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April 2, 2014

Treblinka I labor camp where Jews were forced to manufacture gravel

Filed under: Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 12:38 pm

When I visited the Trebrinka death camp, way back in 1998, I was given the opportunity to see the Treblinka labor camp (Treblinka I) but I turned down an invitation from a Polish tour guide to join a group of Polish teenagers who were going to walk about a mile from the death camp to the labor camp.

I had my own Polish tour guide, who told me that there was nothing to see at the labor camp.  I decided not to walk a mile, just to see the bare ground of the former labor camp, where the Nazis had put Jews to work during World War II.

I have never regretted that decision, until today, when I read a news article in the Huffington Post about the new discoveries that have been found at the Treblinka I labor camp.

This quote is from the article in the Huffington Post, which you can read in full here:

Of all the atrocities of Hitler’s Third Reich, Treblinka is one of the most mind-boggling. Historians estimate that about 900,000 Jews were murdered at this concentration camp in Nazi-occupied Poland over a mere 16 months.

The Nazis began deporting Jews, mostly from the ghettos of Warsaw and Radom, to Treblinka in July 1942. There were two camps. Treblinka I was a forced-labor camp where prisoners were made to manufacture gravel for the Nazi war effort. A little more than a mile (2 kilometers) away was Treblinka II, a horrendously efficient death camp.

I am old enough to remember when there were gravel roads in America.  I thought that I knew what gravel is, but I had to google it to be sure.

I found this definition of gravel: “a loose aggregation of small water-worn or pounded stones”.  So those mean ole Nazis had the Jews pounding stones to manufacture gravel.

There were dirt roads in Poland back then. Maybe the Nazis wanted to build gravel roads for their tanks.

I took the photo below as my tour guide drove me to Treblinka. The road shown in the picture is a “black top road.”  Is a gravel road better than a black top road? I have traveled many a road, back in the boon docks of Missouri, and I don’t think so.  A black top road is better than a gravel road.

Road to Treblinka death camp

Road to Treblinka death camp

According to the news article in the Huffington Post, there were Jews killed at the Treblinka I labor camp. Time for a new Memorial, to the murdered Jews, to be put up at the Treblinka I camp.

Memorial stone at the entrance to the Treblinka II camp

Memorial stone at the entrance to the Treblinka II camp

Monument at the Treblinka II death camp

Monument at the Treblinka II death camp

I wrote about the  Treblinka death camp on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Treblinka/introduction.html

 

15 Comments

    • Thanks for the link. I have updated my old post about Treblinka and added a new post about this news story.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 15, 2014 @ 9:42 am

  3. Some of my footage of Treblinka I from October 2012:

    Some footage of the Treblinka cemetery from the same trip:

    The so-called discoveries in Sturdy Colls documentary, and the catalogue of its omissions, half-truths and outright lies are being exposed here, mostly thanks to my footage of the parts of Treblinka most people don’t visit:
    http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36820#p36820
    http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36929#p36929
    http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37034#p37034
    http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37449#p37449

    Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — April 2, 2014 @ 4:19 pm

    • Thanks a million for putting up these videos. Now I am sorry that I didn’t walk that extra mile to the Treblinka I camp. I didn’t know that there is so much to see there.

      I was amazed when I saw the depressions in the ground. According to the news article, here is what Dr. Caroline Sturdy Coils did at Treblinka I:

      Begin quote:
      [Dr. Caroline Sturdy Coils] began assessing Treblinka as an archaeological site in 2007. Her emphasis was on using “non-invasive” archaeological methods, including geophysical surveys of the site and visual inspection.

      “What we wanted to do at that stage was to asses what, if anything, survived below ground,” Colls said.

      Since that time, Colls has also led a lidar survey of the wooded site. Lidar is a method that uses lasers to measure the distance between the ground and the airplane-borne instrument. By scanning the ground with lidar, archaeologists can detect depressions and mounds that might indicate manmade structures. Lidar allows researchers to virtually strip away the vegetation that might obscure these features on the ground.

      “What that revealed was the presence of previously unknown mass graves,” Colls said.
      End Quote

      Before I saw your videos, I believed that it was necessary to use some new technology to find the mass graves at Treblinka I. Your videos show that the site of the mass graves can be seen without using lidar and an airplane.

      After seeing your videos, I am guessing that there was a typhus epidemic at the Treblinka I camp, which killed many people, Jews and Catholics alike.

      During World War I, there were 4 million people who died of typhus in Poland. I heard this on a TV show, when I was in a hotel in Poland. Altogether, there were 20 million people who died of disease during World War I, according to the TV show. We should not be surprised that many people died of typhus in World War II.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 3, 2014 @ 9:02 am

    • After seeing your videos, it all comes back to me. When I was a child, it was common to find “gravel pits” in Missouri. The gravel was always in “pits,” which were not man made; they were made by nature. It was common to see trucks, on the road, hauling gravel from a gravel pit. These pits were very deep. I recall that one of my cousins drowned, while swimming in an abandoned gravel pit. The word “quarry” was never used, with respect to gravel.

