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March 21, 2013

Is there any proof that gas chambers existed in the Nazi camps?

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 12:19 pm

Today I was doing some searching on the Internet when I came across this website.  The webmaster has apparently been searching for years for proof that gas chambers existed in Europe during Word War II and that they were used by the Nazis.  Here is a quote from this page of the website:

Therefore, it is of no use to talk about “eyewitnesses,” chemical properties of the insecticide supposedly used in the mass exterminations, or anything else. First, we must locate and/or define a Nazi gas chamber. Everything else comes second.

The above quote was written about six years ago, and I don’t know whether anyone ever came forward and revealed the location of a Nazi gas chamber, so I am going to do so now.

The photo below shows a real Gaskammer (German word for gas chamber) in the Dachau concentration camp.  Note the word “Gaszeit” (German for Gas time) on the door into the Gaskammer.  What more proof do you want that this was a gas chamber?

American soldier poses in front of a Gaskammer door at Dachau

American soldier poses in front of a Gaskammer door at Dachau

The photograph above was taken by T/4 Sidney Blau on April 30, 1945; it shows a US soldier standing in front of one of the Gaskammern (plural) doors at Dachau.  Yes, there were multiple gas chambers at Dachau which the American soldiers saw when they liberated the camp. The political prisoners in the camp led the Americans to the gas chambers minutes after they had arrived.

The caption which the US Army put on the photo above was as follows:

Gas chambers, conveniently located to the crematory, are examined by a soldier of the U.S. Seventh Army. These chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau concentration camp.

The photo below, which I took in May 2003, shows the same door which is now bolted to another door so that it remains open at all times.  Note that the words on the door have been painted over.

Door into gas chamber has been bolted so that it stays open

Door into gas chamber has been bolted so that it stays open

Sign above gas chamber door at Dachau, May 2003

Sign above gas chamber door at Dachau, May 2003

The photo above shows a black sign with white letters near the ceiling which says “Fumigation cubicles” in English. Although the sign says in five languages that these were disinfection chambers, some of the Dachau tour guides tell visitors that these cubicles were used for homicidal gassing. Just after I finished taking this photograph in May 2003, a tour group entered the corridor and an English-speaking guide told the students: “When a transport of Jews was brought to Dachau, they had to remove their clothes, and then they entered these chambers where they were gassed.”

Maybe I misunderstood the tour guide.  Maybe he said that when a transport of prisoners arrived at Dachau, they had to remove their clothes and then the clothes were put into the gas chamber to be fumigated.  It doesn’t matter:  This was a Gaskammer which used Zyklon-B gas for killing.  Whether it was lice or Jews that were killed, this cubicle was a Gaskammer, and it was the Nazis themselves that called it a Gaskammer.  So there is your proof that there were Nazi gas chambers, and don’t you deny it.

But what about Auschwitz-Birkenau where mass gassing took place? Yes, there were gas chambers at Birkenau.  The term used on the blueprints for the gas chamber buildings at Birkenau was Gaskammer.  The photo below shows one of the Gaskammer buildings at Birkenau.

Building at Auschwitz-Birkeanau where a Gaskammer was located

Building at Auschwitz-Birkeanau where a Gaskammer was located

Door into Gaskammer building has blue stains caused by use of Zyklon-B

Door into Gaskammer building at Birkenau has blue stains caused by the use of Zyklon-B

Fortunately, the stains caused by Zyklon-B have not been painted over, so anyone can see that the building at Auschwitz-Birkenau, shown in the photos above, used Zyklon-B.

There are two buildings at Birkenau, where Zyklon-B was used; they are located on the south side of the main road through the Birkenau camp.  Tour guides do not take visitors to these buildings.  The two gas chamber buildings are shaped like the letter T and are mirror images of each other. The photos above shows building BW5b which is located in the B1b section of Birkenau on the left side of the camp as you are standing at the entrance gate into the camp. The east wing of the building above was used for delousing.

The second delousing building is BW5a in the B1a section, which is on the other side of the fence on the right in the photo above. The west wing of the BW5a building was used for delousing. Both of these brick buildings also had shower rooms for the prisoners.

But were gas chambers, designed for disinfecting the clothing of the prisoners,  ever used for gassing the Jews?  Yes, according to Rudolf Hoess, the first Commandant of Auschwitz.

