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November 30, 2012

How much did each Holocaust survivor weigh at the time of liberation?

Filed under: Dachau, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 9:04 am

Every Holocaust survivor seems to know exactly how much he or she weighed when they were liberated.  I got to thinking about this today when I read about yet another Auschwitz survivor who mentioned how much he weighed when he was liberated.  (Average weight for the survivors was around 60 pounds.)

Did the liberators bring scales with them, so that each person could weigh himself?  No, but they did bring cameras with them and the liberation photos show that many of the prisoners were in good health; for example, the women in the photo below, taken at Auschwitz-Birkenau.  (Why wasn’t the old woman sent to the gas chamber immediately upon arrival?)  Notice the nice clothes worn by the young girl in the photo.

Survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau

Survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau

Photos taken on the day of liberation, at all the camps, show that not all prisoners in the concentration camps were skin and bones, even after many years in the camp.

The photo below was taken on the day that one of the sub-camps of Dachau was liberated by soldiers in the 45th Division of the American Army.

Russian POWs in a Dachau sub-camp

Russian POWs in a Dachau sub-camp

Notice that the American Army officer on the left looks slimmer than the Russian POWs.

There are many photos of skinny Russian POWs who were allegedly starved at Mauthausen, as shown in the photo below.

Russian POWs at Mauthausen

Russian POWs at Mauthausen

When I visited the Mauthausen Memorial Site, I saw a scale model of the quarry there, which is shown in the photo below.

Scale model of Mauthausen quarry

Scale model of Mauthausen quarry

On the right, at the top of the photo above, you can see the barracks for the sick inmates at Mauthausen, also known as the “Russian camp” because this section of the camp was first used to house  Soviet POWs. This area is now a graveyard for the sick prisoners who died after the camp was liberated.

Were the men, in the old black and white photo, actually prisoners in the Mauthusen “sick camp”? Were they skin and bones because they were ill?  Or were they “Russian POWs” who had been deliberately starved?

It would be natural to assume that the Russian POWs were treated the worst in the Nazi camps because the Russians were treating German POWs very badly.  But the old photo taken in a Dachau sub-camp shows that at least some of the Russian POWs were treated very well.

27 Comments

  1. The niece of a POW under the Japanese recently asked what “Enteritus 206 Kilo” meant next to his death record. Since Enteritus is a disease of the colon and the small intestines, and the average Holocaust survivor weighed 27 kilos, I’m guessing that 206 kilo actually refers to 20.6 kilo (45.4 pounds), his weight at death.

    Comment by photografr7 — August 10, 2013 @ 6:19 am

  2. The picture of the emaciated prisoners of Mauthausen was faked by the Holocaust propagandists: a pile of dead bodies was added to make it more impressive – http://www.ihr.org/images/1.5.jpg. This faked picture was circulated a lot and still is today. Can such dishonest forgers be trusted in ?

    Comment by hermie — December 8, 2012 @ 7:44 am

  3. a – Young girl in the photo doesn’t look Jewish to me. She looks Russian; she is also well wrapped.
    b – There are millions of photographs that show you thousands of very skinny dead Jewish people….maybe that’s a better testament of how people were worked to death and starved to death; not those who had possibly not long arrived at the camp. A true vision of those that had been there a while were not the relatively ‘healthy’ looking survivors but those that had been there a few months.

    Comment by mogseyward — December 5, 2012 @ 2:35 am

  4. In Marie Vassiltchikov’s book, Berlin Diaries, there is a discussion about a plan by the Orthodox Church in the Western Hemisphere to send food to save from starvation the huge population of Soviet POW’s captured after the launching of Barbarossa. The story goes that everyone was in favor of the proposal excerpt for Hitler-who vetoed it.

    Really, would all that food have allowed to pass through the Allied blockade?

    This is the book:
    http://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/05/books/an-outsider-inside-the-third-reich.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

    Comment by fnn — December 1, 2012 @ 8:16 am

  5. Here is a little bit more on Theriesenstadt where all Jews who were middle class , professional or over 65 were sent from western Europe. The famous Jews of ww2 Denmark were sent there ( those that didn’t move onto Sweden in time) . The Danish government were allowed to send representatives to Theresiendtadt to check on conditions. Of the 500 Danish Jews sent there 47 died during their internment mostly of old age.
    This film was actually shot in 1944. The internees don’t look particularly emaciated ; maybe they were fattened up for the film ?

