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June 27, 2015

The British version of what happened at Bergen Belsen

I am blogging today about a news article, which I read this morning on the Internet: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/11701738/The-survivor-and-the-liberator-Two-tales-of-the-horror-at-Bergen-Belsen.html

The news article begins with this quote:

The survivor and the liberator: Two tales of the horror at Bergen-Belsen
As The Queen visits 70 years on, the notorious Nazi concentration camp is still in the minds of Captain Eric Brown and Rudi Oppenheimer

Captain Eric Brown was a British soldier, who was apparently in charge of the Belsen camp, after the camp was VOLUNTARILY turned over to the British because there was a typhus epidemic in the camp.

This quote is from the news article:

Begin quote

For Captain Eric Brown, it is the stench of Bergen-Belsen that remains with him 70 years on.

Capt Brown, 96, was already a legendary Royal Navy test pilot in 1945, and was at an airfield near Hanover assessing captured German aircraft the day before Belsen was liberated by [being voluntarily turned over to] the British.

Fluent in German, he [Captain Brown] was asked if he could spare just one day to help interrogate the commandant of the camp, SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Josef Kramer, and his assistant Irma Grese, both of whom were later hanged for war crimes.

He [Captain Brown] said: “When we arrived the camp guards were all lined up and they were handed over to us and in we went. While the brigadier went to find Kramer and Grese, I had a wander round. [Kramer and Grese had met the British at the gate into the camp and had volunteered their help. They had been immediately arrested and thrown into the camp prison.]

End quote

Joseph Kramer was immeditely arrested after he met the British at the gate and offered is help

Joseph Kramer was immediately arrested after he met the British at the gate and offered his help

Sign at the gate into Bergen Belsen warned that there was a typhus epidemic

Sign at the gate into Bergen Belsen warned that there was a typhus epidemic

The quote from the article continues with this statement by Eric Brown:

Begin quote

Then I went to the interrogation. Kramer was a stocky chap, he looked like a bully boy. He had come from Auschwitz, where his job had been to separate new arrivals into the ones that were to be worked to death and the ones that went straight to the gas chambers. [and you thought that it was Dr. Josef Mengele who decided who would be worked to death and who would die in the chamber.]

“I asked him [Kramer] if he would do it again if he had his time over again, and to my astonishment he said yes. [Did Kramer mean that he would serve his country, if he had to do it over again, or did he mean that he would send Jews to the gas chamber at Bergen-Belsen if he had it to do over again.]

“Irma Grese was probably the worst human being I have ever encountered. She also worked at Auschwitz and I asked her the same question I had asked Kramer. She refused to answer, but I kept asking it, and after I’d asked her four or five times she suddenly leapt to her feet, cried “Heil Hitler!” sat down and refused to answer any more questions.” [Bad Irma! She refused to incriminate herself.]

End quote

Josef Kramer looked like a

Josef Kramer looked like a “bully boy” but was probably not a bully

Irma Grese after she was capured by the British when she volunteered to help

Irma Grese after she was captured by the British when she volunteered to help

Few people would challenge a man who looked like Josef Kramer. I strongly suspect that he was not a “bully boy.”

On my scrapbookpages website, I wrote extensively about Bergen-Belsen.  On this page, I wrote about the camp being turned over to the British: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/BergenBelsen/BergenBelsen05.html

41 Comments »

  1. Herr Herrmie!
    At Theresienstadt the works ordered by Eichmann to set up the Gas Chamber had been stopped. The only one holding the necessary authority had been Karl Hermann Frank High SS Comander and Governor of Bohemia Moravia.
    Furthermore, in a crowded – two or three hundred persons – air tight well closed chamber Zyklon B is letal in few minutes.
    Then Your remarks are espressed in a very ill manered way.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 1, 2015 @ 12:24 pm

    • Once again, you repeat one of your previous claims like a Parrot without bringing any solid evidence to back it up.

