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March 10, 2014

20 million people killed by the Nazis, according to the USHMM

A reader of my blog recently stated this in a comment:  “There were over 20 million people who were killed in total by Nazi atrocities from the 1930s until Germany’s surrender.  That does not  include casualties of the various allied and Soviet armies.”

This was news to me, but I wouldn’t put anything past those evil Nazis.

I was curious about where the figure of 20 million came from, so I did a google search and found this news article at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/9906771/Nazis-may-have-killed-up-to-20m-claims-shocking-new-Holocaust-study.html

A photo of the Arbeit Macht Frei gate at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp was included in the article.  I have copied the photo, along with the caption, which you can see below.

 Washington's Holocaust Memorial Museum found that Auschwitz and the Warsaw Ghetto were just part of a extensive network that imprisoned and obliterated millions of lives Photo: AP


Washington’s Holocaust Memorial Museum found that Auschwitz and the Warsaw Ghetto were just part of a extensive network that imprisoned and obliterated millions of lives Photo: AP

The official name of “Washington’s Holocaust Memorial Museum” is United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM).  I visited the USHMM several years ago, and wrote about it on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/USHMM/

I do not consider the USHMM to be a reliable source of information, but that’s just me; others might have a different opinion.

I don’t think that a photo of the gate into the Sachsenhausen concentration camp is appropriate for an article about 20 million people being killed.  Sachsenhausen was a Class 1 camp for political prisoners, not a death camp.

You can read about the significance of the Arbeit Macht Frei gate on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Auschwitz/Auschwitz12.html

The Soviets, who liberated the Sachsenhausen camp, claimed that Sachsenhausen was a death camp and that 100,000 people had been killed there.  Now that figure has been officially reduced to 30,000 deaths.  Did the USHMM subtract those 70,000 deaths from the 20 million total?

I took the photo below, on  my visit to the Sachsenhausen camp.  It shows the gate into the camp.  That’s how I know that the photo, which was shown in the article, was taken at Sachsenhausen.  The Arbeit Macht Frei sign was only put on Class I camps, where prisoners had a good chance of being released.

My photo of the gate into the Sachsenhausen camp

My photo of the gate into the Sachsenhausen camp

This quote is from the article cited above:

The millions disappeared into a Nazi imprisonment and killing machine that covered a bloody swathe of Europe and appears to have been far more deadly than has been thought.

Up until now, the Holocaust is thought to have consumed between five and six million Jews, with an estimated further six million other people also murdered by the Nazi regime.

The new figures of 15 to 20 million, which have astonished some Holocaust historians, come after thirteen years of painstaking study at Washington’s Holocaust Memorial Museum. Historians at the museum brought together and studied the huge amount, and often disparate, files and research on the Holocaust.

The research covered some 42,400 camps and ghettos across Europe, and also included forced-labour camps and Nazi “care” centres where pregnant women were forced to have an abortion or had their child killed right after giving birth. It also drew in camps, prisons and killing grounds used by Nazi puppet regimes in countries such as France and Romania.

The number of locations is almost double previous estimates made by the same institution and, all told, they may have imprisoned and killed between 15 to 20 million people.

Note that the USHMM story is that pregnant women were forced to have an abortion or had their baby killed after giving birth.  I have blogged about babies being born in the Nazi camps several times: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/pregnant-at-auschwitz-the-story-of-miriam-rosenthal/

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/its-a-miracle-seven-babies-slipped-through-the-nazi-killing-machine-at-dachau/

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/holocaust-survivor-who-was-born-in-auschwitz/

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/holocaust-survivor-was-born-in-mauthausen-concentration-camp/

This serious mistake, by the USHMM, regarding the fate of pregnant women and babies, is enough for me to question the whole article.

The largest “death camps” in  the Holocaust were Auschwitz and Majdanek. The number of deaths at Auschwitz has been downgraded, from 4 million to 1.1 million, and  the number of deaths at Majdanek has been downgraded, from 1.5 million to 78,000.  Were these deaths subtracted from the 20 million total?

Sorry, but I don’t believe the new total of 20 million people killed by the Nazis.  False in one, false in all.  Next time, don’t tell us about mothers being forced to have an abortion in the “death camps.”

24 Comments

  1. The nazis did not kill five million Germans: I am certain that this claim is completely false .Notice that this claim is not backed up by any links?

    Comment by der-wulf — March 12, 2014 @ 7:04 pm

    • They are including the deaths of Russian civilians.

      Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 9, 2016 @ 3:54 am

  2. I think I Will end my interest in the war as I have other things absorbing my interest lately. My q #1 for you is who is this jewish leader in Ukraine, Yanukovich? I think I got the spelling right. Why are the ultranationalists of slavic Ukraine being led by this individual who could fly to Israel tomorrow? My theory is that jews intend to launch coups in league with the very israel intoxicated pentagon.

    Comment by der-wulf — March 11, 2014 @ 7:15 pm

  3. “I did read many times that Nazis would let pregnant (Jewish) women give birth to their babies. As soon as it happened the baby was either killed by smashing its head against a cement wall or drowned in a bucket full with water in front of the mother. According to Nazis, Jews were lower than animals and nothing stood in their way to murder them. ” Yes, I also read they smashed babies and that when the Nazis marched into villages the first thing they did was scramble all the pairs of colored socks in the sock drawers so that no one had a matching pair. Jews who were considered “tickle pimps” were forced to stand at attention for hours in the square in nothing but their mismatched socks until the order was finally given by an Obersturmbannführerfallschirmjägersturmabteilungreichssicherheitshauptamtoberkommandoderwehrmachtsfachschulunterrichreichskriegsministeriumortsgruppenleiter for them to stand “at ease.” And this went on without surcease for three long years!

    Comment by who dares wings — March 10, 2014 @ 5:31 pm

  4. Having studied and researched my father’s murder (being buried alive) in a concentration (Kamp Erika in Holland) on order from Lagerführer Karel Lodewijk Diepgrond in 1943 I did read many times that Nazis would let pregnant (Jewish) women give birth to their babies. As soon as it happened the baby was either killed by smashing its head against a cement wall or drowned in a bucket full with water in front of the mother. According to Nazis, Jews were lower than animals and nothing stood in their way to murder them. Oh, the Dutchman that became a member of the Waffen SS and Lagerführer of Kamp Erika, never stood trial for my father’s and others murder. He got a couple of year of jail and was granted freedom by Queen Juliana. So much for justice in LATENT-NAZISM EUROPE, even today.

    Comment by nieland1943 — March 10, 2014 @ 3:50 pm

  5. Yitzhak Arad (Hebrew: יצחק ארד‎) (né Itzhak Rudnicki) (born November 11, 1926), is an Israeli historian, retired IDF brigadier general and a former Soviet partisan who has served as director of Yad Vashem from 1972 to 1993. It was revealed in the 2000s that he had served in the NKVD and from 2006, he was investigated for war crimes and crimes against humanity in Lithuania. The prosecutor subsequently dropped the investigation after Israel had refused to cooperate, citing “failure to collect sufficient data.” Eric Hunt emailed Arad before releasing his new vido to ask him if there were any records of Jews being transited out of Treblinka. Arad answered that the only place they went after arriving on trains to treblinka was stright into to the gas chamber. So, Arad has lied becaus Hunt has Shoa Project interviewees describing leaving Treblinka for other camps. Simon Wiesenthal’s prevarications are discussed in Guy Walters’ book about him available at Amazon.com http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1310725/Why-I-believe-king-Nazi-hunters-Simon-Wiesenthal-fraud.html This new meme about up to 20,000,000 Holocaust victims floated by the USHMM is a transparent attempt to keep it in the news so it can continued to be welded as a political weapon and milked as cash cow by the “People of the Pickle.”

    Comment by who dares wings — March 10, 2014 @ 3:27 pm

  6. I think the 20 million is probably low. 11 million perished by the Nazis Holocaust related atrocities (camps killing squads), the Russians lost over 10 million in battle. Nazis killed a lot more than 20 million! Moreover Hitler’s Reich killed over 5 million Germans; not all of them stooges who wanted to further the glory!

    Comment by Foodforthought — March 10, 2014 @ 12:24 pm

    • Hahahahaha ‘Crapforthought’ back with a vengeance.

      If you really believe what you’ve just written, then you’ve really lost it I’m afraid.

      Who were these 5 million Germans then?
      The ones who turned out in their hundreds of thousands throwing flowers on the streets when Hitler visited their city?
      The ones who had to be held back by lines of security, rather like the Beatles a few years later?

      Why does some second-rate museum in the US have to report this? Why don’t the victims’ families say something?

