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June 1, 2015

The Oskar Gröning trial exposes the banality of evil that was the Holocaust

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , , — furtherglory @ 8:21 am

A news article in The Daily Beast, which you can read in full here, starts off with this quote:

The trial of the SS bookkeeper from Auschwitz exposes not only the banality but the bean-counting that was integral to the Holocaust.

The term “banality of evil” was a term made famous by Hannah Arendt, who reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann. Now the term is being used to describe the crime committed by Oscar Gröning, who counted the money taken from the Jews at Auschwitz.

Hungarian Jews arriving at Auschwitz-Birkenau where Oskar Groening  was collecting  the luggage

Hungarian Jews arriving at Auschwitz-Birkenau where Oskar Groening was collecting the luggage

This quote is from the news article:

Shortly after he arrived, Gröning was assigned to supervise the luggage collection from incoming transports. Gröning, responsible for counting the money and shipping it to Berlin headquarters, has spoken at the trial about his impressions: “You would be surprised to know with how many valuables the Jews arrived there.” As testimony from survivors makes clear, they had brought as much of their wealth as they could in the deluded hope they might thus save their lives.

Gröning’s crime was that he counted the money that the Jews had brought with them in the hope that they might be able to buy their way out a death camp.

But that was not the worst crime that Oskar committed.

This quote from the article describes his worst crime at Auschwitz.

He says, “there were people who made themselves comfortable with silk sheets to sleep in… Whatever the Jews brought with them.” Gröning soon learned to spot who had money and who did not. “With the travelling Poles there was nothing to be found,” he recalled, “but the Hungarian, we knew, had big bacon.”

Can you believe this? Oskar Gröning admits that he stole silk sheets from the luggage of the rich Hungarian Jews, and slept on those sheets himself. For that crime, he deserves life without parole, but because of his advanced age, he will probably not serve any prison time for this great crime.

But forget all that. This quote from the article reveals the worst crimes at Auschwitz:

In another example that demonstrates his incapacity to contextualize, Gröning told Fuchs [the prosecuting attorney] how he was helping fellow SS men find escaped prisoners when he arrived at a barracks. There he witnessed an SS man throwing Zyklon B, the gas used for mass killing, down a chute. Inside he heard cries that became louder until suddenly they stopped. When Fuchs asked him why the death of a baby bothered him, but not the many in the gas chambers, Gröning explained: “For me, it was no different from what was happening at the front. What happened in Auschwitz, I thought was right. That’s what I was taught from the age of ten onward.” Only having to witness the excesses, the bashing to death of an infant, was too much for him. That’s why he repeatedly asked for the transfer.

Did you catch that? Besides witnessing the bashing of a baby to death, Oskar also witnessed an SS man throwing Zyklon-B into a barracks building to disinfect the building. The Nazis were trying to save lives by using Zyklon-B to kill the lice that spread typhus.

This quote is also from the news article:

The trial of the SS bookkeeper from Auschwitz exposes not only the banality but the bean-counting that was integral to the Holocaust.

Week after week the German court reveals in graphic detail the smoothly run murder machinery behind “the final solution,” the Nazi effort to exterminate Europe’s Jews.

End of Story.

“—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.”

[John Keats Ode to a Grecian Urn]

16 Comments »

  1. The “Holocaust” exposes the banality of Gentile gullibility…

    Comment by hermie — June 4, 2015 @ 8:14 am

  2. Testimony of a woman who was actually gassed at Auschwitz and lived to tell the Dancing With the Stars judges about it. http://infotextmanuscripts.org/djetc/bialek.pdf

    Comment by who dares wings — June 1, 2015 @ 6:20 pm

  3. I thought the Hebs were told they were going to work camps. Why would they worry about money to save them? This man pretty much worked in the property. It’s demonstrable that the the idiot that wrote this article along with everyone in this court don’t realize one thing. When you get locked down,your personal shit is inventoried and taken. Shipping the money to Berlin makes sense. I got locked up one time. The money I had on me was deposited at the bank the sheriffs department dealt with. When I got cut loose,they gave me a check for my money. “Buy their way out”. If all the money is going to B town,how the hell they gonna buy their way out? Another question here. How the hell this man gonna get a fair trial? He’s being tried in Germany . They’ve turned into nothing but a bunch of candy asses. Someone should tell Germany ,”Walmart sells balls. Go buy a set”. Henry Lee Lucas,BTK killer and charley Manson . I didn’t care for them,but they were guaranteed a fair trial. The Krauts may as well dig up Torquemada. Prop him up in the judges chair and let him run the show.