In December 1942, there were 19 fumigation chambers, which were designed to use Zyklon-B, installed in the Administration building in the main Auschwitz camp, which is now the Visitor’s Center. According to Rudolf Hoess, the disinfection chambers at the Auschwitz main camp were also used for gassing the Jews on one occasion in 1944. In his autobiography entitled Death Dealer, Hoes wrote the following on page 364:

After the destruction of the Hungarian Jews and the Jews from the Lodz ghetto, it was decided that the sonderkommando who had worked burning the bodies in the ovens of the crematory and during the open-pit cremations should themselves be killed in order to destroy the only witnesses who were in a position to tell what happened. About two hundred of the Sonderkommando were transferred to the main camp at Auschwitz, where they were gassed in the chamber used to disinfect clothing.

Why would the Sonderkommando prisoners have been gassed in disinfection gas chambers?  The Sonderkommando men at Auschwitz were the Jewish prisoners who had to carry the bodies out of the homicidal gas chambers, so they knew a gas chamber when they saw one.  They had to be fooled into entering a gas chamber, so that is why they were put into disinfection chambers.

Why not just shoot the the Sonderkommano men?  That would have been a foolish thing to do because it would have destroyed the whole gas chamber story.  The Holocaust is based on the belief that Jews were gassed in gas chambers. Those mean ole Nazis were gassing lice as fast as they could, trying to prevent the spread of typhus, but in spite of that, thousands of prisoners died of typhus in the Nazi camps.

The photo below shows a Degesh machine that was used to input the Zyklon-B gas into the disinfection chambers.  The Degesh machine was used at Dachau and these machines were also used at the main Auschwitz camp to disinfect the clothing.

Degesh machine used to input Zyklon-B gas into a disinfection chamber

Degesh machine used to input Zyklon-B gas into a disinfection chamber

A unopened can of Zyklon-B pellets was inserted into the Degesh machine, which automatically opened the can and poured the pellets into a basket, from which they could be retrieved.  The machine then blew hot air over the pellets so that the gas could be released.

There is ample proof that killing was done, using Zyklon-B in a room called a Gaskammer (gas chamber).  Killing lice counts, so don’t go denying that the Nazis used gas chambers.


  1. Now, if the Third Reich really wanted to gas on mass “undesirables”, why go thru all that trouble in crouded camps? There were already huge industrial gasschambers used in the railroad yard system, where railcars were routinely rolled in and fumigated. This technic is still used today, around the world. Also, the Third Reich were sticklers when it came to keeping records and making duplicates and sending reports, this is why the british all along knew the inmate and deathtoll numbers of all the camps during the war, they simply intercepted the coded cables with dailyreports. There numbers match the report from the International Red Cross and the later released “death books” returned by the Russian government. As it turns out more Christians died in the camp system than jews and the main cause of death was typhus. Imagine if they had the typhus vaccine? The germans could have saved at least 75% of those who died. It is truly sad that people did die in the camps, but what is more disgustingly sick, are those who have profited on the perpetual lie of the alleged killing of six million jews in these camps, and the resultant creation of the rogue apartheid state we know all to well as Israel. Germany is still occupied, still no constitution written and still no peacetreaty has been signed with her. Her “Victors” approved government is in fact a legal corporation today, which germans will pay war reparations yearly til the year 2099, for a war she never asked for nor instigated, but was forced upon her. Those victors of that war want to rule the world as they continue to rule the USA.

