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April 22, 2014

Lessons on the Holocaust, proposed by an ignoramus

Filed under: Dachau, Holocaust — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 9:04 am

In an article in the Wicked Local Bedford online newspaper, which you can read in full here, a suggestion was made by Alan Beauchamp to Jon Sills, the Bedford Public Schools Superintendent, on how to combat anti-Semitism in Bedford schools. Included in the headline of the article was this suggestion: “Don’t sugarcoat horrific history.”

The author of the article wrote that he was “appalled that in this community that anti-Semitism appears on the surface to be endemic from grade school students to high school students.”

This quote is from the article:

I think a PowerPoint presentation that shows numerous photos and videos of Jewish prisoners – men women and children being marched into the gas chambers at Dachau, Birkenwald, Bergen Belsen and other notorious death camps – may open some eyes as to what “kill the Jews” actually entails. It is a messy business. There is no need to coddle these students. History is what it is and sometimes it is not pretty — Arbeit macht frei. Tell them the irony of this and the story of Auschwitz. Sugars coat it and you get Swastikas on bathroom walls in Bedford High School.

I would like to know “the irony” of Arbeit macht Frei myself. I blogged about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/arbeit-macht-frei-what-does-it-stand-for/

I would certainly like to see some of the “numerous photos” of Jewish prisoners being marched into the gas chambers of Dachau and Bergen Belsen. I am familiar with several photos of Jews marching to the gas chambers at Auschwitz Birkenau.  I blogged about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/walking-to-the-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau/

As far as I know, there are no photos of Jews marching to the gas chamber at Bergen-Belsen. However, there are survivors of Bergen-Belsen, who are telling school children about the gas chamber at the Bergen-Belsen EXCHANGE camp. I blogged about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/holocaust-survivor-eva-olsson-educates-young-students-about-bergen-belsen/

Yes, children, there was a gas chamber at the Bergen-Belsen exchange camp, where Jewish prisoners were waiting to be exchanged for German citizens being held in internment camps in America.  I wrote about the evidence of a gas chamber at Bergen-Belsen on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/BergenBelsen/BergenBelsen04.html

The quote above continues with this information:

Let the students see the corpses piled up like cordwood. Let them see the piles of shoes and yes even teeth. Let them see the bodies being thrown into mass graves. Show them photos of SS Officers separating families at train stations where men were marched to the gas chambers and women were sent to the SS brothels. Let them see the results of Dr. Mengele’s “experiments”. I would expose the students to exactly what “kill all the Jews” means in graphic detail.

I would tell them that, even today, when one walks through Dachau, how one can still hear on the wind the moans and screams of the former inmates. I know this from firsthand experience after visiting the camp many times while stationed in Europe and escorting visitors.

When the man who wrote the words quoted above, was “stationed in Europe,” the Dachau camp was filled with ethnic Germans who had been expelled from what is now the Czech Republic.  After World War II, these refugees lived in the barracks at Dachau, until they were thrown out so that Dachau could be turned into a Memorial Site.  What this man heard was the moans of these former refugees, who lived in extreme poverty at Dachau for 17 years.  They were the lucky ones; other German “expellees” were living on the streets of German cities, begging for food.

I blogged about corpses piled up like cordwood at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/bodies-stacked-like-cordwood-how-many-times-have-you-read-those-words/

I blogged about the piles of shoes at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/do-photos-of-piles-of-shoes-prove-that-prisoers-were-murdered-at-dachau/

If any of the photos on my blog, or on my website scrapbookpages.com, would be useful for the Power Point presentation to the Bedford students, you have my permission to include  them.  For example,  the photo below shows prisoners arriving at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Prisoners arriving at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Prisoners arriving at Auschwitz-Birkenau

The photo below should be included in the Power Point presentation. It shows German POWs digging holes for shelter in one of Eisenhower’s death camps, which you can  read about on my blog post at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/