    Comment by Tim — June 1, 2015 @ 10:04 am

  4. FG. Is the “Odessa File” real? It was one of the first movies I saw when I got back from ‘Nam. It popped in my head cause my sister sent me some pics of me when they were at the airport to meet me when I got home from Southeast Asia . If it is real,have any of the Hebs went after those people? I know it was a movie and a book,but I’ve not found much on it. I heard somewhere Himmlers daughter runs an outfit called “silent help”. It’s rumored she’s somehow connected with Odessa. I’m the type of person who can figure out after a fair amount of study,if something’s BS or not. When it comes to the Hebs,nothing is clear. To much obfuscation.

    Comment by Tim — June 1, 2015 @ 9:23 am

    • The Odessa File is a novel. You can read about it on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odessa_File

      However Simon Wiesenthal did try to track down former Nazis. I wrote about him on several blog posts, including this one: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/fake-pictures-by-simon-wiesenthal/

      and on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/simon-wiesenthal/

      Comment by furtherglory — June 1, 2015 @ 9:36 am

      • The reason I asked FG was because o read something about Himmlers daughters organization working with Odessa. Like I said when it comes to this subject its hard to tell fact from fiction. I read somewhere that big daddy jew was tracking jews. I also read somewhere that he said after ’54 or ’56 it was getting to be pointless tracking jews.

        Comment by Tim — June 1, 2015 @ 10:09 am

        • Skorzeny and assorted allies ran Germans and fellow travellers out for years to many, many safehouses ending in such places as Tri Border, Syria and Colonia Dignidad. Everyone holds their hands up and wails about the evil of it all. No one ever seems to spend time looking at the UK Jewish Brigade/UN running Germans and their fellow travellers for many, many years to safehouses in Palestine ending in such places as Dimona. It is clear that the Holohoax is a time served cover to disguise Rothschild’s arming of his firebase with the bomb he paid for starting 1935 or so. The cover story has been handed over to team Marx Brothers to run with as long as they can continue taking the piss from the west. It doesn’t matter if it is revealed, what are you going to do about it now that every western polity is a house of bought and paid for house eunuchs. Mission accomplished long ago and now Tel Aviv has pivoted to the East. Getting locked up for a fiction is sweet as far as Roth is concerned. How dare you even look in his direction.

          Comment by thestoker — June 2, 2015 @ 12:50 am

          • Thanks. I’d never heard of Skorzeny. The article I read about him had a bit irony to it. It said they were trying to nail him and his men for wearing the enemy uniform . A Limey SOE man was going to testify against this man. Then he realized if he did that he and men would be up the proverbial,”creek”. Seems they pulled the same stunt. So why didn’t anyone ever hear of the people who helped nazis escape being put on trial. I mean from what I’ve seen and read,the Hebs wanted as much blood as they could get. I know it’ll never happen ,but the jews got as dirty as everyone else. I read something on a website that detailed the kidnapping of Adolph Eichmann. The jew idiots that snagged Adolph said they stashed him in a safe house in Buenos Aires for 5 or 6 days. Then they hauled him outta there to an “El Al” charter . Then they flew home to the “emerald city”. There’s no way in hell anybody would ever file charges on the for international kidnapping,but has anybody ever made mention of this case? This whole deal with the nazis is nothing more than the double standards. Von Braun. Did he not use slave labor at his factories to build his rockets? Yes I know we wanted him bad. Did anyone ever question him about this? Didn’t the jews want jews want him ? I’m gonna surmise in order to keep Von Braun over here,we paid a boatload of “hush money” to the Jews. Does that sound right ?

