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June 9, 2014

Holocaust survivor Anita Schorr educates students about bullying and bystanders

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , , — furtherglory @ 10:52 am

In a news article, which you can read in full here, Holocaust survivor Anita Schorr told 8th grade students in the Rogers Park Middle School in Connecticut about what it was like for the Jews in her native country of Czechoslovakia (now The Czech Republic) when she was a child.

I previously blogged about another talk that Anita Schorr gave to students here.  In that talk, she told the students about how the Germans had poisoned the bread at Bergen-Belsen in an attempt to kill all the prisoners before the camp was voluntarily turned over to the British on April 15, 1945.  The bread for the prisoners was baked in the SS camp that was next door to the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp; Ms. Schorr implied that the  Germans were planning to poison everyone, including all the guards in the camp, before the British arrived to take over the camp, as planned.

This quote is from the article about Anita Schorr’s latest talk to students:

Eventually, in spring 1941, the rumors proved true. Schorr and her family were herded onto railroad cars and shipped to the Theresienstadt concentration camp in the northwest part of the country [Czechoslovakia]. The 10-year-old girl accustomed to passing her days in classrooms or on snow-covered mountains learned how oppressive and consuming hunger can be, turning humans into “food hunters.”

“Hunger took over you — suddenly you couldn’t think of anything else,” she said. “Hunger takes over your ability to function, your ability to think. It takes over your ability to be a human being.”

In the morning, prisoners at the camps received a piece of bread with a pad of margarine “the size of a postage stamp.” At lunch, the meal was soup filled with vegetables no one recognized, as they “were vegetables they fed to cattle.”

Several years ago, I visited the former Theresienstadt ghetto, now the town of Terezin, where I took the photo below. I was told that the moat around the old Theresienstadt fort was used to grow vegetables when the town was a prison for prominent Jews.

What kind of vegetables were grown in the camp?  I am guessing that the vegetables were root vegetables, such as turnips, beets, parsnips and rutabagas, all of which are very good for one’s health.

Moat at Theresienstadt where vegetables were grown for the prisoners

Moat at Theresienstadt where vegetables were grown

Did Anita Schorr tell the students about what happened to the ethnic Germans in Czechoslovakia after World War II?  Probably not, so I will have to tell you.

This quote is from an article which you can read in full here.

A Brutal Peace: On the Postwar Expulsions of Germans

It was one of many ugly episodes in 1945. On a summer day in Horni Moatenice, a small town in central Czechoslovakia, 265 people, including 120 women and seventy-four children, were dragged from a train, shot in the neck, and buried in a mass grave that had been dug beside the local railway station. It was a common enough scene in Central and Eastern Europe during World War II, when Nazi extermination policies threatened entire ethnic groups. But despite the similarity of means and ends, the massacre in Horni Moatenice was different. For one thing, it occurred on June 18, after the war in Europe had officially ended. Moreover, the perpetrators were Czechoslovak troops, and their victims were Germans who had been a presence in the region for centuries.

In her latest talk to students, Anita Schorr told the students about the fact that she was sent from Auschwitz (the death camp) to Hamburg to work, picking up the rubble after the city was bombed. Anita was under the age of 15, when she arrived at Auschwitz, but inexplicably she was not sent to the gas chamber. Probably, this was another case of Dr. Josef Mengele goofing off, and not doing his job.

This quote is from the news article about her talk:

Schorr later spent time on a work crew in Hamburg when the city was being bombed five times a day and eventually moved to the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp.

Did Ms. Schorr elaborate on what the Germans endured during World War II when their cities were bombed into rubble and there was no shelter and no water or food.  No, of course not.  The Germans were bullies and bystanders and they deserved their fate.  God forbid that American students should learn anything about the suffering of the German people during World War II.

Photo of Hamburg after the city was bombed

Photo of Hamburg after the city was bombed

This quote from Wikipedia tells about the bombing of Hamburg:

The attack [on Hamburg] during the last week of July 1943, Operation Gomorrah, created one of the largest firestorms raised by the Royal Air Force and United States Army Air Forces in World War II,[2]killing 42,600 civilians and wounding 37,000 in Hamburg and practically destroying the entire city.[3] Before the development of the firestorm in Hamburg there had been no rain for some time and everything was very dry.[4] The unusually warm weather and good conditions meant that the bombing was highly concentrated around the intended targets and also created a vortex and whirling updraft of super-heated air which created a 1,500-foot-high tornado of fire, a totally unexpected effect.

