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April 8, 2015

Eugen Seibold quoted by Carlo Mattogno in an article about the Dachau gas chamber

Filed under: Uncategorized — furtherglory @ 10:13 am

There is a lively discussion going on in the Comments section of my blog, concerning the height of the ceiling in the Dachau gas chamber. I wrote a detailed report on the Dachau gas chamber on this page of my scrapbookpages.com website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/history02.html

One of the readers of my blog pointed out an article, written by Carlo Mattogno, which seems to indicate that Mattogno, the foremost expert on the Holocaust, believes that the ceiling of the Dachau gas chamber was not changed by the American  liberators of Dachau.

I translated the article, written by Carlo Mattogno, using Google translate. You can read the original article at

http://olodogma.com/wordpress/2015/02/27/0982-carlo-mattogno-sulla-camera-a-gas-di-dachau/

This quote from Mattogno’s article is from Google translate:

Begin quote

Continuing research on the “gas chamber” at Dachau, I acquired new documents that require a total overhaul of the thesis that I indicated in my first article (see here / 0982).

The first issue is whether the ceiling of the alleged “gas chamber” is an American-made or if it was planned that way from the beginning.

In the previous article I wrote that “the plan [of the new crematorium at Dachau] shows more clearly six grids flow of water on the floor of the room, which was 3 meters high, as all the locals of this part of the crematorium, as reflected in the section AB. “In addition to this, as I will explain now, there is another section of the CD, but the plan does not indicate the location of these sections.

Based on the declaration of Eugen Seibold and the relationship of the US Congress on May 15, 1945, and consequently having the certainty that the original ceiling of the “gas chamber” was 3 meters high, I have not given due importance to these two sections and I attributed the height of 3 meters, which appears in the section AB in the whole left side of the crematorium (ie up to the furnace room).

End quote

Eugen Seibold was a Kapo at Dachau. He testified for the prosecution at the trial of the SS men at Dachau

Eugen Seibold was a Kapo at Dachau. He testified for the prosecution at the trial of the SS men at Dachau

The photograph above shows Dr. Fritz Hintermayer, on the left, wearing a card with the number 10 around his neck. Dr. Hintermayer was one of the men on trial in the Dachau Trials conducted by the US Military after World War II.

The man on the right, in the photo above, is Eugen Seibold, a former prisoner in the camp; he is pointing to Dr. Hintermayer, who was one of the SS doctors at Dachau. Dr. Hintermayer was one of several accused men, who claimed that he was coerced into signing a confession by Lt. Guth, who was on the American prosecution team.

Eugen Seibold was one of the Kapos at Dachau; he was one of the workers in the crematorium whose job it was to put the dead bodies into the cremation ovens. He could potentially have been among the accused himself if he had not agreed to testify for the prosecution as a paid witness, as one of the defense attorneys pointed out during the trial.

Ironically, one of the defendants who testified that he was tortured by American military officers was Johann Kick, who was charged with the specific crime of torturing prisoners in the Dachau bunker between January 1, 1942 and April 29, 1945. Kick was the head of the political department at Dachau from 1937 to 1945. He testified about being tortured by Jewish interrogators at Dachau on November 29, 1945, the same day that a film about the Dachau gas chamber was shown at the Nuremberg IMT. This film was not shown at the “Dachau trials” because it was unknown whether any of the victims had been civilians or military personnel, who were citizens of an Allied country during the period of time that America was at war with Germany

[…]

The prosecution called over 100 witnesses to the stand; at the end of his presentation, Lt. Col. Denson called several of the Jewish interrogators to the stand. All of them denied using any force or coercion to obtain confessions from the accused. Supposedly, the accused had voluntarily signed confessions admitting to the most ignominious atrocities, such as making human shrunken heads or fashioning handbags out of human skin, with the knowledge that they would surely receive a death sentence for such crimes.

My photo of a pipe going from the undressing room into the gas chamber at Dachau

My photo of a pipe going from the  Dachau undressing room into the gas chamber at Dachau

My photo of the undressing room wall at Dachau shows the electrical wiring near the ceiling; just below the wiring is a pipe which enters the south wall of the gas chamber where there are two “top vents.”  If the poison gas had been mixed in the room below and rose through these top vents, as stated in the Chavez Report, the pipe shown in the photo might have been the means of bringing the gas to the vents inside the gas chamber. However, there is no similar pipe that enters the north wall of the gas chamber where two more “top vents” are located..

I must admit that I have not translated the entire article written by Mattogno, so I don’t know if he did any research on Eugen  Seibold to determine the truth of his PAID TESTIMONY, given to save his own neck.

