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August 3, 2015

The story of Holocauast survivor Albert Rosa, as told in his own words

Filed under: Buchenwald, California, Holocaust — Tags: , , , , — furtherglory @ 11:17 am

Yesterday, I had the privilege of hearing Holocaust survivor Albert Rosa speak to a crowd of people in Folsom, CA. [Yes, the town of Folsom, about which Johnny Cash sang, in his famous song Folsom Prison Blues]

In the past, I have blogged about Albert Rosa at Dachau here. In his speech at Folsom, he briefly mentioned Kaufering and Dachau, but didn’t elaborate on what he did there.

You can read about what Albert Rosa essentially said in his speech on this website:

Eventually, he was transported from Greece to Poland in a cattle truck. They were cramped in that space for 10 days and nights with no food, water or facilities. People were suffocating and starving to death. The air was hot and filled with the smell of decomposing bodies.

“The children were crying, ‘Mommy I’m hungry, I’m thirsty,’” said Rosa. “Me, I was an athlete, I used to compete in other sports, I could take the punishment.”

When they arrived at the “death camps” they had been totally dehumanized. Those who were too old or too young for slave labor were sent to the gas chambers. Rosa had never seen a crematory before that, but the horrible smoke that filled the air was impossible to ignore.

In the concentration camp, the men and women were divided. Shortly after their arrival, Rosa traded uniforms with another prisoner to see his older sister Luna. His sister, who had once been beautiful and wealthy, was now malnourished and bald, which broke Rosa’s heart.

For just a moment Rosa forgot he was in a concentration camp; he called out to his sister and a female guard noticed. He watched as they killed his sister and then took her away in small wagon “like trash.”

On the day of Albert Rosa’s speech, I arrived early and was escorted down to the 2nd row, where I was sitting only a few feet away from Rosa, who did not stand on a stage while he talked.

I was treated very well by everyone, with whom I came in contact there; I think that I was mistaken for a Jew. I had purchased a ticket online and printed it out, but the man at the door didn’t take my ticket; he just waved me on through the door, which was being manned by a guy with a beard, dressed entirely in black, including a large black hat.

Fortunately, before going to hear the speech, I had read Rosa’s story on the Internet at http://www.jewishjournal.com/survivor/article/survivor_albert_rosa_20120315

Rosa’s speech, in Folsom, covered everything that is included in the link above, and nothing more. I had brought a notepad with me and was prepared to take notes, but this was impossible because he talked a-mile-a-minute and there was not enough time for me to take even very short notes.  Besides that, he spoke with a heavy Greek accent which I could not understand. I could only catch a few words here and there.

As everyone knows, Albert Rosa is famous for the fact that he did not mention the Holocaust, nor his imprisonment, for over 50 years. This has caused many people to think that he was never in a concentration camp. Rosa explained all that in his speech.  He said that he had had “electric shock treatment” late in life and after that, he remembered everything and he began to talk.   [Electric shock treatment used to be used as a cure for mental illness, so I don’t think that he should have mentioned this.]

Strangely, Albert Rosa does not have an entry on Wikipedia.

For his Folsom speech, Rosa had brought along an 8 by 10 photo album, filled with faded and yellowed photographs, which he showed on a huge screen on the stage behind him.

Before he began his talk, there was a huge photo of prisoners at Buchenwald put up on  the screen. It was a faded and yellowed copy of the photo below.

Famous photo taken at Buchenwald allegedly shows Eli Wiesel

Famous photo taken at Buchenwald allegedly shows Eli Wiesel (Click on the photo to enlarge)

As this photo was up on the screen, no one in the audience said a word.  I suspect that few people in the audience knew that this was a photo of Buchenwald, not Auschwitz, where Rosa was allegedly a prisoner. Rosa used this photo to show what the beds were like in Auschwitz.

During his talk, Rosa said that the prisoners at Auschwitz slept on beds like the beds shown in the photo.  He should have tried to locate a photo of the bunks at Auschwitz, which were nothing like these bunk beds.

Every Holocaust survivor’s story must include some version of the claim that the survivor saw an SS man bash a baby’s head against the side of a train.  Rosa claimed to have seen this on the very day that he arrived at Auschwitz.

