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March 14, 2013

Why did the Nazis build a gas chamber at Dachau if they weren’t going to use it?

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 12:18 pm

Most of the tour guides at Dachau tell visitors that the gas chamber at Dachau was never used.  A few of the tour guides tell tourists that the Dachau gas chamber was used “a few times for individual gassing, but not for mass gassing.”   Sometimes, the tourists are told that the gas chamber at Dachau was used, but only for testing the amount of gas needed to kill people. Another explanation given for the Dachau gas chamber, that was never used, is that it was built to train the SS men in how to operate a gas chamber.

This quote is from a blog post which you can read in full here:

Although Dachau was equipped with this gas chamber, the chamber was never used. Historians are not sure why.

The last time that I visited the Dachau Memorial Site in May 2007, there was a sign on the wall of the undressing room with these words:

Gas Chamber

This is the center of potential mass murder. The room was disguised as “showers” and equipped with fake shower spouts to mislead the victims and prevent them from refusing to enter the room. During a period of 15 to 20 minutes up to 150 at a time could be suffocated to death through prussic acid poison gas (Zyklon B).

Note the very clever wording: “potential mass murder” and “could be suffocated to death.”  Up to 150 people at a time could have potentially been suffocated to death with Zyklon-B gas, but strangely, this never happened.

The BarackeX building where the Dachau gas chamber is located

The Baracke X building where the Dachau gas chamber is located

Beginning in February 1942, Jews in Germany and the German-occupied countries were rounded up by the Nazis and deported to the East, according to plans made for “The Final Solution to the Jewish Question in Europe” at the Wannsee Conference on January 20, 1942.  It was at this point, in April 1942, that the Nazis decided to build a homicidal gas chamber in a new building at Dachau called Baracke X, which is shown in the photo above. This was like locking the barn door after the horse had been stolen.  With all the Jews being sent to the east, whom were the Nazis planning to gas at Dachau?

On the blueprints for Baracke X, the homicidal gas chamber was called a shower room, but each of the four disinfection chambers in the same buillding was called a Gaskammer, the German word for gas chamber. The photo below shows the door into one of the disinfection chambers.  A few of the tour guides at Dachau tell visitors that these rooms were homicidal gas chambers.

Door into one of the four disinfection chambers in Baracke X at Dachau

Door into one of the four disinfection chambers in Baracke X at Dachau

An order was issued from Berlin on July 23, 1942 to begin construction of Baracke X at a cost of 150,000 Reichsmark.

By the time that Baracke X was finished in 1943, millions of European Jews had already been killed in the gas chambers at Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor after being transported to the East, and millions more were destined to be sent to the death camps at Auschwitz and Majdanek. Dachau was mainly a camp for Communist political prisoners, anti-Fascist resistance fighters (most of whom were Catholic) and Soviet POWs.  Dachau was not an “extermination camp” for the genocide of the Jews.

When American soldiers liberated Dachau on April 29, 1945, they saw the disinfection chambers at Dachau and assumed that they were being used to gas the Jews at Dachau.

The Report of the Atrocities Committed at Dachau Concentration Camp, signed by Col. David Chavez, Jr., JAGD, 7 May 1945 is quoted below:

The new building had a gas chamber for executions… the gas chamber was labeled “shower room” over the entrance and was a large room with airtight doors and double glassed lights, sealed and gas proof. The ceiling was studded with dummy shower heads. A small observation peephole, double glassed and hermetically sealed was used to observe the conditions of the victims. There were grates in the floor. Hydrogen cyanide was mixed in the room below, and rose into the gas chamber and out the top vents.

The tour guides at Dachau no longer claim that the poison gas was mixed in the basement of Baracke X, from which it rose through the floor drains and was then vented out of empty light fixture boxes, as was explained in the U.S. Army Report. The first time that I visited Dachau in 1998, there was a sign in one corner of the gas chamber which said, in 5 languages, that the gas chamber was never used, or never put into operation.  So why did the Nazis build a gas chamber if they weren’t going to use it?  Did they anticipate that some day there would be a huge Holocaust industry and they didn’t want to disappoint the thousands of tourists who would want the thrill of seeing a dark, creepy gas chamber with a 7.6 ft. ceiling?

As far as I know, no explanation has ever been given for why the Nazis would have built a gas chamber at Dachau, but then never used it.

As the old saying goes: “You had to be there.”  If you have stayed with me this long, dear reader, you deserve an explanation of what happened at Dachau and why, which I am now going to give you.

Building in town of Dachau

Building in town of Dachau

By March 1933, the Nazis has taken over every town in Germany, including Dachau.  The building on the left in the photo above is where the Nazis raised their flag on March 9, 1933, after they took over the town of Dachau.

An important policy of the Nazi party in Germany was called Gleichschaltung, a term that was coined in 1933, to mean that all German culture, religious practice, politics, and daily life should conform with Nazi ideology. This policy meant total control of thought, belief, and practice, and it was used to systematically eradicate all anti-Nazi elements, after Hitler came to power in January 1933.

Under the Gleichschaltung policy, every member of the Nazi party was given a second job, in addition to his regular job.  Heinrich Himmler was given a second job as the supervisor of the German prisons.  On his first visit to the Munich prison, Himmler noted that the prison was overcrowded because Communists had been rounded up after the fire in the German Reichstag on February 27, 1933 and sent to “wild camps” or to regular prisons, including the Munich prison.

On March 22, 1933, Heinrich Himmler opened the first Nazi concentration camp in Germany at an old factory just outside of the town of Dachau. The first prisoners were 200 Communists who had been taken into “protective custody” after the burning of the Reichstag on the night of February 27, 1933; the justification for the imprisonment of the Communists was that they were “enemies of the state.”

