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May 8, 2014

Update on Holocaust “critical thinking” student assignment

You can read the latest on a school assignment for students in California, which required them to do some “critical thinking” by researching the Holocaust from both  sides.

This quote is from the latest news about the assignment:

After days, of putting up the barricades, the school board backed down, on Monday, May 05, 2014, and discovered that the Holocaust was real and admitted its error.

Coming upon the remains of the Holocaust, General Dwight Eisenhower demanded that the Nazi atrocities be explicitly documented. Eisenhower feared that with the passage of time some “son of a bitch” will deny it.

It seems some of those “sons of bitches” just might govern the Rialto school district. But use your critical thinking skills and make your own decision.

The link on the phrase “son of a bitch” takes you to a website which shows photos, which prove the Holocaust. I have copied some of the photos, that I have identified.

Bodies of dead prisoners piled up at the Crematorium

Bodies of dead prisoners piled up at the crematorium in the Dachau concentration camp

Dead bodies piled up outside the Dachau crematorium

Dead bodies piled up outside the Dachau crematorium

In the first photo above, notice what appears to be a wooden door leaning against something. The second photo shows this same door, which identities the photo as being taken at Dachau, a day or two after the camp was liberated. The bodies were piled up because the camp had run out of coal to burn the bodies. A couple of days later, the Dachau prisoners were put to work hauling these bodies away to be buried.

News men at Dachau several days after the camp was liberated

News men at Dachau several days after the camp was liberated

The photo above is the third photo shown on the website, cited above.  It shows newspaper reporters who were brought to Dachau to get the story. The bodies laid out in the photo are the bodies of prisoners who had died several days AFTER the camp was liberated. These are the bodies of prisoners who died of typhus AFTER the camp was liberated.

Bodies in a mass grave at Bergen-Belsen

Bodies in a mass grave at Bergen-Belsen

The fourth photo shown on the website is the photo above. This photo was taken at Bergen-Belsen, where there was a typhus epidemic in progress when the Germans turned the camp over to the British on April 15, 1945.

The photo shown below has the caption: “6 million Jews”.  The men in this photo are not Jews.  They are Russian Prisoners of War in the Mauthausen camp in Austria.

Russian Prisoners at Mauthausen

Russian Prisoners of War at Mauthausen

Moving right along, we see a very famous photo, which shows a BRITISH soldier shoving bodies at Bergen-Belsen into a mass grave. These are the bodies of prisoners who died of typhus. The British used a bulldozer so that they would not have to handle diseased bodies.

British soldier drives a bulldozer to shove bodies of typhus victims into mass  grave

British soldier drives a bulldozer to shove bodies of typhus victims into mass grave

Remarkably, the caption on the bulldozer photo is this:

20 million Russians were murdered, raped and humiliated.
And now, much of the world denies or wants to forget about it.

And people wonder why there are so many “Holocaust deniers.”

Finally, we get to the last photo, which is the most disingenuous of all: a photo of the prisoners at Nordhausen who were killed by an American bomb that hit the camp.  This photo is frequently shown as a photo of Jews killed by the Nazis.

Bodies laid out at Nordhausen were the bodies of prisoners killed by an American bomb

Bodies laid out at Nordhausen were the bodies of prisoners killed by an American bomb

 

 

22 Comments »

  1. Good to see a lot of people with brains, putting 2 and 2 together, realizing we fought the wrong enemy. All it took for me was finally without that jewish media taught prejudice against Germany, look at the facts and with out that jewish lens, and common sense, then the truth just jumps out at you. Adolf Hitler and his leadership were one of the most remarkable collection of men ever to grace a nation. For many years, they strived with sheer will, determination, and love for their volk. What Germany accomplished in such a small amount of time is unmatched in the history of mankind. We on the other hand, destroyed it all as well as the remarkable German in a short space of time. Look what we have in return, everything Hitler warned Germany about if they kept being led by the jew bankers, elitist traitors, and Bolshevik scum.
    Hey Europe, how you like your invading immigrants? America hows your Federal Reserve working out for ya? How’s that southern border coming along? Has your white guilt been knocked out lately? 2 more months left of all your wages being paid towards taxes till you get those 41/2 for yourself, that is for now, until the next mountain of default swaps hit!

