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January 16, 2015

Wikipedia does not mention the gas chambers at Dachau

Filed under: Dachau, Holocaust — Tags: — furtherglory @ 11:59 am

Update Jan. 18, 2015

Wikipedia has a page about the “Dachau massacre” which is called a “reprisal.” The Dachau massacre was actually a war crime, which Wikipedia should describe truthfully.

I blogged about Wikipedia’s mistaken page about the Dachau massacre at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/04/27/dachau-liberation-reprisals-another-term-for-the-dachau-massacre/

Continue reading my original post:

I was alerted, by a reader of my blog, to the fact that Wikipedia does not mention a gas chamber at the Dachau concentration camp.  I checked it out and found out that it is true — no mention of a gas chamber at Dachau.

Of course, there was a gas chamber at Dachau! How many people have served 5 or more years in prison for denying that there was a gas chamber at Dachau?

I find it very strange that Wikipedia leaves out the gas chamber at Dachau because there was not just one gas chamber at Dachau but four gas chambers that used Zyklon-B, a poison gas.

When American troops arrived at Dachau, they were shown the four gas chambers at the end of the Barracks-X building, which were used for disinfecting the clothes to kill the lice that spread typhus.

An American soldier stands beside the door into a gas chamber at Dachau

An American soldier stands beside the door into a gas chamber at the Dachau concentration camp

Notice the sign on the door, which says “Gaszeit” and the skull and crossbones with the word “Gas” under it.

The official Army report mentioned the “gas chamber” found by American soldiers at Dachau in April 1945.

My photo of the same gas chamber door that is shown in the previous photo

My 2007 photo of the same gas chamber door that is shown in the previous photo of the Dachau gas chamber

On the right in the photo above, taken in May 2007, is the same door that is shown in the 1945 photo above. This door, which opens into a disinfection chamber, shown in the center of the photo, has been bolted to another door. On the left is another door into one of the four disinfection chambers at Dachau. A sign above the door on the left tells visitors that these are disinfection chambers where the clothing of the prisoners was disinfected to kill the lice that spreads typhus.

After Dachau was liberated on April 29, 1945, the official report of the US Seventh Army was printed as a book entitled Dachau Liberated: The Official Report by The U.S. Seventh Army, Released Within Days of the Camp’s Liberation by Elements of the 42nd and 45th Divisions.

The Official Report was based on two days of interviewing 20 political prisoners at Dachau; the prisoners told the Americans that both the shower room in the Baracke X building,  and the four disinfection chambers were used as homicidal gas chambers.

The following quote is from The Official Report:

“When the American troops arrived on 29 April 1945, there were approximately 32,500 estimated internees of all nationalities, the Poles predominating. During this period, the camp was notorious for its cruelty, but within the last six or eight months, some ‘token’ improvement was noted in the treatment of the internees. However, the new crematorium was completed in May 1944, and the gas chambers, a total of five, were used for the executions and the disposals of the bodies.”

The Baracke X building and the five gas chambers were actually completed in May 1943.

Clothing that has been disinfected at Dachau

American soldiers examine clothing that was disinfected at Dachau

The American soldiers, shown in the photo above, had never heard of using poison gas to kill lice. At that time, America was using DDT for this purpose. Typhus had been completely wiped out in America and most of these soldiers had never heard of it; they didn’t know that typhus is a contagious disease spread by body lice.

They saw the word “gas” written on the 4 disinfection chamber doors, and assumed that these were the infamous gas chambers used for killing the Jews. They saw the deloused clothing hung up and assumed that the prisoners had been forced to undress and hang their clothing on a hanger before entering the disinfection chambers to be killed. It had been common knowledge throughout the world since June 1942 that the Nazis were murdering millions of Jews in gas chambers.

My 2007 photo of sign above a disinfection chamber at Dachau

My 2007 photo of sign above a disinfection chamber at the Dachau Memorial Site

In spite of the fact that the sign above this disinfection chamber clearly states that it was one of the “Fumigation cubicles,” tour guides tell tourists that Jews were herded into these chambers to be killed by gassing.

When I went to Journalism School, back in the Dark Ages, we were taught “false in one, false in all.”  In other words, one mistake and your readers won’t believe anything you say.  That’s why Wikipedia should mention the “gas chambers” at Dachau.

21 Comments »

  1. We just visited Dachau ourselves and it was an extremely powerful place. Aside from having a very early morning epiphany, we took a LOT away from there. Thank you for your good posts!

    Comment by Chalen Tretiakova — March 18, 2015 @ 12:08 pm

    • Nice blog, but I noticed a couple of mistakes in your description of Dachau.

      You wrote: “the same gate the prisoners marched thru from the train tracks only yards away.”