      Seems 100% inconceivable for you that Goyim dare request real evidence from you and doubt your Chosenite’s baseless allegations. Funny.😉

      Comment by hermie — July 1, 2015 @ 11:54 pm

      • Herr Hermie! Are You a specialist in Gas Chamber building? When so for which power are You presently working?

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 2, 2015 @ 3:13 am

        • “Herr Hermie! Are You a specialist in Gas Chamber building?”

          No, I’m a biologist and an agronomist, so somebody with a serious scientific background (including in chemistry) who likes laughing at testimonial ‘evidence’ and the other UFO-like ‘evidence’ supposed to prove the “Holocaust”.😉

          “in a crowded – two or three hundred persons – air tight well closed chamber Zyklon B is letal in few minutes.”

          According to Bruno Tesch, the co-inventor of Zyklon B, no Zyklon B is even needed to kill all the people crowded (in densities as high as the ones described by Holo-‘witnesses’) in an airtight room. Suffocation (due to a lack of oxygen) would have killed all the people crowded in such rooms after 20 or 25 minutes. (Any engineer designing airtight air raid shelters could confirm this.) And without any ventilation needed after each mass slaughter, so making the killing rate of such “suffocation chambers” even higher than the one of your beloved Zyklon gas chambers.

          Comment by hermie — July 3, 2015 @ 8:35 am

      • Herr Hermie! At the outbreack of WWII – in 1939 – there had been great Jewish Comunities in Central, Eat and South Europe. Where did those comunities disappear? Overcrowding in the Ghettoes, mass executions, deseases, force labor, starvation, gas van using oil exhaustion did not “work” fast enough. So the “special treatment” using Zylon B in airthigt Gas Chambers had been started. Clearly, before retreat, the Nazis destructed as many traces as possible and meaningfull remains of Gas Chamber had been found only at Auschwitz Birkenau. The main point now is not to discuss about forensic evidences but to prevent new tragedies like the two Wordl Wars. I understand that a Nazi – are You a Nazi? – would not care to prevent outbreack of new mass tragedies as his docrtine is based on letal hatred aiming the destruction – mass murder or enslavering – of other races.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 2, 2015 @ 3:32 am

        • “At the outbreack of WWII – in 1939 – there had been great Jewish Comunities in Central, Eat and South Europe. Where did those comunities disappear? ”

          I’d answer: where they are today: Israel, United States, Canada, England, France, Australia, new Zealand, etc. (the liquidation of the Jewry of Central and Eastern Europe and its transfer to Eretz Israel had been the goal of Zionists for decades before WW2 after all; Jabotinsky’s “evacuation plan” of 1936 was just the most radical form of that goal in its implementation) Minus the number of people, Jews and non-Jews, who died of different causes (battlefields, bombed cities, war-linked epidemics & starvation, reprisals, massacres on both sides, etc.) during WW2. Or in other words, the same causes as the ones which prevailed during the previous world war and most wars since the birth of mankind.

          “Clearly, before retreat, the Nazis destructed as many traces as possible and meaningfull remains of Gas Chamber had been found only at Auschwitz Birkenau.”

          Clearly, there are no physical evidence of Nazi homicidal gas chambers anywhere in the world today. Glad you at least admit that.

          And the “meaningful remains” of gas chambers at Birkenau were in fact so meaningless that the Soviets, after capturing Auschwitz, first located the famous Auschwitz-Birkenau gas chambers at Auschwitz III (Monowitz) instead of Auschwitz II (Birkenau) and its crematories.

          Soviet propagandist Boris Polevoï, February 2, 1945 (6 days after the capture of Auschwitz), in the Soviet national paper Pravda:
          [quote]The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured, even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages.[end quote] (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/Pravda020245.html)

          In the eastern part of the camp (i.e. Monowitz)? Not in the western part of it (i.e. Birkenau)? Quite a big surprise.

          Restructured so that they would look like innocent garages? Not dynamited so that no criminal traces would be found? Really?