      The most important point is that gravel was never “manufactured,” as was mentioned in the news article. Back in the old days, there was such a thing as a “copy desk,” which was manned by a knowledgeable person who would catch stupid errors like “manufacturing gravel.”

      Comment by furtherglory — April 3, 2014 @ 9:21 am

      • Thanks FG.

        Graf and Mattogno cite German documents that prove there was typhus epidemic at Treblinka 1 in late 1943 (page 89):

        Click to access 08-t.pdf

        You can actually drive down to the cemetery, there’s even a car park there (meaning: some grass with a sign stating ‘P’, which I took to mean ‘parking’). I walked down to Trebinka 1 on the first day I was there, but on the second day I just drove down.

        The claim in Sturdy Colls’ documentary to have *discovered three previously unknown mass graves* is just a lie. The claim is debunked on the above rodoh links, but in a nutshell:

        “Mass Grave 1” – Contained a shoe, that was it
        “Mass Grave 2” – Contained a child’s jaw and a tibia, likely from the same child
        “Mass Grave 3” – Contained 40 bone fragments in total, which the archaeologists stated were from not all from the same person

        The documentary concealed the fact they were excavating in a graveyard, it provided no details of the previous investigations done in the graveyard by the Soviets (1944) and the Poles (1946).

        In reality, all they did was dig-up and then re-inter some bones that the Polish investigation had reinterred in 1946, after finding that 40 graves at the site had been desecrated, probably by the Soviets.

        Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — April 3, 2014 @ 10:21 am

    • Very interesting visit of Treblinka 1. Thanks for sharing that with us, TBRoI.

      Is it known if the buildings of Treblinka 1 have been dismantled by Germans before leaving the area or by Poles needing bricks after WW2?

      Comment by hermie — April 3, 2014 @ 10:16 pm

      • Thanks Hermie.

        Mattogno & Graf (Treblinka, p.92), and this publication by the head of the Treblinka museum, state that T1 was evacuated/liquidated on 23 July 1944, and the Soviets took control of it in August, issuing their report on the 24th.

        Click to access dam_ime_na_wieki.pdf

        Mattogno says that it was the Germans who dismantled T1 (see page 845).

        Click to access 28-tecoar.pdf

        Most of the buildings in T1 itself seem to have been made of wood, which sat on concrete foundations.

        This is from John Ball’s book featuring a close-up of T1 from Sept 1944, and you can see that only the foundations remain:

        Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — April 4, 2014 @ 8:22 pm

        • So, according to John Ball’s photos, T1 was apparently dismantled by the Germans, as it’s hard to see why the Soviets would have dismantled the camp so fast after capturing it. That destroys the exterminationist allegation claiming the Germans dismantled T2 because they had something to hide.

          Had most of the buildings at T2 no concrete foundations? I’m asking this because there are more ruins to see at T1 than there are at T2 (where there’s virtually nothing to see, except memorials).

          Comment by hermie — April 5, 2014 @ 7:59 am

  4. “After digging three small test trenches to confirm each mass grave, Colls and her team reburied the remains. Jewish rabbinical law prohibits the disruption of a gravesite, so the aim was never to disinter the bodies. But placing the bones back in the grave was emotionally difficult, Colls said.” The modus operendi of these discoveries is never to do a complete archeological or forensics study of the “suspected mass graves,” but to abide by Jewish rabbinical law and never disturb them. Some objects are unearthed, maybe even a few bones (human or otherwise) and these are quickly replaced back in the ground afterwhich the media goes into action and spreads the story, which we must take on faith, that thousands, nay, hundreds of thousands of Jews are buried there. Last year the USHMM announced that the Holocaust death toll is probably double what we’ve been told because they’ve found evidence of many more concentration camps than had previously not been known about. The same cinematic slight-of-hand that was used by the OSS Field Photography teams to make people believe lethal gas came out of the showerheads at Dachau and that Ilsa Koch was shrinking Polish prisoner’s heads at Buchenwald will be used by the entertainment wizards at The Smithsonian Channel to prop up this titillating new wrinkle of the Treblinka tall tale. Unfortunately, Richard Krege’s GPR and bore sample studies conducted there over eight years ago have never been released so it looks like we’ll be living with this left over psyche war scam from the last century for decades to come.

    Comment by who dares wings — April 2, 2014 @ 1:33 pm

  5. You might want to check your facts against Mr. Suchomel…we have been through this before. This Nazi Jr. Officer pretty much destroys everyone of your assertions. But you are persistent. Unless you are going to tell me this guy, at a time after his prison sentence willingly would speak about Treblinka (not under oath only on his free will) is lying you have no case. And if he is lying then you are going to have to do a little better than gravel.

    Comment by Foodforthought — April 2, 2014 @ 1:03 pm


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