    Comment by Joe Hbomb — July 17, 2014 @ 8:05 pm

  2. Had the Nazi’s not held Jewish prisoners in conditions of starvation, filth, overcrowding, and various other levels of torture causing mal-nutrition and vastly lowered immune systems, they would not have died “after the liberation” from typhus. Therefore they were killed by the Nazi’s.

    Comment by Nancy — May 30, 2014 @ 6:29 pm

    • There were 13,000 prisoners, who died of typhus, AFTER the Bergen-Belsen camp was turned over to the British. There were 400 prisoners, dying each day, after the Dachau camp was surrendered to the Americans. The typhus epidemics were stopped, only after all the prisoners had been vaccinated, with vaccine supplied by the Allies. If the Allies had sent vaccine, through the Red Cross, to the camps before they were liberated, there would have been no deaths from typhus.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 31, 2014 @ 8:10 am

  3. In other post we debated how to teach the Holocaust history. In my view – i am a survivor – the question should be why the nazism could rise on power, find aliies and cooperators and start the murdeing of Jews, Gypsies, Slavonic peoples and the war. The first conclusion would be that not only Germany is to blame. The figure of 6 milion jewish victims is estimated considering the members of the allmost all disapeared Jewish Comunities mainly in East and Central Europe but not those who had been consisered Jews only according the nazi racial theories. I had asked Bishop Richard Williamson WHY WHERE AND HOW DIED EDITH STEIN, declared to Sainthood by the Catholic Church; no answer received. The first idea of mass murdering Jews and Slavonic had been forced laour, then set up conditions for outbreak of letal epidemies, tham mass executions and, only to make thing fo on faster the Gas Chambers built for using Ziclon B. Consider than the ability of the Nazis to keep secret so only very few persons knew all the truth wihille singles offcials annd officers knew only what they had been ordered to do.Besides, WWII and the Holocaust had had many economic and social factors; unfortunawely I had not had the opportunity to make a dissertation on the subject when studying at Rome University as Professor for Economic History had been the antisemite and conservative chatolic Aminore Fanfani. .

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 8, 2014 @ 10:56 pm

    • “Why nazism could rise to power…why murdering the Jews…” Start by asking your fellow Jews to themselves ask a simple question: “why us?”

      Comment by Schlageter — May 9, 2014 @ 3:38 am

      • They hated the Jews because Jeshu barJosef – better known as Jesus Christ – was a Jew and preached the jewush values of a human social justice like “do noy upress the poor” or “do not build idols nor worship them”. Such an idol had been the “Fuehrer” Adolf Hitler or the “Duce” Benito Mussolini or the “Conductor Jon Antonescu, etc. etc. Jeshu bar Josef preached brotherhood and the right wing groups comradeship. Right wing theologians said the Jesus Christ had been indeed Arian and took apart the Gospel for the Old Testament. But, it seems that Hitler in his Table Talks stated that after the Final Victory he would wind up the churches too. Nazism, indeed, had been based on the faith in Great Germany and old time german mythes had been revalued. The dear Webmaster of this site is not ready to take note that Nazi Engineers had een able to build Gas Chambers for Mass Murdering of Human beeings with Zyclon B and without leaving any written plan drawing.. It is true taht the Gas Vans used motor fuel exhaustion but this waste of Petroleum – they had had only few Oil fields – could be avoided using Zyclon B in properly built Gas Chambers located where proper railway connections were available; an excellent logistic. The USA experts quoted to say that Gas Chambers had been impossible for mass killing have experience witjh those of individual “lawfull executions” of verdicts of juries lead by racial pregiudices. Clear? Un leck mich am Arsch!