Here is a little history of Germany to put everything into context:

Following World War I, Germany became a democratic Republic with a Constitution based on the American Constitution. After Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933, a new congressional election was required to confirm his appointment. In the election which took place on March 5, 1933, the Nazis gained enough seats in the Reichstag (German Congress) so that, with the help of other conservative parties, they were able to pass legislation on March 7th, which ended state’s rights in Germany. This legislation allowed Hitler to unite Germany for the first time into “ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer” (one people, one empire, one leader).

After this legislation was put into effect on March 9, 1933, all the German states were now controlled by the federal government, under the rule of the Nazis; the governors of each state and all the government positions of any importance were now appointed by the Nazis, and of course, the appointees were loyal members of the Nazi party. The Nazi term for this new unity among the German people was Gleichschaltung; it meant that everyone was on the same page with all the people pulling together, united in their beliefs and objectives.

After March 9, 1933, the former German states, such as Prussia and Bavaria, no longer had state’s rights and the German people were now ruled by one government and one leader for the first time ever in the history of the German people.

One reason that the Nazis wanted to bring all the German states under their central control was to make sure that Bavaria would never again be taken over by the Communists, which was what happened on November 7, 1918 when Jewish leader Kurt Eisner led a revolution, forced the King of Bavaria to resign, and then set up a Communist Republic in Bavaria.

Building in town of Dachau where prisoners were kept before the camp was opened

Building in town of Dachau where prisoners were kept for one day before the concentration camp was opened

The building, shown in the photo above, is located down the street from the Brückenwirt Inn at Brunngartenstrasse 5 in the town of Dachau. This building was being used as a gymnasium, at the time that it figured prominently in Dachau history. It was here that the Communists, who had been arrested by the Nazis on March 21, 1933, were first brought when they were taken into “protective custody.” The concentration camp at Dachau did not open until the next day.

The basic plan of the Nazis, who were Fascists, was to save the country of Germany from the Communists.  The original purpose of the Dachau camp was to lock up the Communists and other “enemies of the state,” not to gas the Jews.  The Jews were being “transported to the East” to be gassed.  So a gas chamber at Dachau was totally unnecessary.

No gas chamber existed at Dachau until the American liberators of the camp created one for the benefit of tourists.

70 Comments »

  1. Based on the Available documentation and theories only two are actually practical. As pointed out in the essay “Les chambres à gaz” (The gas chambers) by Mélanie Berger it would be stupid to assume that Dachau’s gas chamber went unused.

    1) The Chamber was use for training SS men how to operate the chamber, though this really only seems based on a visit by Hoess to the camp. (Again noted in Mélanie Berger’s essay.)

    2) It was used for testing “combat gasses” as Rascher’s letter to Himmler entitles.

    http://www.phdn.org/archives/www.tacite.ch/doc/Histoire%20(site)/Recherches%20academiques/Travaux%20de%20maturite/6ChambresaGaz.pdf

    Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 5:39 pm

    • “Practical” doesn’t make it true…
      You seem to think that is whats going to make your case fly….sorry….doesn’t work.
      Facts are what makes it true or not and the Dachau room was made for a show piece after…has NO PRACTICAL purpose except to spread the propaganda
      and lies that there were homicidal gas chambers. No honest historian today would say it was used for killing people.
      In fact they at one time said there were homicidal gas chambers on German land…..today they have abandoned that lie.
      But then again look at how this lie sent many Germans to their deaths.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 6:09 pm

      • 😄 Jim, practical means to be “concerned with the actual doing or use of something rather than with theory and ideas.”

        Sorry to tell you but you haven’t made any case against their essay and as I have said it would be stupid to conclude the chamber wasn’t used.

        Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 7:01 pm

        • The chamber wasn’t used…… next Fairytale.
          I think you brain has been gassed.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 7:37 pm

          • Lol Jim if the chamber was constructed with the barrack and was fully operational it’s quite clear that it would be stupid to believe it wasn’t used. It’s not that the chamber wasn’t use its that no clear evidence exists for gassings inside of it. This probably stems from Rasher being jailed and shot a few days before liberation.

            Despite that the chamber was fully functional and the letter from Rasher shows it was used for the testing of gasses.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 7:41 pm

            • No gas chambers on German soil…
              http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n3p-9_staff.html

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 7:47 pm

              • That doesn’t say “no gas chambers on German soil”… It says ‘No Extermination Camps on German Soil’.

                Jim how fucking retarded can you get? Wiesenthal has only confirmed the extermination camps were to the east in Poland… Not that no gassings occurred on German soil.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 7:51 pm

                • According to your fairytales the extermination of the Jews was done by gas Chambers.
                  So please explain to me how the Jews were exterminated if there wasn’t any gas Chambers what were they hit with sticks and hammers….. LOL

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 8:15 pm

                • Lol I never said gas chambers didn’t exist. Nice strawman.

                  As I have already said your link says the opposite of what you claim… It says no extermination camps existed inside post war Germany. Though Auschwits and Chelmno were within the reich during the war.

                  Not sure what this proves though, as a gas chamber still existed at Dachau. A gas chamber also existed at Mauthousen as well. Both were inside German lands.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:20 pm

                • Your new source is full of shit. And misrepresents what Simon has said, when one can clearly read via the quote that he simply states no extermination camps… This doesn’t mean gas chambers didn’t exist on German soil Jim. You honestly managed to find someone on the same level of idiocy as yourself.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:31 pm

                • You wrote: “a gas chamber still existed at Dachau.”