      On this page of my website, I wrote about the tracks near the Arbeit Macht Frei gate: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/KZDachau/DachauLife01A.html

      This quote is from that page of my website.
      Begin quote
      Most visitors assume that the tracks on the left side of the photo above were railroad tracks on which trains loaded with prisoners arrived at the camp. These tracks were actually narrow gauge tracks used to transport material to and from the factories; the prisoners had to walk 3 kilometers to the camp from the railroad station in the town of Dachau. There are now 12 posters along the route from the station to the camp which tell visitors what happened as the prisoners walked through the town.
      End quote

      Some of the tour guides might tell visitors today that the prisoners came to the Dachau camp on trains, but this is wrong. The prisoners arrived at the train station in the town of Dachau and had to walk to the camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 18, 2015 @ 2:01 pm

      • Thanks for the correction! You were right about some of the tour guides being incorrect.

        Comment by Chalen Tretiakova — March 18, 2015 @ 2:07 pm

    • On your blog, you show a photo of scratches on a gas chamber wall. This photo was taken at Auschwitz; the Dachau gas chamber has walls made of brick.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 18, 2015 @ 2:17 pm

  2. On :

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dachau_concentration_camp

    You will find pictures of the Dachau “gas chamber”. I know for a fact wikipedia also used to have a picture of the “gas chamber” with the (in)famous sign in it that it was never used as a gas chamber but that picture seems to be removed.

    Comment by Question everything — February 18, 2015 @ 8:14 am

    • I have blogged about the Dachau gas chamber many times: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/dachau-gas-chamber/

      The link that you gave does not have any good photos of the Dachau gas chamber. You have to get up pretty early in the morning to get a photo of the Dachau gas chamber before it is crowded with tourists, who are shuffled through so fast that they can’t really get a good look at the room.

      Comment by furtherglory — February 18, 2015 @ 9:27 am

      • This has absolutely dick to do with the topic at hand. Why is it everybody had such a hardon for making sure that they had plenty of evidence,right down to the smallest detail when it came to the Jews? On the other hand you had the incident at Malmedy and to this day ,nobody knows what really happened. Yes they prosecuted a bunch of German soldiers,but they didn’t go after them with the same zeal they had with the nazis that were in on killing the Jews . Murder is murder period. They had people boo hooing on both sides for Peiper and his buddies. No body was saying dick about the people being tried for bumping off the Jews . I’m just trying to figure this out. That’s all. I don’t care if it was the Jews or the Wereth 11. The killers in both trials should’ve been prosecuted with the same amount of exuberance. Not going all out at one trial and making a halfass attempt at the other one.

        Comment by Tim — February 18, 2015 @ 10:35 am

  3. My point exactly. Like the old adage goes,”history is written by the people who write it”. It’s all obfuscation and you don’t get the truth. Better part of the population are the “sheep led to slaughter “. Then you get people that come along (in this case,the person that runs this site) and say,” wait a minute,that’s not how it stacked up at all”. It’s nice to know there’s still people around that are willing to say,” that’s not what happened and I’ve got the facts to prove it.” Keep up the good work.

    Comment by Tim — January 28, 2015 @ 5:32 am

  4. Thank you for posting accuracy in writing, yes I am a FOX news watcher/person as well. Watching the Special Report about the 70th Anniversary, it made me question a memory from June 1983(Mid-America Band and Choir) when I toured the Dachau Concentration Camp. For some reason I am thinking that sometime, maybe the 1960’s or 1970’s they DID use the ovens again. Once for some Rabbi Priests{there was a nice plaque(maybe triangle)tribute to them} and another time used for a Nun. I was doing my search and ended up here. Thanks again for truth in writing.

    Comment by Kathie — January 27, 2015 @ 4:36 pm

  5. Everything is not as it seems and all the world is a stage. Last Sunday we had a march in Paris organised by the media and government for ” Freedom” . Now if you watched it on CNN or the BBC you would have thought that all the ” world leaders” were at the front of the march…in fact they assembled nearly 2 miles away and walked on their own down a side street.
    Understandable you might say on security grounds but still deceitful propaganda. Likewise the Dachau ” gas chamber” which came straight from Hollywood props .

    http://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Staatschefs-marschieren-abseits-der-Millionen-article14311851.html

    Comment by peter — January 18, 2015 @ 9:47 am

  6. Comment by hermie — January 17, 2015 @ 7:38 am

    • The third YouTube video is excellent. The narrator pronounces the word Dachau almost correctly. I can’t say the word properly myself. Each time, that I went into the Dachau gas chamber to take photos, I waited until I could be alone in the room. I did not join a tour group, for fear that I would burst out laughing and get arrested.