    Comment by Pete — December 1, 2012 @ 4:56 am

    • The people in the video are normal weight, by 1944 standards. Back then, it was mostly movie stars, models and poor people that were skinny. In fact, the word “poor” was used to mean underweight. (I was “poor” in 1944.)

      Comment by furtherglory — December 1, 2012 @ 6:39 am

    • This particular film is extremely well documented as being the greatest propaganda film of all time for the Nazis when the Red Cross visited the camp. These people were new arrivals, were dressed for the part and then, would you believe, gassed immediately after the film was shot and the Red Cross left.

      Pete, you truly are a denier that the Holocaust ever happened; I’d say you were delusional to be honest, but I know differently. You’re just brainwashed with the neo-nazi story.

      Are you telling me that the millions of allied troops that marched through Europe are lying when they witnessed conditions?

      Are you also saying that those that liberated the camps are lying?

      Are you saying that those thousands of unburnt bodies lying around the camps because the Nazis didn’t have the time or resources to burn them quickly enough are props?

      Are you telling me all the documentation, signatures of commandants and perpetrators, affidavits are fraudulent?

      Are you also telling me , more importantly, that the suffering of the survivors and their stories, from people who have never met, from different countries who all tell the same gruesome stories of families being wiped out, sometimes tortured before being wiped out, are lies?

      Do you want more questions?

      One suggestion: Go to Baden-Baden – there you will find statement after statement from the German people during the period of 1933-1945 of how they actually ‘snitched’ on the Jews that lived there, just to get them shipped off to one of the camps so that they could take their house. There are quite a few German survivors who, when questioned, are quite embarrassed when put to the test, and when they are told that their statement to the Gestapo cost the lives of a family in the gas chambers. They become a little indignant ‘What was I to do….it was the law…I did as the Gauletier instructed me to!’

      Still didn’t happen?

      Comment by mogseyward — December 5, 2012 @ 2:45 am

      • FINALLY a voice of reason

        Comment by Nonhlanhla — December 6, 2012 @ 10:27 pm

      • “Are you telling me that the millions of allied troops that marched through Europe are lying when they witnessed conditions?”

        I don’t think they are lying. But I think they’ve been lied to. They misinterpretated what they saw. They were said that typhus victims were gassed and starved victims what was not true. Eisenhower made many American soldiers come to Dachau and see the alleged “gas chamber”. But 15 years later Holocaust scholars admitted that this “gas chamber” had never been used (an euphemism for “we’ve lied for propaganda reasons and this room has never been a gas chamber”). At Belsen, Buchenwald and other camps located in Germany and Austria it was also said there were gas chambers…before admitting no gas chambers ever existed on the German soil.

        “Are you saying that those thousands of unburnt bodies lying around the camps because the Nazis didn’t have the time or resources to burn them quickly enough are props?”

        No they were victims of the sanitary catastrophy that occured at the very end of WW2 in broken Germany.

        Why were there huge quantities of dead bodies at Belsen (a camp with no gas chambers) and not at Auschwitz (supposely a death camp) if dead bodies are proofs of an extermination policy? Answer: Because Auschwitz was liberated a few months before Belsen, when the Nazis were still able to prevent epidemics from raging in their camps.

        “Are you telling me all the documentation, signatures of commandants and perpetrators, affidavits are fraudulent?”

        Yes they are fraudulent. There are ways to make people ‘confess’ crimes they didn’t perpetrate. At the Dachau trial 137 ‘perpetratrors’ out of 139 had bad testicle damages. “The London cage” was used to make Nazi alleged war criminals ‘confess’ their crimes by torture. Bernard Clarke proudly admitted he tortured Rudolf Hoess to make him admit his camp (Auschwitz-Birkenau) was a Death camp with gas chambers.

        If ‘confessions’ are proofs, must we conclude that the Nazis perpetrated the massacre of Katyn because the Nazi Arno Diere ‘confessed’ he took part in it in front of a Soviet ‘court’?

        “Are you also telling me , more importantly, that the suffering of the survivors and their stories, from people who have never met, from different countries who all tell the same gruesome stories of families being wiped out, sometimes tortured before being wiped out, are lies?”

        Suffering and being exterminated are two different things.

        Many of these ‘survivors’ are patent liars.

        Many people died during WW2. There were periods of time with 500 people dying from typhus at Auscwhitz. So if people really lost their entire families it doesn’t prove that the Nazis had an extermination policy anyway. A famous case is Anne Frank. After staying during a few months at Auschwitz she was evacuated to Belsen where she died from typhus.