                  I have written extensively about the gas chamber at Dachau. Start with this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/01/03/yes-virginia-there-is-a-gas-chamber-at-dachau/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 7:32 am

                • “I have written extensively about the gas chamber at Dachau.”

                  That’s great, but can you explain the relevance to Jims idiotic claims though?

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 8:09 am

                • You wrote: “A gas chamber also existed at Mauthousen”

                  If you ever decide to visit any of the Holocaust gas chambers, the one at Mauthausen is a Must See. I have an extensive section on this gas chamber on my website at

                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Mauthausen/Gas%20Chamber/index.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 7:43 am

                • The chamber at Mauthousen is incomplete. The chamber at Majdanek interests me more.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 8:45 am

                • You wrote: “The [gas] chamber at Mauthousen is incomplete. The chamber at Majdanek interests me more.”

                  I wrote about the Majdanek gas chamber on my website at
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Majdanek/Majdanek02.html

                  When I went to Majdanek, many years ago, I was a True Believer, not a Holocaust denier, so my website pages about Majdanek are kosher, and can be used as a source by True Believers.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 9:10 am

                • “my website pages about Majdanek are kosher”

                  Not really, it’s a bit outdated… I would recommend you update it based on the quotes provided here by Roberto or for you to order Kranz book.

                  https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25756#p25756

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 9:16 am

                • You wrote “it’s a bit outdated…” in reference to my website.

                  I started my website back in 1998 when the Internet was very slow. It took forever for a page to load. Originally, I had only one photo on each page of my website, with a link to some text about the photo.

                  Back then, in 1998, I was using software that no longer exists; I had my own server for my website. I updated my website many times before converting it to what exists now. I now concentrate on my blog, which I change almost daily. My website is closed to changes.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 9:49 am

                • As I have said its outdated… It seems to also miss something. The window in Chamber IV (experimental gas chamber / disinfection chamber) wasn’t there in 1942.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 9:59 am

                • You wrote: “Wiesenthal has only confirmed the extermination camps were to the east in Poland… Not that no gassings occurred on German soil.”

                  I wrote about the gas chambers on German soil here:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/is-5-years-in-prison-too-much-for-saying-there-were-no-gas-chambers-at-dachau-and-mauthausen/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 7:53 am

                • “I wrote about the gas chambers on German soil ”

                  Again, the relevance?

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 8:10 am

                • We are participating in a discussion in which gas chambers on German soil are being discussed.

                  You have a habit of writing a comment without saying what you are replying to. That means that anyone, who wants to answer you, has to look up previous comments.

                  I mentioned that I have written about the “gas chambers on German soil” so that someone, who wants to understand your comment, can look it up on my blog or my website.
                  Simon Wieselthal said that there were no gas chambers on German soil. I wrote about that here:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/fake-pictures-by-simon-wiesenthal/

                  Once again, you have totaled me out. I cannot deal with you.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 8:33 am

                • Well it’s actually more specific, aka the Dachau gas chamber. Then there is the other subject of Jim Rizolis dishonest use of Wiesenthal’s letter which states no extermination camps existed in Germany.

                  As for my “habit” I don’t see you complaining about Jim and Tal not always quoting the point they are responding to… It also seems rather unnecessary here considering its really only a chat between Jim and I.

                  As for totaling you out…. It might be you just don’t read the conversation.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 8:43 am

                • You wrote: “I don’t see you complaining about Jim and Tal not always quoting the point they are responding to… It also seems rather unnecessary here considering its really only a chat between Jim and I.”

                  You are writing on the comment section of my blog. This is not a chat room. There is no private chatting going on here. There are around 1,600 people per day reading my blog. Most of these readers never comment. Sometimes, a reader will e-mail me privately and make a comment or ask a question.

                  Everything that you write here is extremely public. Out of the 1,600 readers, only 1000 of them are in the USA. The others are from every country in the world, including some countries that I have never heard of before.

                  I suspect that there are groups of people who meet once a week to read my blog, but they never comment.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 9:28 am

                • It’s a comment section, something which I haven’t disputed.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 9:34 am

                • Some people just don’t get it there were no gas Chambers anywhere especially on German soil but this knucklehead DH wants us to believe something that didn’t happen and even historians agree it didn’t happen….. unbelievable!
                  But you can wish all you want that’s your agenda that’s what you want to believe you have a right to believe it but you’re living in a fairy tale land.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 9:38 am

                • Some people just don’t understand that they are fucking liars. And Jim, you are a fucking liar.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:00 am

                • You’re the only one here that talks like you do…..If I ran this site I would ban you not for you HoloHoax lies but for your speech…you have no respect for people I sense you are a very young person. Or an adult with a lot of growing up to do.
                  Do you see anyone else here swearing like to do? We had one young girl that was posting here that was not respectful but she left.
                  Whats with you young ones today? Can’t you have a conversation without being disrespectful?

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 10:06 am

                • That’s cause you’re a coward that cannot deal with people pointing out your bullshit. Just like your claim that Wiesenthal said “no gas chambers in Germany” when he only said no extermination camps. It’s dishonest, and idiotic as anyone can get.

                  Once you stop saying stupid things and admit you haven’t studied into areas you express an opinion on, maybe then I might stop calling you an idiot and a retard.

                  And you know why I’m disrespectful? Because you cannot create your own opinion and continue to argue things that you can easily get a basic understanding about. You also have no knowledge in the area of critical thinking or in actually being able to recognize a logical fallacy.