          Thousands of inmates just liberated and visibly none of them showing those alleged “meaningful remains” at Birkenau to their Soviet liberators. hmmmmm…

          ” I understand that a Nazi would not care to prevent outbreack of new mass tragedies as his docrtine is based on letal hatred aiming the destruction – mass murder or enslavering – of other races.”

          National Socialism was based on nation (in a racial meaning) and social engineering as its names says. It implied no wars or mass murders. It implied the erasure of the most blatant injustices of the Versailles treaty and the neutralization of the Jewish alien within the German nation. Ironically, democracy is synonymous with “enslavering”, as putting 98 or 99% of non-Jews under the heel of a Jewish plutocracy of 1 or 2% is slavery while the liberation of the Gentile masses from that plague is real freedom. And democracies have no lesson to give concerning mass murder: their deliberate (civilians targeted, not collateral damages as claimed by today’s court historians) aerial Germanocide of WW2 deprived them of that right forever, at least it should have deprived of that right.

          Comment by hermie — July 3, 2015 @ 9:27 am

  2. Refering to the last comment of Herr Hermie:The Zyklon B gas is letal so for lice as for any other being, human or animal.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 1, 2015 @ 10:15 am

    • i didn’t say that Zyklon B wasn’t lethal. I said that the moronic design of the alleged Holocaust gas chambers was totally nonsensical technically speaking. Clear?

      Comment by hermie — July 1, 2015 @ 11:57 pm

  3. The plan was for the Queen s visit to Bergen Belsen to have the complete attention of the media so the meme was planted even deeper into the western Psyche. Unfortunately three Islamic atrocities happened on the same day taking the big news off the front page. Of course if it wasn’t for Israel and the post war Jewish support for mass third world immigration the impetus for such terrorism would not be there in 2015.

    Comment by peter — June 29, 2015 @ 2:43 pm

  4. It is important to consider that in those days of April 1945 Himmler believed to have a possibil8ity to reach an agreement with Western Alliied State in order to fight the URSS. So he ordered the hando over of Bergen Belsen and Bichemwald Concentration Camps to Allied forces. Indeed he had been aproached – already in September 1944 – by Swiss Past President Jean Marie Musy and later by the Swedisch Count Folke Bernadotte. Clearly so an SS Officier as an SS Maide were alway ready to act according the Nazi docrrine of hatred and carry out without anu doubt or discussion every – even the most cruel – orders of the Fuehrer. Clearly at the question of Capt Brown the answer could be only YES. Furhtermore, at Auschwitz there had been about 24 SS officiers to carry out the selection – forced labour or Gas Chambers – of prisoniers. As explained by the daughter of Auschwitz Commander Hoess: When in the SS an officier could not help to carry out the cruel orders.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 28, 2015 @ 3:26 am

    • Himmler did not order the handover of Buchenwald. I wrote about the liberation of Buchenwald on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation0.html

      This quote is from my website:

      “The Buchenwald concentration camp was liberated on April 11, 1945 by four soldiers in the Sixth Armored Division of the US Third Army, commanded by General George S. Patton. Just before the Americans arrived, the camp had already been taken over by the Communist prisoners who had killed some of the guards and forced the rest to flee into the nearby woods.

      Pfc. James Hoyt was driving the M8 armoured vehicle which brought Capt. Frederic Keffer, Tech. Sgt. Herbert Gottschalk and Sgt. Harry Ward to the Buchenwald camp that day.”

      Comment by furtherglory — June 28, 2015 @ 7:27 am

    • So he ordered the hando over of Bergen Belsen and Bichemwald Concentration Camps to Allied forces.

      Quick question Wolf: Given the horrible conditions extant at Bergen-Belsen at the time, why do you think that Himmler believed handing over the camp was somehow going to help his standing with the Allies? Was Himmler really so stupid? Also, considering the military situation at the time, such an order would have been a laughable, cynical empty gesture, and it would have been seen that way — the Allies were going to overrun B-B in any case.

