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July 23, 2015

How much influence did Geli Raubal, Hitler’s first girl friend, have on his life?

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 9:55 am
Geli Raubel, Hitler's alleged girl friend

Geli Raubal, Hitler’s niece & alleged girl friend

In doing some research on Hitler’s alleged girl friend, Geli Raubal, the most surprising thing that I learned was that journalist Nerin E. Gun wrote about her. But I will get to that later.  If you can’t wait, scroll down.

The following quote about Geli Raubal is from this source:

There was nothing peaceful about this brutal tyrant [Hitler]. Under his leadership, the Nazi regime was responsible for the genocide of at least 5.5 million Jews and millions of other people who were deemed “sub-human.” Ironically, his first love was a Jewish girl.

Say what?

You don’t hear much about Geli Raubal any more. The story of her untimely death, and the rumor that she was killed by her alleged lover, Adolph Hitler, seems to have faded away. Geli was Hitler’s half niece, the daughter of his half sister Angela and her husband Leo Raubal. Geli was allegedly Jewish, which makes the story even more unbelievable.

Legend has it that Geli (her full name was Angele) was extremely beautiful, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as we all know.  Look at the photo below and judge for yourself if she was Jewish.

Geli Raubel is shown on the left (click to enlarge photo)

Geli Raubel is shown on the left (click to enlarge photo)

The following account of her untimely death is from this source

Ronald Hayman, the author of Hitler & Geli (1997) has suggested: “What seems to have happened shortly before Geli died is that Hitler, who often changed his mind at the last minute, reversed his decision about letting her go to Vienna. It is quite likely that the other Nazi leaders were putting pressure on him. Though they would all have been glad to get rid of her, they may have told him it was unsafe to set her free: she knew too much.

They may have found out that she had confided in other men about Hitler’s sexual habits, and Schwarz knew she had modelled for his pornographic drawings. If she talked indiscreetly in Vienna, stories might get picked up by the liberal press at the worst.”

On the morning of Saturday, 19th September, 1931, Geli’s body was found on the floor of her room in the flat. A meeting was held by leading officials, including Franz Schwarz, Gregor Strasser, Baldur von Schirach, Max Amann and Rudolf Hess. They discussed what they should do before the police were brought to Hitler’s apartment.

Eventually, the police were called and Detective Sauer arrived and interviewed the witnesses. Schwarz insisted that Hitler had not been in the apartment at the time of Geli’s death. However, he did discover that the Walther 6.35 pistol that killed Geli was owned by Hitler.

According to the police report, Geli Raubal had been bleeding from a wound near her heart and her clothes were soaked with blood. She was lying face downwards, with her nose against the floor. One arm was stretched out towards the pistol, a Walther 6.35, which was on the couch. The bullet, which had missed her heart, had pierced her lung. Still in her body, it had lodged on the left side of her back above the level of her hip.

On the table was an unfinished letter, which was not a suicide note. It was addressed to someone in Vienna. The police report said that it was to a girlfriend but Baldur von Schirach has claimed it was to her music teacher. The tone was cheerful, and the letter broke off in the middle of the sentence: “When I come to Vienna – I hope very soon – we’ll drive together to Semmering an…” (Semmering is an attractive health resort outside Vienna.)

The police doctor, Dr Müller, certified that the time of Geli’s death was the evening of 18th September: “Rigor mortis had set in several hours previously. It was a fatal shot that penetrated through the dress to pass directly through the skin above the heart, which it in any case missed. It did not come out of the body but lodged in the left side of the back, rather above the level of the hip, where it could be felt beneath the skin.”

Geli Raubel, Hitler's half niece

Geli Raubal, Hitler’s half niece, posing with her puppies

The following quote is from this source:

Geli also complained about the way Hitler controlled her life. Bridget Hitler claimed that her son told her a story that he had got from Anni Winter, Hitler’s housekeeper. She had overheard an argument about Geli wanting to go and stay in Vienna. Geli was very upset because he [Hitler] had originally given his approval but then changed his mind.

Bridget heard Hitler say: “You say you have to go to Vienna? Is it to see that filthy Jew, the one who claims to be a singing teacher? Is that it? Have you been seeing him secretly again? Have you forgotten I forbade you to have anything to do with him? Tell me the truth now. Why do you want to go to Vienna?” According to Bridget she replied: “I have to go to Vienna, Uncle Alf, because I’m going to have a baby.”