                  I actually do know Click though… She did post for a while but lost interest. This aside though Jim, think for a moment and pick out who the insults are directed at. (Hint: 99% of the time it’s directed at you.)

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:15 am

                • You wrote: “I actually do know Click though… She did post for a while but lost interest.”

                  Ms. Click did not POST on my blog. I am the only person that POSTS on my blog. Ms. Click made COMMENTS on my blog.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 10:43 am

                • “Ms. Click did not POST on my blog. I am the only person that POSTS on my blog. Ms. Click made COMMENTS on my blog.”

                  I didn’t come here to argue semantics.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:50 am

                • You wrote: “I didn’t come here to argue semantics.”

                  Well EXCUSE me for living! I had to look up semantics:
                  http://www.dictionary.com/browse/semantics

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 10:56 am

                • I never said anything that you should be taking offense to… It’s again that I didn’t come here to argue over the meaning of a word.

                  Simply it’s just the “the meaning of a word, phrase, sentence, or text.”

                  In this case I didn’t come to argue over words.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:58 am

                • You wrote: “I never said anything that you should be taking offense to…”

                  You should never end a sentence with a preposition. I am sorry that I take offense to most of what you write.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 11:02 am

                • I am not sure how it’s a preposition…. As that’s a word usually preceding, a noun or pronoun.

                  semantics is a noun, so…

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 11:05 am

                • You wrote: “I never said anything that you should be taking offense to…”

                  The correct sentence would be: “I have never said anything, to which you should take offense.”

                  That is how one avoids ending a sentence with a preposition. Now, go to the blackboard and diagram the sentence, so that you can get it right, the next time.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 11:26 am

                • You wrote: “I am not sure how it’s a preposition….”

                  I wrote a blog post about how children are taught about the Holocaust in a school classroom.
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/04/23/holy-toledo-students-learn-about-holocaust-horrors/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 1:20 pm

                • Quote from DH……
                  And you know why I’m disrespectful? Because you cannot create your own opinion and continue to argue things that you can easily get a basic understanding about. You also have no knowledge in the area of critical thinking or in actually being able to recognize a logical fallacy”

                  So you admit you’re disrespectful, that shows how immature you are. Only children behave that way….Not a mature adult. And you’re attack me, LOL Am I that dangerous to you? If I was such an idiot why bother.
                  Do you normally bother with idiots? Have you noticed that’s why I don’t engage you in great length……Get it?
                  I don’t waste time on idiots…..I only deal with somewhat reasonable people, when they off on a tangent or start to behave disrespectfully I bail on them.
                  I have enough respect for myself not to waste my time with people like you. I guess you’re not paying attention. I will give you some time but not anything that takes up a lot of my time.
                  By the way…I reading through all the Holocaust handbooks and other related books….I would think that would be of some well read information I have on my resume…. Not may people can say that. What are you reading now? Just HoloHoax websites that have no clue and believe you can smash 1.5 million people to ashes with sticks and hammers. Almost as good as the piles of clothes Gerstein said was 120 ft high and the shoes 75 ft high……..must of been seen for miles around, funny no ones else saw it….LOL These are the knuckleheads that you believe…..good luck with that. I wonder if the clothing and shoes were near the bone smasher squad….
                  The meds must of been plenty for all that day….

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 11:18 am

                • “So you admit you’re disrespectful, that shows how immature you are. Only children behave that way….”

                  I admit that I am not very polite with my words, but this doesn’t mean that someone is close to that of a child… Though it could be argued that I am not professional.

                  “Not a mature adult. And you’re attack me, LOL Am I that dangerous to you? If I was such an idiot why bother.”

                  I have told you before that I am a college student, not sure why you expected me to be professional. Though maturity is outside the question here considering that you commonly use Ad Hominem attacks against people you don’t agree with. That is childish Jim, not me calling you an idiot.

                  https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

                  You attack ones character so grow the fuck up.

                  “Do you normally bother with idiots?”

                  I argue with you and the YouTube denier community… It’s hard to find people stupider then these two areas. Just cause you are an idiot doesn’t mean I shouldn’t respond.

                  “Have you noticed that’s why I don’t engage you in great length……Get it?”

                  Lol no cause you constantly switch the subject cause you are trying to avoid any directly conflict to what you believe. That’s why you jump from talking about Auschwits to Gurstien. This again is dodging the question.

                  “I don’t waste time on idiots…”

                  It’s really hard to find anyone less versed in the history of the holocaust then you… So I am not sure who you consider an “idiot”.

                  “I reading through all the Holocaust handbooks and other related books”

                  Which one are you on?

                  “I would think that would be of some well read information I have on my resume…”

                  No one would take you in for a job… I would give you credit if you took notes along as you read.

                  “What are you reading now?”

                  The Extermination Camps of Action Reinhardt, Majdanek, the concentration camp in Lublin, and I am slightly rereading commandant of Auschwits.

                  “Just HoloHoax websites that have no clue and believe you can smash 1.5 million people to ashes with sticks and hammers.”

                  Most bones were cremated to ash… The rest would be friable.

                  Not every grave was dug up ether.

                  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3295228/EXCLUSIVE-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-graves-dug-hunt-treasure-Shocking-photos-reveal-looters-disturb-mass-burial-sites-Poland-s-Sobib-r-Nazi-death-camp.html

                  Then you also go back to the Gerstein bullshit. As we have explained time and time again. He was there for a day Jim. He’s not going to remember everything accurately after 2 to 3 years.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 11:42 am

                • quote from DH
                  Then you also go back to the Gerstein bullshit. As we have explained time and time again. He was there for a day Jim. He’s not going to remember everything accurately after 2 to 3 years.

