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July 5, 2014

German pastor Jobst Bittner thinks today’s Germans have “original sin” and “collective guilt” for the Holocaust

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 7:00 am

Tubigen, Germany

The photo above shows Tübingen, a famous city in Germany, where Jobst Bitter taught at the University.  Thankfully, these old buildings were not destroyed by Allied bombing in World War II. This photo is shown, along with an article, which you can read in full here.

The article, which is entitled “The Contours of Contrition” is about present-day Germans, who are born with guilt for the Holocaust; all Germans have original sin on their souls because of the Holocaust, according to the article.

1. According to the teachings of the Catholic Church, every human being is born with “original sin,” and must be baptized to get rid of his or her guilt.

2. According to the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal, every German citizen, alive in 1945, had “collective guilt” for war crimes committed by the Germans during World War II.

Put these two ideas together, and it means that, according to Jobst Bittner, every German person is now born with the “original sin” of “collective guilt” and there is no baptism that will remove this guilt.  The Germans must forever pay for their sins by bowing down to the Jews.

The Germans have been paying reparations to the Jews ever since the Holocaust, and they will continue paying, as long as there is a country of Germany.   Germany is filled with monuments to the Jews, and more will be built.  The Jews will never get enough revenge.

I can’t think of a better way for the Jews to cause more harm to themselves.

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I previously blogged about another Holocaust committed by the Germans in the year 1290:


  1. Active Jews after holocaust have masked the inhuman nature of German national socialism that planned the hundreds of the Holocausts of various peoples(Slaves and others). They covered their cannibalism by use of commonly adopted antisemitism. The German culture as a whole is waning because of its agricultural and continental roots.The envy to West European marin, trade and more free culture created the merchant-hate, and the Jew-hate as the consecuence with the racial Jewish defects as the cause.German guilt has cultural roots.

    Comment by PermReader — April 16, 2015 @ 5:08 am

    • Thankfully, the Russians have never done anything wrong in the entire history of the world. This includes the Russian Jews who now inhabit Israel, of course.

      What a wonderful world we would have today if there had never been any Germanic people. Don’t worry, when Germany runs out of money to pay billions trillions of reparations to the Jews, the ethnic Germans will all be killed.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 16, 2015 @ 9:09 am

      • You forgot to mention “Papa Joe”. Stalin was a heckuva guy. He was just misunderstood ( probably the last kid picked at kickball in school and that damaged him for life). How about our good friend “Pol Pot”? What about the idiot running the show in Guatemala ? He wants every last Myan Indian eradicated. I know that for a fact. One works for me. His little girl is getting married in September. guess what ? He can’t give his baby girl away. He’s told me about the times he was picked up and bounced around. Either he left or he’d end up in an unmarked grave. The more I read on this subject,the more I’m finding out its BS. Tell the Jews ,” Walmart sells balls. Go buy a pair.” All the other ethnic groups that have been through this,don’t sit around pissing and moaning. They get on with their lives. You something bad,probably did happen in Europe,WW2. It’s the methods and bloated numbers they’re saying happened,that I don’t buy anymore. This is the magnum opus for the Jews right here. When it comes to the holocaust,they’re the only ones who got f**ked . Whatever. Why don’t they mention the millions of other lives that were taken? They wanna sit on their pity pot boo hooing away. They want the spotlight on them. Why ain’t they trying to educate people about genocide? It’s taking place somewhere as we speak. Probably the only reason everyone is going along with this BS,is because no other country would allow the Jews past their borders. These countries go along with the Jew fairy tale and they get off the hook for telling them to shove off when they tried to get into their country. Well that and history is written by liberals

        Comment by Tim — April 16, 2015 @ 1:34 pm

  2. You really do not like Jews,do ya? Tell ya what. Drop the Jewish issue. Lets go after a country that is so consumed by white guilt that they elect a black president over that issue alone. There’s a constructive issue for you to deal with. It’s demonstrable however you would not understand that topic. You see,our president has hung out with bill ayers. However when the proverbial push came to shove,nobody called him down on it. You figure that one out . Come on . Your killing me with this crap. You’re splitting hairs here. This guy was guarding a certain section of this compound so it makes him “immune ” from prosecution? I guess the smell of burning flesh didn’t carry that far. He knew what was going on. It’s demonstrable he turned the “blind eye” to this criminal behavior. I’ve no bad feelings towards the Krauts. Only the ones involved in wholesale slaughter of the Jews. You say they’re still erecting monuments and memorials to the Jews in Germany . Far as I’m concerned the “post WW2 ” Krauts have nothing to be ashamed of. They weren’t the ones murdering the Jews. Gee whiz Wally,that kinda sounds like another country I can think of. America . My generation. My daddy’s generation,had nothing to do with slavery. Yet here I am,still having to pay for it. Try writing something about that slick. You probably wouldn’t ,because it sounds like you’re another ” cry me a river” liberal.