      Holocaust, Hate Speech, & Were the Germans so Stupid?.

      Comment by eah — June 28, 2015 @ 9:58 am

      • BTW, Anthony Lawson, maker of the excellent video linked above, died earlier this year, on Jan 8.

        Comment by eah — June 28, 2015 @ 11:07 am

      • Yes, Himmler was really so stupid to believe it possible to be accepted with his SS as combat unit by the Allied Powers. Furthermore there had been the action of Jean Marie Mussy – swiss past president – and Folke Bernadotte in order Mto save the life of Concentration Camp prisoniers. Many SS comanders however went on in killing prisoniers until the very last days of war.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 28, 2015 @ 12:33 pm

        • There had been similar rumors about an alleged imminent extermination of the Jewish inmates when the ‘Eastern camps’ were being evacuated (in late 1944 & early 1945). The Germans denied such an intent on their part through “press denial”. And the U.S. attempted to verify those mass-murder rumors in a number of ways, including communicating with the German government through the Irish Department of External Affairs, but they could not confirm any of the extermination rumors.

          http://codoh.com/library/document/898/

          So we have Jewish paranoid maniacs claiming some “Evil Blond Beasts” wanted to kill them all on one hand, and the Germans allegedly failing to kill them all on at least two occasions on the other hand. All this sounds like a conspiracy theory by and from a people know for the unequalled percentage of mental disorders within its ranks. More a case for psychiatry than for history…

          Comment by hermie — June 28, 2015 @ 7:53 pm

          • Herr Hermie! For my personal story. In Jannuary 1945 the SS Eichmann group started the building of a Gas Chamber at Theresienstadt. Works had been stopped on order of SS General Karl Hermann Frank Governor of Bohemia-Moravia Protectorate as he believed to use the Ghetto and its inmates in order to reach an agreement with Allied Comanders. The contacts You mention seem like asking Al Capone whether he wanted to murder his rivals or not. One ought to consider the Nazi fanatism: The end death of all the people. I feel that the deniers of the Shoah are the real paranoic who see in every historical essay an act of conspiracy. Auf widersehn.

            Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 29, 2015 @ 12:20 am

            • I wrote about the gas chamber at Theresienstadt in these two blog posts:

              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/gas-chamber-at-theresienstadt/

              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/theresienstadt-gas-chamber/

              You have to remember that there were two types of gas chambers in the camps. There were roms where the clothes were disinfected with Zyklon-B and there were crematoria where bodies were held until they could be burned. Holocaustians claim that both of these types of rooms were homicidal gas chambers.

              Comment by furtherglory — June 29, 2015 @ 8:04 am

              • The Nazi Gas Chambers using Zyclon B replaced the Gas Vans which used fuel exaust and did not seem fast enough to exterminate all of us. Having been considered as “Ungeziffer” the so called desinfection was only meant to our faster extermination. I feel that many persons regret our survival notwithstanding the faster gassing technich employing Zyklon B.

                Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 29, 2015 @ 8:14 am

                • Why were the Nazis trying to save lives by using Zyklon-B to kill the lice in the clothing of the prisoners, while at the same time, killing the prisoners with Zyklon-B? This was a big waste of time and money. If they had not disinfected the clothing, the prisoners might have died of typhus, thus saving them the time and trouble to gas the prisoners in rooms that normally would have been crematoria.

                  At Auschwitz-Birkenau, the Germans were disinfecting the clothing in a huge building known as the Sauna, while at the same time, Jews were being killed in the crematoria, only a few yards away, with Zyklon-B.