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 9, 2014 @ 5:58 am

        • Wolf Murmelstein wrote: “The dear Webmaster of this site is not ready to take note that Nazi Engineers had een able to build Gas Chambers for Mass Murdering of Human beeings with Zyclon B and without leaving any written plan drawing.. It is true taht the Gas Vans used motor fuel exhaustion but this waste of Petroleum – they had had only few Oil fields – could be avoided using Zyclon B in properly built Gas Chambers located where proper railway connections were available; an excellent logistic. The USA experts quoted to say that Gas Chambers had been impossible for mass killing have experience witjh those of individual “lawfull executions” of verdicts of juries lead by racial pregiudices”

          I wrote about the “gas chamber engineers” on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/who-were-the-nazi-gas-chamber-engineers/

          I showed photos of the gas chambers, that can still be seen today, on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/how-many-of-the-nazi-gas-chambers-are-still-in-existence/

          From all this, I have deduced that the Gaskammeren were used to disinfect clothing in an effort to prevent typhus which is spread by lice. I wrote about the disinfection chambers at Dachau in this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/disinfection-chamber/

          Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2014 @ 7:59 am

          • Dear Webmaster! First of all, the Nazis considered Jews and other inferiore racial gropups simpy as lice. So disinfection from lice could have been a nickname for mass murdering in Gas Chambers using the Zyclon B gas which avoided to “waste diesel fuel” for notor exhaustion gas for murdering. The murder action started indeed with the gasvans – trucks fitted as gas chambers using exhaustion gas – but this fitted only for small groups and wasted diesel oil needed for the thanks or so. In USA You used already DDT for disinfection but in Germany Zyklon B circulated already in the thirties. Why You do not offer the evidence shown in the pages of the book of B. Murmelstein? I am ready to asnwer questions?

            Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 11, 2014 @ 9:09 am

        • Mr. Murmelstein wrote: “The dear Webmaster of this site is not ready to take note that Nazi Engineers had [b]een able to build Gas Chambers for Mass Murdering of Human beeings with Zyclon B…”

          If the Germans designed and built all this killing equipment and facilities “for mass murdering”, can you explain why the camps – including Auschwitz- had individual cremation ovens? No large industrial furnaces that could accept and incinerate great multiples of bodies at a time in these camps? It’s claimed at Auschwitz for example that “2000 to 2500” were regularly gassed at a time at Krematorium II. But only 15 individual ovens to then dispose of that pile of 2000-plus? The bodies would have to sit decaying in the strangely underground (?) “gas chamber” for nearly a week until all were burned. That doesn’t make “industrial” sense if “mass murdering” is “the plan”. By the way, can you explain why the “gas chamber” and the “undressing room” before it were both underground?

          Please explain why the Germans, who obviously had brilliant engineers and produced rockets and jet planes and indeed had LARGE industrial furnaces for the armaments and general industry would not bother to plan for or install commensurate – or even adequate – disposal ovens in the camps for this bold “Final Solution” program that was supposed to consume “the millions of Jews of Europe”.

          Also, can you explain why the Germans would…ever… think to use “diesel engines” to produce carbon monoxide for killing as claimed at Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor (the so-called Reinhard “Death camps”)? Would the German engineers not have known about the low CO output of diesels versus gasoline motors? Would they further not have known that carbon monoxide is easily and reliably made in still greater quantities by cooking coal or wood chips and without any moving parts? That you don’t even need an engine? Much less a “captured diesel from a Soviet tank”…

          Couldn’t the Germans have spared three (3) wood gas producers to make carbon monoxide at Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka from out of the half-million that they had on hand all across Europe?

          Comment by Alan — May 9, 2014 @ 10:44 am

          • Alan wrote: “can you explain why the “gas chamber” and the “undressing room” before it were both underground?”

            These two rooms were morgues. The building was called “Krema II.” Krema means crematorium. A crematorium has a morgue so that the bodies can be kept until they can be burned. The morgue rooms were underground to keep the bodies cool, so that they would not decompose rapidly.

            The two morgue rooms were at right angles to each other, so that each room could be entered separately. One did not have to go through the so-called “undressing room” to get to the so-called “gas chamber.”

            Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2014 @ 10:52 am

            • I was aware that the two below ground rooms were designated “Leichenkeller 1 and 2” on the blueprints for the crematorium from the Auschwitz archives.

