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May 15, 2014

At Auschwitz-Birkenau, the “execution chambers” are now “roped off and in ruins”

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 11:24 am

I have visited the ruins of the Krema II and Krema III gas chambers at the Auschwitz-Birkenau memorial site on 3 separate occasions: in September 1998 and again in October 2005 and 2007.

I have not been back to Auschwitz since 2007, but I have long suspected that the ruins of the Krema II gas chamber have now been roped off, to prevent anyone from climbing down into the ruins. My suspicion was confirmed when I read an article about tourist travel to Auschwitz-Birkenau here.

Seeing the inside of Krema II causes people, who try this stunt, to be instantly turned into “Holocaust deniers.”  Don’t let this happen to you.

My 2005 photo of the ruins of Krema II is shown below.

The ruins of Krema II has a hole in the roof

The ruins of Krema II has a hole in the roof

Three people, that I know of, have descended into a hole in the roof of Krema II, shown in my photo above, and have emerged as Holocaust deniers.

Thankfully, the ruins of Krema II have now been roped off to prevent any more people from climbing down into the ruins of the gas chamber.  Two of the three people, who descended into the gas chamber, before it was roped off, were put into prison for Holocaust denial, which is now a crime in 19 countries.  The third person, Fred Leuchter, barely escaped prison. He is an American citizen, which is the only thing that saved him; he has since gone into hiding.

Ruins of the oven room in Krema II at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Ruins of the oven room in Krema II at Auschwitz-Birkenau

This quote is from the website, cited above:

Leaving the row of prison blocks [in the main Auschwitz camp], visitors exit past watchtowers and barbed wire, arriving at the former ammunition bunker that was repurposed as the camp’s first gas chamber and crematorium. Jews from the Silesian region and Soviet POW’s were put to death here. Two of the three furnaces used to cremate the bodies of murdered Silesian Jews and Soviet POW’s are displayed. Candles flicker by flowers placed in remembrance in front of the open oven doors.

In the above quote, the “first gas chamber and crematorium” is a reference to the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp.

Krema I gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

Krema I gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

The quote below is from this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/Birkenau01.html

The first gas chamber, that was used at the Auschwitz-Birkenau complex, was in a room that was being used as a morgue in Krema I, the crematorium in the main camp. The gas chamber in Krema I was only used between September 1941 and March 1942, according to the Auschwitz Museum, although the ovens were used for cremation until 1943.

Jews were gassed in Krema I only during a six-week period in 1942; the rest of the time, it was used for gassing Soviet Prisoners of War. According to Jean-Claude Pressac, who wrote a book entitled “Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers,” there was a total of approximately 10,000 people gassed in Krema I, which had a capacity of 600 to 800 persons for each gassing. By the end of March 1942, the gassing operation was moved to the Auschwitz II camp, also known as Birkenau. Two old farm houses at the western end of the Birkenau camp were used for gassing while four new gas chambers were under construction.

I wrote about the Sachsenhausen gas chamber on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Sachsenhausen/ConcentrationCamp/GasChamber.html

Don’t start denying that there was a gas chamber at Sachsenhausen; it was proved in “the Berlin trial.”

According to the Auschwitz Museum, the first prisoners to be gassed at Auschwitz were 600 Soviet Prisoners of War and 250 sick prisoners who were killed with Zyklon-B gas on September 3, 1941 in Cell No. 27 in Block 11, the prison block in the main Auschwitz camp.

Keep in mind that Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet soldiers, so the Soviets had the opportunity to tell their story first.  The Soviets arrived on January 27th, after the Germans had abandoned the camp on January 18th.

The Soviet story is that the Germans sneaked back into the Auschwitz camp TWICE and blew up the Krema II and Krema III gas chambers, in order to destroy the evidence of gassing. (Or did some Soviet soldiers visit the camp on January 20th, and blow up the gas chambers?)

Thankfully, the Germans did not destroy the Krema I gas chamber in the main camp.  Tourists can see the Krema I gas chamber, although the room is now roped off, so that no one can walk around in the room, as I was able to do in 2005.

The gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

This section of the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp is now roped off

Ruins of Krema III gas chamber

Ruins of Krema III gas chamber

Ruins of Krema III gas chamber

Ruins of Krema III gas chamber

Ruins of Krema III undressing room

Ruins of Krema III undressing room

25 Comments »

  1. There is also an area roped off at Treblinka; this was the swimming pool , something I learnt from this new revisionist video recently posted. It is a high quality video although it would help if the narration was done by a professional narrator. They also put a picture of the Mauthausen swimming pool as the Auschwitz one : a small error admittedly.

