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May 21, 2013

Did Adolf Eichmann set up the Theresienstadt ghetto? I don’t think so.

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 5:39 am

Claude Lanzmann’s new documentary film, featuring Benjamin Murmelstein and the Theresienstadt ghetto, has been getting a lot of ink in the press lately.

This quote is from an article which you can read in full here:

For three and a half hours, the viewer [of Lanzmann’s documentary] is taken through an exploration of Benjamin Murmelstein, the last president of the Jewish Council in the “model ghetto” of Theresienstadt in Nazi-annexed Czechoslovakia.

Set up by SS colonel Adolf Eichmann as a bogus town run by Jews themselves – a Potemkin village designed to dupe the world – Theresienstadt was one of the grimmest chapters in the long record of Nazi atrocities.

Theresienstadt was not in “Nazi-annexed Czechoslovakia” at that time; it was in the German protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.  You can read all about Theresienstadt on my website here.

According to Wikipedia, Adolf Eichmann “was a German Nazi SS-Obersturmbannführer (lieutenant colonel) and one of the major organizers of the Holocaust. Because of his organizational talents and ideological reliability, Eichmann was charged by SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich with the task of facilitating and managing the logistics of mass deportation of Jews to ghettos and extermination camps in German-occupied Eastern Europe.”

Nowhere on the Wikipedia page does it say that Eichmann SET UP the Theresienstadt ghetto.  He might have been in charge of the transports to and from Theresienstadt, but he did not have the authority to set up a ghetto or anything else.  Eichmann was “small potatoes,” not important enough to be in charge of setting up camps or ghettos.

This quote from the news article also resonated with me:

Murmelstein’s recollections, said Lanzmann, are doubly precious, as they prompt a new interpretation of Eichmann, who was kidnapped by Mossad agents in Argentina and hauled to Israel for trial, culminating in his execution in 1962. […]

If Eichmann was “small potatoes,” why did the Mossad go to the trouble of kidnapping him and taking him to Israel?  I think it was because Eichmann was the one who wrote the minutes of the Wannsee Conference where the genocide of the Jews was allegedly planned.

The Israelis wanted Eichmann to admit that he left out the part of the Conference where the men talked about killing the Jews, not “transporting them to the East,” as Eichmann wrote in the minutes.

Eichmann at his trial in Israel

Eichmann at his trial in Israel

During his trial in Jerusalem, Eichmann testified as follows during session 107 on July 24, 1961:

What I know is that the gentlemen convened their session, and then in very plain terms – not in the language that I had to use in the minutes, but in absolutely blunt terms – they addressed the issue, with no mincing of words. And my memory of all this would be doubtful, were it not for the fact that I distinctly recall saying to myself at the time, Look, just look at Stuckart, the perpetual law-abiding bureaucrat, always punctilious and fussy, and now what a different tone! The language was anything but in conformity with the legal protocol of clause and paragraph. I should add that this is the only thing from the conference that still has stayed clearly in my mind.

When the Presiding Judge asked Eichmann what Stuckart had said “in general” “on this topic,” Eichmann answered, “The discussion covered killing, elimination, and annihilation.”

On the basis of Eichmann’s testimony, it is now accepted that the minutes of the Wannsee conference were written with euphemisms, instead of the actual words used at the conference.

11 Comments

  1. It seems all political. Do people really care about this part of our history or are they trying to beat down a certain group of people ( Krauts). It was Dresden we bombed the hell out of? 25,000 plus people. What was the strategic value? It was just everyday citizens,right? I love my country. Served in the military,but bombing innocent civilians is murder. How come nobody was ever charged with that? Like we would say,”kill em all,let God sort em out”. Before I found this site,I believed everything the Jews said. Now I’ve seen so much conflicting information coming from them. 6 million Hebs killed. Then awhile back they correct the number. 4 million. Even though they publish the new number,they still run around with 6 million. WTF ! That’s why I said,”seems to be too many lies coming from the Jews “.

    Comment by Tim — February 8, 2016 @ 11:24 am

  2. Interesting comment here…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17761717

    “Football was very important in Theresienstadt – there was a game every week and thousands of people came. Even the SS men were there in civilian clothes. They liked it too.”

    The SS were there in civilian clothing? So the Jews mingled freely with people who at some point in the near future would kill them? And the SS weren’t afraid? Strange……

    Comment by DB — May 22, 2013 @ 12:14 pm

    • The SS wore allway uniform. An Aryan wearing civilian clothes did not wear the Jellow Star. So Jews could in no way mingle with Nazis.

      Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — February 12, 2016 @ 2:18 am

  3. Theresienstadt was the camp where all the Jewish middle class and professionals were sent to avoid problems with international agencies . Nobody wore “stripey uniforms ” and of the 500 Danish Jews sent there in WW2 ie the ones who didn’t cross over to Sweden 95% survived the war and about 50 died in Theresienstadt of natural causes.Life there was fairly relaxed and ironically if Anne Franks father had not hidden the family in 1942 this is where they would have been sent and the blessed Anne would today have been a very elderly lady in a Florida old folks home instead of the cult figure of Holocaustiality.

    Comment by peter — May 21, 2013 @ 5:04 pm

    • In the event of deportation through Westerbrook to Theresienstadt the Franks would have sent to Auschwitz in the October 1944 transport vawe. Indeed they did not belong to any “protected group”.

      Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — February 12, 2016 @ 2:26 am

  4. The German propaganda movie on Theresienstadt:

    My opinion is that Theresienstadt was not used by the Nazis to hide the alleged “Holocaust” as said today but to show the Germans what the Nazis had planned for Europe’s jews after WW2 – an autonomous life in a separated area. Theresienstadt was a showcase for a kind of “Nazi Zion”. Theresienstadt was similar to a pre-Israël…with no Arabs killed or forced to live under the jewish boot. Seeing that time’s Theresienstadt makes me think about the German Zionist camps where jews came to learn farm works and other manual jobs in order to be able to survive on their own in Palestine. That was in the 1930’s, before the Nazis interrupted their collaboration with Germany’s Zionists, but I see in Theresienstadt a continuation a the Nazi policy towards jews – no jews in the Reich and then in Europe (after WW2 started) and an isolation of the jewish people for everybody’s sake. That’s what Hitler had announced on January 30, 1939 in case of a new world war. That’s what he meant when he spoke about “the annihilation of the jewish race in Europe” on that day. No surprise. No shot change. Theresienstadt was what jewish life would have looked like in the new jewish homeland established after WW2 in case of German victory. Would that new jewish homeland have been located in Madagascar as first planned? Would it have been located somewhere in the defeated Soviet Union? Would it have been somewhere else? Nobody knows, but it can be said for sure it wouldn’t have been in Palestine.

    Comment by hermie — May 21, 2013 @ 4:49 pm

    • Too bad the Jews couldn’t sneak a movie camera into the Theresienstadt camp and make a documentary on what it was REALLY like in the camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 22, 2013 @ 7:50 am

      • Probably one of the few moments in movie history when some jews were not carrying a movie camera and telling their distorted version of events. 😉

        Anyway if that hypothetical jewish movie had depicted a pleasant life at Theresienstadt, that time’s zionist propagandists would have said that Theresienstadt was just a showcase intended to hide the horrible genocide of European Jews by steam, electricity and air bubbles.

        Comment by hermie — May 22, 2013 @ 3:14 pm

  5. FG.
    You might find that it was Siegfried Seidl who was responsible for Thersianstadt.In late 1939, Seidl was called into the police as a result of his SS membership. As of January 1940, he was attached to the SS-Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA) – Department IVB4 under Adolf Eichmann’s command – and posted to the SS lead section in Posen. On 30 October 1941 Seidl was charged by Adolf Eichmann with establishing the Theresienstadt concentration camp.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Seidl

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — May 21, 2013 @ 4:15 pm

    • Siegfried Seidl was the first Commandant of Theresienstadt. Wikipedia gives the title of a book as the source of the statement that Seidl “was charged by Adolf Eichmann with establishing the Theresienstadt concentration camp.” I don’t think that this could be interpreted as Adolf Eichmann being the man who “set up” the Theresienstadt camp. The first Commandant of a camp was not the person who “established” the camp. Neither Seidl, nor Eichmann, had the authority to set up a camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 22, 2013 @ 6:41 am

      • FURTHERGLORY. Following these discussions I believe that the establishment of the Show Ghetto THERESIENSTADT had been part so of the Heydirich policy in the Protectorate as to the propaganda in the Reich Eichmann collected money by “booking” places in Homes for Elderly Jeww at Theresienbad – Theresienstadt is near Karlsbad and Marienbad. Then a Jews holding miilitary decorations having been officers in WWI so in Germany as Austria, Jews with good connections so in the Third Reich as abroad could not easily sent to … ; they had to be placed near the Reich border and enabled to answer letters or so. The widow of SA General – shot in the June 30 1934 slaughter – August Schneidhubber had been sent to Theresienstadt; the same wives of mens belonging to the Aristocracy forced to divorce. And remember that Jew had been “of Jewish race” and not religion.
        At any rate Theresienstadt had been the only Ghetto under the authority of Eichmann.
        Benjamin Murmelstein had been the last Elder. The last Chairman of the Council had been Rabbi Leo Baeck, officially Deputy Elder.
        I note that even nowadays – as the reviews of the Lanzmann Film show – the evidence of Benjamin Murmelstein does not really interest so the Establishment as the Shoah business divisions.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — February 12, 2016 @ 2:56 am


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