German POWs digging  holes for shelter in Eisenhower's  death camp

German POWs digging holes for shelter in one of Eisenhower’s death camps

I wrote about how the Holocaust should be taught in American schools in this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/should-the-holocaust-be-taught-in-american-schools/

21 Comments »

  1. hey man…can someone tell me how to get to Birkenwald death camp? I’ve been flying around looking for it and boy are my arms tired

    Comment by schlageter — April 23, 2014 @ 11:00 am

  2. Very interesting quotes I will study them accurately and thank in advance for bettere references of sources. For Yor information: i amthe son of Benjamin Murmelstein – THE LAST OF THRE UNJUSTS” who had to face Eichmann and associates from 1938 to 1945. I my self had to stay some times ib face of SS men. So, I my konowledge about things is better then Your’s. Just a moment First information about Gas Chamber extermination reached the West in JULY 1942 when SS Ltd. Kurt Gerstein had been able to iform a Swiss contact man. In 1945, when already in Allied cstordy that valuabe withness died in very strange circumstances; had he been suicided? Good bye.
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    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 23, 2014 @ 6:08 am

    • I wrote on my blog about the first report of gassing, given by Kurt Gerstein, at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/

      Comment by furtherglory — April 23, 2014 @ 8:28 am

    • ” First information about Gas Chamber extermination reached the West in JULY 1942 when SS Ltd. Kurt Gerstein had been able to iform a Swiss contact man.”

      What Swiss contact man? Dr. Hochstrasser? If so, Dr. Hochstrasser said in July 1955 that Kurt Gerstein first told him about the ‘Holocaust’ in June 1944. Dr. Hochstrasser even added that he was certain it was in early June 1944 because he had just returned to Switzerland after a long disease during the second half of May 1944.

      Moreover it’s weird to claim that Gerstein told the West about the ‘Holocaust’ in July 1942…as he visited alleged “death camps” (Treblinka and Belzec) for the first time in mid-August 1942. Mid-August 1942, i.e. just a few weeks after the World Jewish Congress started to claim that Hitler had just decided to mass murder Europe’s Jews with poison gas (not that he was doing it or had already done it – “Action reported planned for autumn”) in the Riegner ‘report’. Hmmm…

      And the icing on the cake, many people fail to see how farcical it was to read a mining engineer as Gerstein stating that Jews were gassed with non-lethal Diesel exhaust at Treblinka and Belzec. Gerstein knew that Diesel exhaust is pretty inocuous. That’s why Diesel engines were used in mines and submarines. Using Diesel engines was a very good way not to kill the workers of mines and sumarines…

      Comment by hermie — April 23, 2014 @ 8:29 pm

      • Gersterin had the task to supply the lethal Cyclon B to the Death Camps. Butm any way,, hre natter is that Gestein had been lready in Allied (French<?) custody at the momernt of his deth in strange circumstances. So, he could not be heard and questioned any more. Interestng indeed.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 23, 2014 @ 10:49 pm

        • Gerstein had the task to supply the lethal Zyklon B to the CONCENTRATION camps. Are you implying that Zyklon B was never used to delouse clothes and beddings, as well as to fumigate different kind of buildings (not only in concentration camps)? Zyklon B was also used as a fumigant in America and other countries at that time. And there were deliveries of Zyklon B to concentration camps where nobody still claims that there were homicidal gas chambers during WW2. How does deliveries of Zyklon B prove if that Zyklon B was used to kill people or if it was not? Even the extermininationist scientist Pressac wrote that around 95% of the Zyklon B delivered to Auschwitz had been used for non-homicidal purposes as delousings and sanitary fumigations.

          Whatever. Gerstein is way more connected with the Reinhardt camps than with Auschwitz and Majdanek in the ‘Holocaust’ mythology. In the Reinhardt camps, the Jews were supposedly killed with engine exhaust, not with Zyklon B. So I don’t see how your comment proved anything.