    Comment by -KITN- KittilsVogel — May 3, 2016 @ 12:54 pm

  2. But still, a number of reverent questions remain! (1) Why is this 6 million number still banded about, when the very camps themselves have periodically, over the years, reduced the numbers of the dead down, and down to; I think, to day is about 100,000 ish, an enormous reduction from 6 million, yet the mass media still keeps this old cart going! (2) Science, has show countless times it take about 1.5 hours minimum to burn an average human body, without the time, to post even, crushing of remaining bones to ash. Considering these camps only had between 15 and 20 ovens for this work at most, and did not have the size to accommodate 3 or 4 bodies as often claimed how on earth would they have mass murdered and disposed of 400, 500, 1000, or even 2000 bodies at a time. Just do the maths, the claims cannot hold water! (3) how did they move such large amounts of 90 to 120lb bodies from these chambers to the ovens. Have you ever attempted to move bodies like this over several meters ? I can tell you I have, when I was very fit and and young; I use to be a fireman, and sadly had to move burned or dead bodies on more than one occasion, it is not easy I can tell you. To move several hundred, would have needed 20 or 30 people working for 2 or 3 hours and they would have been completely screwed at the end of it. And they propose to have done this 2 or 3 times a day, who did they employ superman ? (3) the amount of coal needed to keep these furnaces going wold have been colossal, well into the several tones per-day, who was shoveling that in too. The burning bits, also scientifically do not water too, density of mass, as in number of bodies place in these pits, would have starved the base of oxygen thus they would have taken weeks and weeks to burn, and a nightmare to keep the flames going. The reality is in order to even contemplate such a vast undertaking such as these claims are, a small army would been required, and I mean 3, 4, 500 people to constantly work to even stand a remote chance to carry out the work needed. Sorry the story is making 2+2 =6 Also love the sign on the door saying gas chamber, what do you think many would have done as soon as they saw that ? PANIC!!!!

    Comment by iceman22Norm — March 27, 2016 @ 11:32 pm

  3. The guy who made the article – You lie by omission. You deliberately did not present a photo of a sign in Dachau for the tourists and visitors which says “Gas chamber NEVER USED AS A GAS CHAMBER”. That means that there were no gassings of people in Dachau. Can a woman who never behaved like a whore be a whore ?

    Comment by Stan Zorin — January 17, 2016 @ 12:59 am

  4. Rudolf Hoess voluntarily confessed to anything put in front of him after being whipped, beaten severely and prodded with an axe handle for several days to prevent him from sleeping. He was so enthusiastic to testify that he signed his confession in English, which he could not read.

    He said that with the methods used he would have testified to having killed many more than the three million if they had required it. Now the ‘official figure’ is only about one million.


    Comment by Rolf — January 9, 2016 @ 11:31 pm

  5. I think the problem here is how the webmaster states the question. It is not a question of whether there were gas chambers in any odd the camps, it is a question of whether there were gas chambers for humans. The gas chamber which is used for tours at Auschwitz has been shown to be insufficient for gassing, as well as the fact that the camp director has admitted on video tape that the portals for zyklon b were added after the war. The inner walls have also been tested for the presence of zyklon b which was found not to be present. There were of course small chambers used for the delousing of clothes, bedding etc but nobody has ever attempted to deny their presence that I’m aware of since the fact is that their size is insufficient for mass gassings. Unfortunately, though you have taken the picture of the door to the “gas chamber” you have angled the camera so as not to give a view of how small the inner chamber is. The other picture, which shows the outside of a door stained blue is really indicative of nothing. Any chamber so poorly sealed as to have the outside of the door stained by gas is useless as a gas chamber. The German war machine I’m aware of were fine engineers and not so slipshod and haphazard as to use an unsealable room with a wooden door, on a building with glass windows in it to to make a gas chamber of. If the outside of the door could be stained, anyone in the vicinity would be at risk from the gas residue.
    Frankly I think you have been very coy with your reply to a serious question asked improperly but earnestly by the web master. Yes, there were gas chambers for fumigation, but were any humans ever gassed in WW2 era Germany. The answer appears to be no.

    Comment by zigzzagz — September 5, 2015 @ 9:27 am

    • Maybe you must go and ask some of the survivors before making such remarks and look the movie evidence on you tube!! and read al the books. My uncle was there and clearly saw the evidence in the concentration camps himself. So many people died per day without any gun shots ? They definitely didn’t just fumigate clothes or stuff cause it was still the worst ever possible conditions in those concentration camps. How come so many people disappear on arrival at those HORRIFIC camps. Talk to Corrie Ten Boom, Diet Eman, all the other holocaust survivors and their children there are still alive before you come to such conclusions.
      Nazi Concentration Camps – Film shown at Nuremberg War Crimes Trials -
      Those Nazis were inhuman beings.