              I just wanted to see if Mr Murmelstein had a good (logical) – or novel – explanation for why these rooms, well-suited in placement and construction for being morgues, were built below ground for some other reason. Other than a good (or novel) answer, I really wasn’t expecting Mr Murmelstein to tackle the question. And so far, he hasn’t.

              I can say that one supporter of the myth did give me a pretty good answer to this question: When I asked him initially why the “gas chamber” was built below ground, he very quickly shot back that it was built that way “to muffle the screams of the victims as they were being gassed by the Nazi bastards” etc . Not a bad explanation. Then I asked him why the Germans went to the trouble of excavating and building the “undressing room” below ground too since – according to the story – people only entered the “gas chamber” because they were still under the belief it was merely a shower. Having willingly and calmly undressed in the “undressing room” beforehand still under the illusion they were just going to be taking a shower, we’d assume there was no screaming or commotion in the “undressing room” and therefore no need for it be sound-proof like the “gas chamber”.

              No response followed from this otherwise very loud Holocaust story supporter as to why the “undressing room” was underground. He just moved on to someone more naïve.

              Comment by Alan — May 10, 2014 @ 11:21 pm

        • Wolf M.: “They hated the Jews because Jeshu barJosef – better known as Jesus Christ – was a Jew and preached the jewush values of a human social justice like “do noy upress the poor” or “do not build idols nor worship them”. Such an idol had been the “Fuehrer” Adolf Hitler or the “Duce” Benito Mussolini”

          You’re a total clown, wolfie.

          Comment by hermie — May 11, 2014 @ 9:11 am

    • Wolfie wrote:-

      “Consider than the ability of the Nazis to keep secret so only very few persons knew all the truth…”

      Oh yes, and the bureaucrats and the train drivers and indeed all railway staff and the people who lived near these camps and their neighbours and also the friends and families of all the people mentioned would probably know as well and if they knew then everybody in Europe knew and so and so on.

      Some big secret!!!

      Comment by DB — May 9, 2014 @ 6:49 am

      • 1. In Nazi regime one knwe what seemed necessart to let him know and not more. 2. In that Terror Regime it was not wise to ask or even look for facts. 3. The Nazi machinery worked subdividing single tasks among many persons. Onlt very few hisgh ranking persons – Himmler, Goering, etc, – had a wide knoledge of things. A model for keeping secrets. Every comparision is only accidental. Clear?

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 10, 2014 @ 11:59 am

      • db! Mt name is WOLF AND NOT WOLFIE. Clear!

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 11, 2014 @ 10:40 pm

    • Wolf Murmelstein wrote: “In my view – i am a survivor – the question should be why the nazism could rise on power, find aliies and cooperators and start the murdeing of Jews, Gypsies, Slavonic peoples and the war.”

      In 1938, Hitler was named as Time magazine’s “Man of the Year.” Hitler was selected because he had had the most influence of anyone in that year. You can read an article about the “Man of the Year” on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauMemorial/TimeCover.html

      This quote from the article tells some of the good things that Hitler did for Germany:
      Begin quote:
      In bad straits even in fair weather, the German Republic collapsed under the weight of the 1929-34 depression in which German unemployment soared to 7,000,000 above a nationwide wind drift of bankruptcies and failures. Called to power as Chancellor of the Third Reich on January 30, 1933 by aged, senile President Paul von Hindenburg, Chancellor Hitler began to turn the Reich inside out. Unemployment was solved by: 1) a far-reaching program of public works; 2) an intense re-armament program, including a huge standing army; 3) enforced labor in the service of the State (the German Labor Corps); 4) putting political enemies and Jewish, Communist and Socialist jobholders in concentration camps.

