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July 18, 2015

Oskar Groening didn’t “pour gas into the gas chamber,” but he is nevertheless a war criminal

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:49 am

My blog post today is an answer to the information in this news article.

This quote is from the news article, cited above:

During his time at Auschwitz, Groening’s job was to collect the belongings of the deportees after they arrived at the camp by train and had been put through a selection process that resulted in many being sent directly to the gas chambers.

“The conviction of Oskar Groening for his actions sends an unequivocal message that, although he may not have led or directly participated in the atrocities at Auschwitz, he was clearly an accessory to the crimes perpetrated by the Nazis,” the UK’s Holocaust Educational Trust said in a statement Wednesday, asserting that his actions directly facilitated the murder of 300,000 Jews. […]

“The world has to understand that it is not an excuse to have worked on the economic system” of the camps, Holocaust educator Rabbi Avraham Krieger told The Jerusalem Post. “He knew that he was part of a whole machinery of killing. Just because didn’t hold a gun or pour gas into the gas chamber it doesn’t change the picture.”

He didn’t POUR GAS into the gas chamber? Was this liquid gas, like the gas that you might pour into the gas tank of a car?

My photo of Zyklon-B pellets, taken at Mauthausen camp

My photo of Zyklon-B pellets, taken at Mauthausen memorial site

Hole in the ceiling of the Auschwitz 1 gas chamber, through which the gas pellets were thrown

Hole in the ceiling of the Auschwitz 1 gas chamber, through which the gas pellets were thrown

The gas that was allegedly used to kill the Jews was in the form of pellets that were thrown into the alleged gas chambers through holes in the roof. IMHO, the gas was thrown into the gas chambers, not poured.

Degesch machine was used in disinfection gas chambers

Degesch machine was used in disinfection gas chambers

The Nazis used Zyklon-B for disinfecting the clothing of the prisoners, and allegedly for the gassing of the Jews.  The machine in the photo above was used for disinfecting the clothing of the prisoners in order to save lives.  By using this machine, the pellets could be automatically put into a basket where they could be recovered and reused.  In the homicidal gas chambers, the Zyklon-B pellets were allegedly dropped on the heads of the prisoners, and the pellets could not be recovered.

I don’t believe that Oskar Groening knew anything whatsoever about the gassing of the Jews at Auschwitz, or he might have explained all this.

69 Comments »

  1. The theory of the German master nation called to rule over Europe enslaving the other european nations and destructing the jewish people had been developed already in the Middle Age toghether with the idea of a Gernan Church whose High Priest should be under the comand of the Emperor. These ideas circulated again the Prussian French war in the united German Empire until the Nazi Rule when they had been the official policy. See the writings of Houston Chamberline, Alfred Rosenberg and the MEIN KAMPF of Hitler.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 21, 2015 @ 10:44 am

  2. German Jewish politician celebrates the extermination of the German people:

    Comment by fnn — July 19, 2015 @ 4:24 am

    • “the Nazis are not very good at having offspring.”

      Another Jewish lie. The birth rate in the Greater Reich was higher than what it was in the rest of Europe at that time. The Third Reich was the only country in Europe with a bright future demographically speaking. The curve of population decline inherited from WW1 had been successfully inverted by Hitler’s policies and it had remained so until as late as the year 1942. That until the bombs of the Zionist WW2 broke once and for all that nice surge for a survival in the long run.

      Whites, not only Germans, are doomed as race. That’s a fair retribution for siding with Jewry. Time to pay the bill, White people.😉

      Comment by hermie — July 19, 2015 @ 8:49 am

      • It always been my assertion that there is life elsewhere in the universe. They’ve probably visited us before. They took one look around and said,”no intelligence here.Let’s move on”. I don’t think any of the shit dealing with the holocsust,had anything to do with people wanting to see Germany fail. They pulled themselves out of the depression when every one else were still in line at the soup kitchens. After the war we find out how technologically advanced they were. Of course birth rates were up. They actually worried about the health of their citizens. I don’t really buy into the master race shit,but it seems to me,they had a good idea with Lebensborn. I’ve nothing against people being born with physical or mental impairments. Hell they didn’t ask to be born that way. The Krauts had a good idea. Control the genetics and you can look forward to the propagation of the human race. If Lebensborn was allowed to go forward,we might’ve had people that were able to save the human race. I feel bad for the Lebensborn children. If they were given an environment that allowed them to realize their full potential,the world may not be as f**ked as it is today.

        Comment by Tim — July 19, 2015 @ 11:48 am

        • Tim wrote: “I don’t really buy into the master race shit”

          The master race stuff was mainly a reverse accusation and a distortion spread by Zionist Supremacist Jews, a projection of their own standards on their cartoonish fictional media ‘Nazis’. They used to (and they still do) regard themselves as the Master Race of humankind (or “the aristocrats of the world” as the Zionist Supremacist Boycott leader Samuel Untermyer put it in his anit-nazi speech of August 1933), G-d’s Chosen Wonders. The so-called “Holocaust survivors” always repeat that the ‘Evil Nazi Murderers’ wanted to kill them all only for being born Jews because that’s the only way their psychopathic supremacistic brains can ‘understand’ the behavior of non-Chosen inferior beasts.

          http://www.cwporter.com/mran.htm

          http://www.cwporter.com/rauschningnote.htm

          http://www.cwporter.com/docmyth.htm

          http://www.cwporter.com/use1.htm

          http://www.cwporter.com/machado.htm

          And the concept of a Master Race probably made much sense to the Americans of that time: the US negroes of that time could feel the effects of that concept in their daily life, in their relationships with the White Master Race of America.

          Tim wrote: ” it seems to me,they had a good idea with Lebensborn. I’ve nothing against people being born with physical or mental impairments. Hell they didn’t ask to be born that way. The Krauts had a good idea. Control the genetics and you can look forward to the propagation of the human race. If Lebensborn was allowed to go forward,we might’ve had people that were able to save the human race. I feel bad for the Lebensborn children. If they were given an environment that allowed them to realize their full potential,the world may not be as f**ked as it is today.”

