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April 2, 2013

What is the name for the expulsion of ethnic Germans after World War II?

Filed under: Germany — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 7:24 am

The ethnic Germans, who were expelled from Czechoslovakia and Poland, after World War II, are called “expellees” but what is the name for everything that happened to them during the expulsion.

The Jews have a name for what happened to them during World War II; their suffering is called “the Holocaust.”  The Gypsies have a name for what happened to them; their mistreatment is called “the Porajmos” or literally “devouring or destruction.”

There is an expression for denial of what happened to the Jews: it is called “the Holocaust never happened.”  But how can one express denial of the expulsion of the Germans?  For example, fill in the blank:  “the ——– never happened.”  There are laws in 17 or 18 countries now that make it a crime to say “the Holocaust never happened.”  There should also be a law against saying “the ——– never happened.”

Every detail of the ——– should be a sacred belief that cannot be denied without being imprisoned for at least 5 years.  You can read some of the details of what happened to the ethnic Germans in Czechoslovakia here.

This quote is from the website cited above:

Soviet observers even reported to the Central Committee in Moscow that the Czechs “don’t kill them, but torment them like livestock.  The Czechs look at them like cattle” (Murashko and Noskova 1995, 235-7).  Czechoslovak military officers organized mass killings of German civilians.  Vojt chern”. Karol Ctibor Pazura, and BedYich Pokorn” ordered soldiers and militias to force ethnic Germans on death marches, and even to dig their own mass graves before being shot by firing squads without being prompted by resistance (Radio Praha #2). Sudeten Germans as young as 12 and 15 who were accused of escaping from internment camps were hanged or shot.  Over 750 civilians were executed at Postoloprty after preparing their own graves (Radio Praha #1).  Many civilians and soldiers attacked or killed German civilians at random, in some cases even stringing them by their heels onto trees and dousing them with gasoline before burning them to death (A H I).

One of the worst atrocities of the expulsion was the so-called Brno March (called the Brno death march by the Germans). The large German minority around the Moravian capital of Brno was escorted out of their homes with only an hour to prepare whatever they could carry before being marched over 50 km to the border of Austria.  Over 20,000 civilian families were marched by soldiers with almost no water, food or medicine.  Many were relegated to defecate or urinate whilst they walked because they could not leave the line.  Those who dissented were disciplined with rife butts and even whips.

Bodies of the dead and inform reportedly lay on the sides of the road (BBC Jolyon). Over 800 people died due to starvation, exersion , or dehydration (Benea 2002, 209)  Other scholars cite 1,700 dead in the Czech prison camps and at Brno (Glcasheim 2000, 470).  Many German nationalists exaggerate this dead and claim as many as 20,000 but this has thus far been disproven.  Many Czechs respond to the “death march” by saying that the number dead primarily consisted of the old and inform, and was the result of the lack of food that equally affected the Czechs themselves.  Another atrocity during the expulsions was the so-called Usti Massacre in August 1945, in which Sudeten German civilians were forced to wear white armbands and were marched to a bridge by the Elbe river.  Soldiers lined several families up against the edge and hurled them over the side after they were all shot, including according to some sources an infant.  Other inter-ethnic violence against Sudeten German civilians occurred across the country.  Some first-hand sources cite unarmed Germans being shot in groups of 30 or 40 at a time before being interred in mass graves, as corroborated with the reputable BBC (Wheeler).

I was inspired to write this by a comment on my blog.  The comment is quoted below:

I need clarification – you didn’t come right out and say that the Holocaust never took place. Do you honestly believe that it’s a lie? If yes, what reason could anyone possibly ever have for telling such a story if it weren’t true? All you have to do is look into the eyes of a Holocaust survivor as they tell you what happened to them, study their body language and you’ll see they’re telling the truth. Are you a qualified psychologist who can tell me otherwise? No? Here’s some advice for you: If you want to question the integrity of a well-established part of history than make sure you state the reason why you doubt it and ensure you have evidence that contradicts it. Without evidence, your theory is without merit or logic.

If I question or dispute any detail of the Holocaust, I am accused to denying the Holocaust or “saying the Holocaust never took place.”  There is no defense to the accusation of saying “the Holocaust never took place.”  What does the expression “the Holocaust never took place” even mean?

This quote is about what happened to the ethnic Germans after World War II.  You can believe this or not; it is not required by law to believe the following:

The later stages of World War II, and the period after the end of that war, saw the forced migration of millions of German nationals (Reichsdeutsche) regardless of ethnicity, and ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) regardless of which citizenship, from various European states and territories, mostly into the areas which would become post-war Germany and post-war Austria. These areas of expulsion included pre-war German provinces which were transferred to Poland and the Soviet Union after the war, as well as areas which Nazi Germany had annexed or occupied in pre-war Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, northern Yugoslavia and other states of Central and Eastern Europe.

The movement of Germans involved a total of at least 12 million people, with some sources putting the figure at 14 million, and was the largest movement or transfer of any population in modern European history. The largest numbers came from the former eastern territories of Germany acquired by Poland and the Soviet Union (about 7 million) and from Czechoslovakia (about 3 million). It was also the largest among all the post-war expulsions in Central and Eastern Europe, which displaced more than twenty million people in total. The events have been variously described as population transfer, ethnic cleansing or genocide.

The death toll attributable to the flight and expulsions is disputed, with estimates ranging from 500,000 to 2 million; more recent estimates are close to the lower 500,000 figure.