      Comment by jj — February 18, 2016 @ 12:02 am

      • This popular propaganda you spew has been proven time and time again as being a lie. No gas chambers for people were ever found by troops. I have spoken to many of them over the years who were there and liberated the camps. Nor was there ever any mention of such until well after the war and after the Americans built one as propaganda. Victors write the history the way they want it to read and Zionists just capitalized on the popular lies that many to this day still consider to be fact even though there is scientific proof as to those lies. I suppose you would dispute the fact that Zionists had an agreement to make the country of Israel prior to WW2 with the British Government? I suppose also that you feel that the indigenous population of Palestine was wrong in opposing the invasion of the Zionists. I also suppose that you think that the Palestine people kill more Jews in Israel Monthly than Jews kill of just Palestinian children monthly. But your belief doesn’t make it true or a fact. The facts are the history of the world we can prove scientifically and not just some ill founded rumor or popular belief.

        As for the people who died at prisoner of war camps or the condition they were found in its is universal in the realm of war. Prisoners die from disease especially if plague runs rampant through the camps. I bet if I showed you photos of Americans liberated in the Philippines or prisoners from Andersonville Ga after the civil war and some of the prisoners from the Nazi camps you would not be able to tell me which one was which. So now that we have you thinking about common sense let me ask you some simple questions…..1, If you had to make a choice between feeding the troops who were defending you from an invasion or feeding prisoners which one would you decide to give the food to? 2. If Plague ran through a population in which you lived and dead bodies were stacking up all over the place what would be the most efficient way to get rid of the bodies before they started producing even more disease? (even the germans started just digging big pits after a while because the ovens couldn’t keep up) 3. If you were a prisoner and were unjustly treated what would you say about your guards in order to get revenge?

        Now as for your thought that I am some sort of anti-Semite and such. The answer is no. I don’t give a dang about who decides to believe in one sort of fictional religion or another. Fact is that Religion has always been used in some form or another as a way to control the actions and development of societies, They all pray on mans fear and most over the years have adapted to maintain power and fortune over the masses. Every one of them says the same thing “we are right and you must follow or else some consequence will befall you”. I suppose you will dispute that fact too………Good luck in answering my common sense questions or finding any servicemen who have real photos of actual gas chambers set up for mass executions. I have had the fortune of interviewing hundreds of veterans who were there and none of them have ever been able to tell me that they saw one or have a photo of one despite there being hundreds of cameras that were there.

        People die in prisoner of war camps. They starve and die from disease. Its a horrible fact. Here is another fact you might not know there is documentation saying that 6 million jews would die in the war prior to the war from a jewish scholar and after the war that number was the popular figure even though the actual record prove that it was not even close to it. Also please look at the jewish census made just prior to the war and you might discover there weren’t even that many available. History is a fabulous tool for mankind to use so that we do not repeat the mistakes of the past but if it is not real history and rather popular propaganda what lesson did anyone learn?

        Comment by Patrick — May 21, 2016 @ 6:40 pm

  6. I have may snap shot pics from (and of the said gas chamber) my grandfather E.W. Peters who was with the 20th armord tank div. During the liberation of Dachau. (And one is of this gas chamber at dachau. Dachau was just out side Munich. In Germany.)

    Comment by Josh Baker — May 12, 2015 @ 11:02 am

  7. Comment by hermie — March 24, 2013 @ 10:59 am

    • Thanks for putting up this video. I wanted to use a photo of Germar Rudolf in my blog post, but I was too lazy to search for it. Germar broke into the disinfection buildings at Auschwitz and photos were taken of him. I am not sure, but he may have been the first person to point out the disinfection chambers. Look how young he is in the photo.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 24, 2013 @ 2:54 pm

  8. Comment by hermie — March 22, 2013 @ 6:22 pm

    • Thanks for the video. The first photo at the start of the video is from my website where I wrote the following about it: “The photo above shows the door through which visitors enter the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp. This door, which has a glass panel on the top, was originally the door into a washroom which is shown in the foreground. The room in the background of the photo is the “laying out room” which was used as an autopsy room when the gas chamber was originally used as a morgue. The victims entered the washroom and then proceeded into the gas chamber through another door which is no longer there. When the gas chamber was reconstructed by the Soviet Union in 1947, the washroom was included in the gas chamber.”

      However, the video is correct that tourists today are told that this was the door into the gas chamber. When I first visited Auschwitz in 1998, I entered through the door that was added when the morgue (aka gas chamber) was turned into a bomb shelter for the SS men. My tour guide told me that the door with the glass window was the back door of the gas chamber, and that an SS man stood outside the door ready to shoot anyone who broke the glass and tried to get out.