                  Now use that same reasoning and apply it to the supposed HoloHoax survivors 10-75 years later…..do you think they are going to get ANYTHING straight?
                  And yet you depend on these liars for your information…..Yikes! Now you have your excuse, for the stupid things they say.
                  By the way you told me a lot about what and who you are, and I can now see your immaturity level. You obviously have been recruited by the ADL,JDL or whatever Jew run organization to watch Holocaust Denial content on the web. Now I get it…..you’re a troll first class. You have your orders, you don’t care about truth you’re here you’re here to disrupt the free flow of HoloHoax truths.
                  The problem is you are outnumbered with HoloHoax truthers here who are way older and wiser.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 12:58 pm

                • “Now use that same reasoning and apply it to the supposed HoloHoax survivors 10-75 years later…..do you think they are going to get ANYTHING straight?”

                  Not everything Jim… This again is where you fail logically… One again needs to look for corroboration in the testimonies… This again doesn’t mean they will have everything wrong.

                  “And yet you depend on these liars for your information…..Yikes!”

                  So not being able to remember things correctly after so meany years makes some a Liar? Wow, by that logic I guess everyones a liar.

                  They won’t forget everything Jim, one needs to look for as I have already said “corroboration”.

                  “Now you have your excuse, for the stupid things they say.”

                  I don’t understand how saying that him going to the site for a day is an excuse… its a simple explanation. He didn’t work on the site, and only visited for a day.

                  “By the way you told me a lot about what and who you are, and I can now see your immaturity level.”

                  How does explaining that I am not profession with my wording make someone immature? I also don’t deny who I am, as I have already explained to you. I’m a college student. This aside you will continue with your idiotic posts.

                  ” You obviously have been recruited by the ADL,JDL or whatever Jew run organization to watch Holocaust Denial content on the web. ”

                  We again see the retard trying to connect anything that opposes him with the Jews… Just like how he got himself banned off skeptic, he obviously has to blame the Jews for his own problems.

                  “you’re a troll first class.”

                  You’re a first class retard.

                  ” You have your orders, you don’t care about truth you’re here you’re here to disrupt the free flow of HoloHoax truths.”

                  Just like your claim the Ball Mill was a Cement mixer.

                  Just like your claim that teeth don’t smash well.

                  Just like your claim that Wiesenthal claimed no gas chambers existed in Germany.

                  It is you who doesn’t care for the truth. Its you. You are the one who is full of shit.

                  “The problem is you are outnumbered with HoloHoax truthers here who are way older and wiser.”

                  Older maybe but “outnumbered”… No more people believe Elvis is alive the deny the Holocaust happened. Its that you Jim are a fucking idiot who again makes an appeal to popularity… Which is again a LOGICAL FALLACY.

                  https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 1:18 pm

                • You wrote: “How does explaining that I am not profession with my wording make someone immature? I also don’t deny who I am, as I have already explained to you. I’m a college student. This aside you will continue with your idiotic posts.”

                  I wrote this blog post about how the Holocaust is taught in America’s schools:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/how-to-teach-the-holocaust-to-students-in-pennsylvania/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 1:32 pm

                • There is no doubt DH graduated first class in Holohoax indoctrination.
                  Most of the young people today have no clue of history or anything of substance for that matter.
                  They are great with technology though….playing and texting on their cell phones and those computer games, they sure have mastered them with one eye closed…
                  Thats why they are socially crippled they have little interaction with people head on and all of their association is behind their computers and cell phones.
                  Thats why they swear and act so immature because if they were in the real world they would get a big boot in the ass by fellows like me for their rudeness.
                  Thats how it was with me when I was a kid.
                  Truly a pitiful generation, but lets be fair here they sure haven’t had anyone out their from previous generations to teach then any differently and we shouldn’t expect the world from them.
                  Their parents were most likely brought up the same way.
                  Sad bunch of children playing in an adult world, and now being manipulated by the Jews on the Holohoax issue. Older folks like ourselves have seen through the lies and have something to compare it with while the younger highly pliable minds of the younger one don’t have a chance. They have taken up on the lies lock, stock, and barrel.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 1:54 pm

                • You wrote: “Thats why they are socially crippled they have little interaction with people head on and all of their association is behind their computers and cell phones”

                  I never talk to young people about the Holocaust. I never mention that I have a website, and a blog, about the Holocaust. Young people today know nothing about the Holocaust, and they would think that I am completely crazy.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 2:00 pm

                • FG quote

                  I never talk to young people about the Holocaust. I never mention that I have a website, and a blog, about the Holocaust. Young people today know nothing about the Holocaust, and they would think that I am completely crazy.

                  me
                  Thats why they think we revisionist all are crazy because they have been so brainwashed by the HoloHuxsters who come in and their schools and indoctrinate them them with HolooHoax dribble.
                  They NEVER had an opportunity to see the other side and they now have to live with their cognitive dissonance.
                  Yup….its actually painful for them to hear the truth and thats why some of them react here the way they do.
                  Sad to see so much potential in people wasted on the BIG LIE.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 2:06 pm

  2. Its pretty amazing how dumb people can be denying that Germans gassed millions of innocent Jews. All anyone has to do is read the testimonies of the Nazis themselves who admitted to the mass murder and gassing of the Jews. Read
    http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/denial/testimony.txt

    Comment by DanKelso (@DanKelso1) — July 23, 2016 @ 3:25 pm

  3. To stupid Holocaust deniers, former Nazi Willem Sassen secretly recorded Eichmann in an interview in the mid 50s in Argentina. Life magazine got a copy of it and published it in 1960.
    In the interview, Eichmann admits to the Final Solution ordered by Hitler, the gas chambers, the mass deportations, and the mass murders.
    You cant use the British forced Eichmann to say this like the Holocaust deniers try to do with Hoess
    Google, Willem Sassen Eichmann interview.