The policy was part of the geopolitical and ethnic reconfiguration of postwar Europe; in part spoils of war, in part political changes in Europe following the war and in part recompense for atrocities and ethnic cleansings that had occurred during the war.

After the Dachau camp was liberated, ethnic Germans who had been expelled from Czechoslovakia lived in the barracks for the next 17 years.  Tour guides at Dachau do not tell visitors about the suffering of the ethnic Germans which is called ——.


  1. Seit über 2000 Jahren haben die „Juden“ die ganze Welt im Griff:
    Juden (Mörder wie Moses, Kain, David, etc.) => Christen => Muslime => Protestanten => Kapitalisten => Kommunisten-Marxisten => Nazis => Hollywood => Anthroposophen => Atombomben (Teller, Oppenheimer, Kim Jong Un).
    Wann hört endlich dieser wahnsinnige beschnitten-traumatisierte Blödsinn überall auf???
    Die einzige gute „Religion“ ist der Schamanismus: der ist zwar auch genetisch bedingt, aber er kann NICHT sozial GELERNT werden.

    Comment by Apocalypse 2012 Moon God — April 9, 2013 @ 3:56 am

  2. Any normal society would have constructed a memorial to the 15 million victims of the allied expulsions. In Berlin one can trip over the thousands of memorials to “Holocaust” victims ,and the Holocaust memorial has a prime place of 4 acres next to the Reichstag building.
    Still it is what you expect if you have had 70 years of re education to ensure you feel constant shame and guilt.

    Comment by pete — April 2, 2013 @ 2:21 pm

    • Pete
      In a recent televised public discussion regarding the expulsion of Germans from Poland after 1945, which was chaired by the then SPD Foreign Minister and the matter of compensation for loss of property, let alone the annexation of almost one third of German homeland, (I come from there what we called ours for over 700 years) he replied, that he was in full agreement with his Polish counterpart to erect a memorial to which both sides would contribute. As expected he was shouted down and the meeting ended in disarray. The relationship with Poland will always be ‘frosty’ although the present Prime-minister is of Kaschubian descent, at the time when those twins ruled Poland, for them WW II had never ended.
      One more note, Hungary did in fact erect out of their own imitative a memorial.

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — April 2, 2013 @ 7:53 pm

  3. The horrors infllcted on ethnic Germans in Czechoslovakia and Poland after WW2 were a direct result of the atrocity mongering, holocaust propaganda which continues today, that had been promoted by the Allies especially after the so-called “liberation” of German concentration camps. The horrors evident there were the direct result of Anglo-American terror bombing of German civilian targets. Those camps were, however, falsely portrayed as part of a program, which in fact never existed, to exterminate countless millions of non-Germans–even far beyond the 11 million that suposedly were exterminated but were in fact, NOT exterminated at all. All Germans were blamed. If the German program had been to exterminate people, there would have been no need for concentration camps whose real purpose was to keep people secure but alive and healthy.

    Even long before the end of the war, Germans as a people were portrayed as a murderously violent (by virtue of some racial, genetic and/or cultural defects) who would start another war of mass extermination as soon as they could after WW2. The logical conclusion for many if not most non-Germans, was to exterminate as many Germans as possible to help perevent WW3 and even more deaths..

    If the Allies and victors of WW2 had really wanted to find real genocidal maniacs, they could have done that so easily. They had only to look into any mirror.

    The holocaust hoax really is a hoax because there was was no deliberate mass extermination of Jews or anyone else by the Nazis either with or without gas chambers. The HOLOCAUST n-e-v-e-r happened! Wake up. morons!

    Friedrich Paul Berg
    Learn evverything at
    Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — April 2, 2013 @ 9:10 am

  4. Where did I recently read about the eyes being gouged out of very young German children in Czechia?

    Comment by fnn — April 2, 2013 @ 8:37 am

    • wherever that was, check the credibility of the source, if any. Also, Czech Republic.

      Comment by juli.o — April 2, 2013 @ 10:50 am

  5. I’m at the biggest university in Brno right now, never having heard about the Brno march in my life. This is surreal. Would a Czech in Prague say “I don’t know what is Terezin [Theresienstadt]”, he’d be dealt with very differently.

    Comment by J. — April 2, 2013 @ 7:55 am

    • FG
      The German word for expulsion is: ‘VERTREIBUNG’, which was generally not used, those that arrived from the East and Sudentenland were normally called ‘Flüchtlinge’ (plural for Refugees)) and had to be integrated in most western parts and certainly not welcomed with open arms. France during the Potsdam Agreement did veto the method of expulsion, nor did they except any refugees into their zone. Those families that lived in the Dachau concentration camp after the liberation converted to an extent their allocated living space in neat and tidy accommodations, I had friends there. They lived admittedly cramped, but they appreciated a roof over their head, all of them had jobs and lived there cheap and within reasonable comfort.

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — April 2, 2013 @ 4:49 pm

      • ok cool herby, so where are we complaining about if they/we had neat clean cheap housing.
        herb do you now and then feel anything like compassion for the suffering of our own kind or do you always have to downplay it?

        Comment by wolf — April 5, 2013 @ 1:13 pm

        • Wolf
          I have no intention to downplay the suffering we all went through it after 1945 and survived due to the sheer determination to rebuild and proud to be German!

          Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — April 9, 2013 @ 9:01 pm

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