    Comment by Tim Mose — July 7, 2014 @ 10:55 pm

    • The old worn antisemitism & Holohoax trick in order to make any opponent shut up. Not again. Come on, Timmy…

      Comment by hermie — July 8, 2014 @ 6:00 pm

      • TIMMY ! I love that one. Being called Timmy don’t bother me. It (TIMMY! ) is a character from a show. All right,lets get down to the proverbial “brass tacks”. Wether they’re Jews or not has nothing to do with the price of tea in china. I don’t like to see murderers walk. Dear ol uncle adlophs belief that Jews were less than human and the fact he didn’t like them,is nothing new. Shakespeare (no. Not Shakespeare fishing equipment ).Merchant of Venice …..Shylock the Jew. Yeah. The way ol billy wrote that character,you could see the stereotypes were around long before we walked this planet. Difference here,William didnt advocate killing Jews . If the mass murder of Jews was that of a few people fine,but this was policy of a nation. I’ll say they should’ve prosecuted them on how they did away with gypsies,homosexuals and those who were shall I say,” less than competent “( I would say retarted,but I would probably offend any libs that might be reading this). Max Schmelling was supposed to be Alophs “savior” . That was until he gave Joe Lewis a rematch. Kinda shot the “superior race” concept all to s**t. There was a post on here about how camp survivors are talking to school kids about their “nightmare”. I’m gonna deduce they are probably school kids from age 16 on up to and including college. The Jew in question was accused of embellishing the facts. Basically said the jew was lying. This is “not ” verbatim . It was written this person never had this happen to them or it didn’t happen at all. Now. This person is in his or her mid to late 80’s. endured a horrific ordeal that it was quite demonstrable,almost surreal. Now all these years later,the individual obviously consented to relate their experience . It’s quite possible that the person may have a hard time recalling what happened . Have you ever been in a life or death struggle? This person lived day to day,not knowing if their number was up or not. I did my tour in Southeast Asia back in ’68 to ’69. My first fight was the fight for Dong Ha. I ain’t gonna lie to ya. I s**t and pi**ed all over myself. My first firefight. The dinks wanted us dead. Around ’86 ( not positive ) I saw in the back of my American Legion magazine,the boys were having a reunion. I hadn’t seen them since I left ‘Nam. I got there and we eventually got around to talking about the battle. My memory versus the facts of that Lil party,the facts one. I was a cherry. Focused on just wanting to stay alive ,that I was gettin a few things wrong. Losing control of my bodily functions was very clear. Other things not so clear. I spent a fair amount of my time over there,bored senseless. I feel I can safely say they didn’t have that luxury. First time I shot a dink,everybody was in celebration. Yeah. Silence his gun before he silenced mine. I was justified killing that man. I still took the life of another human being. I just wasn’t seeing it from their view. Juxtapose me and the jew. I’m surprised the jew even wants to talk about the camps. If the facts come out a bit wrong,don’t be surprised. I don’t think I’d want to remember anything about a camp if I was a Jew back then and a guest At uncle Adolph’s racist version of Club Med. No if there’s any krauts out there that were involved In anyway ( I don’t care if they were paper pushers ) with the persecution of the Jews ,drag ’em into court. I don’t give a damn if they in a wheelchair,knocking on deaths door or whatever. Put em trial. If found guilty,punish them accordingly . Otto Von Bismarck quoted one time,”anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield ,will think hard before starting a war” . What does that have to do with the Jews you ask. Good question Beavis. Look into the glazed eyes of a dead jew. Then tell them they are not entitled to justice. I don’t care how late it is coming. These Krauts had a lifetime. What did their Vics get? Death. Somehow don’t seem like a good deal

        Comment by Tim — July 9, 2014 @ 7:35 am

  3. The collective guilt you talk of is indeed present in most Germans, though not from birth. They are laden with it from school days as it is heaped upon them for being terrible people who committed the worst crime in history. I had a close neighbour/friend from Germany once. Klaus was 60 years of age and when I tried to discuss the holocaust with him he nearly fainted. He was so uncomfortable about discussing it and wouldn’t accept that Germany was stitched up by the allies. He wanted to carry the guilt for the holohoax. Very sad.