      What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to Germany in less than six years was applauded wildly and ecstatically by most Germans. He lifted the nation from post-War defeatism. Under the swastika Germany was unified. His was no ordinary dictatorship, but rather one of great energy and magnificent planning. The “socialist” part of National Socialism might be scoffed at by hard-&-fast Marxists, but the Nazi movement nevertheless had a mass basis. The 1,500 miles of magnificent highways built, schemes for cheap cars and simple workers’ benefits, grandiose plans for rebuilding German cities made Germans burst with pride. Germans might eat many substitute foods or wear ersatz clothes but they did eat.
      End quote

      This is just a short list of what Hitler did for Germany, which caused the German people to love him. The main thing is that he gave the German people back their pride. He told them about how the Jews had caused Germany to be defeated in World War I. He told them about “the Big Lie that the Germans had lost the war in the field.” Germany had never been invaded in World War I. The capital of Germany had not been taken. I could go on and on, but you get the idea.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2014 @ 7:19 am

    • On this page of my website, http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Sachsenhausen/introduction.html I wrote about Hitler’s rise to power.

      Scroll down on the web page, cited above, to this quote, and continue reading from there:

      Begin quote:
      When construction started on the new Sachsenhausen camp in the summer of 1936, Nazi Germany was the envy of the Western world. From the depths of the Great Depression in 1932, Hitler had achieved an “economic miracle” in Germany in less than three years. As yet, there was no sign of Nazi aggression, nor any attempt at world domination by Germany. Gertrude Stein, the famous Jewish writer who was a mentor to Ernest Hemingway, even suggested in 1937 that Hitler should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

      Because of the Nazi program of nationalism, the German people had regained their self respect after the humiliating Treaty of Versailles, which Germany was forced to sign at the end of World War I. They now had great pride in their ethnicity and their country. No people in the world were more patriotic than the Germans in 1936 and no other world leader had the total dedication to his country that Adolph Hitler had.
      End quote

      Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2014 @ 7:31 am

    • Wolfie wrote: ” The figure of 6 milion jewish victims is estimated considering the members of the allmost all disapeared Jewish Comunities mainly in East and Central Europe”

      False. The 6-million holo-figure started to run after the birth of Zionism as a political movement, and especially after the Ottoman sultan had refused to sell Palestine to Theodore Herzl with Rothschild money (early 1900’s). “There are six million suffering, bleeding and living arguments in favor of Zionism”, as Rabbi Stephen Wise formulated it in 1900…42 years before telling the world about Hitler’s alleged extermination plan for Europe’s Jews with prussic acid gas (late 1942). During the first décades of the 20th century, Zionists sold the alleged martyrdom of 6 million Jews hundreds of times. That alleged martyrdom was supposed to prove that the Jews needed to have a land for themselves and they could live in peace only if Palestine was given to them as a Jewish homeland. After repeating the same lie hundreds of time, it was finally believed and the Zionists could get what they had been working for so hard during the previous decades.

      Moreover, the 6-million figure is not supposed to come from any counting or sensus of Jewish communities. According to the Holocaust narrative, the 6-million figure was provided by the “Nazi” Wilhelm Hoettl (whose source was allegedly Eichmann himself) at Nuremberg. It was later revealed that Hoettl was in fact a spy working for the Allies, but his ‘confession’ remained the source of the 6-million figure anyway.

      Wolfie wrote: ” The first idea of mass murdering Jews and Slavonic had been forced laour, then set up conditions for outbreak of letal épidémies”

      Evidence for this?

      If the Nazis wanted to kill Jews with epidemics, why did they use so strict delousing procedures in their concentration camps? Why shaving their laborers’ head? Why delousing their inmates’ clothes with dangerous poison gas, steam, hot air and even microwaves? Why giving their new inmates a shower after shaving their head? Didn’t all those measures prevented typhus epidemics from emerging most of the time and from killing as many Jews as possible?

      Wolfie wrote: “Consider than the ability of the Nazis to keep secret so only very few persons knew all the truth ”

      The Holohoax was no secret during WW2. It was in most Allied newspapers. Steam chambers, gas chambers, electrocution chambers (with metal floors), homicidal electric conveyor belts, homicidal gassings in air-tight trains, injections of air bubbles into the veins, etc. All those bullshits were regularly in most Allied wartime newspapers. They were all part of the Allied wartime atrocity propaganda. The Holohoax was secret only for the Nazis because they were not listening to Allied broadcasts and reading Allied newspapers during WW2. That’s why several high-ranked Nazis said that they had first heard of the “Holocaust” at Nuremberg, after the end of WW2. In order to reconcile that apparent paradox, the Allied liars invented the myth of a secret Holocaust only known by a few dead (How convenient!) Nazis like Hitler, Himmler, Gerstein and Globocnick. How could the Nazis prosecuted at Nuremberg have defended themselves against something they were not aware of?