Another source puts the number of civilians killed in the bombing of Hamburg at 44,600.

Bomb damage in Hamburg, Germany

Bomb damage in Hamburg, Germany

To put the bombing of civilians in Hamburg into perspective, there were around 31,000 prisoners who died, of all causes, at Dachau, another 30,000 who died at Sachsenhausen and another 30,000 who died at Buchenwald.  So the Allies killed more German civilians in one bombing raid, than the Nazis killed in any of the three main camps in Germany during all the years that the camps were in existence.

But why should students in America today be told about German civilians being killed?  Today, it is only the suffering of the  Jews that Americans should know about, so that it will never happen again.

This final quote is from the news article about Anita Schorr’s latest talk to students:

More than 70 years later, speaking to middle-school students as she often does, Schorr reiterated the atrocities committed by the Nazis were rooted in the same type of behavior children engage in daily — bullying.

“This is the beginning of tragedy,” she said. “You can ruin a nation by bullying or you can ruin a person by bullying.”

More than anything else, her message was to take an active role against injustice, no matter how small.

“It has to be stopped, and you can stop it,” she said. “You have to commit yourself that you won’t be a bystander.”

26 Comments »

  1. The Nazism had amny root also in the bullying against Jewish students at Universities; many professors had been, at least, bystanders.
    Ar Terezin we received food which had to certifiied as being of low quality”. Thje soups certaInly had not been made with KNORR products.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 12, 2014 @ 2:43 am

  2. i wrote a comment a couple of days ago stating that unlike the Soviets and the Americans the British never fabricated a ” gas chamber” in any of the camps they overran in 1945.
    The Black Rabbit has now posted a very valuable video showing that they did ! The IWM ” historian ” Lyn Smith interviews a British soldier who testifies to actually having been in a Belsen gas chamber!.This is the same Lyn Smith who vouches for the authenticity of British Hero of the Holocaust medal recipient Deni Avey. Well I suppose she has to make a living.
    Another brilliant find by Black Rabbit.

    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/the-belsen-gas-chamber-described.html

    Comment by peter — June 12, 2014 @ 1:46 am

  3. What about the bullying, intimidation and physical attacks on holocaust revisionists. This woman has nothing to say about that – http://www.ihr.org/books/ztn.html

    Comment by Les — June 10, 2014 @ 11:34 pm

  4. Stalingrad and Warsaw were not “bombed”, but heavily shelled from all kinds of artillery in the period of 1942-1945 by both Russians and Germans.

    Comment by Gasan — June 10, 2014 @ 9:17 pm

    • I’m sorry, but that is ridiculous. The Germans deployed air fleets on the eastern front to support operations, and Stalingrad was most certainly heavily bombed. In fact, the Germans had enough air capability in the vicinity that Goering was able to credibly boast that the Luftwaffe could supply the besieged troops by air. Which of course never began to happen — weather and Russian anti-aircraft fire helped to scuttle the absurd idea that a quarter of a million fighting men could be supplied by air over hostile territory. And of course Warsaw was bombed as well.

      Comment by eah — June 12, 2014 @ 12:53 pm

      • True that

        Comment by Schlageter — June 13, 2014 @ 9:59 am

  5. The Germans had bombed only military-producing factories in Coventry, England.

    “An estimated 568 people were killed in the raid (the exact figure was never precisely confirmed) with another 863 badly injured and 393 sustaining lesser injuries. Given the intensity of the raid, casualties were limited by the fact that a large number of Coventrians “trekked” out of the city at night to sleep in nearby towns or villages following the earlier air raids. Also people who took to air raid shelters suffered very little death or injury. Out of 79 public air raid shelters holding 33,000 people, very few had been destroyed.[13]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_Blitz

    Should we compare 568 Englishmen killed in legitimate air-raid against military target with 135,000 Germans killed in the City of Dresden with absolutely no military installations in February of 1945?