      I took the photo of the door in the video on my second trip to Auschwitz in 2005 when this was the entrance into the gas chamber for tourists. It is my understanding that tourists are now taken through the door that opens into the oven room and they enter the gas chamber from the oven room. This would have caused the victims to panic and go berserk if they had seen the ovens before going into what they thought was a shower room.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 23, 2013 @ 7:37 am

      • There has never been ONE autopsy that shows any Jew, Russian, Pole, American, British, French, ect. persons to have ever been gassed by the the Nazis,.Even “if” these were gas chambers,.They didn’t have close to the means of disposing of the millions of bodies that were presumed to have been killed by them,.They only had between 12 and 15 “one” person crematoriums in even the largest of concentration camps,.
        Of course you never hear about the soccer fields, the orchestras, the money, the cantinas, and the theaters that the concentration camps had,.and there is PROOF of those.You can’t even get paid money in American prisons,.But the Nazis paid the Jews in concentration camps and let them play organized soccer? Sounds really fishy

        Comment by MatthewMatt7248 — February 27, 2016 @ 12:00 am

    • Good for you. You were able to put your mind at easy by “Allegedly” proving a photo showing a poor excuse of a gas chamber, if in fact I is one. I hope that you do not want me to believe that this so called chamber, and others like it, were used to “allegedly” exterminate millions of JEWs during WW2. Millions not hundreds how convenient.

      Comment by Jamie — April 17, 2015 @ 6:43 am

  9. “Only lice were gassed at Auschwitz” – Louis Darquier, Commissioner for Jewish Affairs under the Vichy Régime, in 1978 (

    Comment by hermie — March 22, 2013 @ 6:16 pm

  10. Was the degesch machine used in all disinfection gas chambers ? I know that the Zyclon B crystals had to be heated for their cyanide to be released. The argument of the holy defenders of the faith is that the heat generated by the bodies compressed into the gas chamber was sufficient to raise the temperature so that the cyanide was given off without the need for the degesch. . This seems far fetched as I dont believe in the coldness of the central European winter this was possible.
    Are the degesch machines to be found still in the Auschwitz disinfection chambers ? Surely they would have been dismantled as the aim during the retreat would have been to remove everything that could be of use to the Soviets.

    Comment by Pete — March 22, 2013 @ 9:17 am

    • I don’t know if the Degesch machine was used in all the camps. In the camps that I have visited (Buchenwald, Mauthausen, Sachsenhausen, Dachau), the machines were only in Dachau. The machines might have been taken out of the other three camps by the Russians because these camps were in their zone after the war. The Russians took everything they could out of Germany, including the light bulbs. America had to hide stuff from the Russians so that they could bring it to America.

      The Degesch machines at the main Auschwitz camp were in the building that is now the Visitor’s Center. As far as I know, they are no longer there. The disinfection buildings at Birkenau, which are still in existence but off limits to visitors, did not use the Degesch machine. For 50 years, the Sauna building at Birkenau was kept locked up; this building was used for showers and also for disinfecting clothing in steam chambers and hot air chambers, instead of using Zyklon-B.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2013 @ 11:56 am

      • There must have been some apparatus in the Birkenau disinfection gas chambers to warm the Zyclon B as heating is necessary to produce the cyanide gas. If the machines were not removed by the Germans in 1945 they have been removed by the Soviets. The Red Army was notorious for looting and even took all the toilet cisterns back with them from Berlin in 1945!

        Comment by Pete — March 22, 2013 @ 2:46 pm

  11. FG.
    I first saw these chambers during June 1946 at Dachau, one of them was of particular interest to me as it was only about 4 feet in height and had an iron rail right through the centre from one door to the other and hanging on a coat hanger was on old greasy looking padded jacket, the type Russian soldiers did wear. I never accepted the statement by our driver James who took me there, and was often repeated by many: ‘These chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau concentration camp’. It is rather surprising that no picture is ever published showing the inside of these fumigation chambers. As an enquiring mind you should have seen this the same way as I did. The other point I would like to make is the warning under the skull and bones, which reads in German:
    Vorsicht Gas
    Nicht öffnen
    The translation: Caution Gas
    Danger to Life
    Do not open
    What is not seen in the picture, there were still the chalk marks visible against the word ‘zu’ (closed) and ‘Auf’ (open) giving the duration of the fumigation which was still written in the old Gothic Script, which very few German people are able to read any more To summertime, these are fumigation facilities and never used for homicidal purposes, but Gaskammern never the less!