                  Comment by furtherglory — June 29, 2015 @ 8:31 am

                • The Nazis did in no way save lives. Using the German product Zyklon B – which was widely available – they could fasten the mass murder of the “Ungeziffer” so as persons – Jews, disabled, gypsies, etc, – as the desinfection of seized clothes meant to be distribuited to German population. Jews in working age were supposed to be murdered by forced labor, starvation or deseases. That had been the Nazi racial doctrine but You in USA have no idea about it and belive that that they belonged to the people of poets and thinkers; but the Nazis belonged to the people of “judges” and “executers” -“Wir sind nich in Zeiten der Dichter und der Denker sondern in der der Richter und der Henker”.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 29, 2015 @ 9:37 am

                • “The Nazi Gas Chambers using Zyclon B replaced the Gas Vans which used fuel exaust and did not seem fast enough to exterminate all of us.”

                  Had the Nazis thought about using wood gasifiers to exterminate all the Jews, they wouldn’t have needed to waste scarce fuel or Zyklon B for that task. But they didn’t use very lethal wood gasifiers for mass murder. Surprisingly. There were hundreds of thousands of vehicles running on wood gas everywhere in Europe at that time because of oil shortages. And there was a coal gasification plant (producing huge amounts of free carbon monoxide as a byproduct) at Auschwitz III. Moreover the Nazis knew that wood gasifiers produced a very dangerous exhaust (very high amounts of carbon monoxide). They even designed, printed and distributed posters in order to warn people about such a danger (you can see one here: http://www.nazigassings.com/images/poster.jpghttp://www.nazigassings.com/SafetyGuidelines.htm). But the Nazis, we are told, preferred to use inefficient diesel/gasoline exhaust and unpractical Zyklon B, instead of very lethal wood gasifiers, for their alleged Top Secret Judeocide by gas.

                  And nobody would use diesel/gasoline exhaust (0.2, 1, or 5% CO at best) for mass murder AFTER using pure bottles of carbon monoxide (100% CO) for mass murder as the Nazis had allegedly done in the Euthanasia gas chambers. Science doesn’t work that way. Science doesn’t go from the more efficient to the less efficient. Stupid technical nonsense.

                  Comment by hermie — June 30, 2015 @ 7:18 am

                • Whath cloths of prisoniers the Nazi were disinfecting in order to prevent tiphus desease? In the cattle cars which carried the Jews to Auschwitz there certainly does not be space for luggage which had not been even forwarded in the so called “luggage car”. Those selected for forced labor had to wear the well known “uniform”. The desinfection to fight “Ungeziefer” was a polite expression for “gassing the Jews”. Other polite expression was “special treatment”. The many negationist faultfinder should take note that the Nazi Gas Chambers were very efficient for mass killing and by no way comparable with those in the various USA prisons for “lawfull executions”.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 30, 2015 @ 10:01 am

                • As you’ve brought up the topic of disinfestation/delousing gassings yourself wolfie, I can add that the alleged homicidal gassings with Zyklon B were another technical nonsense within Israel’s founding holo-myth. A quick look at the sophisticated machinery used by the Germans to gas typhus-carrying louse (http://www.nazigassings.com/images/gaschmbr.gif) and at the moronic alleged Birkenau homicidal gas chambers (http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/intro-columns/schematic.gif) should be enough to make anybody with average cognitive abilities laugh to tears. Science doesn’t work that way. Sophisticated efficient technologies don’t give birth to moronic inefficient technologies. The laughable Birkenau homicidal gas chambers were not the progeny of German technologies but the degenerate children of the ‘science’ of illiterate Mujiks and/or backward Ostjuden.

                  http://www.nazigassings.com/zyklondelousing.html

                  And you can claim on and on that delousing gassings were not intended to save the camp inmates’ lives, but there exist documents with Himmler ordering German camp commandants to decrease the death rate among the inmates held in their camps (including Auschwitz). How do you explain that, woofie?

                  Comment by hermie — July 1, 2015 @ 8:44 am

            • I admit you are consistent, Wolf. 1945 was rather late in the war to start building a(nother) gas chamber, don’t you think? Do you have any info about cremation capacity at Theresienstadt? Was that being upgraded? What were they going to do with the corpses?