    Comment by peter — May 17, 2014 @ 4:27 am

  2. The Polish Government used for more than 50 years the AUSCHWITZ, TREBELINKA, MAIDANEK, SOBIBOR camps only for tourism promotion even instructing the guides to tell stories in a non exact way. Then they placed the Carmelite Monastery at Auschwitz in order to let people forget that it was mainly Jews, who had been exterminated. The case of a former SS guard who took his daughter for a visit there and noted how inexact the guide told things deserves to be recorded. Now Poland finds more profitable USA negationist as visitors. All those CAMPS ought to be SITES OF SILENCE to respect the memory of peopled killed there which number can only be conjectured. Mr Leutner constructed Gas Chambers in USA prisons for “lawful executions” of death sentences and can hardly admit how Nazi Engineers had been able to set up those for mass killings using the Zyklon B avoiding the waste of oil from diesel motors. Then, before leaving, the Nazis destroyed what was possible and so sad debates are going on.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 15, 2014 @ 11:26 pm

    • Wolfie wrote:-
      “…….before leaving, the Nazis destructed what possible….”

      Why are we supposed to believe this utter crap? The Nazis destroyed the evidence. Did they?

      So if the Germans destroyed the evidence, all these survivors, ie the evidence, are liars then, they must be. If they are evidence to industrial-scale murder, why did the Germans allow them to live.

      Jews may think they’re “the chosen ones”, but I’m afraid the rest of us were given brains as well; Jewish arrogance fails to understand that

      Comment by DB — May 16, 2014 @ 7:59 am

      • The Nazis left Auschwitz on January 18, 1945. There are thousands of witnesses to the fact that the Nazis left on that day, including Primo Levi, who wrote about this in one of his books. There are thousands of witnesses, still alive today, who saw that the gas chambers were still there when the Nazis, and the Jews who could walk, were marched out of the camp on January 18, 1945.

        Comment by furtherglory — May 16, 2014 @ 8:13 am

      • The exact meaning of “what possible” what they could destroy, Clear? And my name is WOLF and not wolfie, Clear too? Un nun leck mich am Arsch!

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 16, 2014 @ 12:03 pm

    • I wrote about the Carmelite nuns at Auschwitz on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.html

      I wrote about the Carmelite nuns at Dachau on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/MemorialSite/Convent.html

      The reason that the Carmelite nuns set up convents at these camps was because Edith Stein, who died at Auschwitz, was a Catholic convert. It was not to make people forget that it was the Jews who were killed, not Catholics.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 16, 2014 @ 9:08 am

      • The canard of the Nazis having destroyed evidence of their alleged crimes before leaving Auschwitz is laughable. Krema II and III were leveled to the ground and the only rooms only partly damaged were the half-underground morgues (claimed to be gas chambers and undressing rooms according to Holohoax promoters), which the Germans supposedly tried to erase when they dismantled their crematory facilities. The real reason for the dismantling of the Birkenau crematories is easy to see. All what you have to do is google “Majdanek” and see what kind of visual propaganda was used by the Soviets in 1944. Pictures of charred corpses, ashes and crematory ovens were the core of that time’s Soviet atrocity propaganda. Leaving crematory facilities behind them was really not in the interest of the Germans in late 1944. Nothing suspicious in the dismantling of the Birkenau crematoria. That’s why the Soviets first claimed that the former gas chambers had been “restructured […] so that they would look like innocent garages”, not that they had been destroyed to erase evidence of a mass murder in those rooms as claimed today.

        Wolfie, I remember that you once refused to respond to my arguments supposedly because I had said that you looked like a moronic crackpot and you found that very rude. And now you often ask people to kiss your ass. Is that polite, Wolfie? Or were you just escaping my arguments for another reason when I told you that you looked like a moronic crackpot?

        Comment by hermie — May 17, 2014 @ 6:37 am

        • I simply replied to Your offenses in same rude language. I myself am in a good friendly relationship with a German Gentleman who at 17 year served in the Wehrmach un it plaaced in April 1945 near Terezin and supposed to repress a “farce revolt” and so to kill all of us. I had been contacted by that Gentleman and so I could fully understand the happenin gs in the night between Apri 17 and 18 1945. And we became freinds. I had had many opportunities to takl in a polite way with former German or Italian soldiers about WWI happenings. So I could better understand the Shoah Histroy. Clear? Wolf.

          Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 17, 2014 @ 8:56 am

          • @Wolf M.