    What kind of “holocaust” was that?

    Comment by Gasan — June 10, 2014 @ 8:43 pm

    • “The Germans had bombed only military-producing factories in Coventry, England.”

      Sorry again, but that is nonsense — “only”. There was enough industry in and around Coventry to justify the raids on military grounds, but that’s about all you can say. Back in those days bombing was just not that precise, and certainly part of the objective was to destroy the physical infrastructure needed to support urban life. A piece I read some time ago said it well: When collateral damage was the point

      Comment by eah — June 12, 2014 @ 1:04 pm

  6. Bombing of German was part of the war – They bombed coventry, Stalingrad and Warsaw so you as Bomber Harris, my hero said : ‘you sowed the wind, now you will reap the whirlwind.

    Comment by Toro Bull — June 10, 2014 @ 10:46 am

    • Of course, you are right: the Germans started it, so they deserved to have every one of their cities bombed into rubble.

      I blogged about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/13/the-bombing-of-coventry-and-dresden/

      I blogged about the bombing of Dresden at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/more-self-flagellation-by-the-germans/

      Comment by furtherglory — June 10, 2014 @ 1:09 pm

      • “the Germans started it, so they deserved to have every one of their cities bombed into rubble”

        You are absolutely right to (sarcastically) highlight the gross disproportion in the bombing (although had the Luftwaffe not been fully occupied on the eastern front Hitler would have retaliated more forcefully). And Dresden was an absolute atrocity — there is no other word for it. Dresden was bombed in Feb, 1945, just weeks before the war would end — the Russians had already crossed the Oder into German territory, and German resistance in the west had all but collapsed and the Allies would very soon cross the Rhine. Dresden was full of German civilian refugees who had fled the Russian advance. Absolutely no military justification whatsoever. Just pure terror.

        Comment by eah — June 12, 2014 @ 1:20 pm

        • Ummmm…the Russians were in German territory long before they crossed the Oder…

          Comment by Schlageter — June 13, 2014 @ 10:02 am

          • Yes, you are right — my mistake. The border before the war was somewhat to the east of where it is now (the Oder). Also you have to count East Prussia.

            Still, the main point remains.

            Comment by eah — June 15, 2014 @ 12:46 pm

    • You’re right to be proud of your hero and his bosses, Toro Bull. Such a combination of barbarity and hypocrisy is not something easy to achieve.

      “It is one of the greatest triumphs of modern emotional engineering that, in spite of the plain facts of the case which could never be disguised or even materially distorted, the British public, throughout the Blitz Period (1940-1941), remained convinced that the entire responsibility for their sufferings rested on the German leaders.” Advance to Barbarism, F.J.P. Veale.

      “It may be Inconvenient History but England rather than Germany initiated the murderous slaughter of bombing civilians thus bringing about retaliation. Chamberlain conceded that it was “absolutely contrary to International law.” It began in 1940 and Churchill believed it held the secret of victory. He was convinced that raids of sufficient intensity could destroy Germany’s morale, and so his War Cabinet planned a campaign that abandoned the accepted practice of attacking the enemy’s armed forces and, instead made civilians the primary target. Night after night, RAF bombers in ever increasing numbers struck throughout Germany, usually at working class housing, because it was more densely packed.” The Peoples’ War, Angus Calder. London, Jonathan Cape, 1969

      “Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly three months after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian targets. Hitler would have been willing at any time to stop the slaughter. Hitler was genuinely anxious to reach with Britain an agreement confining the action of aircraft to battle zones… Retaliation was certain if we carried the war into Germany… there was a reasonable possibility that our capital and industrial centres would not have been attacked if we had continued to refrain from attacking those of Germany… We began to bomb objectives on the German mainland before the Germans began to bomb objectives on the British mainland… Because we were doubtful about the psychological effect of propagandist distortion of the truth that it was we who started the strategic bombing offensive, we have shrunk from giving our great decision of May 11th, 1940, the publicity it deserves.” J.M. Spaight, CB, CBE, Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry, Bombing Vindicated.