              BTW, the Wikipedia article on Theresienstadt is a fine example of ‘Holocaust’ “scholarship”, not to mention Wikipedia bias — eg completely unsubstantiated claims just left there.

              Comment by eah — June 29, 2015 @ 9:16 pm

              • The Nazis did in no way save lives.

                Elie Wiesel was treated in a German hospital.

                Comment by eah — June 29, 2015 @ 9:33 pm

              • You should consider that I am the son of the last Elder of Theresienstadt and so better informed. 1. The Gas Chamber had to be set up in an existing cellar in the walls surounding the Ghetto but, it seems, this “facility” had been supposed to be used for the mass execution of the political prisioniersto be u of the nearby Little Fortress. 3. For ourselves – Jews – a place for max shootings had been in way of arrangement. 4. In Theresienstadt the deads since 1942 had been burnt in the Crematorium where also the victims of other bearby camps had been brought. Any other question?

                Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 30, 2015 @ 12:50 am

                • You should consider that I am the son of the last Elder of Theresienstadt and so better informed.

                  Wolf, honestly, I try to be gentle with you — because you were horribly mistreated by the Nazis, along with so many others. But at times you try my patience. I have seen too many “eyewitnesses” relate the most ludicrous, impossible, unbelievable nonsense to be much swayed by such a statement as this.

                  Any other question?

                  Yes. How many ovens did the crematoria have? How long would it have taken cremate a corpse? What was going to be done with the bones?

                  The reason I ask is this: even using figures very generous to ‘Holocaustians’ like yourself, and given the facilities on hand, it’s been calculated that it would have taken more than a week to cremate the corpses from just one gassing at Auschwitz-Birkenau. And yet we are told, and are expected to believe, that the gas chambers operated day and night, night and day, gassing, cremating, gassing, cremating, etc etc — especially during the time the Hungarian Jews were alleged to have been done away with (ie trainload after trainload). And I’m sorry, but it just isn’t believable. Not to mention the fact that every time someone has looked for it, no cyanide residue has been found in this supposed gas chambers.

                  Also, you did not address the point of why the Germans would build a gas chamber so late in the war — 1945. When in other locales they were evacuating prisoners. It makes little sense.

                  Comment by eah — June 30, 2015 @ 2:35 am

                • And what you said about the Nazis not saving lives is demonstrably false.

                  Comment by eah — June 30, 2015 @ 2:50 am

                • Dear Eah! As to “eyewitnesses”: I have still to rebuke many absurd accusations against my late Father. So it occured to have to rebuke a heavy accusations risen by a lady who pretended to have been my Father’s secretary. I asked for information BEITH TEREZIN and learnt that 1. The lady had been never in Theresienstadt. 2. The actual secretary – who I remember – stated to have been the sole typist of my Father and that she did not know the lady who had risen those accusations, quoted in a Dissertation for a Master of Arts at a UK University.
                  As to the question about technical details – how many ovens and time of cremating – of Theresienstadt crematoria. located outside the Ghetto limits, so I only cann tell You that my Father never went to see that “facility”. Fortunately (!) he knew only the number of deads of Theresienstadt and not those of other nearby Camps and prisons. At the TIME OF THAT DARKNESS it was wise for a Jewish Leader to avoid to look or to hear certain things not of interest of his comunity.
                  As to the question about the sense of setting on new Gas Chambers after those of Auschwitz stopped operating so I can only recall the fanastism of many SS Comanders – like Eichmann etc.- who wanted to avoid the survival of prisoniers.
                  As to the question about Gassing technique I have not the skill to debate about it. Certainly in the trasports from Hungary only few persons could be selected for forced labor while the most had been sent to Gas Chambers. For today I say good bye.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 30, 2015 @ 3:55 am

            • “For my personal story. In Jannuary 1945 the SS Eichmann group started the building of a Gas Chamber at Theresienstadt. Works had been stopped on order of SS General Karl Hermann Frank Governor of Bohemia-Moravia Protectorate as he believed to use the Ghetto and its inmates in order to reach an agreement with Allied Comanders. ”