            I didn’t say that you replied to “my offenses” in the same rude language. I said that you hid behind a rude language excuse to escape and avoid my point – which was that your word “negazionist” was absurd and laughable – in the past. I was only putting your hypocrisy in light, as you are patently not disturbed by rude language at all. Just for fun…😉

            Comment by hermie — May 17, 2014 @ 6:47 pm

      • Some years ago I adressed Bishop Richard Williamson – Lefevrian Shoah denier – the simple question WHERE, WHEN AND WHY Edith Stein – at Sainthood as Sister Teresa della Croce – died? I am still waiting for the answer. Indeed the Nazis considered Edith Stein just as a Jewess and had been deported from the Netherland to Auschwitz and there gassed. At any rate the Holy Sea at last understood that a Carmleitan convent insied Auschwitrz was not right. In my opinion it had been Poland’s then comunist government to look for a way to let “forget” that the Shoah had been a Jewish tragedy. The first negationist had been the comunists who did not want to speak about “jewish victims”..

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 17, 2014 @ 9:33 am

        • I wrote about the death of Edith Stein on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/edith-stein-a-jewish-convert-to-catholicism-who-was-gassed-at-auschwitz/

          Edith Stein was allegedly gassed in a gas chamber in “the little white house,” on the day that she arrived at Auschwitz. This was before the Krema II, Krema III, Krema IV and Krema V gas chambers were built. For years, the location of “the little white house” was unknown. Now the ruins of this gas chamber have been reconstructed.

          “The little white house” might have had a shower room for incoming prisoners and a Gaskammer for disinfecting the clothing of the prisoners, for all we know. Edith Stein might have died in the typhus epidemic at Auschwitz, for all we know. Bishop Richard Williamson is not a Holocaust expert, as far as I know. For all we know, Edith Stein might have died from a snake bite, when a snake in the grass at Auschwitz bit her on the day that she arrived. We should not assume that everyone, who died at Auschwitz, was gassed.

          Comment by furtherglory — May 17, 2014 @ 11:34 am

  3. Furtherglory wrote: “Keep in mind that Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet soldiers, so the Soviets had the opportunity to tell their story first. The Soviets arrived on January 27th, after the Germans had abandoned the camp on January 18th. The Soviet story is that the Germans sneaked back into the Auschwitz camp TWICE and blew up the Krema II and Krema III gas chambers, in order to destroy the evidence of gassing.”

    That’s the Soviet version 2.0. The first Soviet version was : “The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured, even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages.” (THE FACTORY OF DEATH AT AUSCHWITZ, February 2, 1945, Pravda, organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union – http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/Pravda020245.html)

    8,000 eyewitnesses liberated and none of them able to tell the Soviets that the alleged Nazi gas chambers were Crematoria in ruins in the Western part of the camp (Birkenau), not rooms “restructured to look like innocent garages” in the Eastern part of the camp. Amazing!

    .
    FG wrote: “I wrote about the Sachsenhausen gas chamber on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Sachsenhausen/ConcentrationCamp/GasChamber.html Don’t start denying that there was a gas chamber at Sachsenhausen; it was proved in “the Berlin trial.””

    The Sachsenhausen “gas chamber” with windows is one the best Holohoax gas chambers. It was too ridiculous, even for the Soviets. That’s why they dismantled it themselves in the early 1950’s. Speaks volumes…😉

    Comment by hermie — May 15, 2014 @ 8:00 pm

    • Thanks for providing a link to the Pravda article. This quote is from the article: “The first thing that strikes one about Auschwitz, and which distinguishes it from other known camps, is its enormous expanse.”

      The “enormous expanse” of the camp is the first hint that this was not a “death camp.” You don’t need 425 acres for a “factory of death.” The first “death camp” at Belzec was tiny.

      The International Monument is now built over a road that ran east and west at the end of the camp. Farmers going down that road could see everything going on in the camp. They could see prisoners going down that road to the Sauna, where they took a shower before entering the barracks.

      I recall reading a book, written by a survivor, before I went to Auschwitz. I was confused by her description of this road, which was no longer there when I visited the camp later, because it had been covered over by the Monument. On my first visit in 1998, the Sauna was not open and there was no information about what was inside the building. In other words, there was a deliberate effort, to cover up the truth, for many years.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 16, 2014 @ 8:44 am

      • The size of Birkenau is really quite staggering when viewed from the gate tower. It really begs the question of why so many barracks and so much infrastructure was needed for a camp where the purpose was purely to kill people

        Comment by DB — May 16, 2014 @ 9:29 am

        • Auschwitz-Birkenau had been at first time only a hard forced labour camp and then, for logistic and railway connection, reason also an Extermination Camp. Maidanek, Sobibor, Belzec, and Treblinka had been only Extermination Camps, where some prisoners had been commanded to perform some work. All the negationist fault finders can kiss my ….

          Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 16, 2014 @ 12:11 pm

          • Wolfie wrote:-
            “……only Extermiantion Camps….”

            So why didn’t they have cremation ovens to facillitate mass murder, instead of burying the dead and then digging the putrefying bodies up and burning them on outdoor fires……in the wind and freezing cold and snow of a north eastern Polish winter?

            Another joke!

            Comment by DB — May 16, 2014 @ 12:31 pm

          • Wolfie wrote: “then, for logistic and railway connection, reason also an Extermination Camp”

            You have to admit that a big railway hub like Auschwitz would have been a perfect place to dispatch forced laborers to other labor camps, depending on where they were needed. That’s why Holohoax promoters always ‘forget’ to mention that Auschwitz, the former “Corner of the Three Empires”, was a big railway hub and even depict it as a place where all the railroads of Western and Central Europe ended in order to credit their extermination story.

            Comment by hermie — May 16, 2014 @ 8:57 pm

        • DB wrote: “The size of Birkenau is really quite staggering when viewed from the gate tower. It really begs the question of why so many barracks and so much infrastructure was needed for a camp where the purpose was purely to kill people”

          According to the “Holocaust survivor” Zygmunt Gross, that’s because Birkenau was in fact “a camp where you came to learn how to be a prisoner in Auschwitz”.

          Comment by hermie — May 16, 2014 @ 8:46 pm

      • When I visited there in early ’91 there were no guides, you were free to roam where you wanted. There wasn’t however, very much information on offer either.

        It seems that with the expansion of the internet, more tourists and more skepticism they have felt the need in some cases to restrict people’s access so that they don’t wander into places that are difficult to explain

        Comment by DB — May 16, 2014 @ 1:57 pm

    • Regarding the Sachsenhausen gas chamber, I saw the Sachsenhausen Memorial Site on two occasions. The first time was in 1999, when there was no sign directing visitors to the ruins of the gas chamber, so I did not see the ruins. On my second visit, in 2001, there was a sign pointing to the location of the gas chamber. I could not understand why the Soviets tore down the gas chamber, completely destroying the evidence. At that time, I did not yet know that there was a window in the gas chamber.

      Now I understand why the Sachsenhausen gas chamber was destroyed. It was destroyed to prevent people like me from laughing out loud and making fun of it.

      BTW, it is frequently claimed that Hitler never visited any of the camps. At the Majdanek Memorial Site, when I visited it in 1998, there was an old photograph of Hitler, takne on a visit to the Sachsenhausen camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 16, 2014 @ 8:53 am

      • Do you have information on Hitler visiting the Sachsenhausen camp, furtherglory?

        Comment by hermie — May 17, 2014 @ 6:55 pm

    • No one of the “eyewitnesses left” had had then the simple force to explain things. Is this too hard for You to understand?

      Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 17, 2014 @ 9:35 am

      • What do you mean by “simple force”? Do you mean that the prisoners who were left behind, when the Germans marched the healthy prisoners of out of Auschwitz, were too weak to “explain things” about Auschwitz to the Soviet liberators?

        On this page of my website http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/Liberation2.html
        I have photos and text about the Auschwitz survivors who were healthy and photos of the survivors who talked with the Soviet soldiers.

        Comment by furtherglory — May 17, 2014 @ 11:13 am

        • The Nazis left behind may prisoniers; clealy without food or so. So for the first days they had been to weak to explain things; so I learnt from surivivors I met here at Rome. Photes could have been shot some days after the Soviet Army took care of the wurviviors, clealy in order to show their own efforts to help those unfortunate people. Clear?

          Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — May 17, 2014 @ 12:03 pm

      • Wolf M. wrote: “No one of the “eyewitnesses left” had had then the simple force to explain things. Is this too hard for You to understand?”

        How many calories would it have taken to say “Go to the Birkenau crematoria. That’s where the gas chambers were.”? 3 calories? 4? Certainly, not more calories than saying “The Nazis restructured their gas chambers to make them look like innocent garages. And they also had a homicidal conveyor belt, as well as special machines for the execution of kids.”.

        Be serious, Wolf. Your theory of “the survivors hadn’t the force to explain things” is ridiculous. The Soviets were simply still elaborating their extermination story about Auschwitz, the same way they had been elaborating their stories about Belzec and Treblinka with electrocution rooms and steam chambers during the previous years. That’s just the way atrocity propaganda works…

        Comment by hermie — May 17, 2014 @ 6:36 pm


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