The following quote about Geli mentions Nerin E. Gunn, a journalist who wrote about the Holocaust:

Geli also began a relationship with Emil Maurice, his [Hitler’s] chauffeur and bodyguard. Maurice later told Nerin E. Gun, the author of Eva Braun: Hitler’s Mistress (1969), about Geli. He testified that “Her big eyes were a poem and she had magnificent hair.

People in the street would turn round to take another look at her, though people don’t do that in Munich.” Maurice was aware that Hitler was very interested in Geli: “He liked to show her off everywhere; he was proud of being seen in the company of such an attractive girl. He was convinced that in this way he impressed his comrades in the party, whose wives or girlfriends nearly all looked like washerwomen.”

Maurice admitted that he was “madly in love” with Geli and “I decided to become engaged to Geli… she gladly accepted my proposal”. Henriette Hoffmann believes that Geli was in love with Maurice: “He was a sensitive man, not just someone who took pride in fighting, and there was a genuine tenderness behind his affability.”

Geli told Henriette that she no longer wanted to be loved by Hitler and preferred her relationship with Maurice: “Being loved is boring, but to love a man, you know, to love him – that’s what life is about. And when you can love and be loved at the same time, it’s paradise.”

I have written about Nerin E. Gun on the following posts on my blog: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/nerin-e-gun/

Nerin E. Gun was a prisoner at Dachau. He was not quite accurate in what he wrote about Dachau, so I don’t trust his information about Hitler and Geli.

Geli and Hitler

Geli and Hitler

Here is the full story on Geli and Hitler quoted from this source:

Geli Raubal, the daughter of Leo Raubal and Angela Raubal, was born in Linz on 4th June, 1908. When Adolf Hitler rented a house in Obersalzberg he asked his half-sister, Angela Raubal, now a widow, to be his housekeeper. She agreed and in August 1928 brought Geli with her to stay with Hitler.

Geli became a close friend of Henriette Hoffmann, the young daughter of Heinrich Hoffmann, Hitler’s official photographer. The two young women went to the local lake together. After swimming naked they let the sun dry their bodies: “One day a cluster of butterflies settled on the naked Geli. We made ourselves garlands of strawberry leaves and put them on. For us the world was a garden, a forest glade, with fairies dancing in the moonlight and fauns with goat feet making music. We thought life was a party that was just beginning. We didn’t know the forest glade was a battlefield you couldn’t leave till you were defeated. We didn’t know the world was rough and mean and stupid.”

Hitler told Otto Wagener: “I can sit next to young women who leave me completely cold. I feel nothing, or they actually irritate me. But a girl like the little Hoffmann or Geli (Raubal) – with them I become cheerful and bright, and if I have listened for an hour to their perhaps silly chatter – or I have only to sit next to them – then I am free of all weariness and listlessness I can go back to work refreshed.” Hitler once commented: “Nothing is more enjoyable than educating a young thing – a girl of eighteen or twenty, as pliable as wax.”

Joachim Fest, the author of Hitler (1973), wrote: “The affection Hitler felt for this pretty, superficial niece soon developed into a passionate relationship hopelessly burdened by his intolerance, his romantic ideal of womanhood and avuncular scruples.” Patrick Hitler met her during this period: “Geli looks more like a child than a girl. You couldn’t call her pretty exactly, but she had great natural charm. She usually went without a hat and wore very plain clothes, pleated skirts and white blouses. No jewellery except a gold swastika given to her by Uncle Adolf, whom she called Uncle Alf.”

Hitler, who had now turned forty, became infatuated with Geli and rumours soon spread that he was having an affair with his young niece. Hitler told Heinrich Hoffman: “You know, Hoffmann, I’m so concerned about Geli’s future that I feel I have to watch over her. I love Geli and could marry her. Good! But you know what my viewpoint is. I want to remain single. So I retain the right to exert an influence on her circle of friends until such a time as she finds the right man. What Geli sees as compulsion is simply prudence. I want to stop her from falling into the hands of someone unsuitable.”