    Comment by Clent — July 5, 2014 @ 10:06 am

    • I wrote a blog post about how today’s German teenagers are forced to study the Holocaust and visit the former camps:

      Fortunately, today’s American children are not forced to visit the former camps where German-Americans were held. AFAIK, those camps have not been preserved; German-Americans were held in these camps for two years AFTER the war.

      Japanese-Americans are bitter about being put into internment camps during the war, but AFAIK, German-Americans are not bitter.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 5, 2014 @ 10:55 am

      • Did you forget about the part where the German POWs were pretty much helping out the war effort by working “minimal risk” jobs. Here’s the real ball buster. Some were let outside the camps on the honor system. They could eat in restaurants ,our own black soldiers could not eat in. They were totally impressed with the Pullman cars that carried them to their POW camps. They loved being here. 2 squares a day. Lets not forget,we were following the Geneva Convention a helluva lot more carefully than we should’ve been. Lets not forget the “Wereth 11” . So we held some for up to 2 years post WW2. Given what they had to go back to,they probably didnt mind. Lets not forget,Papa Joe (Stalin ) thought it would be a nifty idea to hold quite a few of his German POWs for up to,10 years after the war. Why would we want the school children to visit german pow camps. There was no one being murdered there. I guess have them visit these camps so they can see how a properly run pow camp works. The only problem there,good luck finding one. The ones we had in Texas here have gone “adios”. Face it. The Krauts had it made here. How many of our boys do you think the nips and krauts let out of the facilities they were held at during the war on the honor system? Yeah. I was thinking zero too

        Comment by Tim Mose — July 7, 2014 @ 11:31 pm

        • You wrote “So we held some for up to 2 years post WW2. Given what they had to go back to,they probably didnt mind.”

          I was not referring to German POWs when I wrote that “some were held for two years after the war.” The people that were held for two years, in internment camps in America after the war, were American citizens of German ancestry, and German citizens who were captured in South America, where they were living. I was not referring to German POWs in America.

          Comment by furtherglory — July 8, 2014 @ 9:28 am

          • You’re correct sir. I do apologize. Right here in these open pages . I’ve no problem admitting if I was wrong. My presumptuousness,
            Got the better of me,without following the facts (that were written) closer.

            Comment by Tim — July 9, 2014 @ 7:45 am

    • The collective guilt you talk of is indeed present in most Germans,…

      I’ve never sensed much of it, at least in individuals. It’s more a kind of ‘Holocaust correctness’ among the politically and socially prominent (which is also enforced by absurd laws against ‘denying the Holocaust’, and ‘inciting racial hatred’), which perhaps creates the impression of a wider sense of ‘collective guilt’ among Germans. Further Holocaust-related payments are approved by these same prominent people — government ministers, and by vote in parliament (Bundestag). But I bet were Germans allowed to vote on it they would reject paying more money to self-proclaimed ‘Holocaust survivors’ etc.

      Comment by eah — July 5, 2014 @ 11:57 am

      • In contrast, Americans feel no guilt for anything. We took this country away from the Native Americans, and put them on reservations. We brought Africans to American and enslaved them. Americans committed war crimes in World War II and more crimes in Vietnam. Yet, Americans feel no guilt for anything.

        Comment by furtherglory — July 5, 2014 @ 12:55 pm

        • We feel no guilt? You gotta be s**tin me. How do you think we ended up with a 2 term socialist,jew hating,not to mention has well know. Ties to bill ayers (if any other presidential candidate had ties to ayers,he would’ve been told sorry. You’re out) ,who can do what ever he feels and no one questions his actions . Guilt was how he got elected. Geez Louise ,wake up. I will agree with you on the Native American issue. Yet they were still loyal Americans . My momas side of the family is pure Blackfoot Nation. My first wife was of the Sioux nation

          Comment by Tim Mose — July 7, 2014 @ 11:46 pm

      • I agree with you a 100%. Money will not bring back the dead. Trial in open court. If the facts find the individuals that may be on trial guilty,then punish them according to the jurisdiction that the court in question would come under. The generation that came post WW2 had nothing to do with the nazi crimes . I saw a young lady on TV a few years back. She’s a resident of Berlin . She was close to tears. She said she was ashamed to be a German . Far as I’m concerned she had no reason to be. She had nothing to do with the nazi atrocities .

        Comment by Tim — July 9, 2014 @ 7:59 am

    • Few years ago I met three German students here in the States and talked to them about Germany and pride they should have being Germans. The girl became very defensive and started to talk about how bad was the regime of National-Socialists.
      But, both boys were listening to that discussion with a great interests.
      Hope, I opened their minds just a little bit.
      The younger generations will wake up very soon.