He claimed that he was on a train, bound for Auschwitz, for 10 days and 10 nights, without food or water. On the train, he was dressed only in his shorts [underwear] and he had no shoes. He said that he rested on a dead body on the train.

Recently, there has been a story in the news about two young Jewish boys who went out into the ocean, and their boat capsized.  The search for the boys has been called off  because allegedly, a young healthy Jewish boy cannot survive more than four days without water.  The search should continue because Albert Rosa has proved that a Jew can go without food or water for TEN days.

During his talk, Rosa mentioned a friend who was hanged at Auschwitz and his body was left hanging for days.  As he said this, a photo that was taken at Buchenwald, was shown.  Rosa claimed that this was a photo of his friend. I wonder how many people in the audience noticed that there were American soldiers in the backgrounds of the photo, so this could not have been taken at Auschwitz. [American soldiers did not liberate Auschwitz.]

Throughout his talk, the photos changed.  Strangely, all the photos were taken at Bergen-Belsen, including the photo of the Auschwitz commandant, who was sent to Bergen-Belsen when Auschwitz closed.

Josef Kramer

Josef Kramer, Auschwtiz commandant

Many photos of Bergen-Belsen were shown during his speech, but were purported to have been taken at Auschwitz.

Rosa made many mistakes in his story, as he talked about Auschwitz. For example, he said that he talked to his older sister, Luna, through a CHAIN LINK FENCE.  At this point, he should have put up an old photo of a chain link fence at Auschwitz.  I have been to Auschwitz 3 times, and all the chin link fences are now gone.

Rosa claimed that he had seen his sister killed by an SS man, who then threw her naked body onto a pile of bodies.  I find it hard to believe this story. He showed an old photo of his sister, and kept saying how beautiful she was.  He seemed to be saying that this was a more heinous crime because she was so beautiful.

Rosa also told about taking an SS ring from the dead body of an SS man, whom he had killed by using his boxing skills. He had this ring changed into a ring with a Jewish emblem and he used it later to hit an SS man, scarring his face with a Jewish emblem.  The audience loved this story.

During his speech, Rosa brought out his 5 medals, which he had earned fighting with the American Army after he escaped from a concentration camp. He also mentioned that he had fought with the Irgun. I was surprised that he told this.

I don’t know how old Albert Rosa is, but he is in very good shape for a man who allegedly survived the Holocaust.  His daughter was there, helping him with his photos.  She is very beautiful and seems to be in very good health.

Most of the people in the audience were young people; many of the girls and young women were wearing shorts, which I don’t think was appropriate for a speech about the Holocaust.  There were not enough seats in the auditorium and three rows of young people had to sit on the floor in front of the stage.

In closing, I have to say that “a good time was had by all.”

27 Comments »

  1. furtherglory, I don’t know how old Albert Rosa is, but he is in very good shape for a man who allegedly survived the Holocaust

    your link: “Albert was born Jan. 25, 1925, in Salonika, Greece”

    The guy is over 90 years old, not bad.

    your link: “the group panicked when they reached a wide river, too deep to wade across. Soldiers stood on a small bridge, firing at them with machine guns as they tried to swim to safety.”

    Why would one swim across a river over which stands a bridge?

    Comment by a reader — August 3, 2015 @ 11:59 pm

    • Wikipedia has a page about the rivers near Dachau: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%BCrm

      If there were soldiers standing on the bridge, shooting at them, the prisoners could not have used the bridge. However, as I recall the story of Dachau, the bridge near the Dachau camp was out. Was Albert escaping from Dachau at that point?

      As for him being 90 years old, he does not look a day over 80. He has almost no wrinkles on his face, only a few wrinkles around his eyes. His hair is iron grey, not white. His daughter has white hair, which is why I mistook her for his wife, when I first saw her come in. Albert looks like a vigorous man who could easily have a younger wife.

      Before Albert came in, I spoke to the person next to me, asking her how old Albert is. By my calculations, he should be around 98 years old. She didn’t know, but she confirmed that Albert should be in his 90ies.