          The Lebenborn institutes had no connection with eugenics. Another Hollywood kosher distortion. The Lebensborn institutes were just anti-abortion centers for babies born out of wedlock. At that time, the pregnant girls who were not married used to abort their babies because of social pressure. The Lebensborn institutes were established to prevent that from happening as often as possible. Of course, both parents had to be Aryans. No jewish, gypsy, negro and mixed-race babies in the Third Reich’s orphanages of the Lebensborn program. But that doesn’t mean that the Nazis were making a race of supermen in those places. That’s just another Jewish lie. WW1 had dug a demographic gap in Europe and the Lebensborn program only intended to deal with that issue in Germany.

          The Third Reich implemented its eugenicist doctrine with compulsory sterilizations of people born with physical or mental impairments, not with oriented breedings (distorted Lebensborn) and euthanasia (Aktion T4) as claimed by Jewish academia and mass media.

          http://www.cwporter.com/lebyoutube.htm

          http://www.cwporter.com/lebpics.htm

          http://www.cwporter.com/lebpics2.htm

          Comment by hermie — July 20, 2015 @ 7:24 am

          • Okay I’ve read the first article on the first link . I don’t care for the nazis. They’re the reason I never got to meet my uncle Ralph . However like em or not,it seems like these trials were settin them to fail . Who are these two hammerheads Rudenko and stahmer? I’m asking because it seems they werent expecting the answers that goring gave them. This stahmer idiot is asking him to reply directly to questions. I’m pretty sure he wanted him to reply directly,because that way stahmer could mislead the people that were deciding gorings fate. It looked like they were trying trip him up. The stahmer idiot asked him what master race meant to him . In so many words,he answered,”not a damn thing”. Okay,here comes stahmers girlfriend, Rudenko . He asks damn near the same question his boyfriend stahmers asked. He asked goring if he’s in line with the white supremacy theory . Seems to me he answered,”what the f**k did I just tell your boyfriend. I don’t think about it”.like I said,i don’t care for the nazis, but your putting s man on trial for his life,you can afford to let him answer his question with an explination. Hell the more I find out about these trials,the more I think both sides knew the outcome before it even hit the courts

            Comment by Tim — July 20, 2015 @ 9:35 pm

            • “I don’t care for the nazis. They’re the reason I never got to meet my uncle Ralph . ”

              I’m afraid you’d better turn to Frank Roosevelt and his warmongering clique if you want to understand the absence of your uncle Ralph.😉

              “Who are these two hammerheads Rudenko and stahmer?”

              Rudenko was the Soviet Chief prosecutor at Nuremberg and Defense attorney Otto Stahmer was the counsel for Göring at Nuremberg.

              It seems that Rudenko was trying to prevent Göring from saying why Operation Barbarossa had been launched in mid-1941. I think Rudie didn’t want to see Göring expose any imminent Soviet invasion planned for summer 41 at Nuremberg.

              “it seems they werent expecting the answers that goring gave them. ”

              One of my favorite moments at the Nuremberg judicial farce was when Goering denied any knowledge of the “Holocaust” prior to the Nuremberg ‘trials’ and British prosecutor David Maxell-Fyfe ingenuously asked him “Do you say that you never saw or heard from the foreign press, in broadcasts, that this was going on?” as if wartime enemy propaganda had already proved anything. Of course Goering answered: “throughout the war I did not read the foreign press, because I considered it nothing but propaganda.”

              ” Hell the more I find out about these trials,the more I think both sides knew the outcome before it even hit the courts”

              Nuremberg was never supposed to be a fair trial. Before the ‘Tribunal’ had even convened, Iona Nikitchenko, the Soviet Union’s judge at the Nuremberg ‘trials’, said:

              “We are dealing here with the chief war criminals who have already been convicted and whose conviction has been already announced by both the Moscow and Crimea [Yalta] declarations by the heads of the [Allied] governments…. The whole idea is to secure quick and just punishment for the crime.”

              About the Nuremberg ‘trials’, Nikitchenko also said: “If… the judge is supposed to be impartial, it would only lead to unnecessary delays.”

              Comment by hermie — July 21, 2015 @ 8:20 pm

              • At July 31 1941 Goering entrusted SS General and Police Chief Heydrich to set up the steps necessary for the solution of the jewish question in the entire German ruled area. The details had been discussed and decided at the Wannsee Conference at January 20 1942.

                Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 21, 2015 @ 11:27 pm

                • Wolfie wrote: “At July 31 1941 Goering entrusted SS General and Police Chief Heydrich to set up the steps necessary for the solution of the jewish question in the entire German ruled area.”

                  The “final/definitive/complete/permanent/only solution of the Jewish question/problem”, that’s Zionist vocabulary. But I guess that the Nazis used a Zionist wording for a similar settlement of that issue, a territorial liquidation of Ostjudentum through mass transfer and resettlement in Palestine (Zionists), Madagascar (Nazis, Poles), the Soviet Union (Nazis) or anywhere else.

                  « Meanwhile, the war against the Soviet Union has allowed us to dispose of new territories for the final solution. Consequently, the Führer has decided to displace the Jews not towards Madagascar but towards the East. Thus, there is no longer any need to consider Madagascar for the final solution. » – Franz Rademacher, Referat D III (“Jew Unit”) of Ribbentrop’s Foreign Affairs Ministry, Feb. 10th 1942, Nuremberg Document NG-3933.

                  Wolfie wrote: “The details had been discussed and decided at the Wannsee Conference at January 20 1942.”

                  The Jewish historian Yehuda Bauer has just phoned and asked that you stop embarrassing entire Jewry with your “silly stories”, wolfie.😉

                  “The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at.” – Yehuda Bauer, January 1992, 50th anniversary of the Wannsee Conference.