        3 million people died from typhus during WW1 and it was of course not the result of any extermination policy.

        Comment by hermie — December 8, 2012 @ 8:21 am

        • Excellent comment. What is your source for the statement that 137 perpetrators out of 139 in the Dachau trial had “bad testicle damage”? There was more than one trial at Dachau where the proceedings of the American Military Tribunal were held. Several of the defendants in the American Military Tribunal proceedings testified that they had been tortured. But 137 out of a total of 139?

          The most famous man, among the prisoners who testified that they were tortured, was Gustav Petrat. You can read about him on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/GustavPetrat2.html

          Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2012 @ 1:51 pm

        • When I was in Poland in 2005, I heard on a Polish TV program that 4 million people died from typhus in Poland during World War I, and that 20 million people world wide died of the flu in World War I. The program had English sub-titles.

          Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2012 @ 6:59 am

          • “When I was in Poland in 2005, I heard on a Polish TV program that 4 million people died from typhus in Poland during World War I”

            4 million in Poland alone. Waw. Pretty impressive…

            And Poland was not as paralized and overcrowed during WW1 as Germany and its camps were at the very end of WW2.

            Comment by hermie — December 9, 2012 @ 8:07 am

        • “I don’t think they are lying. But I think they’ve been lied to. They misinterpretated what they saw. They were said that typhus victims were gassed and starved victims what was not true.”

          How can grown men misinterpret thousands of dead bodies lying in graves and some just piled one on top of the other? How would you interpret that? You have to understand that they didn’t just have a glance at the situation, they liberated them they stayed for days assessing the camps and putting the pieces together. And getting some information from the survivors.

          “Eisenhower made many American soldiers come to Dachau and see the alleged “gas chamber”. But 15 years later Holocaust scholars admitted that this “gas chamber” had never been used (an euphemism for “we’ve lied for propaganda reasons and this room has never been a gas chamber”). At Belsen, Buchenwald and other camps located in Germany and Austria it was also said there were gas chambers…before admitting no gas chambers ever existed on the German soil.”

          Maybe no gas chambers were used on German soil but we all know that the Germans were the masterminds behind Sobibor, Treblinka etc. Some of the gas chambers in Germany were not used because the camps were small and lacked the resources and the cruel minds of people like Hoess and Himmler. It is also clear why they wouldn’t use gas chambers in popular towns for fear of the red cross. Hitler was not an intelligent person, he made dozens of mistakes and seemed to have the maturity level of a 15 year old boy thats why must of the happenings in Germany dont make sense, like why build a gas chamber and not use it and thats what most holocaust deniers cling onto, veery small discrepancies, tiny words or statements from someone who probably had no knowledge and didn’t experience any suffering.

          “No they were victims of the sanitary catastrophy that occured at the very end of WW2 in broken Germany.”

          Oh really? And these victims just happened to be 6 million Jews? No Non-Jewish Germans suffered typhus, or had poor hygiene? And why is that? Maybe because they weren’t forced out of thier homes and shipped off to death and work camps where the water was unsafe and food scarce… Typhus was pretty selective back then? And why would Jews who by the way had decent lives and incomes auger from the effects of poor hygienic practices?

          “Why were there huge quantities of dead bodies at Belsen (a camp with no gas chambers) and not at Auschwitz (supposely a death camp) if dead bodies are proofs of an extermination policy? Answer: Because Auschwitz was liberated a few months before Belsen, when the Nazis were still able to prevent epidemics from raging in their camps.”

          Why were they camps to begin with? Why did Hitler and his soldiers violate the human rights of millions of Jews, dehumanize them, break families, work them to exhaustion, starve them, cause such unbearable pain and strip them of their wealth? Who was he to make that kind of a decision? THATS what we are angry about. Thats why we (the world) executed his people after he cowardly killed himself (again the maturity of a 15 year old, definitely not a soldier or a captain). If they had left the Jews live their lives in their own homes and small villages, they would have fought disease just like the non-Jews did. Germany wouldn’t have had to supply any medication or prevention for them because typhus most likely wouldn’t have been a problem (for example Elie Wiesel lived in Sighet a small town in Transylvania) they would have survived WWII, Tzipora Wiesel, her father and her mother and millions of other people would be alive or would have gotten to live their lives and grow up and have kids of their own… But Hitler had to be an ***h***

          “Yes they are fraudulent. There are ways to make people ‘confess’ crimes they didn’t perpetrate. At the Dachau trial 137 ‘perpetratrors’ out of 139 had bad testicle damages. “The London cage” was used to make Nazi alleged war criminals ‘confess’ their crimes by torture. Bernard Clarke proudly admitted he tortured Rudolf Hoess to make him admit his camp (Auschwitz-Birkenau) was a Death camp with gas chambers. If ‘confessions’ are proofs, must we conclude that the Nazis perpetrated the massacre of Katyn because the Nazi Arno Diere ‘confessed’ he took part in it in front of a Soviet ‘court’?”