11 Comments »

  1. You have linked the wrong Mattogno article. He came to opposite conclusions from his 02/27 paper in his 03/27 paper:
    http://olodogma.com/wordpress/2015/03/14/0996-carlo-mattogno-e-la-camera-a-gas-di-dachau-nuove-prospettive/

    You should not link the first without the second which is much much better.

    Everything is still somewhat sketchy to me at this point in time. But the 2 top vents were claimed to be connected by Pressac thusly:
    http://olodogma.com/wordpress/2015/03/14/0996-carlo-mattogno-e-la-camera-a-gas-di-dachau-nuove-prospettive/dachau-5-2/

    I need to go over this paper with a fine-toothed comb to get a full picture of the claims flying around about that room. It is very difficult to know what is being said by Mattogno with the google translate version. Mattogno himself is not clear on the exact way to interpret this room. He’s going with that it was a shower room. But his evidence for that is stinko. So it is still unclear at this time.

    Comment by blake121666 — April 8, 2015 @ 3:13 pm

    • The second paper was from 03/12, not 03/27 as I wrote above.

      Comment by blake121666 — April 8, 2015 @ 3:16 pm

    • I should add that the Pressac story is silly though. Read that Mattogno paper to see what silliness was said about these “gassings”.

      Comment by blake121666 — April 8, 2015 @ 3:24 pm

  2. The links that you give validate the theory that the roof was not lowered but was found at that height by the US ” liberators ”
    ” It really was a gas chamber, a LOW ceilinged room about 30 feet square” , Chicago Daily Times, April 30, 1945 by Howard Cowan.
    This shower room was being used as a morgue at the time; Almost 100 naked bodies were stacked neatly in the barren room with cement floors. They had come from a room on the left marked “brausebad” for “shower bath.” From the story in the News York Times, April 30, 1945 by Associated Press War Writer, Howard Cowan

    The original shower decontamination room had been transformed into a morgue sometime in 1944, and was kept cool by what was hidden behind the palisade.
    ” The original Report of the Atrocities Committed at Dachau Concentration Camp, signed by Col. David Chavez, Jr., JAGD, 7 May 1945, made no mention of the bins and described the screen as a “Wooden shed believed to contain a pump or compressor.” The wording of the Report implies that no one went into the “wooden shed” to see if the pump or compressor “believed” to be hidden there was actually there.

    This was subsequently removed by the US army and the bins put in their place so the story could be maintained.

    Comment by peter — April 8, 2015 @ 3:11 pm

    • The bin sequence you describe makes a lot of sense to me Peter. It’s not clear to me that the bins were there or whether the Americans added them. I am inclined to believe, as you, that these were added by the Americans given that there are no early descriptions of them. That middle hole appears to have been original though. BRoI has very early pictures which appear to show that concrete touch-up. You’ve probably read it already; but we had interesting discussions about this on RODOH:

      https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2064

      Comment by blake121666 — April 8, 2015 @ 3:22 pm

      • blake wrote: “The bin sequence you describe makes a lot of sense to me Peter. It’s not clear to me that the bins were there or whether the Americans added them. I am inclined to believe, as you, that these were added by the Americans given that there are no early descriptions of them. ”

        Couldn’t the bins be seen in the U.S. propaganda movie about Dachau if these bins had already been there when U.S. propagandists shot that movie? Who would shot a movie about a gas chamber without filming the gassing devices??? Nonsense…

        Comment by hermie — April 9, 2015 @ 6:40 pm

        • Yes, that’s what I meant. There were a number of short little propaganda films about Dachau at the time. One of the first showed clothes hanging outside the delousing chambers and claimed that prisoners were unclothed and gassed in the delousing chambers! I hope to find time to get a better handle on all of the claims flying around. I plan to get a better understanding of that Mattogno paper over the weekend. I read it but I am not as clear as I’d like to be about what it says; and I am certain that I have misunderstood key parts of it.

          Comment by blake121666 — April 10, 2015 @ 4:57 am

          • Probably the main reason why I am so interested in this subject is all of the excellent info FG has brought out on his blog, btw. Thanks FG for all of the good work you are doing here!

            Comment by blake121666 — April 10, 2015 @ 5:00 am

  3. This is all very interesting but surely we have seen a film or at least pictures showing the gas chamber ceiling before and after it being altered? I am fairly certain I have seen these.

    Comment by Clent — April 8, 2015 @ 10:29 am

    • Sorry you are wrong. There is no before and after film as you claim.
      My feeling is that US psychops were up to purloining pathology specimens from Jena university and getting Billy Wilder to make some Horror movies but lowering the ceiling was not in their repertoire. It was that height when the US ” liberators” arrived, and was originally constructed as a gas /chemical , shower and decontamination room.

      Comment by peter — April 8, 2015 @ 12:37 pm


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