                  Comment by hermie — July 22, 2015 @ 7:08 am

                • Herr/Mr Hermie! What do you mean with the – fake – quotations of Jehuda Bauer (I cannot stand him!)? Goering was the Commissar for War Economy – Beauftragter fuer den Vier Jahers Plan – and so had to entrust Heydrich – Chief of German Police and Security Service – RSHA – to set up all the necessary steps … . Rademacher not even attended the Wannsee Conference; there had been Under State Secratery Luther for the Foreign Ministry.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 22, 2015 @ 7:50 am

                • I think the Wannsee Conference was more about coordination. The Nazis were already killing Jews in large numbers in the East by shooting. Belzec was in the process of construction but the Nazis were already gassing Jews at Chelmno using gas vans.

                  Comment by P. O. Truth — July 22, 2015 @ 2:39 pm

                • Wolfie wrote: “What do you mean with the – fake – quotations of Jehuda Bauer”

                  Here is a link to the full article with Bauer’s quote: http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y466/kaz89/Holocaust-TheCanadianJewishNews-1992-YehudaBauerdebunkingWannsee_zps1e38c4ab.jpg

                  It seems that you’ll have to find something else than claiming Bauer didn’t say that. Chutzpah often works, but it is not always enough.😉

                  And what Bauer meant when he stated that is crystal clear: the Wannsee Conference didn’t deal with mass murder as repeated on and on by liars like yourself.

                  Wolfie wrote: “Rademacher not even attended the Wannsee Conference, there had been Under State Secratery Luther for the Foreign Ministry.”

                  And that same Martin Franz Julius Luther, at the Wannsee Conference, voiced concern about the large-scale resettlement required throughout occupied Europe – what the Zionist lobby and wikipedia explain as follows – [quote] which seemed to indicate that he did not fully understand what was being planned [unquote]. Hilarious.

                  And 7 months after the Wannsee Conference (August 21, 1942), Luther wrote a detailed memorandum on the Nazi’s policy for the Jews in which he stated, among other things, “… at the end of this war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was an unalterable decision of the Fuehrer …” (Nuremberg Military Tribunal, Green series, Volume 13, Pages 243-249). Luther was depicted as “a master schemer and plotter”, but we are supposed to believe that he was too stupid to understand what the Wannsee conference was about and was allegedly (according to Zio-academia and Israel’s founding myth) happening to the Jews of Europe. Amazing…ly nonsensical !!

                  Comment by hermie — July 23, 2015 @ 9:08 am

                • Edit: “and what was allegedly” insteda of “and was allegedly”

                  Comment by hermie — July 23, 2015 @ 9:10 am

                • Caesars Palace. December 7th. That date work for yall for the match?

                  Comment by Tim — July 23, 2015 @ 11:04 am

                • Mr/Herr Hermie (Goebbels jr) Thanks for the link; another reason I cannot stand Prof. Bauer. He stood safe while we stood in the hell and then …. At Wannsee they discussed – Heydrich in chair and Eichmann writing the minutes – among other questions, who is a Jew. Furthermore, they discussed who should have authority where; Eichmann had authority for the deportations in Central-South-West Europe.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 23, 2015 @ 9:53 am

                • “Caesars Palace. December 7th. That date work for yall for the match?”

                  Good for me. But I’d prefer Yad Vashem.

                  “At Wannsee they discussed among other questions, who is a Jew.”

                  Did they? (I haven’t read the Wannsee protocol for ages now.) I thought that the topic of Jewishness had been settled once and for all in 1935, when the Nuremberg Race Laws had been designed and promulgated.

                  Comment by hermie — July 23, 2015 @ 7:15 pm

                • What is Wannsee everyone speaks of? I told yall back in school they hit on the holocaust,but it didn’t get much airtime. I was tossed in with the WW 2 mix. I’ve never seen anything on the history Chanel about it. Now you see Why I depend on the site FG has here. Everybody brings something to the table. I don’t have a whole helluva a lot of anything to contribute here,but I’m thankful to the folks (from both sides) that give me answers.

                  Comment by Tim — July 24, 2015 @ 8:27 am

                • Herr Hermie! One of the subjects discussed at Wannsee had been exacty the treatment of “halfjews” – mischling ersten grades – and of “quarterjews” – mischling zweiten grades – in the final solution of the jewish question.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 23, 2015 @ 11:07 pm

                • I thought everyone was good to go with 1/2 and 1/4 jews. I saw something one time if a person was 1/2 or 1/4 hitler could sign a peice of paper and “shazam!”, you were an instant aryan. In all honesty,I’ll admit that sounded stupid. Would’ve been interesting if hitler had to do that for a Hispanc or Black.

                  Comment by Tim — July 24, 2015 @ 8:35 am

                • I think that you are referring to the “Nuremberg Laws” which defined who was a Jew.

                  Nürnberg is famous for the 1935 Nuremberg Laws, which defined who was a Jew, based on heredity, and allowed German citizenship only to ethnic Germans. The Nuremberg Laws denied the Jews the right to fly the Nazi flag, but at the same time, protected the right of the Zionists to fly their own flag, which is now the flag of Israel. The Nuremberg Laws formed the basis for the plans that were made on January 20, 1942 for the “Final Solution of the Jewish Question,” since this law was used to determine who would be transported, from Germany and the Nazi occupied countries, to the concentration camps in the East.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 24, 2015 @ 10:04 am

                • Tim wrote: “What is Wannsee everyone speaks of?”

                  The Wannsee Conference was a Nazi meeting that took place in a villa near Berlin in January 1942 and that dealt with a new Jewish policy. The German victories of “Operation Barbarossa” (i.e. the German invasion of the Soviet Union) during the second half of 1941 had just brought the large territories of Eastern Europe in German hands, and some Nazi leaders decided to use those new areas for the settlement of the Jewish question in their zone of influence and the surrounding countries by deporting all the Jews who were not needed for their war industries there. Holocaust believers say that the Nazis had in fact decided to murder all the Jews of Europe and that they planned the implementation of that alleged secret operation at the Wannsee Conference. They claim that “resettlement in the east” was a Nazi code word for “murder”. As the minutes of the Wannsee Conference don’t state that the Nazis intended to murder all the Jews they could catch, some Israeli Jews made Eichmann say in 1961 that those minutes were in fact a soft, almost coded, version of what was really said there. How convenient !! And easy too…