      Comment by Gasan — July 6, 2014 @ 2:22 pm

  4. …”But there was one enduring effect of the incident that has been of great benefit to the citizens of New York and probably to many others, nearly all of whom are unaware of it. Col. Paley decided that in the future he never wanted to be without Colonel Minary’s advivce-no matter what. So, several months later, when he resigned his army commission he resumed his duties as Chairman of CBS, Mr. Paley persuaded Colonel Minary to come with him. For the next 40 years Mr. Minary once again Councelor Minary, sat in a suite of offices near those of Chairman Paley in the CBS Building in new York. Formally he was in charge of the Paley Family Investments and Paley Foundation charities” – W. Phillips Davison A Personal History of WWII; How a Pacifist Draftee Accidently Became a Military Government Official in Postwar Germany. Paley (a Jew) took over as the head of SHAEF PWD (Psychological Warfare Department) in the absence of General McClure whose diplomatic duties kept him away from the Berlin HQ. At the end of the war the PWD had been moved from London to Paris to Berlin and was in charge of the de-Nazification of Germany. German “collective guilt” was in place before it was established by ex-post facto international law at the Nuremburg IMT. It was a disciplinary problem for the American occupation forces. GIs who had seen buddies killed in battle and were hopped up on training films and atrocity propaganda churned out by OSS field photography units took their anger out on civilians. The Russian occupation forces were officially encouraged to kill and rape them. Davison writes about German “collective guilt” and screening OSS/Hollywood atrocity propaganda films (Death Mills etc.) in German movie houses to civilians. He was a sociologist who went to work for the RAND corp after the war and came up with the “Third Person Effect” in mass communications. By 1945 American and British propaganda had become a hard science. The Paley Foundation’s estimated worth today is 180 million dollars.

    Comment by who dares wings — July 5, 2014 @ 8:57 am

  5. This is, presumably, the same original sin and collective guilt carried by every American for the holocaust unleashed upon the Native Americans some years ago. Common sense and irrefutable logic determines that a child born today i the United States is indelibly stamped with that sin and that guilt, no matter the racial origins of the child. The fact that the child was not actually involved in the slaughter perpetrated against the Native Americans is of trifling significance, and has no bearing whatever upon his or her guilt.

    I am naturally similarly burdened with the horrors unleashed by British governments over the centuries. I can never hope to atone for their actions.

    One problem is that modern politicians are almost queuing-up to make public apologies for events wholly unconnected with people today. It is utter nonsense, but probably what we might expect from the vermin that forms much of the political class.

    Someone should advise American pastor Jobst Bittner to shut up and get a life. No German alive today has anything to apologise for or about.

    Comment by David Neale — July 5, 2014 @ 8:48 am

  6. Why am I not surprised to see that people who believe in a ridiculous thing such as soul also believe in a laughable horror tale such as the “Holocaust”? Both are fully based on faith and blindness after all… 😉

    Enough childish beliefs! Grow up, pastor Bittner!

    Comment by hermie — July 5, 2014 @ 8:08 am

  7. fnn wrote:-

    “….a favorite Soviet tactic against dissidents: anyone whose political views differed from theirs was insane….”

    Oh yes quite right, just look at how intolerant the luvvy duvvy cultural marxists in the UK become if you dare to have a different opinion to them

    Comment by DB — July 5, 2014 @ 7:37 am

  8. Interestingly, neither John Demjanjuk nor Johann Breyer was German, at least not at birth. But they did/will die in Germany, imprisoned. Sins of the fathers, indeed.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — July 5, 2014 @ 7:23 am

  9. In the West, Christianity has been close to 100% replaced by Holocaustianity-cum-cultural Marxism. You can see this in its early stages in the 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality:

    …Some observers have criticized what they saw as a strongly politicized agenda to The Authoritarian Personality. Social critic Christopher Lasch[26] argued that by equating mental health with left-wing politics and associating right-wing politics with an invented “authoritarian” pathology, the book’s goal was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy—by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum.” Similarly, Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Zizek wrote, “It is precisely the kind of group loyalty, respect for tradition, and consciousness of differences central to Jewish identity, however, that Horkheimer and Adorno described as mental illness in Gentiles. These writers adopted what eventually became a favorite Soviet tactic against dissidents: anyone whose political views differed from theirs was insane. […] Christian self-denial, and especially sexual repression, caused hatred of the Jews [according to Adorno et al.].”[27]

    The Authoritarian Personality remains widely cited in the social sciences and continues to inspire research interest today.[28]

    Comment by fnn — July 5, 2014 @ 7:14 am

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