            Comment by tim — June 2, 2015 @ 1:56 pm

            • In order to forget who killed all the Slavs by 1930 the guys in charge i.e. those several layers above Dulles and above Norman and Schacht, had to concoct various cover stories after the USofA proved inconveniently strong post 1941. Cold War and Holohoax being prime examples. Always remember that the original plan had everyone from the Rhine eastwards dead and Red by 1942. Everyone west of the Rhine would be pink socialist, then red. So we live in the alt. Plan B or Plan C history narrative with all those loose ends still sticking out needing hidden from the initial stages of Plan A. All the Jews had to do in Plan A was betray and steal then move to Tel Aviv. The Germans queered the plan after Stalin went rogue late 1940. As for Eichmann I believe his trial was hermetic, i.e. heavily disguised Soviet show trial, and no mention was made of him being escorted around Palestine by terrorist Zionists in 1938 or so plotting further trade, immigration and war against UK. I believe that Israel had to keep its head down in order that no one in USofA corp. got to read that the Samson option was a 1930s plan for Tel Aviv. Just go look at the weapons suppliers to the Zionist fire base immediately after 1945 and one gets a little echo of the original Plan A’s kosher Ho Chi Mihn trail out of central Europe.

              I mean can you imagine a late 1940s USofA corp. citizen hearing that the area that they had just spent gazzillions of bucks, thousands of B17s and P47s, thousands and thousands and thousands of GIs liberating, the area where their forefathers came from was planned to be a radioactive hostage to Tel Avivi!!? All the Paperclip boys and then the Soviet dissidents brought into USofA corp. didn’t say a word. There are no good guys and bad guys in this story. Just the dumb ass voters of the west who paid for it all through their taxes.

              Have a look through my continuing ramblings at specificgravy.blogspot.com for further probings into all these loose ends. Loose ends that puzzle on closer examination.

              BTW Plan A is still operational the only change is in the scale. USofA corp is now part of its scope.

              Comment by thestoker — June 3, 2015 @ 12:45 am

  5. 1- One ought to consider the nazi education system and the training in the HITLER JUGEND – Nazi Youth. 2 In Auschwitz and other Death Camps Zyclon B had been used for the killing on humans in the Gas Chambers certainly to save lives by killing lices.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 1, 2015 @ 8:43 am

    • You can see the Hitler Youth on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=20&v=3C9iUaP51CI

      Comment by furtherglory — June 1, 2015 @ 9:15 am

      • Sorry fir my above mistake: I meant “… certainly NOT to save lives by killing lice,”Indeed, one of the ways to exterminatw prisoniers had been the diffusione of deseases and lice. To suppose that the Nazis wanted to save lives shows a very poor knowledge of the Nazi doctrine.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 1, 2015 @ 10:00 am

        • If the Nazis didn’t want to save lives, why did they disinfect the clothing of the prisoners? I wrote about the disinfection of the clothing at Auschwitz on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/why-was-there-a-sauna-at-auschwitz/

          I wrote about the disinfection gas chambers at Dachau on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/disinfection-chambers-at-dachau/

          Comment by furtherglory — June 1, 2015 @ 10:55 am

        • Wolf,

          As you certainly must know by now, there is no forensic evidence whatsoever that the Nazis used Zyklon-B to kill Jews (or anyone else, for that matter). In fact, every attempt to find such evidence — eg by looking for cyanide residue in the alleged gas chambers — has failed. (And those who reported these results were put in jail.) The evidence is largely based on the claims of eyewitnesses, nearly all of which can be placed somewhere on a kind of truth scale between obvious lies and highly implausible nonsense.

          Not to mention the absurd, physically impossible claims about cremation.

          Comment by eah — June 1, 2015 @ 11:15 am

          • Usually if someone is to handle chemicals,on a scale this toxic,wouldn’t they be trained how to handle it and first aid for it? Things of that nature .

            Comment by Tim — June 1, 2015 @ 1:02 pm


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