                  Comment by hermie — July 24, 2015 @ 5:12 pm

          • Herminator, how does Nietzsche figure into all this? I’ve pulled up so many pages,I lost track of everything. I know I started looking for material where,hitler mentioned with his own words,”master race”. I found a lot of stuff to where the author of a peice about hitler said,” hitlers master race”,but I didn’t find anything that said uncle Adolph directly used ,”master race”. Kinda like those 2 idiots that tried to corner Goring and get him to say he used master race. At any rate I ran across something that said “Neitzsches influence on hitlers Mein kampf”. Everything the historians wrote about hitlers ideology and thoughts,made it sound like they were exclusive to him. The historians are trying to make people believe,hitler was the trail blazer with all of his thoughts. I see Nietzsche wrote a book called,”Genealogy of Morals”. Now the author of this peice said,”Nietzsche idea of the master race”. Something like that. Clearly someone was thinking along the lines of master race,long before hitler was born. Yet they always try to lay it at his doorstep. This book Neitzsche wrote,was written before hitler was even born. So just how much influence did Nietzsche have on hitler. I’m asking because if Nietzsche had a big influence on hitler,then the historians are gonna have to reevaluate hitlers thoughts . I mean if he was a hardcore Nietzsche follower,then they’re gonna have to admit ( not that they ever would),hitler picked his shit up elsewhere. Which from where I sit means, they’re trying to tag him with something that was not his to begin with. They’re also gonna find out,there’s people long before hitler,that couldn’t stand jews

            Comment by Tim — July 21, 2015 @ 10:41 am

            • Tim! There are people who cannot stand negroes but … needs their work. S there had been antisemites, even Nazis, who … prefered the cares of jewish doctors.

              Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 21, 2015 @ 11:26 am

              • I don’t think that the Nazis preferred to have the services of a Jewish doctor. I think that the Nazis did not use the services of a Jewish doctor because they were afraid of being poisoned.

                Comment by furtherglory — July 21, 2015 @ 12:33 pm

                • At Theresienstadt even the SS Comander relied on the Jewish doctors. The family of Hitler – mainly his mother – relied on the Jewish doctor Bloch whose emigration in 1940 had to be handled with greatest preference.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 21, 2015 @ 12:45 pm

                • Okay,but where does Nietzsche fit into all this. Like I said,I saw something that said he carried some weight with hitler,when hitler wrote mein kampf. Nietzsche was talking about races long before the nazis or third reich came along. All this time I was under the assumption that Neitzsche was only interested in his sister and nothing else.

                  Comment by Tim — July 21, 2015 @ 12:54 pm

                • Neitzsche did not have sex with his sister. If he had, she would have contracted syphilis. His sister took care of him in his later years, as he was dying from syphilis. All of his friends had abandoned him.

                  Neitzsche had contracted syphilis from a prostitute. He had to go to prostitutes; no decent woman would have sex with him because he rattled on at great length about women being inferior.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 21, 2015 @ 1:23 pm

                • That was the only thing I ever heard about him. Historians obviously give their version of history like they give their version of the holocaust. My mistake . After finding out how bad they butcher the facts with the holocaust,I should know to dig deeper,with anything they say. I was just kinda caught off guard when that article said Nietzsche had influenced hitlers mein kampf. I also noticed that the ideology hitler may or may not have had ( once again I’ll take that with a grain of salt) was nothing new. The 2 clowns that were trying to get goring to admit he used the term master race ,would’ve been better off asking Nietzsche that question (if he were alive). Like I said,I don’t think the prosecutors tried any of the cases with any factual evidence. I love my country and I’m not a fan of the nazis,but none of the people charged didn’t got fair trials. I heard Germany wasn’t totally rebuilt till the mid 80’s. Im not sure what that all meant,but it don’t surprise me. From everything I’m learning here,seems to me like the jews were running that. They were full of so much hate,that the Krauts were nothing more than someone to tie to the whipping post. I still laugh when I hear they’re Gods chosen. I don’t know what God they have,but it ain’t mine. I know you’re not a believer,but I made that point,because they’re more like Satans whores than anything else. From some of what I’ve read on here ,they have a ton of lapdog Christians,that they’re gonna drag right through the mire.

                  Comment by Tim — July 21, 2015 @ 1:51 pm

              • After reading the links you sent me,I’m kinda thinking that “master race ” was thought up by a bunch of prosecutors that were running goring through. Phony ass,non existant evidence. That right there I’m on board with. I mean those 2 jug heads were trying to get goring to admit to something he never said. Like I said,I think both sides knew how the trial would come out. The prosecutors just wanted to put on their dog and pony show,while a man is trying to fight for his life.

                Comment by Tim — July 21, 2015 @ 1:00 pm

            • “Herminator, how does Nietzsche figure into all this? I’ve pulled up so many pages,I lost track of everything. ”

              They were referring to Nietzsche’s concept of Übermensch (Superman, Over-Human). Of course, Nietzsche wasn’ dealing with races when he talked about a Übermensch. But as some Nazis sometimes talked about “Untermenschen” (subhumans) in their speeches, some of the Nuremberg geniuses deduced that Nietzsche was in fact of the main inspirers of Nazism with his Übermensch .

              Comment by hermie — July 21, 2015 @ 8:35 pm

            • As far as Wannsee Conference goes, Eichman stated at his trial in Isreal that the discussion was far more open about the killings of Jews but but Heydrich edited out or changed words to make the document more innocent sounding. Basically, everyone at the table new what was going on. This makes sense as the Nazis began the mass killings of Jewish men at the outset of Operation Barbarossa.

              Comment by P. O. Truth — July 23, 2015 @ 12:41 pm

              • Operation Barbarossa . I can’t hear that without thinking of the Willie Nelson and Gary Busey movie “Barbarossa”. I was always told they were still shooting the Hebs at that time. That’s why they went the gas route because,a lot of the guys couldn’t stomach shooting unarmed people . I remember Barbarossa,that’s when uncle Adolph put into play his “let’s f**l stalin plan”. The one thing I find interesting about when hitler and papa Joe first got together. I heard it was hitler come from the west,stalin come from the east. They were gonna split Poland . Something like that. Whatever it was,I was never taught that in school. We were taught hitler went kicking ass and taking names . Right across Poland . I only read about that a month ago. Hell the history books back then made stalin look like,”one of the boys”. Fact is every damn side involved,was guilty of some crime. It’s just nobody will ever wag fingers at the victors.