          Oh dear God (sigh), Rudolph Hoess was a soldier- he wasnt going to break by being threatened. And he certainly wasnt going to confess to a crime he didnt commit. Extreme measures had to be taken. I am not denying that they were tortured, they were. I’m justifying that torture…. Over one million children were killed gassed like old dogs some of them burnt alive if that doesn’t give you a chill maybe you are distantly related to Hitler. Besides his confession wasnt the nailing of his coffin! Auschwitz was there! Sobibor! Treblinka! Why build gas chambers and camps anyway? The gas chamber was there! Survivors testified! His own wife gave him up! Apart from his confession and that of other guards and officers and survivors there are documents, letters written by Hoess, Himmler and others to Hitler. Documents signed, lists and descriptions of inmates and what about the photographs??? Seriously how can all this documentation be fraudlent? Do you honestly think that the whole world had it in for Germany to the extent of making this up? And what about those experiments carried on twins and other people by that nutjob Mengele?

          “Suffering and being exterminated are two different things. Many of these ‘survivors’ are patent liars. Many people died during WW2. There were periods of time with 500 people dying from typhus at Auscwhitz. So if people really lost their entire families it doesn’t prove that the Nazis had an extermination policy anyway.”

          Putting aside the issue of the gas chambers… Suffering can cause extermination and if the people who are causing your suffering are letting you die in the thousands it IS extermination. Germans seized Jews from their safe, homes… Put them in sanitary danger and watched them die, offered no medication, in fact Mengele infected them with viruses, offered no removal of the sick from the camps they just left them to mix and spread diseases THAT is secondary extermination. THAT is deliberately endangering an entire race of people with the sole goal of extermination. Why else would they have been in those camps? Proof that the Nazi had extermination policies is in documents, actions, physical evidence and speech. You simply CAN NOT deny that. Hitler himself said ” Our revolution will never be complete until we have dehumanised human beings” – and boy did he stick to his word. Later on that year Jews were in this particular order, deprived of civil rights, publicly humiliated, and then murdered in millions in a bid to eradicate the Jewish race.

          “A famous case is Anne Frank. After staying during a few months at Auschwitz she was evacuated to Belsen where she died from typhus. 3 million people died from typhus during WW1 and it was of course not the result of any extermination policy.”

          And those 3 million just happened to all be Jews? Typhus was discriminatory…. Wow. Why did the Germans continue to pack Jews in a camp that they knew was ravaged by disease? Anne was taken from her home at a time when they knew the camps were not sanitised. And you say the Jews aren’t exterminated???? What was this childs crime that she had to be exposed to people with such a disease? And why were those in the camp only Jews, Poles, Gypsies and POWs? This is what I am talking about, if I come into your home today, take you and your family and plunge them into the depth of a ghetto in Zimbabwe were typhoid is rampant, the water is unsafe, with no medication wouldnt that be a crime? Wouldnt you say I want to exterminate your family? What more millions of people of the same race? Taking the time and the money to build death, work and transit camps, Railroads, gas chambers, buildings, electric fences, employing thousands of soldiers and officers for the sole purpose of guarding the camps and being cruel and inhumane. Transporting people over borders, the ghettos…. This doesn’t sound planned to you??

          The dead bodies, the pictures of the camps, people clearly starving, children dead, lists, families ripped apart, statements from survivors, from guards, from the officers, from the German population and the people of the towns near the death camps (who by the way were NOT tortured and actually snitched on the Jews), statements from the liberators…. All of this and you still deny it???

          It’s sad that Hitler a man who had temper tantrums, the intellectual, emotional and mental capacity of an adolescent boy and possibly Jewish blood in him would still be this influential 2012.