          Gerstein’s mysterious death is interesting. It’s true. But my opinion is that Gerstein was killed in order to prevent him from recanting his weird holo-testimony later. I connect Gerstein’s mysterious (but finally convenient for the holo-myth) death with the equally mysterious (but also convenient) deaths of Heinrich Himmler and Odila Globocnick in Allied custody. No way the victorious Allies could have sold their holo-fable at Nuremberg with Himmler and Globocnick in the room. But without them, it was pretty easy to pin an alleged extermination policy on the Nazi regime and claim it was something implemented behind the back of the other Nazis present at Nuremberg.

          Comment by hermie — April 24, 2014 @ 1:48 am

  3. Combat anti-Semitism or promote tolerance or any other motive they usually put on their horror holo-stories, isn’t that a political bias? Holohoax promoters often pin alleged political motives on “Holocaust denial” in order to discredit it by making it look like a pile of politically-biased lies told by dangerous morons. But ironically, Holohoax promoters are in reality the ones who have political motives and tell lies for political reasons.

    I’m afraid that PowerPoint presentation is useless. At Bedford, “one of the most ethnically and linguistically diverse towns in the UK in proportion to its size” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford#Demography), most of (if not all) the anti-Semitic offenses are very probably perpetrated by young Muslims because of the occupation of Palestine by the Israelis, and Muslims don’t care about the ‘Holocaust’ at all. Holohoax stories don’t work with them. Holohoax propaganda doesn’t make them feel guilty because they are not the descendants of the alleged perpetrators, i.e. the (allegedly) evil White Christians. They only care about their fellow Muslims expelled, ill-treated and butchered by the Israeli Chosenites and their American allies in Palestine, Iraq and Afganistan.

    “women were sent to the SS brothels”…Very funny, but the Nuremberg racial laws strictly forbade the Germans to have sex with Jewish women. The SS was for the elite of Nazi Germany. Who can believe that SS brothels full of Jewish women existed somewhere?

    Comment by hermie — April 22, 2014 @ 5:31 pm

  4. The article blamed is written by a dangerous ignorat of Holocaust History. Some individual SS shot photoes about the arrival of prisoniers but for his own account and risk. Photoes of selctioned persons marching toward the Gas Chamber are absurd. The SS about the Operation Reihard and similiar actions kept swecret.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 22, 2014 @ 9:40 am

    • Wolf, the photos weren’t risky.

      The photographer was documenting arrivals at a work camp and nothing more. What’s wrong with that?

      Some of the photos were quite clearly taken from the top of the railway wagons, which is not secretive.

      And if they had something to hide, why would they have taken photos anyway?

      Comment by DB — April 22, 2014 @ 10:49 am

      • The only photos, that purportedly show prisoners walking to the gas chamber, are in the Auschwitz Album. You can read about the Auschwitz Album on the Yad Vashem website at http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/album_Auschwitz/index.asp

        The title on the Yad Vashem website says that these photos are “the only surviving evidence of the process leading to mass murder at Auschwitz-Birkenau.”

        Comment by furtherglory — April 22, 2014 @ 11:22 am

        • Strange.

          From what we’ve been told, some of them knew they would be gassed, some of them didn’t. So why didn’t the ones that knew tell the ones that didn’t know?

          But whatever, there seems to be no panic or stress whatsoever in the Yad Vashem photos.

          It doesn’t really look like being holocausted was on the agenda

          Comment by DB — April 22, 2014 @ 11:50 am

          • According to the stories told by many survivors, the Sonderkomando Jews knew about the gas chambers, and they told some of the incoming Jews how to avoid going to the gas chamber.

            There was probably some confusion because the disinfection chambers, which used Zyklon-B to kill lice, had a sign on the door which said Gaskammer, and the shower rooms were in the same building. At Dachau, the disinfection chambers were in the same building as one of the shower rooms. To this day, some of the tour guides at Dachau are telling visitors that Jews were gassed in the disinfection chambers.