      Comment by furtherglory — January 17, 2015 @ 8:47 am

      • Maybe the narrator pronounces the word Dachau correctly because he was a ‘German’ Jew who had left Germany only a few years earlier and who was there to make a propagandistic revenge with shameless lies on the guys having compelled his family to leave the Reich. I don’t know if the narrator was indeed a German-born American Jew, but many Ritchie boys were.

        Comment by hermie — January 18, 2015 @ 8:57 am

    • Excellent videos. Thanks for putting up these links.

      One thing that people today may not realize is that people in America, and in the rest of the world, were not as sophisticated as people are today. Most people had no idea what a gas chamber was, and showers were not as popular as they are today. Most people were taking their Saturday night bath in a galvanized wash tub. Many people were living in houses that had dirt floors.

      So it is understandable that many people believed in gas chambers in the concentration camps. I had the advantage of knowing what a gas chamber was because I lived in Missouri which had one of the very few homicidal gas chambers in the world.

      Comment by furtherglory — January 17, 2015 @ 8:59 am

      • The recent reversal in the official narrative about the Dachau homicidal ‘gas chamber’.is interesting, because it shows that authorities can label any inocuous room a gas chamber for political purposes. Evidence – I mean real evidence – is not required to do that. No new evidence was brought to turn the Dachau gas chamber “never used as a gas chamber” into a gas chamber where “individual prisoners and small groups” were murdered with poison gas. The new sign just claims that “survivors have testified that the SS did” it. But those survivor testimonies were already known when the camp-museum authorities and orthodox historians denied the Dachau homicidal gassings. As far as Dachau is concerned, orthodox historians patently found during 4 décades that testimonies alone were no evidence of past homicidal gassings. So why do they regard testimonies uncorroborated by any physical evidence as undeniable evidence of homicidal gassings at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, etc. ? Why are their evidential standards so inconstant? Are their evidential standards based on factors other than political bias and carreerist concerns?

        Comment by hermie — January 18, 2015 @ 9:29 am

  7. furtherglory wrore: “They saw the word “gas” written on the 4 disinfection chamber doors, and assumed that these were the infamous gas chambers used for killing the Jews. They saw the deloused clothing hung up and assumed that the prisoners had been forced to undress and hang their clothing on a hanger before entering the disinfection chambers to be killed.”

    They assumed nothing, FG. They were brought there en masse by Uncle Sam’s military leaders and they were delieberately told those things by guys of the Psychological Warfare Division (PWD) of SHAEF for propaganda purposes. The dead bodies of the typhus mega-epidemics raging there and in other camps of the collapsing Third Reich helped the PWD sell that lie quite easily.

    Comment by hermie — January 17, 2015 @ 7:21 am

    • You are correct that thousands of American soldiers were brought to Dachau to see the gas chambers and the dead bodies. I wrote about this on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauLiberation/aftermath02.html

      This quote is from that web page: “A small museum was immediately set up in May 1945 in the Dachau crematorium building by Erich Preuss, an enterprising former prisoner, who earned money by charging a small admisison fee. A set of 10 photographs of Dachau were on sale at the Museum. On the orders of Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, thousands of American soldiers were brought to Dachau to see the gas chamber and crematory ovens. The dead bodies found in the camp were kept for weeks so that as many American soldiers as possible could see them, and after that the bodies in the morgue in the crematorium building were replaced by wax dummies, so that the American soldiers could learn about the Nazi atrocities. This museum was finally closed in 1953 after German citizens of Bavaria complained about the gory display.

      One of the men who was brought to Dachau, on General Eisenhower’s orders, on May 1, 1945, only two days after the liberation of the camp, was Technical Sergeant Robert Parker Woodruff, a soldier in the 42nd Rainbow Division. A letter which he wrote home to his parents was published by a newspaper in his home town, Eau Claire, Wisconsin,….” (Go to my website to read the letter that he wrote to his parents.)

      Comment by furtherglory — January 17, 2015 @ 8:36 am

  8. It’s demonstrable wiki is run by liberals. They give you “their” version of history. I’d hate to see their write up on why we bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima .

    Comment by Tim — January 17, 2015 @ 5:19 am

  9. I think the (homicidal) gas chambers have . . . disappeared. As for when, whether and how the disinfection gas chambers may make their appearance, I predict they will – likely after my lifetime, which might be pretty soon, now (I’m old).

    Comment by Jett Rucker — January 16, 2015 @ 4:42 pm

  10. When you go to a Wikipedia entry there are always two buttons on the left at the top. One says “article” (which you are viewing) and next to is “talk”. If you click on the “talk” button a new page comes up that contains the discussion among the Wiki monitors and posters about how they arrived at the information there. Some pages have more back and forth than others. Some are censored completely. Here is the “talk” page for Wikipedia’s entry for Dachau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dachau_concentration_camp

    Comment by who dares wings — January 16, 2015 @ 12:36 pm


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