                Comment by Tim — July 23, 2015 @ 3:50 pm

                • The Nazis did shoot large numbers of Jews in the East at the beginning of the invasion of the Soviet Union. They switched to gas in order ease the burden on their men. The mass shootings were stressful and caused psychological damage to the killers. Shirer wrote that Himmler witnessed a shooting and became sick.

                  Comment by P.O. Truth — July 26, 2015 @ 9:32 pm

                • The Soviets and Nazis did agree to split Poland between as part of a secret protocol in the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Officially this was a Non-Aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union but it also included setting up spheres of influence in the Baltics along with the partition of Poland.

                  Comment by P.O. Truth — July 26, 2015 @ 9:39 pm

              • At his trial? You mean the judicial farce led by Moshe Landau (the guy who later made torture – or as they put it ‘moderate physical pressure’ as a lawful mode of interrogation – legal in Israeli jails)? Come ooooon…

                Comment by hermie — July 23, 2015 @ 7:22 pm

                • It was General Attorney Hausner who made later fortune with a book pubblished by Harper and Rouw and a sound career. He did never explain why he did not called Benjamin Murmelstein – who had to meet Eichmann and his staff members from May 1938 until April 1945 – to give evidence. In this way some points had never been clearified and other not even brought at the attention of the Court.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 25, 2015 @ 9:42 am

                • Herr Hermie/Goebbels jr. In my opinion Eichmann had been questioned by persons without any knowledge of things and so he could pass as a banal little executer of orders as presented by Hanna Arendt, true disciple of Nazi philopher Heidegger. I think that Eichmann had had knowledge of many very important facts and deeds of persons who had managed after the war end to change side. So, an important source for historical research had been lost.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 26, 2015 @ 7:25 am

                • In my opinion Eichmann merely didn’t want to see Israeli brutes ‘visit’ his relatives if he had refused to cooperate. So he just sang like a well-trained canary what his gaolers had told him to sing during his show trial. He could as well have sung that he had deported 6 trillion Jews to Mars where they had suffocated because of the lack of an atmosphere there if his ‘interrogators’ had ordered him to do so. But you can fantasize about lost important historical information if you like that.

                  Comment by hermie — July 27, 2015 @ 7:50 am

    • Gysi is only a Comunist and a betrayer so of Germany as of the Jewish comunity.

      Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 21, 2015 @ 11:16 am

      • “Gysi is a betrayer so of Germany as of the Jewish comunity.”

        Antithetical. Nonsensical paradox detected.😉

        Wha is bad for Germany can’t also be bad for the Jews. Jews are the deadly enemies of Germany and of all the other Gentile nations. The Germans are dying out because their worst enemy prevailed 70 years ago and is still ruling over them today.

        It seems that the Germans, and the British, and the White Americans, and the Belgians, and the Danes, etc, because their survival matters less than the continuation of Jewish hegemony over them for a few more decades.

        Gysi is not a betrayer. He only exposes aloud what most Jews think and do…

        Comment by hermie — July 21, 2015 @ 8:51 pm

        • edit: the Danes, etc, must die out…

          Comment by hermie — July 21, 2015 @ 8:52 pm

          • Starting first WWI and then WWII Europe commited suicide which causes the present demographic crisis of Germany, France, England, Russia, etc. Furthermiore, during the last months of war in Germany even 14.15 old younghsters had been sent to the battle front with heavy losses.

            Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 22, 2015 @ 8:17 am

        • And you are a good companion for Gysi and intellectuals like him. Nowadays we see that Chancellor Merkel is the leading figure in Europe. The present demografical crisis in Europe is the result of the two World Wars.

          Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 21, 2015 @ 11:33 pm

          • Gysi and the other Jews as arrogant & self-confident as him – who open their mouths recklessly and expose Jewry’s genocidal agenda in full light – are indeed a blessing for me. Many White morons need to hear the Jewish agenda from the horse’s mouth to believe in it.

            “The present demografical crisis in Europe is the result of the two World Wars.”

            Have you already found some people dumb enough to believe in that? The demographic crisis in Europe, and in the formerly-White world in general, was mainly caused by Jew-led feminism. Combined with the Jew-led non-White mass immigration & race-mixing propaganda in those countries, Jewry is in fact implementing a real genocide and will pay for that.

            Comment by hermie — July 22, 2015 @ 6:37 am

            • Roger Waters ( bass player for Pink Floyd) got into an argument with Dionne Warwick. It seems Israel murdered 4 little Palestinian children,who were playing on the beach. Rocket hit them. Only a few people were there. Certainly not any military force. How come the jews never get taged for that shit ? I’d be saying the same thing if this was Jewish children. So they’re Palestinian children. Does that mean the douchebag jews don’t have to answer for that crime? For the most part,blacks have put the slavery issue and their fight for equality behind them. There’s still some that want to use the “feel sorry for me. I’m the poor abused black man.” That seems to be going on with the jews. ALL OF THEM ARE SAYING THAT. Why is it the Jews can’t grow balls? Why can’t they,cowboy the f**k up? There seems to be a “Martin Luther King ” blvd. in every major city. No problem. When it comes to the Jews,they want everything,in every city,to be about them. I used to side with the Jews . More and more I’m finding out the truth about their BS shenanigans. They’ve lost my support. I’m pretty sure there are other people out there like me. So are the Jews actually that f**kin stupid to think that everyone is just going to go on buying their shit? How many more innocent children will they murder,before people realize what theyre all about?

              Comment by Tim — July 22, 2015 @ 8:46 am

            • You really think so? Do you know how many people died in WWI and then in WWII and in related deseases? You could sign as GOEBBELS Jr. when commenting a post on this site.

              Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 22, 2015 @ 10:48 am

              • Glad to see you two are still playing nice. I was worried I wasn’t gonna be able to sell the rest of the tickets for yalls fight at Caesars Palace.

                Comment by Tim — July 22, 2015 @ 11:07 am

              • Aren’t Sweden and Switzerland, both neutral countries during WW1 and WW2, also on the decline demographically speaking as far as their native populations are concerned (so without taking account of immigrants and their offspring), wolfie?

                Your lies can’t stand scrutiny and logic for a minute, as usually…

                Comment by hermie — July 23, 2015 @ 9:23 am

            • I, uh, wow.
              I did not know that Jews ran the world. I’m shocked that I’ve never seen the truth. Thank you for opening my eyes. It’s much easier now that I know I can blame the Jews for all of the evil in the world.
              (Falling over laughing)

              Comment by P. O. Truth — July 22, 2015 @ 2:21 pm

              • Oh come on now. These countries that have “H” denial laws. Where does that make sense? No. Somebody put a bug in their ears. I thought these countries had freedom of speech. Clearly they don’t . Give me a good reason for these laws. Hell,I can’t stand the Klan or the ABs,but in this country they’re gauranteed free speech. Too bad the Bill of Rights didn’t say,”ignorant racists are not allowed free speech”. However bottom line,they’re allowed free speech and assembly.

                Comment by Tim — July 22, 2015 @ 3:38 pm

                • There are now Holocaust denial laws in 20 countries. When you have to make a law that no one can correct history, there is something wrong. The Holocaust is the only thing that people can’t deny. This should immediately make everyone suspicious.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 22, 2015 @ 4:45 pm

                • That’s why I said in the military they’d give “their version” of what happened. It was that until the end of time. People start digging,the truth is gonna come out. There are people that still respect free speech. The Herminator sent me a link to a story about, Horst Mahler. It was in Kraut so I couldn’t read it. I googled his name and got some stories on him. I also got a story on his wife, Sylvia Stolz. Here’s why I said some people still appreciate free speech. Enter her name at YouTube. A 40 minute ( something like that) will pop up. She was at the “AZK Conference”. 2,000 people. After she spoke her peice, she got a standing ovation. They’re speaking kraut in the film,but it’s subtitled in English. I highly recommend watching it. As for Mr. Mahler. He has a website. The candy ass liberals at wiki won’t list it. I ran across another site called,”badder-meinhoff. I’m not positive,but they sound touchy feely libs too. They’ve got him labeled as the HNIC for some kraut terrorist group ( although they call it a gang). They were crying that he gave a jew journalist the “hi yo” ( I don’t know how to spell that word,so that’s what I use) hitler salute. I’m thinking the man probably just had his hand,arm and elbow at the wrong angle and they label it a hitler salute. Libs are such cry babies. At any rate watch his wife’s video. It’s good

                  Comment by Tim — July 22, 2015 @ 6:34 pm

                • I personally am against H denial being a crime. 2 reasons:
                  Free speech
                  There are those who will be drawn to it bcz it is a crime. Better to bring it
                  out in the open so people can see how ridiculous it is.

                  Comment by P. O. Truth — July 22, 2015 @ 10:31 pm

                • The Free Speech ought to have the limit of forbiddibg diffusion of hatred and incitement to crimes. Hitler wrote the MEIN KAMPF enjoing Free Speech; result well known. Nowadays ISIS should enjoy free speech for diffusion of its hatred?

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 22, 2015 @ 10:52 pm

                • Holocaust denial is a prefered way neonazis use to spray hatred, not only against Jews. Governments who learned the lesson of History want to avoid troubles related with hatred neonazis let circulate. In USA you did not learn the historical lesson; see KKK, Police abuses, etc.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 23, 2015 @ 2:21 am

                • Son. Don’t preach to me about the Klan. My moma grew up in Alabama in the 30’s . The Klan ran the entire state. I used the “N” word ( had no idea what I was talking about) one time. That lady knocked me across the room. She saw a black man,swinging from a tree one time. I remember 4 little black girls murdered. At a church in Birmingham,Alabama . Dynamite Bob. That’s the Klan member responsible for it. That peice of shit is worshipped by present klan members. Don’t drag the cops into this. Yes. There are corrupt ones. It’s the God damn liberal news organizations that put “their” spin on it. I’ve pulled time asshole. I put myself in that position . Now I’m friends with quite a few law enforcement people. I get involved in “police week” and the DEAs “Red Ribbon Week”. Why don’t you drag your snot nosed ass over to http://www.odmp.org. Read how those officers fell. Asshole outlaws murdered half of em. Don’t you dare put me in the group as those assholes at the AB or Klan. You don’t know what hate is. Trust me boy,you don’t wanna know. I found my happy ass in a shithole southeast Asian country. I’m shooting at some man,because he’s “my antithesis,enemy”. Choose what ever word you please! How the f**k was he my enemy? I didn’t even know the man. He probably had a family that loved him,same as me. I know for a fact,I killed 4 men. It was either them or me. I can rationalize that from now until hell freezes over. I still killed them. That’s nothing to proud of ! I learned to live with it. At the time it didn’t much bother me. I was “taught”,to hate the NVA and VC. I was taught not to trust the south Vietnamese . You know what I’ve figured out ? Don’t let people control your feelings or thought. Yeah. I’ve seen people on here with downright hateful attitudes towards the jews. They’ve flat out wished death upon the jews. IM NOT ONE OF EM! I’m here to get “both sides” of the story. Have you ever seen FG wish death upon the jews? I’ve said it before,” I don’t deny ,I question”. I’ve found out,in a war there’s enough guilt for everyone! Like I said. You don’t know hate. You don’t me. Untill such time,don’t you dare put me in the same group as the rest of those piss ignorant mother fuckers! I’ve found out , I can learn from anybody. If you wish to impart some wisdom on me,I’ll listen. Just don’t sit there and tell me I hate someone and I want them dead. I’ve said the thing that botherse most about this,is denial of free speech to another human being . Yes Virginia . There’s a huge difference between “free speech” and “inciting a riot “. For me this deals with free speech. I may not agree with your opinions,but I respect the fact,that as a human being,you’re entitled to have them. You see I’ll take evidence from both sides. Then and only then will I make my final decision.