    Do you know who Franz Suchomel is?
    Franz Suchomel was secretly recorded for the movie Shoah. Suchomel was one of the top SS guards at Treblinka.
    Listen to his interview that was shown in the movie Shoah in 1985.
    Franz Suchomel who talks very detailed about the gas chambers at Treblinka and the mass murder of the Jews there.
    His interviews are on Youtube

    Franz Stangl the top Nazi commandant at Treblinka did 70 hours of interviews with Gitta Sereny in 1971 about this role in the mass murder of the Jews at Treblinka.
    Gitta wrote a book about the interview called
    Into That Darkness: An Examination of Conscience.
    http://www.amazon.com/Into-That-Darkness-Examination-Conscience/dp/0394710355

    Comment by DanKelso (@DanKelso1) — July 23, 2016 @ 3:16 pm

    • Oh Cry Me a River…… the Holocaust is a scam most of the eyewitnesses lied they had reasons to lie because they would lose their pensions the families would be threatened and things of that sort would happen to them. What would you expect them to say now they have to go along with the program.
      All these witnesses can say what they want but the facts remain there weren’t any and you can’t prove it because none of them could be used today… to do any gassing today in these buildings if they were even there today would be impossible better the way they were set up.
      If you want to believe that six million Jews were killed in homicidal gas Chambers using bug spray good luck with that.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — July 23, 2016 @ 3:37 pm

  4. Just another horror Disneyland to make all the visitors happy.
    The only problem is there was no horror and it had to be made up to appear that way.
    Of course the people won’t complain they paid good money to see this stuff….

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — July 5, 2016 @ 3:12 pm

  5. Furtherglory wrote: “The original purpose of the Dachau camp was to lock up the Communists and other “enemies of the state,” not to gas the Jews. The Jews were being “transported to the East” to be gassed.”

    Jews transported to the East to be gassed…only if one assumes that ‘information’ from Soviet propagandists was more reliable than ‘information’ from American propagandists.

    The six-million-dollar questions are: Why would the ‘gas chambers’ reported by Soviet propagandists be any more real than the ‘gas chambers’ reported by American propagandists and debunked decades ago? And also, why would the ‘gas chambers’ reported by the Soviets be any more real than the electrocution chambers, the steam chambers, the suffocation vacuum chambers, the electrocution conveyor belts and the special pedal-driven brain-bashing machines ‘reported’ by the same Soviets during and after WW2? Why would multi-debunked compulsive liars tell the truth, even only once, in the first place?

    And Jewish storytellers don’t save the holo horror myth, as they were already defaming Nazi Germany with a tsunami of now-debunked lies of “hair-raising perversity” (Jews mutilated, Jewish cemetries desecrated, Jewish girls raped in front of their parents, etc.) in early 1933. Why would well-known compulsive liars have told the truth in the 1940’s about a country which they had already defamed with shameless lies on countless occasions through the 1930’s?

    Believing in the Nazi gas chambers is like deciding to believe that Pinocchio can also tell the truth after all. Who knows? Maybe he can…😉

    Comment by hermie — August 15, 2014 @ 7:32 am

    • You have to remember that, back then, people in America, and probably in other countries, were not highly educated and sophisticated, as they are now. Also, keep in mind that the British first started broadcasting, in June 1942, that the Jews were being gassed.

      I was in elementary school in 1942, when I heard about the Jews being gassed. I lived in Missouri where there was a real gas chamber, so I knew what that meant.

      By the time that the camps were liberated, everyone had heard about the gas chambers, and the American liberators went looking for the gas chambers, that they had heard about.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 16, 2014 @ 8:05 am

    • So we’re supposed to believe that official population records, pre-war and post-war, are fabricated. The disappearance of nearly 6 million Jews and 5 million other groups is clearly documented- I suppose they just vanished into thin air. So, we’re also supposed to disbelief the thousands upon thousands of unconnected eyewitnesses i.e. Poles, Germans, Jews, SS gaurds, French, Dutch, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Russians, local town populations… The physical evidence, which I personally have visited and reviewed. Granted, there may have been renovation of certain camp areas – not in the case of Dachau, if you watch the liberation videos and immediate touring of locals around heaps of corpses blocking the crematoria and entrance to the test gas chamber. I have visited Dachau and this all clearly evident. Please don’t use paranoid conspiracy theories and lack of knowledge to justify your anti-Semitism. It’s offensive that you could turn the blame on innocent men, women and children for your propaganda. Even if you disbelieve the atrocities, you are attempting to racially stereotype. I assume you believe that 4 year old Jewish children and Jewish farmers, cobblers and tailors were part of this supposed conspiracy of yours – please tell me, at what age are they initiated into this plot? Quite frankly, you are exploiting conspiracy theories to justify anti-Semitism and bigotry. Perhaps if I were to arrest and exterminate your relatives, children, grandparents on the charge of an Nazi world conspiracy and then accuse all of your race of the same crime – you may have some sympathy. I suggest you take a good long look at yourself and the lack of human empathy you espouse – to lose that, is to stop being human.

      Comment by Kristopher — May 13, 2016 @ 4:56 pm

      • You wrote: “in the case of Dachau, if you watch the liberation videos and immediate touring of locals around heaps of corpses blocking the crematoria and entrance to the test gas chamber.”