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — March 21, 2013 @ 9:59 pm

    • There were four disinfection chambers at Dachau in June 1946, the same chambers that are still there. The old disinfection building, which was inside the camp, was not open to visitors since the former concentration camp was “War Crimes Enclosure No. 1” at that time. When I saw the four disinfection chambers in Dachau, for the first time in 1997, they were all alike. All had ceilings that were at least 8 feet high. All four of the disinfection chambers had an iron rod on which the clothing could be hung on hangers. I don’t think that there was ever a disinfection chamber that had a 4 foot ceiling. Maybe one of the chambers had two rods for hanging clothes, and one of the rods was 4 feet from the floor.

      When you saw the disinfection chambers in 1946, were you told that they were for disinfecting clothing, or were you told that these were gas chambers for killing the Jews?

      The “war criminals” in the “War Crimes Enclosure No. 1” at Dachau were all given a tour of Baracke X, the gas chamber building and told about the “gas chamber” that was used to kill Jews. Were you shown the shower room in Baracke X and told that it was a “gas chamber”?

      Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2013 @ 12:22 pm

      • FG.
        At the time when we made trips to Dachau from Allach in June 1946 there were no guides or guided tours. The place looked very much neglected. Only our American driver James Walters was trying to convince me, “as per official version”, that the the Nazis shoved Jews into these cubicles and gassed them, that’s why I pointed the low 4 feet chamber out to him, I am certain in my own mind that this was not used as a double function for fumigation, but I am open for correction.
        The only “exhibition” was the punishment block with an awful looking SS-mannequin beating an inmate, which a Pole had set up to show and tell GI’s of horror stories which he had experienced, but he had to remove this contraption later on as a “none factual” event. He had also placed a sign under a nearby oak tree (which is no longer there) as the Hanging Tree.
        Hermann Göring was also taken to the POW Camp at that time and I assume was shown Barrack X, see: which is in German but does not make it clear why he was taken there from Nürnberg.

        Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — March 22, 2013 @ 3:44 pm

    • Here is the braggart Herr Stolpmann once again trying to show off to the readers of SPBlog. He writes here: “I never accepted the statement by our driver James who took me there, and was often repeated by many: ‘These chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau concentration camp’. … As an enquiring mind you should have seen this the same way as I did.”

      But on his OWN BLOG in March 2011, he wrote : Then [driver James] got excited and furious to show me the gas chamber with the description BRAUSEBAD written above it. First of all I had a good look at the steel door, why a steel door? It was of the type that is used on battleships to create watertight compartments, it had rubber type seals around it very similar you have on fridges and two large handle bars for locking, you could not unlock this door from the inside. I went inside but not very far as I had the feeling of claustrophobia when James locked the door from the outside and it was completely dark no light of any kind and momentarily I was scared. At that time I did not think much about its purpose and the expression Holocaust was not in use. MY OWN OPINION NOW IS: THAT THE CHAMBER WAS INTENDED TO BE USED FOR HOMICIDAL PURPOSES BUT THE INSTALLATION WAS NEVER COMPLETED OR CONSIDERED IMPRACTICAL … and some internal changes were made to be altered at a later stage. Perhaps as a shower.”

      Here, and in his other comment below, Herbie is trying real hard to impress with common knowledge, to pass himself off as an expert among people he hopes don’t know much of anything at all. Like some of those bloggers FG writes about.:-)

      Comment by Carolyn Yeager — March 24, 2013 @ 1:47 pm

      • On August 13, 2011, Herbie posted this information about Dachau. It is, of course, not his first-hand experience, but what he found in records from the trials held there, which he calls “documents.” He says, “My narrative is based mainly on documents as well as books”


