1958 doesn’t appear descriptions. But in the 1976 edition, 30 years later, he finally remembers everything clearly so that it can describe more in the 26 added pages.

    Comment by mincuo — November 7, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

  4. And they actually want you to believe this BLATANT lying weasel .

    Comment by Robert Schmidt — November 6, 2012 @ 4:02 am

  5. Primo Levi is the source for Wiesel’s comments that the world wouldn’t believe the monstrosity of the Holocaust. Levi wrote that a German camp guard told him this. Wiesel is simply regurgitating this infamous literary conversation.

    Comment by who dares wings — November 4, 2012 @ 8:07 am

    • Thanks for pointing this out. I read one of Primo’s books but I don’t recall that he wrote that. Maybe it was in a different book. Since Elie was never in Auschwitz, he had to get his information from somewhere.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 4, 2012 @ 8:30 am

      • “The Italian survivor Primo Levi recorded in his The Drowned and the Saved the following admonishment that the SS guard enjoyed to give to the prisoners.

        “However this war may end, we have won the war against you; none of you will be left to bear witness, but even if someone were to survive, the world will not believe him. There will be perhaps suspicions, discussions, research by historians, but there will be no certainties, because we will destroy the evidence together with you. And even if some proof should remain and some of you survive, people will say the events you describe are too monstrous to be believed: they will say that they are exaggerations of Allied propaganda and will believe us, who will deny everything, and not you. We will be the ones to dictate the history of the Lagers.”

        Robert Jan van Pelt, Expert Report
        http://www.hdot.org/en/trial/defense/van/INT.2

        “Almost four million other innocents were swallowed up by the extermination plants erected by the Nazis at Birkenau, two kilometres from Auschwitz.”

        – Primo Levi

        Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — November 4, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

  6. Having been sent to Auschwitz, Martin Greenfield is one of a handful of boys who survived the brutal death camp.

    The Zyklon B fumes he barely escaped, significantly boosted his memory; he just remembered last week that, in the crowd of anonymous inmates, he happened to notice no one else than . . . Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel.

    Comment by Eager For Answers — November 4, 2012 @ 8:02 am

    • Thanks for the links. In the first link, I read this quote:

      Begin Quote:
      “When he was 14, he and his father, mother, two sisters and a brother were taken from their home in Pavlova, in what was then Czechoslovakia, and later delivered to Auschwitz.

      “He was assigned to wash clothes in the camp’s alteration shop, and one day he accidentally ripped an SS officer’s shirt, an affront for which he was beaten. The officer threw the shirt at Mr. Greenfield, who mended it and started wearing it instead of the uniforms the other prisoners wore. From then on, he said, the guards and prisoners began treating him with respect.”
      End Quote

      I don’t think he would have been allowed to wear an SS shirt in Auschwitz instead of the standard striped uniform. Besides that, he was 14 when he entered Auschwitz. Where is his story of how he was not sent to the gas chamber, since he was under the age of 15?

      This quote is from the second link you gave:

      Begin Quote:
      “When an injury landed him in the hospital, Greenfield was spared from the gas chambers by a doctor who had been a friend of his father. The doctor then used Greenfield’s help to spare others.

      “Many times, the doctor made me stand on the line for someone else who had an injury and who would have gone to the gas chamber otherwise,” Greenfield said.
      End Quote

      In this quote, he is implicating Jewish doctors in the camp, who were helping the Nazis to select victims for the gas chamber.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 4, 2012 @ 8:24 am

      • My interpretation of the SS shirt episode is more straightforward; he became respected because he probably acted as a Kapo.

        How else would adult prisoners respect a 14 year old?

        How else would SS allow an inmate to come and go as he pleased in the camp?

        Anyway, the tale he told the Washington Post is a collection of, say, fantasies.

        The Atlantic describes it as a creatively written profile, which is journalist parlance for lies.

        Comment by Eager For Answers — November 4, 2012 @ 3:26 pm

    • Interestingly there is this comment from a reader ; ” I worked with a laday, Agnes, at Oak Park MI and she told me her father’s story, a Jew living in Hungary during the war. He was sent by the Nazi’s to a work camp in Russia. When the war ended he mostly walked back to Hungary surviving by stopping at a villege in the evening and mending clothes in exchange for a meal and lodging. He ended up in Detroit where he was a tailor at the now gone Huges and Hatches for many years. I guess tailors may be made of tougher cloth. ”
      i wonder if he was one of those transited through to the work camps in the east which according to the official story didn’t exist.

      Comment by Pete — November 4, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

  7. And those in the know also knew that the Soviets had already killed many millions in the Red Terror, Holodomor, Great Purge, etc. So I guess they must have thought NS to be much more civilized than the Reds.

    Comment by fnn — November 4, 2012 @ 7:39 am

  8. “They knew it in Rome, they knew it in Washington, they knew it in Stockholm, they knew it in London. Everybody knew it, except we Jews from Hungary didn’t.”

    On June 11, 1944, the Zionist-Jews in the Jewish Agency (de facto government of Jews in BM Palestine) knew that “in Auschwitz there is a large labor camp”, and future founding PM of Israel David Ben-Gurion stated: “The view of the board is that we should not ask the Allies to bomb places where there are Jews.” The Vrba-Wetzler Report had been distributed to Allied governments and leaders over 6 weeks earlier, it was even published in the NYT 9 days after this meeting. So the Jewish Agency was well aware of the gruelpropaganda version of the Auschwitz camps, the only difference is, they knew it gruelpropaganda.

    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/jews-knew-in-june-1944-auschwitz-was.html

    Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — November 4, 2012 @ 7:30 am


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