      Albert is very spry. He does not use a cane. His arms are very muscular, not like the arms of an old man. He was formerly a boxer, and he looks as if he could still go a few rounds.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 4, 2015 @ 7:12 am

  2. Survivor: Albert Rosa

    In autumn 1943, months after the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, Albert and a large group of Greek Jews who spoke neither Polish nor Yiddish were transported to Warsaw to bury the dead, whose decomposing bodies were piled up in bunkers. At the end of the almost yearlong assignment, they were commanded to blow up the ghetto. Afterward, Albert was part of a forced march from Warsaw to Dachau. He remembers that the group panicked when they reached a wide river, too deep to wade across. Soldiers stood on a small bridge, firing at them with machine guns as they tried to swim to safety.

    Albert reached Dachau and was quickly transferred to Kaufering, a subcamp. One day, in January 1945, hearing they would be killed, he and seven prisoners escaped. Two were killed immediately, and Albert, running through the forest as fast as he could, said he “left part of my face and arms on the branches.” Eventually they reached a farmhouse, where, ravenous, they ate from the pigs’ trough. And when the elderly farmer, a one-legged German civilian, began shooting at them, they dove into a pile of fertilizer. American soldiers soon liberated them. They gave Albert a uniform, and he joined the Americans, doing medic runs as bullets rained down around him. For his service, he was awarded a Purple Heart.

    Comment by eah — August 3, 2015 @ 6:34 pm

  3. As someone cleverer than me said: There’s no business like Shoah business.

    Comment by eah — August 3, 2015 @ 6:09 pm

    • See, it’s that kind of clever word play that I really love about you deniers. No business like Shoah business, Holohoax, Hololies. I had no idea you guys were this clever.

      Comment by HCW — August 3, 2015 @ 8:28 pm

    • See, it’s that kind of clever word play that I like about you deniers. No business like Shoah business, Holohoax, Hololies. I didn’t realize you guys were so amusing.

      Comment by HCW — August 3, 2015 @ 8:30 pm

      • Wow, that was weird. My first comment disappeared so I typed it again only slightly different. Now both of my comments are there. Sorry, don’t know how that happened.

        Comment by HCW — August 3, 2015 @ 8:33 pm

      • “See, it’s that kind of clever word play that I like about you deniers. No business like Shoah business, Holohoax, Hololies. ”

        No deniers’ world play. It was the former Israeli foreign minister Abba Eban who first quipped that ““There’’s no business like Shoah business”.

        Comment by hermie — August 4, 2015 @ 7:36 am

        • Well, I’ll be damned, you’re right!!!!!! Score one for you, Denier. From what I’ve read it was meant as a joke but it’s now being brought up in the light of how Jews themselves view the Holocaust.
          Here’s an article about it:
          http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/news/the-holocaust-industry.html

          Comment by HCW — August 4, 2015 @ 11:07 am

          • “Well, I’ll be damned, you’re right!!!!!! Score one for you, Denier.”

            No harm. Everybody sometimes makes mistakes, Blind Believer.

            Comment by hermie — August 5, 2015 @ 7:36 am

      • If you read my comments carefully, you’ll notice that I do not use terms like Holohoax etc etc. And as was shown, I was only paraphrasing/quoting someone else — a Jew, actually — in my comment above, which I thought not inappropriate, given the estimated take for this event — $45k, see fg’s comment below (people can voluntarily spend their money as they wish — it is none of my business). Re the subject generally, I have no wish to be flip, or to be seen as trivializing the suffering of millions at the hands of the Nazis during WWII — I just want to know the truth re the extermination claims.

        Also, if you are going to refer to me as a ‘denier’, then please capitalize it — ‘Denier’ — as you did when you called hermie a ‘Denier’. Thanks.

        Comment by eah — August 5, 2015 @ 1:39 am

  4. The greek Jews had been deported to Auschwitz in spring and summer 1943 – from March to August – so that guy is over 80 years old and for that reason it was possible for the organizers of that event to let hin say what they want to let hear the audience. But I feel that the organizers of the event themselves do not know to much about Holocaust and so I would explain the mistakes occured with the photoes.We ought only to listen to what a survivor is ready to recall avoiding questioning him. Never put questions in the form “Is it true that ….” As it is painfull for a survivor to recall in public what he lived through so the organizers of such events make him fit for the speech and Holocaust deniers, with their fault finding attitude, enjoy all the errors they can then quote. I wish the organizers of certain events in the deepest hell..