        Since 1938 corporal punishments in Dachau were carried out in the courtyard of the new Bunker on seven specially installed stakes which had hooks driven into them and prisoners tied onto them and beatings carried out. Since 1940 when these stakes were no longer sufficient the location was changed towards[outside sic] the prison bath (Häftlingsbad) were a crossbar held up by two support posts was erected . The crossbar had a number of hooks with a spacings of about 40-50 cm between them. This way you could torture now around 50 people at a time. The duration of the punishment lasted for one hour, in some exceptional cases even longer. The prisoner had his hands tied with a chain on the back and after stepping onto a footstool an SS man attached the chain to a hook and would kick the stool from under his feet. After the first initial excruciating pain the victim would slowly faint and fall into unconsciousness. The SS men then punched the prisoner in the face, or by pouring cold water over him to regain consciousness. The unnatural position with the upper arm twisted at the back restricted breathing and could after two hours lead to death. Unfortunately after an hour of this type of torture in most cases this resulted in long-term paralyzes of the hands and the shoulder blades.
        For serious offenses, the public beating was imposed. It was originally performed with a stick, and later with a (Ochsenziemer) leather strap(ox whip), and soaked in water.To ensure the “Delinquent” could not move was standing on a wooden block with his legs encased in a sort of box. After each beating the prisoner received a stay in the Bunker for a minimum of three days. Corporal punishment was imposed in each case by the Inspector of Concentration Camps, which at time was Schutzhaftlagerführer Egon Zell who since 1940 arbitrarily changed the methods in as much that he counted the lashings of two SS-man as one strike as well as other little quirks he had in mind. This was a typical example of how Himmlers orders were interpreted and cynically carried out to give the impression that procedures were strictly adhered to. The tortured victim in addition to this had to count in a loud voice the number of lashings he received, if he made a mistake, Zill gave the orders to start again. Should the prisoner faint during this procedure he was doused with a bucket of cold water and the whole process started again as soon as he became conscious.
        In the Punishment Block you had a number of prisoners which had the “Fluchtpunkt”(EscapeDot) a very visible red-white Target Marker sewn onto their chest, on their backs and on the trouser leg. This way those inmates that were accused or suspected of attempted escapes were clearly visible. For others it was sufficient that a prisoner overheard the signal for assembly and arrived too late, overlooked the weekly haircut or that he was caught contrary to standing orders only with his shirt on, or seen only in his underpants or worse still that he had used an outer garment while sleeping. These violations resulted in a minimum of 25 double lashings, 42 days in a darken cell of the Bunker, withholding of nourishments and subsequent transfer to the Punishment Block where Escape-Dot inmates were subjected to regular torture and chicaneries. Finally he could be sent onto a work detail were death was inevitable.

        Do you believe all this, Herbie? Or do you just love to pass on the lies that debase the reputation of the SS, like all good Jews do?

        Comment by Carolyn Yeager — March 24, 2013 @ 2:05 pm

        • I wrote about Egon Zill on my website at

          This quote is from that page of my website:

          Begin quote:
          Egon Zill had the title of Lagerführer in the Dachau camp, before being assigned to the job of Commandant of the Natzweiler camp; later he became the Commandant of Flossenbürg. He was put on trial by a German court in 1950 and sentenced to 15 years in prison; he returned to the town of Dachau to live after he completed his prison term and died there in 1974, according David L. Israel, author of the book “The Day the Thunderbird Cried, published by emek press in 2005.
          End quote

          Compare what I wrote to the information on Herb’s blog which I am quoting:

          Begin quote:
          Corporal punishment was imposed in each case by the Inspector of Concentration Camps, which at time was Schutzhaftlagerführer Egon Zell (sic) who since 1940 arbitrarily changed the methods in as much that he counted the lashings of two SS-man as one strike as well as other little quirks he had in mind. This was a typical example of how Himmlers orders were interpreted and cynically carried out to give the impression that procedures were strictly adhered to.
          End quote

          At the risk of tooting my own horn, I think that the information on my website is correct: Egon Zill was NOT the “Inspector of Concentration Camps.” Rather, he was a low level SS man at Dachau. He was NOT the Commandant of Dachau. I don’t think that Egon Zill had the authority to do anything on his own at Dachau.

          On the page of my website which I cited above, I quoted extensively from the book by David L. Israel, which I have read from cover to cover. I do not believe the information in this book. However, as a result of Israel’s book, Egon Zill has been demonized. If he was so bad, why wasn’t he put on trial by the American Military Tribunal immediately after the end of World War II?

          I have read extensively about Heinrich Himmler. He was a very mild-mannered man who did not tolerate abuse in the camps.

          Comment by furtherglory — March 24, 2013 @ 2:49 pm

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