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November 4, 2013

A working definition of the new rules regarding Holocaust denial and Holocaust distortion

A news article from Canada, which you can read in full here, clarifies the new rules regarding what you can say about the Holocaust without fear of going to prison for 5 years.

This quote is from the news article:

Forms of Holocaust denial also include blaming the Jews for either exaggerating or creating the Shoah for political or financial gain as if the Shoah itself was the result of a conspiracy plotted by the Jews. 

Are there any Holocaust survivors out there, exaggerating or writing books for financial gain?  No, of course not.  Elie Wiesel hasn’t made a penny off his exaggerated Holocaust claims. Neither has Eva Kor, nor Irene Zisblatt.

This quote is also from the news article:

Holocaust denial may include publicly denying or calling into doubt the use of principal mechanisms of destruction (such as gas chambers, mass shooting, starvation and torture) or the intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people.

Why would anyone ever doubt the gas chambers?  Every one of the gas chambers, used by the Nazis in the genocide of the Jews, was obviously a working gas chamber, air tight, with a 40 foot vent pipe on the roof, a means of heating the Zyklon-B pellets to 78.3 degrees, and a means of dropping the Zyklon-B pellets into the room — NOT!!!

You can see photos of the Nazi gas chambers on a previous blog post here.

Gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

Gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

The photo above shows a real gas chamber, and don’t you deny it, unless you want to go to prison for 5 years.

Note that the gas chamber is explosion proof, with no hot ovens next door — NOT!!!  Note the wooden door in the background, which made the room air tight — NOT!!!  Note the light fixtures, which are explosion proof — NOT!!! (The wooden door had been added when the room was converted into an air raid shelter by the Germans in 1943.)

This quote is from Fred Leuchter, a gas chamber expert, who says that the alleged gas chambers were not workable:

4. Construction [of the Nazi gas chambers]
Construction of these facilities shows that they were never used as gas chambers. None of these facilities were sealed or gasketed. No provision was ever made to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floor or ceiling. No provision ever existed to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings. No provision ever existed to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chamber. No explosion-proof lighting existed and no attempt was ever made to prevent gas from entering the crematories, even though the gas is highly explosive. No attempt was made to protect operating personnel from exposure to the gas or to protect other non-participating persons from exposure. Specifically, at Auschwitz, a floor drain in the alleged gas chamber was connected directly to the camp’s storm drain system. At Majdanek a depressed walkway around the alleged gas chambers would have collected gas seepage and resulted in a death trap for camp personnel. No exhaust stacks ever existed. Hydrogen cyanide gas is an extremely dangerous and lethal gas, and nowhere were there any provisions to effect any amount of safe handling. The chambers were too small to accommodate more than a small fraction of the alleged numbers. Plain and simple, these facilities could not have operated as execution gas chambers.

Note that Leuchter mentioned “a floor drain in the alleged gas chamber.”  The floor drain was actually in another room, which had a door with a glass window in it, that was added to the Auschwitz gas chamber by the Soviet Union when they reconstructed the Auschwitz gas chamber. At the time that Leuchter examined the gas chamber, the staff at Auschwitz was claiming that the gas chamber was original. Tour guides were claiming that the gas chamber included the room that has the door with a glass window and the floor drain.

I blogged about the floor drain in the Auschwitz gas chamber here.

I was first called a “Holocaust denier” when I pointed out the floor drains in the Dachau gas chamber here.

This quote is at the beginning of the news article about Holocaust denial:

“A Working Definition of Holocaust Denial and Distortion” – The present definition is an expression of the awareness that Holocaust denial and distortion have to be challenged and denounced nationally and internationally and need examination at a global level. IHRA adopted the following working definition of holocaust denial and distortion:

Holocaust denial is discourse and propaganda that deny the historical reality and the extent of the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis and their accomplices during World War II, known as the Holocaust or the Shoah. Holocaust denial refers specifically to any attempt to claim that the Holocaust or Shoah did not take place.

So what does this mean?  At the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal, where the Nazis were put on trial after the war, the Soviet Union claimed that 4 million people had been killed at Auschwitz, and 1.5 million were killed at Majdanek.  Now the ESTIMATE of the number of Jews killed at Auschwitz is 900,000, and the records at Majdanek show that 59,000 Jews died at Majdanek.  Which figures are we required to believe, under the new definition of Holocaust denial?

I am going to go with 4 million at Auschwitz and 1.5 million at Majdanek, because this adds up to 5.5 million, a figure that is close to the 6 million that is the required belief.    The figures of 900,000 and 59,000 add up to less than  1 million.  Where did the other 5 million Jews die?

This quote from the news article explains “Holocaust distortion,” the new form of Holocaust denial:

What is Holocaust distortion?