                  Comment by Tim — July 23, 2015 @ 9:57 am

                • “Hitler wrote the MEIN KAMPF enjoing Free Speech; result well known.”

                  Result well known one and a half month after the beginning of WW2…

                  “Herr Hans Ziegler, a ranking official in the [German] Propaganda Minister, emphasized [in a book which never existed] that the coming world war would be the annihilation of the six million Jews in East and Central Europe” – The Jewish Criterion, October 13, 1939, p. 2 (https://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/revision/sixmillion/1939JewishCriterionSixMillion.jpg)

                  …or was that rather decades before WW2?😉

                  Comment by hermie — July 23, 2015 @ 7:42 pm

                • Dear Tim! At time of Holocaust I had been a little boy, now am an 79 old man in bad health conditions. I myself and my Family faced fanatical hatred. We, like all other fellow Jews, stood helpless in face of the SS men who were full of hatred and well equipped with weapons. And now the negationists come and enjoy free speech to deny what we had suffered. Some people tortures aged survivors with questions on details a victim – and even many SS men – can hardly know and the negationist fault finders speack of contradictions and, worse, of lies. I know the hatred Negroes had to face; remembre that Martin Luther Kinfìg had had many jewish supporters.I think that so the history of Slavery as that of Holocaust have share many things and should be studied much better. Good bye. Your Wolf.

                  Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 24, 2015 @ 3:53 am

                • Like I said,moma saw it first hand growing up in Alabama . I asked if anyone ever stood trial for hanging that black man that she saw. She told me she didn’t think so. She said someone eventually cut the body down,but I don’t think it was quickly done. The 4 little black girls Dynamite Bob murdered when he blew up the church in Birmingham,Alabama . They just wanted to hear the Lords word. Instead they were killed. A lady at the church who was severely injured spoke with a reporter some years back. She said she forgave Bob . The Christian thing to do,but I don’t know if I could’ve done that. She said he’ll face his maker. I’ve said before I hate the Klan and ABs. They’ve bought more than their share of problems in this country. I don’t like the black panthers. They’re the black version of the klan. I’d love to shut all those assholes down,but that would be shittin on the memory of anyone who’s ever fought for freedom. I’ve mentioned this before, but I’ve gotta man that works for me. He’s a 100% Mayan Indian. They were a great civilization,but the idiot that runs Guatemala don’t think so. He got lil holocaust going. Sal had to run for his life literally. He’s here as a political refugee. Bad part about this,he missed out on his baby girl growing up. She’s gettin married this November . He can’t give her away. When she has his first grandchild,he’s not gonna be able the baby. He couldn’t even bury his own moma. He goes back home,he’s a dead man. Have you ever had to endure that? Here’s the f**ked up part about the whole thing. The Reagan Adminnistration was in bed with this cocksucker. Now if we question it,they’d probably deny that idiot killed Mayans. The thing of it is,we can question it without fear of going to jail. Like I said they’ll never admit they did anything wrong,but we have thefreedom to question that. The state of Mississippi. They still have the Rebel flag on their state flag. I don’t like that. That state has a high population of blacks. That flag stands as a symbol of a shitty time in our countries history. Everything here deals with freedom . You don’t have people giving you their opinion. People want to question the holocaust,that’s should be their right if they live in a free speaking country. Yall are no different that Castro or that sawed of fat little bastard that runs North Korea . It hurts people’s feelings when people question this? Welcome to the world. Nobodies loved. How do you think the black folks feel that live in Jackson,Mississippi ? That’s the state Capitol . What about the black people that work in the Capitol building. They have to see the rebel flag every day they come to work . Bottom line the elected officials voted to keep it on there. Just because I question something,don’t give nobody the right to say I’m a hate filled person. I’ve seen enough hate in my life. Saw it growing up. Saw it in war and I know for a fact that is not me. From where I sit,everything in this toilet earth has gotten way outta control. Time for God to just wipe it clean. Next time around,leave the human race outta the mix

                  Comment by Tim — July 24, 2015 @ 10:13 am

                • Wolfie wrote: ” We, like all other fellow Jews, stood helpless in face of the SS men who were full of hatred and well equipped with weapons. And now the negationists come and enjoy free speech to deny what we had suffered.”

                  You know very well that the “negationists” (or “Holocaust deniers”, or any other defamatory term you use to belittle them) NEVER denied that some Jews suffered (and died, etc.) in Europe during WW2. You know as well that the “negationists” always talked about an alleged Nazi policy of systematic mass murder of 6 million Jews with the aim of a race extinction. As I don’t believe that you’re a total moron unable to understand such a basic distinction, I think that you (and the numerous other ones doing that) just pretend not to understand what the “negationists” are talking about because you know that the extermination file is desperately empty. The Negroes have suffered for centuries in America and that doesn’t mean that any US government has already attempted to exterminate them all.

                  Comment by hermie — July 24, 2015 @ 5:44 pm

                • P.O. Truth wrote: “Better to bring it out in the open so people can see how ridiculous it is.”

                  Makes perfect sense.

                  But that’s not what’s happening and what has happened since the end of WW2. How do you explain that? Why would people having mountains of solid proofs in their hands refuse so tenaciously to use their owerpowering weapons of mass demonstration to nuke the “deniers” as often as possible in public debates? Why does the pro-Zionist media, politicians and scholars protect the “deniers” from their own [alleged] ridiculousness with so much energy? Magnanimity? Kindness? That’s utterly nonsensical !! Unless all those influent people know that their so-called proofs are in fact a big paper tiger unable to withstand challenge, thorough scrutiny and open debate.

                  Comment by hermie — July 24, 2015 @ 6:02 pm

            • Do Yoi know how many men aged 20-40 years – able to have offsprings – lost their life in WWI and WWII? How manny civilians lost their life? Instead of looking at the statical figures You – and your friends – spray antisemite hatred, unfortunatey, enjoying “free speech”. There is an opinion that femminism is a result just of WWI and WWII. Seat down to learn before spraying non sense and hatred!

              Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 23, 2015 @ 4:18 am

              • Herr Hermie! For Hitler and many of his true follower the destruction of Jewish people had been an absolute priority. Hitler somewhere – I do not remember where – recalled the gas attack he had suffered in WWI and exclaimed that the same ought to occure to the Jews. The gassing with Zyclon B – a German product – resulted an easy way for mass killings so of Jews as for Gypsis and others. I suppose You know the Nazi racist doctrine well enough. And I am WOLF – who would like to bite You – and not wolfie. Clear?

                Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — July 25, 2015 @ 6:32 am

                • “Hitler somewhere – I do not remember where – recalled the gas attack he had suffered in WWI and exclaimed that the same ought to occure to the Jews. ”

                  That was in Mein Kampf. And Hitler was not talking about “the Jews” as you wrote. He was talking about the Marxist leaders, who happened to be a majority of Jews, as well as the other “traitors, [war] profiteers, usurers, and swindlers”. THEY were the “Hebrew corrupters of the people” mentioned by Hitler in that quote. Moreover Hitler was saying that those anti-national elements should have been sent on the front line (where many soldiers on both sides had fell under poison gases), NOT that they should have been put to death in homicidal gas chambers as Holocaustians often claim. Stating that war profiteers and agitators should suffer the consequences of a war (“their war”, one could say) instead of benefiting from it doesn’t amount to an extermination plan as you and others imply when they use that quote.

                  Here is the quote:

                  “Only bourgeois minds can arrive at the incredible opinion that Marxism might now have changed, and that the scoundrelly leaders of 1918, who then coldly trampled two million dead underfoot, the better to climb into the various seats of government, now in 1923 were suddenly ready to render their tribute to the national conscience. An incredible and really insane idea, the hope that the traitors of former days would suddenly turn into fighters for a German freedom. It never entered their heads. No more than a hyena abandons carrion does a Marxist abandon treason. And don’t annoy me, if you please, with the stupidest of all arguments, that, after all, so many workers bled for Germany. German workers, yes, but then they were no longer international Marxists. If in 1914 the German working class in their innermost convictions had still consisted of Marxists, the War would have been over in three weeks. Germany would have collapsed even before the first soldier set foot across the border. No, the fact that the German people was then still fighting proved that the Marxist delusion had not yet been able to gnaw its way into the bottommost depths. But in exact proportion as, in the course of the War, the German worker and the German soldier fell back into the hands of the Marxist leaders, in exactly that proportion he was lost to the fatherland. If at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, th sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated in time might have saved the lives of a million real Germans, valuable for the future. But it just happened to be in the line of bourgeois ‘statesmanship’ to subject millions to a bloody end on the battlefield without batting an eyelash, but to regard ten or twelve thousand traitors, profiteers, usurers, and swindlers as a sacred national treasure and openly proclaim their inviolability. We never know which is greater in this bourgeois world, the imbecility, weakness, and cowardice, or their deep-dyed corruption. It is truly a class doomed by Fate, but unfortunately, however, it is dragging a whole nation with it into the abyss.”

                  Comment by hermie — July 25, 2015 @ 8:29 am

  3. Stalags were pocket books whose plots revealed lusty female SS officers sexually abusing camp prisoners. During the 1960s, parallel to the trial held against Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann, sales of this pornographic literature broke all records in Israel and hundreds of thousands of copies were sold at kiosks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htNs9d_6q8. If you can purchase, or download, the entire documentary it’s explained in it how some of the suvivor witnesses testimony at the Eichmann trial was influenced by the Stalag’s fictitious stories about life in the concentration camps. People’s memories of the Stalag’s atrocity porn was more vivid than their memories of what actually happened to them so they repeated that at the trial. Groening may have been coached by a gerontologist specializing in senior citizen psychology. He may be repeating what he’s heard or read. He may have cut a deal and is lying to leave his family something. One thing is for certain and it’s that he’s been hounded and harassed for decades by Jews hell bent on exacting revenge for the humility they suffered under Hitler’s plan to rid Germany of their cunning and overbearing sense of entitlement.

    Comment by who dares wings — July 18, 2015 @ 8:03 pm

  4. No proof of his complicity in the murders. He amounted to little more than a porter. That’s what he should’ve done. Minute the war broke out,haul ass to America. He could’ve gotten on as a Pullman Porter,on the City of New Orleans route. My question is this. How come none of the Hebs ever got charged with complicity? They were tossing the dead jews into the pizza oven. Don’t nobody say,”they feared for their life..” So. Are all the jews capable of going Edgar Cacey on us. So clearly they don’t know if they gonna end up torched or not. #2 . Patty Hearst tried to pull that shit in court. If I didn’t help them rob banks,they were gonna kill me. Shit. She even had access to all of pa pa Randolphs money. So the “if I didn’t do it,they were gonna kill me “defense, ain’t gonna fly. Didn’t work for Patty,it shouldn’t work for the Jews. So start taking the Jews into custody. While we’re on the subject,how do we know 300,000 is an accurate number. Well we’ve already seen these worthless,arrogant f**ks can’t perform simple math problems. They drop the number of jews down to a million at auschwitz,but the overall total of 6 million remains the same.. The one I really like us this. It took those stupid ass f**ks this long to figure out that 4 million people didn’t actually die at the Ausch. Unless somebody can give me a legitimate excuse as to why they’re just now revising their numbers,I’m gonna go on questioning their sincerity on this matter. What would’ve happened if the Krauts outta the blue,decide it’s time to change “their”. Yep. There’s a rat in the wood pile and its Jewish

    Comment by Tim — July 18, 2015 @ 5:46 pm

  5. Are you saying Groening MADE UP all that stuff he revealed in his testimony? Where would he have gotten (or avoided) all his material? Why would he go through all that rigamarole, anyway? Just to get himself a lighter sentence? Come ON!

    Next thing, you’ll tell me Elie Wiesel made up all HIS stuff just to win the Nobel Prize.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — July 18, 2015 @ 9:39 am


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