      “The attack on the Ruhr was therefore an informal invitation to the Luftwaffe to bomb London. The primary purpose of these raids was to goad the Germans into undertaking reprisal raids of a similar character on Britain. Such raids would arouse intense indignation in Britain against Germany and so create a war psychosis without which it would be impossible to carry on a modern war.” The Royal Air Force, 1939-1945, The Fight at Odds, p. 122. Dennis Richards, Her Majesty’s Stationery Office.

      “The inhabitants of Coventry, for example, continued to imagine that their sufferings were due to the innate villainy of Adolf Hitler without a suspicion that a decision, splendid or otherwise, of the British War Cabinet, was the decisive factor in the case.” F.J.P. Veale, Advance to Barbarism, p. 169.

      “Three-hundred times as many people died in Hamburg during the ten-day blitz as died in Coventry during the entire course of the war… Not even Hiroshima and Nagasaki, suffering the smashing blows of nuclear explosions, could match the utter hell of Hamburg.” Martin Caidin, The Night Hamburg Died, Ballantyne Books, NY, 1960.

      “They [the British Air Chiefs] argued that the desired result, of reducing German industrial production, would be more readily achieved if the homes of the workers in the factories were destroyed; if the workers were kept busy arranging for the burial of their wives and children, output might reasonably be expected to fall… It was concentrated on working class houses because, as Professor Lindemann maintained, a higher percentage of bloodshed per ton of explosives dropped could be expected from bombing houses built close together, rather than by bombing higher class houses surrounded by gardens.” Advance to Barbarism, F.J.P. Veale.

      Damages caused by WW2 bombings: http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/7f51b3f2844fb6b8561a394ccea3576d.jpg

      Inventing cartoonish Nazi “death factories” was the least Allied butchers could do to depict themselves as the good guys of WW2. The icing over the cake was to photograph and film the result of their own bombing Policy in the last operational German concentration camps and call that a ” proof of Nazi barbarity” (http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=65620). The sign at Belsen naming the numerous unburied victims of typhus and typhoid found there “an example of Nazi kultur” makes me laugh every time…😉

      Comment by hermie — June 10, 2014 @ 7:24 pm

  7. THE VEGETBKE PRODUCE AT tEREZIN WERE FOR THE SS quarter’s kitchen; certainly not for the imprisoned Jews who had to east soups made with the “vegetable like powdr”.
    Not even Mengele and Assoiates could every time tell apart a 14 years old girl from one of a 13 year old one.
    You cannot blame Ms Shoor for the errors of a too busi journalist who wrtoe that article. We cann doscuss on Ms Shoor’s speach only on the nase of the whole transcript of thr “lesson”:

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 9, 2014 @ 1:11 pm

    • The moats around Theresienstadt were quite extensive, so I think that there was plenty of room to plant vegetables for the prisoners. You can see photos of the moats on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/TheresienstadtGhetto/GhettoTour/Tour01.html

      I have never heard of “vegetable like powder,” but maybe there was such a thing in Germany during the war. I think that “vegetable like powder” would have been more expensive than planting vegetables in the moats and having the prisoners work in the gardens in the moats.

      Ms. Schorr was from a rich family and was not accustomed to eating root vegetables. If she had been given powdered soup at Theresienstadt, she would have mentioned it, because this would have been something new to her.

      Comment by furtherglory — June 9, 2014 @ 2:16 pm

      • ìI stood at Terezin for 26 moths until the LIberation. I remember very well the grey, yellow, green coloured soups made with the powders the Germans had invented already during WWI.I; certainly not with the vegetable produced there.which, obviousaly, had to delivered to the SS Quarter. In USA you have no right idea about nazi hatred against Jews, derving from the bullying at Universities an d High Schools for decades. So Mrs Schoorr is right to mention this subject.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 11, 2014 @ 9:14 am

        • Wolfie wrote:-

          “I remember very well the grey, yellow, green coloured soups made with the powders the Germans had invented….”

          Please tell us about these invented powders, I for one am keen to know more

          Comment by DB — June 11, 2014 @ 11:00 am

          • I looked up powdered, or dry, soup and found that Knorr dried soup was invented in Germany in 1873. http://www.knorr.com/article/detail/245640/brand-history

            However, I think that dried soup would have been too expensive to feed to the concentration camp prisoners. My family did not eat dried soup. It was so much cheaper to plant vegetables in a garden.