            Comment by furtherglory — April 22, 2014 @ 1:04 pm

      • Clearly, sone of the wanted to have a records of his deeds or, I guess, thought it would be a very good business “after the …”

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 22, 2014 @ 2:48 pm

      • Photoes certainly were not for the DEUTSCHER WOCHENSCHAU – Film Journal – but shot by some SS man for his own account and on his risk.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 22, 2014 @ 2:54 pm

    • In USA you do not have a clear idea how the Nazis had been able to keep secret about details of all their deeds. But anyway, such photo material is not suitable for lessons in High School or College where they should rather learn how a foolish policiy making at Versailles, around before and after, lInead exactly to the rise to power of nazi-fascist dictatorships and so to WWII and Holocaust. In USA there is,had been and, I am afraid, will be a great ignorance about historiical, geografical and social problems of Euripe in general and Central-East Europe espessically. The debates about the photoes wants to hide this damned ignorance. Clear?

      Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 22, 2014 @ 3:08 pm

    • Wolfie wrote: “The article blamed is written by a dangerous ignorat of Holocaust History”

      Dangerous because he undeliberately exposes the lies and tricks used by Holohoax promoters in the past? It’s not the fault of that man if Holohoax promoters used to claim that there were mass homicidal gassings at Dachau and Belsen and if they used (and still use) numerous pictures of emaciated typhus victims to credit their gassing hoax.

      Wolfie wrote: “The SS about the Operation Reihard and similiar actions kept swecret.”

      Funny to see how you always call zero evidence “[something] kept secret”. Makes me laugh every time….

      And don’t come with holo testimonies and confessions or witchcraft, bigfoots, ghosts, apparitions of Virgin Mary and alien abductions are at least as proved as the ‘Holocaust’.

      Comment by hermie — April 22, 2014 @ 5:56 pm

      • In USA the CIA and the FBI could learn from SD and GESTAPO who to act keeping secrecy. At September 11, 2001 these organization had shown how uncapable they are.At any rate in Central and East Europe before Hitler there had been very large Jewish comunities,almost disapeared as result of the Shoah, You certianly cannot say as Hans Frank – NAZI GENERAL GOVERNOR OF POLAND – ” … we should say … emigrated”, just as in 1924 USA ruled the harsh quota system for immigration. You are clearly an Antisemite. The foolish USA policy had been, is and will be a danger for the world. This is the reason for USA negationism.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — April 22, 2014 @ 10:45 pm

        • It was recently discovered that Roosevelt covered up Stalin’s Katyn massacre during WW2. In 1943, the Germans brought a group of American and British POWs to witness the exhumation of some of the Katyn victims. Two of those American POWs – Capt. Donald B. Stewart and Lt. Col. John H. Van Vliet Jr. – sent secret coded messages to Army intelligence after their 1943 visit to Katyn, pointing to Soviet guilt for the 1940 massacre.

          [quote]
          Ripple Effects

          The news about Roosevelt’s cover-up of this Soviet crime has yet another repercussion: apparently the United States had an operating network of secret radio transmission stations in German occupied Europe which could be used by U.S. spies and soldiers held in German captivity to relay secret messages. It will be interesting to find out whether those radio transmitters were ever used to convey any messages about GERMAN atrocities, for example in connection with the Holocaust. As far as this writer knows, no such radio messages have so far been released. It is hard to conceive how the U.S. administration would not have been informed about this “crime of the century” while it was allegedly unfolding. Maybe it turns out that Roosevelt covered up this crime, too, because Hitler was his secret ally…
          [end quote]

          (http://barnesreview.org/wp/archives/606)

          The ‘Holocaust’ is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. The Vatican, the International Red Cross and the Allied intelligence services could all have known of the ‘Holocaust’ but they all failed to report it when it was allegedly taking place. The Vatican had one “agent” in every village and city of Poland but reported nothing. The International Red Cross worked in the German concentration camps, including Auschwitz, and even investigated the “Shower Rumor” but reported nothing (or more exactly reported the “Shower Rumor” was only a rumor). The British and American intelligence services investigated the Holocaust Rumor at Auschwitz but reported nothing and America and Britain didn’t bomb the Auschwitz-Birkenau ‘gas chambers’. They only bombed the Auschwitz factories 4 times. The Polish resistance had infiltrated all the parts of the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp and information was often transmitted to the Polish resistance outside the camp but the ‘information’ about an alleged extermination of the Jews on an industrial scale was never reported (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p282_Aynat.html). Were they all covering up Hitler’s alleged “extermination of the Jews” during WW2? Of course not. Laughable conspiracy theory.