Distortion of the Holocaust refers to:

a. Intentional efforts to excuse or minimize the impact of the Holocaust or its principal elements, including collaborators and allies of Nazi Germany;

b. Gross minimization of the number of the victims of the Holocaust in contradiction to reliable sources;

c. Attempts to blame the Jews for causing their own genocide;

d. Statements that cast the Holocaust as a positive historical event. Those statements are not Holocaust denial but are closely connected to it as a radical form of anti-Semitism. They may suggest that the Holocaust did not go far enough in accomplishing its goal of “the Final Solution of the Jewish Question”;

e. Attempts to blur the responsibility for the establishment of concentration and death camps devised and operated by Nazi Germany by putting blame on other nations or ethnic groups.

The last definition is a tricky one: Is it a crime to say that America had internment camps for “enemies of the state”?  I would go with “Nazi Germany was the only country that put people in camps during Word War II.”  Definitely, I would go with saying that Italy had no camps, because that would “blur the responsibility for the establishment of concentration and death camps” by Nazi Germany.

In my opinion, the new definition of Holocaust denial needs some explicit details, regarding what we are required to believe.  For example, are we required to believe that the Nazis marched Jews out of the camps for the purpose of killing them by marching?

Are we required to believe that Ohrdruf, a sub-camp of Buchenwald, was a “holding camp” for prisoners waiting to be gassed in the gas chamber at Buchenwald?

Holocaust denial began when Paul Rassinier, “the father of Holocaust denial,” denied that there was a gas chamber at Buchenwald.  Do we have to go back to the days when it was required to believe that there was a gas chamber at Buchenwald?

To be on the safe side, I would go with a “gas chamber at Buchenwald.”  After all, Elie Wiesel, who claims that he was a prisoner at Buchenwald, although he has no Buchenwald ID number, says that he was saved from the gas chamber at Buchenwald, just in the nick of time.

12 Comments »

  1. The alleged bankers plot must refer to the rothshilds. They are the elders of zion or judeafreemasons. The bankers Schiff and Warburg were also alleged to have been involved in the fedl reserve , The first world war and the bolshevik revolution. Philip Graves was a descendant of a jew as wiki page shows. They also created the jehovahs witnesses and macys and the salvation army as part of the war on xmas. look up Moses Hess third father of communism. look up iwma a marxist front. macys hollywood heineken and red army all use the red star And salvation army a red shield. Consult the book of exodus 12 7 for the sign of blood on the doorframe to signify the chosen. See bellamy the Christian socialist Yahweh’s willing deception..

    Comment by bb — November 24, 2013 @ 8:07 pm

  2. According to the Überzionist History distorter Deborah Lipstadt, that definition is too restrictive.

    [quote]

    You, too, could be a Holocaust Denier! (http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/holocaust/denier.htm)

    As quite a few of us now understand, the “history making events” of the 20th century occurred as the result of a secret program of internationalist interests to acquire global control, a monstrous undertaking which may fittingly be described as the ultimate in diabolical social engineering – we might say social engineering of cataclysmic proportions.

    For such a deception to succeed, the truth about its hidden origins must be not merely concealed, but must be eradicated altogether, and not merely from the history books, but from the minds of people as well. There must be nothing remaining of this truth. Everything is at stake for those who impose this deception. If the tide turns against them, their social engineering monstrosity will fail.

    […]

    Many people mistakenly believe that Lipstadt and others who purport to be fighting “Holocaust denial” are only concerned with preventing public debate about the historical details relating to the subject of what we remember as “the Holocaust.” This is not the case at all. In fact, according to Lipstadt, if you believe, as Revisionist historians do, that:

    _____ The seeds of World War II were planted in the unjust treatment dealt Germany following World War I, you are a “Holocaust denier.”

    _____ Adolf Hitler did not want to go to war with Poland in 1939, you are a “Holocaust denier.”

    _____ Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were secretly maneuvering to bring the United States into the war in Europe despite the opposition of some 90 percent of the American public at the time, you are a “Holocaust denier.”

    _____ FDR set the stage for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor to force the United States into the war against the Axis powers, you are a “Holocaust denier.”

    Lipstadt says, within these historical views, outlined in 1952 in Georgetown University historian Charles Callan Tansill’s monumental Revisionist study “Back Door to War” – which does not address the question of whether or not Nazi Germany killed six million Jews – are “a number of arguments that would become essential elements of holocaust denial.”

    [end quote]

    The Jew-owned democracies – the driving forces of the globalistic Jew World Order – are all built on the lies about WW2 in general, not only on the Zionist Holohoax, even if the latter is the cornerstone of that deceitful construction. Deconstructing just one stone of the monument of lies sustaining the Jew World Order edifice threatens the whole structure. That’s why ALL the laughable lies sanctified by the Victors of 1945 at Nuremberg are repeated on and on and defended with so much energy by the guards of the globalistic Jew World Order edifice. Putting all the ‘civilized’ countries under the grip of the globalistic Jews was an essential step to the Jew World Order lead by a World Government (http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2011/09/league-of-nations-is-jewish-idea.html) and it had been decided upon years before Hitler allegedly started to exterminate Europe’s Jews (http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/831b6fd903832d84722ece0bd896c5af.jpg). The Holohoax and the other lies about WW2 came later, as parts of the Allied war propaganda, in order to legitimize the planned suppression of the Gentile nations. Only when the Jew World Order will be achieved, the Jewish Messiah will come, according to the talmudic prophecies which the globalistic JWO planners believe in.