            According to the USHMM website: “Inmates [at Auschwitz] were always hungry. Food consisted of watery soup made with rotten vegetables and meat, a few ounces of bread, a bit of margarine, tea, or a bitter drink resembling coffee.

            Theresienstadt was supposed to have the best conditions of any of the camps. Yet, the prisoners were eating dried soup, while the Auschwitz prisoners were eating “rotten vegetables and meat.” It is not clear to me whether just the vegetables were rotten, or whether the meat was also rotten.

            I wonder why so many of the Holocaust survivors have lived to advanced age after eating rotten food or dried soup for many years.

            http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007718

            Comment by furtherglory — June 11, 2014 @ 11:17 am

            • Interesting.

              I can’t however picture in my mind the Germans mixing powdered soup for the camp inmates….seems comically strange

              Comment by DB — June 11, 2014 @ 11:32 am

              • Butter and coffee were both scarce and expensive in America during World War II. Most people used margarine which was white, and looked like lard; it had to be mixed with coloring that came with it. A lot of people used a coffee substitute. My family used real coffee, but it was made very thin, since coffee was very expensive during the war. During the war, everyone in America was encouraged to have a “victory garden” so no one, that I ever knew, used powered vegetables. Almost everyone had a cellar where they stored root vegetables, such as turnips, carrots, potatoes, rutabegas, etc. On my website, I have a photo of the “root cellar” at Buchenwald.

                Comment by furtherglory — June 11, 2014 @ 12:30 pm

        • “In USA you have no right idea about nazi hatred against Jews, derving from the bullying at Universities an d High Schools for decades” yes! yes! by virtue of geographically living in North America, we are completely clueless about European history and politics. Cant comment on moon landings or space exploration either.

          Comment by schlageter — June 12, 2014 @ 6:35 am

          • Schlageter wrote: ” yes! yes! by virtue of geographically living in North America, we are completely clueless about European history and politics. Cant comment on moon landings or space exploration either.”

            That’s Wolf Murmelstein’s classical way to ‘debate’ and promote his lies. He calls every “Holocaust denier” or “Holocaust skeptic” an American unware of Europe’s politics, demographics, culture and geography. I guess he assume that that ‘argument’ will convince the most naive readers of this blog that he and his fellow Jews are the only ones allowed to talk about the “Holocaust” and who know that topic. And when he’s told that his opponent is not American (like me) and/or know what he’s talking about, M. Murmelstein just flies away for a while and comes back a little later with the same empty tricks, as if nothing had happened. In fact, he really ‘debates’ like a Jew as described by Hitler in Mein Kampf. Funny…😉

            Comment by hermie — June 14, 2014 @ 6:01 pm

  8. Was the carpet-bombing of residential areas in German cities bullying? C’mon, now!

    Comment by Jett Rucker — June 9, 2014 @ 12:29 pm

  9. There’s been a lot of bullying of both Germany and the Palestinians over the last 69 years.

    Google “all human behavioral traits are heritable.”

    Presumably that includes bullying-and lying.

    http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/24238-leaving-the-uss-liberty-crew-behind

    …In apparent fear of the Israel Lobby and not wanting to offend the Israeli government, U.S. officials including the Navy have refused to come clean on what happened 47 years ago. The mainstream U.S. media has been a willing partner in this failure to face the facts and demand accountability.
    No Accident
    Here, for example, is the text of an intercepted Israeli conversation, just one of many pieces of hard, unambiguous evidence that the Israeli attack was not a mistake:
    Israeli pilot to ground control: “This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?”
    Ground control: “Yes, follow orders.” …
    Israeli pilot: “But, sir, it’s an American ship – I can see the flag!”
    Ground control: “Never mind; hit it!”

    Comment by fnn — June 9, 2014 @ 11:17 am

  10. “You can ruin a nation by bullying or you can ruin a person by bullying.” she said.

    Bullying ?

    Quite. The you-will-believe-the-holocaust-and-all-the-bullshit-that-goes-with-it-or-else philosophy seems to use that method to excellent effect

    Comment by DB — June 9, 2014 @ 11:07 am


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