        Where is the location of the “test gas chamber.”?

        Comment by furtherglory — May 14, 2016 @ 5:58 am

      • You wrote: “The disappearance of nearly 6 million Jews and 5 million other groups is clearly documented-”

        The 6 million figure never changes, but the records have changed. The number of deaths at Auschwitz has gone down from 4 million Jews to 1.1 million Jews, but the 6 million Jews has not changed. The number of Jewish deaths at Majdanek has gone from 1.5 million down to 59,000. Yet this change is not reflected in the 6 million figure.

        Comment by furtherglory — May 14, 2016 @ 6:16 am

        • Well, let me tell you very simple fact. I am from Poland. We have our registers of Jews from before the War. There were 3 milion Jews living in Poland at that time. Virtually non of them left after the War. Where are they then? 300.000 neighbours of my grandfather from Warsaw – area burned by SS in 1943 as big as a middle German city (e.g. Frankfurt Oder). 100.000 Jews from Łódź. 70 tausend from Kalisz. 25 tausend from a smaller city next to Warsaw – Otwock. 10 tausend from my second grandfather city – Ostrołęka. Where they all went in your opinion? And why do we have in virutally every city Jewish kirkut (cementary) or some remembrance of it, in every city the former Jewish area, often with a synagogue, mykwa, Jewish butcher shop? Why do we have a huge quarter of Krakow all covered with many synagogues, with the huge butcher shop and with the streets with Jewish names? Where are the inhabitants in your opinion? Or perhaps the Americans buit all these devices in Poland?

          Comment by Józef Kostrzycki — August 13, 2016 @ 3:00 pm

          • You wrote: “There were 3 million Jews living in Poland at that time. Virtually non of them left after the War. Where are they then?”

            I wrote about the Jews in Poland on this blog post:

            https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/the-lopuchowo-forest-in-poland-where-2000-jews-were-executed-by-the-nazis-during-wwii/

            Comment by furtherglory — August 13, 2016 @ 5:08 pm

            • “just days after the Nazis occupied the town, on July 10, 1941, the Polish residents murdered almost all of the Jews in the town”. Well, Poland fought a good war and killed many Germans shooting more bullets than the French did one year afterwards. Then it was occupied by the Germans with the German administrations. If the Jews were killed in Jedwabne – and there pobably were – it was under the German administration that is to say the German police, the German Burgermeister and the German army. We had 3 millions Jews in Poland and we had very difficult relationship with them. There was a lot of hostility before the IIWW. But we were and we are Roman Catholic Christians. That is why our solution to this problems on the state level was never “to kill Jews”. It was – on the state level – the German solution. As we had also a lot of Ukrainians and some Russians and Germans haiving 1000 years a mulitcultural state, we did not think it wise to quorell over religions (we had the religious tolerance since the Warsaw confederation pact in 1573) or ethicity (we had 5 important nations in the same state for a few hundert years before Germans and Russians dissasembled this great east european union). That is why we did not have before the II WW any political party based on the racial or blood ideology as NSDP. Let me reapeat – we did not have ANY such political party, not saying – with the majority in the elections… Polish nacionalism was not blood thirsty and imperialists as German or perhpas French or probably – British. The Jews in Jedwabne were not exhumated. It is still very controversial event in Poland. We do not know exatly how it happend. What we do know, is that on the one hand a lot of our Jewish citizens died in the 1939 war with the Germans and in Katyń as Polish army officers. We know that the Jews who thought the most honorable uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943 were also Polish Army officers and that the Polish Underground Army coopereted with them by exchange of information and selling arms. However, the Jews in brothers Bielski partisan group in the forest of eastern Poland fought on the side of the Red Army which was our enemy equally to Wehrmacht. They were killed by the Polish underground forces. We do not know inhowfar the situation in Jedwabne was similar (and to suggest that Jedwabne – under the German administration – was a kind of a rule strikes as unreasonable). There is no shame in killing a Jew who is armed and is your enemy. There is shame in extermination.

              Many Germans who thing about themselves feel the burden. Not forgetting that the French for some deeds in Algier or Vietnam also should feel it – it is in my opinon good and necessary. There is blame and there is some justice also in this world and this is a kind of a punishment. I know German language and Germans. I do not sympatise with them. They had to change and they still have. You should be the first.

              Comment by Józef Kostrzycki — August 14, 2016 @ 5:24 am

              • You wrote: “If the Jews were killed in Jedwabne – and there pobably were – it was under the German administration that is to say the German police, the German Burgermeister and the German army.”

                I have written several blog posts which were tagged Jedwabne:
                https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/jedwabne/

                Comment by furtherglory — August 14, 2016 @ 5:59 am

              • You wrote: “I know German language and Germans. I do not sympatise with them. They had to change and they still have. You should be the first.”

                How should I change? Why should Germans change?

                Comment by furtherglory — August 14, 2016 @ 6:21 am

                • To stop writing one absolute nonsense after another.

                  Comment by Józef Kostrzycki — August 15, 2016 @ 12:03 pm

                • You wrote: “[that I should stop writing my blog] “To stop writing one absolute nonsense after another.”

                  Good idea! I will be happy to stop writing my blog, just to please you. NOT!

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 15, 2016 @ 12:43 pm

                • FG…..Mr HoloHuxster has plenty of sites to go to that tout his nonsense.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — August 15, 2016 @ 12:56 pm

                • Ok then what is the problem? The truth bother you?
                  If you want to feed up on the HoloHoax lies go to the Skeptics forum…. one in the USA and one International….same nonsense.
                  This site is one of the few that hasn’t been taken over by the Jews who distort the truth.