              Works stopped? Bwa-ha-ha-haaaa. How long was the drilling of 1, 2, 3 or 4 holes in a ceiling or a wall supposed to last, wolfie? One hour? Two maybe? Your baseless horror story about the “almost gas chamber” of Theresienstadt is one of the most ridiculous tales ever invented and told by a Jew or anybody else. But don’t stop telling it in spite of that. Chutzpah often pays…

              “The contacts You mention seem like asking Al Capone whether he wanted to murder his rivals or not. ”

              Except the fact that the rivals of Al Capone were indeed murdered. They were not walking around by the millions after the war telling everybody that their race urgently needed a state of its own and loads of money, as well as absolute immunity in Western countries, because Haman Al Capone had tried but miraculously failed to kill them all. See the difference, woofie? Clear?😉

              “I feel that the deniers of the Shoah are the real paranoic who see in every historical essay an act of conspiracy.”

              A “conspiracy to murder all the Jews in Europe”, “the Nazi conspirators”, etc…that was the Zio-Soviet-Allied terminology used by the victors’ accusers at Nuremberg. It’s not my fault that the very designers and propagators of the Holo-myth came out with a laughable narrative such as that one. But they had no other choice: when accusers have no concrete proof at their disposal, they must try to prove their case with secret conspiracies (with all the main high-ranking perpetrators conveniently dead at that time) and nonexistent evidence (supposedly because destroyed by alleged Nazi obliteration squads). Any conspiracy could be ‘proved’ to be true with the farcical evidential standards of Holocaustians.

              Comment by hermie — June 30, 2015 @ 6:39 am

              • I see that You do not know that Theresienstadt was surrounded by very thick walls – about 30/40 meters – where there had been several cellars one of which could be adapted as a Gas Chamber by performing certain works to have it air tight. Those works allarmed the Chief Engineer ho advised the Elder about the danger. The Elder found the right way to inform the Commander about those allarmed rumors. The Commander after having answered that works were to adapt that cellar to a bonb shelter safe warehouse but hurried to Prague and returned after three days with the order to stop works. The only one having the authority to give that order was, obviously, Karl Hermann Frank High SS Chief and Governor of Bohemia Moravia. That is all. Your further offensive remarks do not deserve anuu answer.

                Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 30, 2015 @ 8:34 am

                • You wrote: “Theresienstadt was surrounded by very thick walls – about 30/40 meters – where there had been several cellars one of which could be adapted as a Gas Chamber by performing certain works to have it air tight”

                  I wrote about these walls on my website at
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/SmallFortress/smallfortress06.html

                  I walked through these walls, which formed a tunnel. There were several places where you could say that there was a little room. I thought that the tunnel was underground and I didn’t want to go into it. The tour guide offered to have me taken to see the Small Fortress without going through the tunnel, but I decided to risk it. There are little windows in the tunnel, so that you can see that you are not really underground.

                  Comment by furtherglory — June 30, 2015 @ 9:48 am

              • Herr Hermie! You simply ignore that Theresienstadt is surrounded by thik walls – about 40 meters – which obviously have cellars. On of those seemed suitable to be made air thight performing certain works which seemed suspect: no written drawing plan only oral instructions. As the Elder face the Commader about the allarmed rumours the SS officier spoke about a bomb safe warehouse but .. hurried to Prague and returned three days later with the order – which only SS High Commander and Governor of Bohemia-Moravia could give – to stop works. Those are facts. Your further offensive remarks do not deserve any answer.

                Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 30, 2015 @ 8:45 am

                • You can see photos of the walls around Theresienstadt on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/TheresienstadtGhetto/GhettoTour/Tour01.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — June 30, 2015 @ 9:17 am

                • “I see that You do not know that Theresienstadt was surrounded by very thick walls – about 30/40 meters – where there had been several cellars one of which could be adapted as a Gas Chamber by performing certain works to have it air tight. Those works allarmed the Chief Engineer ho advised the Elder about the danger. ”

                  Let me guess. ‘Fact’ proved by testimonial ‘evidence’ only, as always? Hearsay babblings again? Holohoax propaganda looks more and more like Ufology or Bigfootology.

                  I prefer the nonexistent Breendonk gas chamber (https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9638) to the alleged unfinished Theresienstadt gas chamber. Seemed more impressive and entertaining.😉

                  It’s true that I lack [dis]information about the alleged Theresienstadt gas chamber. That’s perhaps because the Zionist Holo-lobby almost completely dropped that war lie during around 7 decades now…

                  Comment by hermie — July 1, 2015 @ 8:17 am

    • Dr. Murmelstein
      I am certain you are fully aware that Count Folke Bernadotte has saved hundreds of Jews from eventual death at the very end of the war, yet it were LEHI leaders, Zionists, under the leadership of Yitzhak Shamir, Dr. Israel Scheib and Nathan Friedman-Yellin, decided to assassinate Bernadotte while he was on his way to a meeting with Dov Joseph, military governor of Jerusalem’s New City, which was scheduled for either 4:30 p.m. on September 17 or sometime on September 18 (the exact date is disputed). His murderer was Yehoshua Cohen. Yitzhak Shamir reputedly played a role in planning the assassination; however, he was never tried and years later was elected as Israel’s eighth Prime Minister.

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — June 28, 2015 @ 10:03 pm

      • For history: Folke Bernadotte worked mainly to obtain the liberation of Norwegian and Danish inmates. It happened that this resulted helpfull for Jews too. Events in Near East in 1948 were very troublefull and Israel Government made every effort to fight the mentally insane LEHI group. As to Yitzhak Shamir he was a good Foreign Minister and then Prime Minister being a realist. I do not know details of the Bernadotte assassination while it is well known that the USA diplomat Ralfh Bunch resulted to have succeeded in obtaining an arrangement.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 29, 2015 @ 12:07 am

        • Funny how suddenly your memory gets foggy when Jews do the killing. I’d ask you to tell me about Katyn, the Holodomor, the King David Hotel, Deir Yassin, and the USS Liberty but I’m sure you might not remember those events with any clarity…so long ago they were…

          Comment by Schlageter — June 29, 2015 @ 8:34 pm

          • Katy and the Holodomor had been ordered by Soviet regime which in the same time started discrimination against Jews. Refering to King David Hotel and Deir Yassin i can only recall on the efforts of Ben Gurion to stop the insane Lehi. I frankly do not understand Your reference to USS Liberty. Certainly past and present Arab terrorism provoced and is provocing the set up of similar Jewish terror groups. At any rate the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt had been signed by the former IRGUN Comander Begin and the former Nazi spy Sadat.

            Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — June 30, 2015 @ 12:26 am

  5. Here’s where I take. This knucklehead was the only person that could speak kraut? Okay. Put that to the side. They asked if he could “spare one day”. He was still in uniform,right. I guess the person that wrote this article,goofed. I think he meant to write,” his CO told him to report to the camp,because they needed a translator”. There again maybe they did. If that’s the case,then I’m gonna be a bit pissed off at all the times my Lt “told me” to walk point instead of “asking me” to walk point. There is something else. Where’s MI ? You’re gonna tell me they let this guy roll on up and start questioning the Krauts. I don’t think so. Military intelligence is gonna want first crack. They would show up with their own translator. We’d get a few dink POWs every now and then that amounted to something. MI or someone from the agency would show up. They’d have some south Vietnamese dink in tow to play translator. We had a guy with us that spoke Vietnamese. He went to the DLI in Monterey,Ca. He was just basically there to talk with the locals though. Anything above that was left to MI.

    Comment by tim — June 27, 2015 @ 4:48 pm


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