          Comment by Nonhlanhla — December 17, 2012 @ 11:00 am

          • You wrote: “Eisenhower made many American soldiers come to Dachau and see the alleged “gas chamber”. But 15 years later Holocaust scholars admitted that this “gas chamber” had never been used (an euphemism for “we’ve lied for propaganda reasons and this room has never been a gas chamber”). At Belsen, Buchenwald and other camps located in Germany and Austria it was also said there were gas chambers…before admitting no gas chambers ever existed on the German soil.”

            Eisenhower ordered that the American soldiers should be brought to the closest camp, not specifically to Dachau, nor specifically to camps that allegedly had a gas chamber. No gas chamber was found at Buchenwald when it was liberated, yet Buchenwald was one of the camps where American soldiers were brought to see an exhibit of shrunken heads and a leather lamp shade that had no tattoos.

            You wrote: “Maybe no gas chambers were used on German soil but we all know that the Germans were the masterminds behind Sobibor, Treblinka etc. Some of the gas chambers in Germany were not used because the camps were small and lacked the resources and the cruel minds of people like Hoess and Himmler. It is also clear why they wouldn’t use gas chambers in popular towns for fear of the red cross.”

            All of the camps were opened to the Red Cross for inspection, including Auschwitz.

            As for Sobibor, the gas chamber was gone by the time that the camp was found. The Holocaust experts are still arguing about the location of the gas chamber at Sobibor. No gas chamber was found at Treblinka. The Soviets testified at Nuremberg that the Jews had been steamed to death in steam chambers.

            If anyone was gassed, it was on the orders of Himmler, who was in charge of all the camps, even the small camps. Himmler was in charge of supplying the “resources” for all the camps, including the small camps.

            You know a lot about the Holocaust, but only one side of the story. You should study the other side of the Holocaust story, and keep an open mind.

            Comment by furtherglory — December 17, 2012 @ 1:25 pm

        • All of your arguments are ridiculous but I’m going to address one in particular. For one, (and I would think this would be obvious to any person with half a brain but you’re delusional so I’ll make an exception), the simple fact that there were working gas chambers AND crematoria at Auschwitz would be a good reason why there weren’t masses of decomposing bodies lying about. They were about to effectively dispose of the bodies by cremating them to ashes. Besides that, those capable of walking were forced to Germany on death marches to be used for even more slave labor as Hitler believed the Third Reich would somehow survive the war. (I guess you are about as delusional as he was) Anywho, when these already starving, disease ridden skeletons arrived Belsen became desperately overcrowded with scarcely any food. As the population of prisoners increased at Belsen so did the inhuman conditions. With scarcely no food and herded together like cattle it is no wonder when typhus did hit the lice ridden prisoners it did so with a vengeance. Their emaciated bodies were no match for the deadly disease and with virtually no medicine prisoners died in droves (including Anne and Margot Frank who you shamelessly spoke of.) And more prisoners kept coming, every day more and more. The death toll was astounding to say the least. Belsen was not equipped to handle death in this magnitude or to house so many prisoners. They literally didn’t have the manpower or know how to dispose of the bodies so piled up. On top of not being capable of dealing with the bodies, they didn’t want to deal with the bodies. They didn’t want to risk catching typhus themselves and burying the bodies would ensure getting sick. And the cycle of death and misery kept right on going until they were liberated. Even then nearly half the prisoners died from disease, malnutrition and exhaustion in the weeks following their liberation. Can you imagine living through the horrors of the Auschwitz gas chambers, surviving the death march, battling typhus and starvation only to die after your liberation? I can’t.

          Comment by Courtney Bandish — December 7, 2015 @ 6:06 pm

          • You wrote: “the simple fact that there were working gas chambers AND crematoria at Auschwitz would be a good reason why there weren’t masses of decomposing bodies lying about.”

            The gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau had been blown up, so there were no “working gas chambers” when the liberators of the camp arrived. The only gas chamber that had been left for the liberators to see was in the main Auschwitz camp. The gas chamber and the crematorium were in the same room; there was only ONE room in the gas chamber building in the main Auschwitz camp. You can see photos of the Auschwitz gas chamber on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08.html

            Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2015 @ 10:34 am

        • I beg to differ! The Nazi’s believed the Jew’s to be “less than human,” and therefore forced them to live in sub-human conditions. Regardless of whether they technically died from typhus, starvation, or were systematically executed, the Nazi’s will forever wear their victims blood on their hands. The prisoners were forced from their homes & families and made to live in filth, soley based on their religion. They weren’t free to leave those DEATH CAMPS, they never chose to live & die in those conditions. Conspiracy theorists always distort the facts to fit their insane beliefs, but it’s impossible in the face of so much proof!