      Wolfie wrote: “The dear Webmaster of this site is not ready to take note that Nazi Engineers had een able to build Gas Chambers for Mass Murdering of Human beeings with Zyclon B”

      Of course, they could have designed and built homicidal cyanide (Zyklon) gas chambers. But you can be sure that they would have found something better than holes in roofs and wire mesh columns with a basket moving up and down if they had really tried to design and build homicidal cyanide gas chambers. They would have probably converted the delousing cyanide gas chambers they already had at that time (with poisoned hot air blown in the gas chambers, etc.) into homicidal gas chambers. The farcical alleged homicidal gas chambers of the ‘Holocaust’ were patently designed by an uncultured Mudjik or Eastern Jew for propaganda purposes.

      Wolfie wrote: “It is true taht the Gas Vans used motor fuel exhaustion but this waste of Petroleum – they had had only few Oil fields”

      Gas vans supposedly killing people with non-lethal DIESEL exhaust…while the Nazis had real gas chambers on wheels to delouse clothes on the Eastern front and there were hundreds of thousands of civilian vehicles using very toxic wood-gas generators (a lot of carbon monoxide) as fuel in wartime Germany. What a joke! Soviet lies are always so stupid…

      Wolfie wrote: “using Zyclon B in properly built Gas Chambers located where proper railway connections were available; an excellent logistic.”

      Proves nothing. Also an excellent logistic to dispatch forced laborers where they were needed, you must admit that.

      By the way, Polish resistance had infiltrated all parts of the Auschwitz-Birkenau-Monowitz complex early in the war and the Polish resistants inside the camp regularly exchanged information, food, medicine and all kinds of things with the Polish resistants outside the camp. But in spite of that, Polish resistance failed to report any extermination of Jews in gas chambers at Auschwitz for years (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p282_Aynat.html). Had such industrial slaughterhouses really existed at Auschwitz, the information would have leaked out only a few days or weeks after they had started to work. In Allied newspapers, Auschwitz only became an alleged extermination center for Europe’s Jews from March 1944, i.e. the month following a demand by the British Minister of Information for help to spread anti-German atrocity propaganda (http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2011/07/shocking-1944-british-government-letter.html?zx=6d9dd01461e2de7a). There are many wartime newspapers online. You can verify what i’m saying if you don’t believe me. Search “Auschwitz” or “Oswiecim” and “Jews” in those old newspapers and you’ll find no mention of an alleged extermination of Jews at Auschwitz before March 1944. Speaks volumes…😉

      Comment by hermie — May 9, 2014 @ 9:31 am

  4. “20 million Russians were murdered, raped and humiliated. And now, much of the world denies or wants to forget about it.”

    Amazing quote for anybody knowing of the German “Wehrmacht brothels” with local prostitutes (intended to prevent rapes of local women from taking place), the severe penalties discouraging rapes by the German soldiers during WW2, and the savage (to say the least!) behavior of the Red troops in Germany at the end of WW2 (even the little girls and old women were mass raped by the Soviet “liberators”). If there was a championship of rape in history, the Soviet army of WW2 would certainly get a well-deserved gold medal. No contest.

    Comment by hermie — May 8, 2014 @ 6:41 pm

  5. More of Eisenhower touring Ohrdruf : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s075S5AMuE

    Comment by Alan — May 8, 2014 @ 6:00 pm

  6. Regarding Eisenhower and why (many if not most) Americans believe in “the Holocaust” I would suggest viewing the video “Why America Believes in the Holocaust” from the “Buchenwald : A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil” series of videos:

    uploaded here as Episode 9 of 22: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byeu6z3ed7U

    or the full series on Buchenwald (and much of the rest of the myth) starting with Episode 1 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWr4i0kNy0k

    Comment by Alan — May 8, 2014 @ 5:38 pm


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