                  JR
                  CCFIILE.COM
                  VHO.ORG
                  IHR.ORG
                  HOLOCAUSTHANDBOOKS.COM

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — August 15, 2016 @ 12:44 pm

  6. In this french documentary about photographer Lee Miller, who was the first to enter Dachau we have this statement from her report, at 37:40:

    “The gas chambers resemble their name, written on the doors: showers. When the designated victims had removed their clothes, they innocently entered in the rooms, leaving their prison garbs behind to take a shower and being deloused. When they turned the tap, they gave themselves death, thus sparing the SS the culpability to be murderers.

    At 36:30, her colleague David E. Scherman, speaks of the fantastically horrible scenes they saw in Dachau.

    And guess what are these fantastically horrible scenes . . .

    . . . the SSguards beaten up by the prisoners.

    Comment by Eager For Answers — March 16, 2013 @ 6:08 pm

    • Sorry, link to Lee Miller documentary.

      Comment by Eager For Answers — March 16, 2013 @ 6:12 pm

    • Thanks for the links. One of Lee Miller’s most famous photos is missing. You can see the photo at http://www.flickr.com/photos/hab3045/2197296661/

      The photo in the above link shows the body of an SS man in the Würm river canal at Dachau. It is the body of a guard who was shot after coming down from Tower B at Dachau. The bodies of the SS men were thrown into the canal and the American soldiers continued to shoot at the dead bodies. This could be considered one of the horrors of Dachau. You can read more about it on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauLiberation/GuardTowerB.html

      Comment by furtherglory — March 17, 2013 @ 6:23 am

    • Quote from Lee Miller’s report: “When they turned the tap, they gave themselves death, thus sparing the SS the culpability to be murderers.” She wasn’t very observant. The shower faucets could not have been turned on by the prisoners inside the Dachau shower room. She might have seen the showers before the Dachau shower room was made into a gas chamber by the American liberators. Lee Miller was a very sophisticated woman; if she had seen the shower room after it was made into a gas chamber, she might have commented on the fact that the shower heads were not connected to any pipes.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 17, 2013 @ 6:33 am

  7. Too bad the Dachau guards and commandants were killed by American kangaroo courts for being potential murderers.😉

    “When American soldiers liberated Dachau on April 29, 1945, they saw the disinfection chambers at Dachau and assumed that they were being used to gas the Jews at Dachau. The Report of the Atrocities Committed at Dachau Concentration Camp, signed by Col. David Chavez, Jr., JAGD, 7 May 1945 is quoted below: The new building had a gas chamber for executions… the gas chamber was labeled “shower room” over the entrance […]”

    False. The Americans never believed the disinfection chambers were homicidal chambers because the disinfection chambers were not labelled “shower room” over the entrance but “Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do not open!” on the door. The U.S. propagandists deliberately lied to the American citizens and even to the American soldiers who had just risked their life for their beloved country.

    “Most of the tour guides at Dachau tell visitors that the gas chamber at Dachau was never used. A few of the tour guides tell tourists that the Dachau gas chamber was used “a few times for individual gassing, but not for mass gassing.” Sometimes, the tourists are told that the gas chamber at Dachau was used, but only for testing the amount of gas needed to kill people. Another explanation given for the Dachau gas chamber, that was never used, is that it was built to train the SS men in how to operate a gas chamber.”

    Very useful to train the SS men in how to operate a gas chamber…which worked in a totally different way from the gas chambers of the other “Death camps” were supposed to work.

    The Holocaust icon Simon Wiesenthal gave another ‘explanation’. He said “”a gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed.” Dr. Broszat wrote in the name of the prestigious Institute for Contemporary History (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte): “Neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other prisoners gassed. The gas chamber in Dachau was never entirely finished or put “into operation.” Hundreds of thousands of prisoners who perished in Dachau and other concentration camps in the Old Reich [that is, Germany in its borders of 1937] were victims, above all, of the catastrophic hygienic and provisioning conditions”

    Comment by hermie — March 16, 2013 @ 9:35 am

    • Quote:”The U.S. propagandists deliberately lied to the American citizens and even to the American soldiers who had just risked their life for their beloved country.” Who was threatening “their beloved country,” America?
      The Americans allowed themselves to be influenced/generated into a frenzy of hatred of Germany years before America entered the war, and these American soldiers who risked their lives for their beloved country were driven by a genocidal bloodlust to kill Germans, just as their fathers before them had been when America entered WW1.
      The genocidal American footprint around the globe is little different today, except in scope, than during WW1 & WW2.
      Those American soldiers who had just risked their lives for their beloved country, in reality, risked their lives for the “Second Promised Land” of the Eastern European Asiatic Mongol Khazar fake jews.
      Like it or not, American military conduct against Germany in WW2 was little better than the conduct of Russian Soviet
      mercenary’s (I can’t call the Russian Soviets:”Solders”) in 1945 when they instigated a policy of mass rape and mass murder against German civilians. Jomi

      Comment by John-Joseph: Saintclair — March 30, 2013 @ 3:35 am

  8. The words Dachau and Belsen along with Auschwitz have entered the Anglo mind as a meme synonymous for hell courtesy of Billy Wilder, Alfred Hitchcock, Ilya Ehrenburg and the US psychops. These words will remain embedded for generations courtesy of the dominant world power structures as they serve a purpose in legitimizing US world hegemony and the continued colonization of the middle east. To find out what actually happened in these places during WW2 is a noble quest because the truth will set you free.

    Comment by Pete — March 16, 2013 @ 4:55 am


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