          Comment by HunnyCayx422 — April 22, 2017 @ 3:09 pm

          • ” The Nazi’s believed the Jew’s to be “less than human,” ” –Moron!
            Thinking you know something, because you went to school and the teacher told you so…Idiot!
            Hitler was scared of the Jews, he talked about “Almighty Jewry” here:

            The only religion which has the concept of people being “less than human” is Judaism!!!

            A poet reads from the Jewish humanist, the Israeli professor at University of Jerusalem Israel Shahak about the laws against Non-Jews

            Read my blog post!
            https://direktdemokratihalmstad.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/judaism-has-declared-war-on-humanity-proof/

            The masters of universe don’t allow you to learn in school that it is forbidden within Judaism to save you from death in school, and not through news papers(once mentioned) and media etc..
            But you “know” all about evil Islam, don’t you? Why is that !?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
            THINK!
            All the Jewish talk about death camps, “less than human” etc. is most likely Jewish projection of guilt, for this is what is prepared for the Goyim in their propheseis about the God’s wars which will be fought and won by the Moshiach.
            http://www.hasidicuniversity.org/index.php?page=hu_theocracy/mitzvah_profile.php?mitzvah=154

            Now, my question to you is if you can break out of your brainwashing, add two and two together and explain to yourself, why you were unaware about the facts that I have presented. How is it possible that all people you ask never heard about Non-Jews having no right to exist within Judaism.
            http://archive.is/Xhnn
            What does it tell you about the current state of affaires, the Holohoax, your future etc. which you “know” so much about, with such confidence, but you never knew that Judaism regards you as an animal?
            What does it mean?!?!!?

            Why do they allow you to find the info on the web about their religion?
            I’ll give you the short answer:
            It means this that if you have money, pack your bags and run, run, run, but if you have no money to take you to a far away Island
            then you are in for the slaughter.

            Comment by Lasse Karagiannis (@Amalek_) — April 22, 2017 @ 5:44 pm

  6. The emaciation was a result of the shortage of food throughout Germany and the areas still occupied by German forces in 1945. The Dutch called this the ” hunger winter” and much is made of this for propaganda today. It was never the policy of the German government of the time to starve concentration camp inmates nor the peoples under occupation. In February 1945 thousands of US and RAF planes were flying over Germany destroying every supply train they saw. The German people were in a desperate struggle with enemy forces determined to destroy them; They lost that struggle and will finally be exterminated as a people sometime in the 21st century. At present 35 % of Berlins population is Turkish and this figure is rising daily.

    Comment by Pete — December 1, 2012 @ 3:47 am

    • The German people didn’t know what the feeling of war was about until 1942 when eventually Germany was actually being hit by allied targets. Read up and you’ll find that a fact. It is well documented. That was when the US were forced into the war in December 1941 and then the raids began. Only in 1942 did the Germans feel any effect of war and what a bomb felt like, whereas other cities in Europe had been devastated and destroyed by German bombs, both tanks and air strikes. Warsaw was decimated inside 6 weeks.

      Meanwhile, from 1933 the Jewish people in Germany felt the effects of the Third Reich immediately through exclusion in every day life; by 1939 pograms in Germany had killed thousands of Jews and when war broke out exclusion for Jews extended to Isolation within the Ghettos – they were no longer thought of as human beings; hence the ability to do what they wanted with the Jews without dissent from the German population. By 1942, when the Germans were living the high life until the bombs started affecting their every day lives, the Jews were already being gassed. Jewish clothes and shoes were recycled and sent to the German population. There was not one German in 1945 when the war ended looking like an emaciated belsen or Auschwitz victim.

      Pete your distortion of the facts is transparent.

      Comment by mogseyward — December 5, 2012 @ 2:52 am

  7. ?

    Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — December 1, 2012 @ 12:18 am

  8. This remind’s me of the rather sardonic question put to Hadassah (Ada) Bimko Rosensaft whilst she testified at the Belsen trial:

    “When you were liberated from Belsen were you yourself in a state of extreme emaciation caused by starvation?”

    Piccy of Ada soon after liberation:

    Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — December 1, 2012 @ 12:17 am

  9. OT,

    The 6 Million curse has struck yet another innocent Jew.

    Comment by Eager For Answers — November 30, 2012 @ 4:15 pm


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