      Anyway Foodie, I’ve got a great second hand car for you, low mileage, one careful owner……

      Comment by DB — March 10, 2014 @ 1:29 pm

    • I was going to mention the 5 million non-Jews killed in the Holocaust, but I didn’t want to make my blog post too long. This quote is from this website: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p439_Weber.html

      Begin Quote
      Simon Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name “commercialize” and “trivialize” the Holocaust, according to the director of Israelis Yad Vashem Holocaust center. The charge was reported by the Israeli daily newspaper Ha’aretz in December 1988. [46] The Brooklyn weekly Jewish Press commented on the charge: “The displeasure of Yad Vashem over what it sees as the commercialization of the Holocaust by the Wiesenthal Center has long been well known, but this is the most open attack yet.”

      Wiesenthal “threw out” the figure of “11 million who were murdered in the Holocaust — six million Jews and five million non-Jews,” said the director. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal replied: “The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention their victims, too.” Wiesenthal “chose ‘five million (gentiles)’ because he wanted a ‘diplomatic’ number, one that told of a large number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews… ”
      End Quote

      You must be fairly new to Holocaust studies, if you don’t know that Simon Wiesenthal admitted that he made up the number 5 million.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 10, 2014 @ 2:04 pm

    • The 20 million figure does not include men killed in battle, but Russian POWs who were Commissars were probably included, since they were executed on the orders of Adolf Hitler. I explained this on my website in this quote:

      Begin Quote
      Following the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, Russian Prisoners of War were sent to Dachau. On Hitler’s orders, Russian POWs who were determined to be Communist Commissars were executed at Dachau and other major concentration camps in Germany. The Communist Soviet Union had both political Commissars and military Commissars whose job it was to keep their citizens or soldiers in line. The military Commissars were stationed behind the front lines in order to urge reluctant Soviet soldiers forward since only one out of every 5 men had been furnished with a rifle. The Soviet soldiers were expected to pick up a rifle after another soldier had been shot; those who tried to retreat were shot by the Commissars. If captured, the Commissars were under orders to organize an escape or otherwise create havoc in the POW camp.
      End Quote

      The high number of Russian soldiers killed in battle is because only one in 5 men had a rifle when they went into battle.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 10, 2014 @ 2:20 pm

      • Source?

        Comment by Anonymous — March 15, 2014 @ 3:25 pm

        • The quote was from my own website, scrapbookpages.com. I don’t recall my source for the Commissar Order, but it was one of the many books about Dachau, which I read back in 1998 when I created my website. Back then, I didn’t realize that I should put in footnotes, giving the source for every word that I wrote.

          Wikipedia has a page on the “Commissar Order” at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissar_Order

          Comment by furtherglory — March 16, 2014 @ 9:05 am

          • Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was referring to the parts about one in 5 men having a rifle and being shot by commissars if they tried to retreat.

            Comment by Anonymous — March 16, 2014 @ 2:32 pm

            • Russian soldiers going into battle without a rifle was shown in the movie “Enemy at the Gate.” This movie starred Ed Harris. The soldiers without a rifle were forced to move forward by a Commissar who was following behind them. I recall that it was one out of 5 men who did not have a rifle, but I checked with a friend who is an expert on World War 2. He says that it was one out of every 2 men who had a rifle.

              Comment by furtherglory — March 17, 2014 @ 7:11 am

              • Is your friend an anonymous source?

                Comment by Anonymous — May 19, 2014 @ 2:36 pm

              • Would you consider “Enemy at the Gate” a Hollywood movie?

                Comment by Anonymous — May 19, 2014 @ 7:32 pm

                • I don’t know what you mean by the term “Hollywood movie.” Do you mean a movie that bends the truth to make the story more dramatic? If so, I don’t think that this is a Hollywood movie. Most of the story is true. There was a real Russian sniper. The battle of Stalingrad was real. The little boy, who was a double agent, might be fictional. The love story was a bit out of place.

                  The movie entitled “The Monuments Men” is a “Hollywood movie” which does not tell the truth. Compared to Monuments Men, Enemy at the Gate is real.

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 20, 2014 @ 9:25 am

    • Furtherglory:”That does not include casualties of the various allied and Soviet armies”

      Foodfor…: “the Russians lost over 10 million in battle. Nazis killed a lot more than 20 million!”

      Are you unable to understand what you read, Foodforzionspropaganda? Do you at least read the articles written by furtherglory or do you just post your debunked zionist propaganda without reading them?

      Glad to see it seems that you’ve understood that your Suchomel ‘proof’ is an empty shell.

      Comment by hermie — March 10, 2014 @ 10:43 pm


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