    “The progress of modern civilization has come to be regarded as a sort of modern Messiah for the final solution of the Jewish problem.” – Zionist Nahum Sokolow, History of Zionism, 1919

    “The League of Nations (i.e. pre-UN, World Government embryo) is a Jewish idea, and Jerusalem some day will become the capital of the world’s peace,” – Zionist Nahum Sokolow, 1922 Zionist conference.

    Comment by hermie — November 5, 2013 @ 7:53 am

    • This quote is from the last paragraph: “So don’t kid yourself. Even if you have never raised any questions about “the Holocaust” per se, you are still subject to being smeared as a “Holocaust denier” if, by chance, you dare to run counter to the politically correct stance dictated by those who decide what one may – or may not – say about events of history including, but not limited to, the Holocaust.”

      I believe everything in the list of history events, so that makes me a Holocaust denier, according to Lipstadt. I wrote a blog post about Lipstadt at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/deborah-lipstadt/

      Comment by furtherglory — November 5, 2013 @ 8:15 am

  3. Doesn’t the package insert for Zyklon B say, “Danger of explosion: 75 grams of HCN in 1 cubic meter of air. Normal application approx. 8-10 g per cubic meter, therefore not explosive”? (The Degesch manual is also known as Nuremburg document NI-9912.) Source: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/cyanide/cyanide.001

    Comment by Raquel Baranow — November 5, 2013 @ 7:10 am

  4. A little background information on Eugen Kogon http://www.whale.to/b/eugen_kogon.html and the the U.S. Army intelligence officer Albert G. Rosenberg http://www.whale.to/b/rosenberg_h.html who helped him write his “outstanding” work” DER SS STAAT.

    Comment by who dares wings — November 5, 2013 @ 2:46 am

  5. And what about the new definition of Terrorism?

    Comment by Eager For Answers — November 4, 2013 @ 5:30 pm

  6. As a Holocaust survivor and amateur historian I see all these definitions of HOLOCAUST DENIAL as really cumbersome and only meant to have lawyers working and earning in endless and useless debate in Courts. In my view the denial of Holocaust as carried on by Nazi Germani, allied states and collaborators in counties under german occupation is an incitement of hatred against Jewish People; not less. Refering to Gas Chambers in Terezin the Eichann Staff started in January 1945 the building of that “device” but works had been hlated a month later of order of German State Minister and SS High Comander for Bohemia.Moravia Protectorate Karl Hermann Frank who wanted to use the Ghetto for his attempts to negotiate with Allied Comander. As to Bcuenwald I will check what stated by Eugen Kogon in his outstanding work DER SS STAAT. Please be assured that my late Father and myself did not got profit from writing or interviews for films or papers. .

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — November 4, 2013 @ 2:12 pm

    • Wolf Murmelstein wrote: “Refering to Gas Chambers in Terezin the Eichann Staff started in January 1945 the building of that “device” but works had been halted a month later of order of German State Minister and SS High Comander for Bohemia.Moravia Protectorate Karl Hermann Frank who wanted to use the Ghetto for his attempts to negotiate with Allied Comander.”

      Drilling four holes in a roof as in Auschwitz. So complicated and long to do. How much time would the Nazis have really needed to achieve that sophisticated “device”? One day? Two hours? Only One?

      That propadandistic “device” was blatantly born in the brain of some uneducated Zionist Eastern Jews who had probably never seen a light bulb or a real shower in their whole life, not in the brain of any scientist of “the country of engineering”.

      Comment by hermie — November 5, 2013 @ 8:14 am

    • I myself can not fathom how these people can deny something with that much overwhelming evidence. But then I had a my Grandfather and grandmother who came over in the early 1920’s from Germany, My grandfather lost all his family in Czechoslovakia when the Germans over ran the the country, they were all marched off to camps, not one survived. On my Grandmothers side, only her sister survived. It is a sad thing when there were 18 children and 4 parents with both families and all that survived were two sisters and one of the son’s on the other side, and that was because they left before this shameful hatred took their lives. My grandfather (my mother’s father) refused to talk about it or his loss, my grandmother either. But my aunt, I remember her showing me the marks on her arm that showed her number, all she did was tear up when she tried to talk about it. Sadly, today you have people trying to deny it, thinking this will make it go away.

      Comment by Timothy Benton — March 22, 2014 @ 10:02 am


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