Adolf Hitler also took her with him to meetings. Baldur von Schirach commented: “The girl at Hitler’s side was of medium size, well developed, had dark, rather wavy hair, and lively brown eyes. A flush of embarrassment reddened the round face as she entered the room with him, and sensed the surprise caused by his appearance. I too stared at her for a long time, not because she was pretty to look at but because it was simply astonishing to see a young girl at Hitler’s side when he appeared at a large gathering of people. He chatted animatedly to her, patted her hand and scarcely paused long enough for her to say anything. Punctually at eleven o’clock he stood up to leave the party with Geli, who had gradually become more animated. I had the impression Geli would have liked to stay longer.”

10 Comments »

  1. geli was not a jew, but his first (kinda) girlfriend was. i think your confused. she was his second girlfriend

    Comment by BetterThanYou — May 4, 2016 @ 4:55 pm

  2. I believe it was murder, but by whom, I do not know……assume Adolph did it.

    Comment by ricky — December 4, 2015 @ 2:30 pm

  3. Now that I’ve seen a picture of Geli Rabaul I think Eva Braun was prettier.

    Comment by HCW — August 1, 2015 @ 10:24 am

  4. Clearly they both loved animals. I’ve heard everything from,his mother got VD from a jew,he was part jew and his ex here,being the reason he hated jews. Anyone have the definitive answer?

    Comment by Tim — July 23, 2015 @ 11:01 am

    • There is no evidence his mother ever caught VD from a Jew, I’ve never heard that. As far as I know she was actually a sweet woman, dominated by Hitler’s father. She apparently doted on Hitler. I’ve heard that during WWI Hitler caught VD from a Jewish prostituite while he was a soldier but I also discount that as completely unfounded. Shirer believed that Hitler’s anti-semitism started when he lived in Vienna before the war (basing this on Mein Kampf) however Richard Evans and Laurence Rees both believed that this started after the war, citing instances where Hitler was friendly with Jews in Vienna. I guess it depends on who you read. Rees’ book is the Dark Charisma of Adolph Hitler and Evans is the Coming of the Third Reich.

      Comment by P. O. Truth — July 23, 2015 @ 11:34 am

      • I can’t say where I heard any of that. I know it was when I was growing up. It was probably from some vets or someone may have asked it in history class. I know a person just don’t wake up one morning and decide to hate someone or an entire group of people. I spent my teen years growing up in Orlando . Pop bought our house there because that’s where mom wanted him to retire. At any rate this was Orlando way before Mickey and Minnie Mouse showed up. Still a backwater,inbred,redneck town. I heard someone make a statement that ,”Friday would be a good night to go hunt nigras ( it came out sounding like “nigras” because of their hick accent)” I mention the “magic word” moma knocked me half way across the room. She proceeded to tell me she grew up around that shit. She said she’d be damned if that went on under her roof. Pop was born and raised in a small Pennsylvania town. The town was all whites. He knew what racism was, it just affected him. That’s why I kinda figured maybe In his younger years something happened where he got a dislike for jews. Thanks

        Comment by Tim — July 23, 2015 @ 12:15 pm

      • I also know that Hans Frank investigated the possibility that Hitler had Jewish origins but nothing ever came from it.

        Comment by P. O. Truth — July 23, 2015 @ 12:27 pm

        • Who was behind the Versailles cntract which killed hundred of thousands – mostly kids?
          Here is enough munition to develop anti-Jewish supremacism sentiments. Jews were responsible for Germany loosing WW1. Imagine this would have been done be Canadians to Americans? We are supposed to love our murderers because their God ordered them to kill all cultures and enslave all with a hatred really unlived and unknown lived rhythmically – year by year – since over 2000’years. We do mean nothing to most of them. Sad are indeed such death-cult religions.

          Comment by Mic — July 26, 2015 @ 10:51 am

          • I don’t know what any of that means. Versailles was a treaty, not a contract.
            Germany lost WWI because of a variety of reasons, notably their weak allies, British blockade, the entrance of the U.S., etc. Germany did force Russia out of the war, ironically because of their use of the partly Jewish Lenin, but lacked the time to exploit the territories gained through the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. Fresh U.S. Troops combined with the strain of fighting for 4 years doomed the Germans, not a Jewish cabal back in Berlin. Kaiser Wilhelm was a committed anti-Semite.

            Comment by P. O. Truth — July 26, 2015 @ 7:30 pm

            • Though, come to think of it, as treaties are legally binding documents I guess you could call them contracts:

              Comment by P. O. Truth — July 26, 2015 @ 7:39 pm


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