    Comment by o — August 3, 2015 @ 1:44 pm

    • He brought the photographs with him. The organizers of the event were Jewish. No one in the audience questioned him or challenged him.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 3, 2015 @ 2:32 pm

      • Even among USA Jews there is a deep ignorance about the Holocaust-Shoah. That the organizers of that event are Jewish does not matter here; I repeat to wish them in the deepest hell.
        When speacking with an Auschwitz survivor – even with relatives of mine – I listened what he/she had been ready to tell and avoided asking questions; in this way I learned so about many facts. I am afraid that the organizers of such events “refresh” memory of such aged persons in order to make audience. And so You and many commentators ob this site have matter for a critical attitude. Good bye. Wolf Murmelstein.

        Comment by o — August 3, 2015 @ 11:04 pm

        • You always have a convenient explanation to whitewash the most laughable stories told by old Holofraudsters, don’t you hoe?

          Comment by hermie — August 4, 2015 @ 7:41 am

          • Herr Hermie! I am not whitewashing Mr Albert Rosa, rather I think that survivors of his sort are those who You prefer. in order to be able to make negationist remarks. Clearly I wish the organizers of the event of Mr. Albert Rosa performance in the deepest hell. So the organzers as Mr Rosa seem to ignore that when in face of an SS a prisonier had to stay at the three step distance. I am afraid You too ignore this rule. .Wolf.

            Comment by o — August 4, 2015 @ 9:56 am

            • There are good liars and bad liars. C’est la vie…

              Comment by hermie — August 5, 2015 @ 7:37 am

          • survivors of his sort

            Wolf, the trouble is…there is hardly any other kind of “survivor”.

            Comment by eah — August 5, 2015 @ 5:41 am

  5. I wonder if his daughter was a survivor, too, and of what. I might have enjoyed a night in a concentration camp with her. Maybe he has, or in a hotel or two, anyway.

    Fortunately, our own David Irving is also notably accompanied by winsome travel companions. He does not pass them off as historians, nor as his daughters, of which he has a number of REAL ones.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — August 3, 2015 @ 12:49 pm

    • I doubt you would have enjoyed a night in a concentration camp, regardless of the company. The beatings, the food, overcrowding, threat of epidemics, I doubt a good time was had by anybody.

      Comment by HCW — August 3, 2015 @ 1:43 pm

      • The phrase “A good time was had by all” is a very old expression, which was used in small town newspapers in America long ago. I was referring to the audience when I said that a good time was had by all. The audience seemed to be happy with his presentation. They didn’t seem to notice all the errors that he made.

        Comment by furtherglory — August 3, 2015 @ 2:40 pm

        • Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I was referring to the comment by Jeff Rucker, not the last sentence in your article.

          Comment by HCW — August 3, 2015 @ 6:38 pm

    • I have seen one of David Irving’s “travel companions.” She is extremely beautiful and she appeared to be very well informed about the Holocaust. I think that the woman who accompanied Albert Rosa was really his daughter.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 3, 2015 @ 2:36 pm

    • His daughter has grey hair, although her hands revealed that she is not old. At first, I thought that this woman was his wife. Then I noticed her hands, which show that she is young. She had a very fashionable hair cut and she was wearing what looked like expensive clothes. She had a nice suntan, which reveals that she probably lives in California or in Florida. Albert has done well as a Holocaust survivor and he is laughing all the way to the bank. I estimate that his talk brought in about $45,000.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 3, 2015 @ 2:46 pm

      • My Father – THE LAST OF THE UNJUST – and myself granted interviews to serious researchers without askinng for or receiving any financial reward but only in order to secure the historical record of events.

        Comment by o — August 3, 2015 @ 11:10 pm

  6. Excellent stuff and a story wonderfully told of what must have been a genuinely moving and emotional evening. This man Rosa sounds like a genuine candidate for jew of the year or JOTY to be short. How I wish I could have shared such sweet and tender moments of his life story. A beacon of the human spirit.

    Comment by Clent — August 3, 2015 @ 11:45 am

    • Rosa exhibited a great deal of charm, even though he spoke with such a heavy accent that I don’t think many people in the audience understood a word he said. Several times, he said something in Yiddish and everyone laughed. He demonstrated that he could speak 13 languages by saying one word in each of these languages. Finally he said this word in English, but I could not understand it because of his heavy accent. It was all Greek to me.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 3, 2015 @ 11:55 am


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