          On the other hand, the Worl Jewish Congress, a Zionist organization campaigning for the establishment of a “Jewish National Home in Palestine”, was spreading Holocaust allegations as early as in 1942.

          The ‘Holocaust’ is nothing but the officialization of a Zionist myth/rumor by the victors of WW2…

          August 14, 1944 letter from John McCloy, the U.S. Assistant War Secretary, saying that a study was done about whether it was necessary to bomb Birkenau:

          [quote]
          14 August 1944
          Dear Mr. Kuboeitski:

          I refer to your letter of August 9, in which you request consideration of a
          proposal made by Mr. Ernest Frischer that certain installations and railroad
          centers be bombed.

          The War Department has been approached by the War Refugee Board, which raised the
          question of the practicality of this suggestion. After a study it became apparent
          that such an operation could be executed only by the diversion of considerable air
          support essential to the success of our forces now engaged in decisive operations
          elsewhere, and would, in any case, be of such doubtful efficasy that it would not
          warrent the use of our resources. There has been considerable opinion to the affect
          that such an effort, even if practicable, might provoke even more vindictive action
          by the Germans.

          The War Department fully appreciates the humanitarian motives which prompted the
          suggested operation, but for the reasons stated above it has been felt that it can
          or should not be undertaken, at least at this time.

          Sincerely
          John J. McCloy (Signed)
          JOHN J. McCLOY
          Assistant Secretary of War
          [end quote]

          August 2, 1944 letter by British Chief Air Marshall Norman Bottomley asking that a study be quickly conducted about whether it was necessary to bomb Birkenau:

          [quote]
          TOP SECRET
          Secretary of State Polder

          A. C. A. S. (I)
          Copy to: Y. C. A. S.
          P.S. to S. of S.

          Reference minute 1 at noq. I have discussed this subject with General Spaatz, who is
          quite sympathetic.

          1. Before we can consider any action, however, it is necessary to know more about
          the precise location, extent, and nature of the camps and installations at Birkenau.
          It is particularly necessary to have some photographic cover.

          2. Will you please have this produced as early as possible, so that the operational
          possibilities of taking some effective action from the air can be studied by the
          operational Commands and the Deputy Supreme Commander. I need not emphasize the need
          for absolute secrecy in this investigation.

          M. H. Norman Bottomley (signed)
          \ D. C. A. S.
          2nd August 1944
          [end quote]

          Victor Cavendish-Bentinck, chairman of the British Joint Intelligence Committee, was right to think that Polish and Jewish sources were unreliable because they had a vested interest in exaggerating German atrocities. In August 1943, he stated: “It is true that there have been references to the use of gas chambers in other reports; but these references have usually, if not always, been equally vague, and since they have concerned the extermination of Jews, have usually emanated from Jewish sources. […] In my opinion it is incorrect to describe Polish information regarding German atrocities as “trustworthy”. The Poles, and to a far greater extent the Jews, tend to exaggerate German atrocities in order to stoke us up. They seem to have succeeded… I think that we weaken our case against the Germans by publically giving credence to atrocity stories for which we have no evidence. These mass executions in gas chambers remind me of the stories of employment of human corpses during the last war for the manufacture of fat, which was a grotesque lie”.

          http://www.holohoax101.org/201/

          http://www.revblog.codoh.com/2010/08/thomas-manns-war-time-radio-speeches-and-the-genesis-of-the-mass-gassing-allegations/

          Comment by hermie — April 23, 2014 @ 4:09 am


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