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August 12, 2015

How a nice Jewish girl was taken advantage of by a hateful Nazi

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 10:54 am
A nice Jewish girl was taken advantage of by this hateful SS man

A nice Jewish girl was taken advantage of by this hateful SS man at the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp

This quote is from a news story, about a nice Jewish girl named Helena Citronova, which you can read in full here:

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There [in Auswchwitz-Birkenau] she met [Franz] Wunsch in 1942. Their relationship was portrayed by the American PBS network in a programme about the death camp in which at least 1.2 million people were liquidated. [the official count is 1.1 million people, including 900,000 Jews]

‘The relationship between SS man Franz Wunsch and Jewish woman Helena Citronova is certainly one of shock,’ it said.

‘Who could comprehend that, in a place such as Auschwitz, a place full of death, pain and sadism, an emotion as pure as love could be around?

‘Had it not been for the fateful moment when Helena was asked to sing for Wunsch’s birthday, she wouldn’t have survived. She had been sentenced to death earlier that day.’

[Wait a minute!  She had been “sentenced to death, but her death had been delayed so that she could sing for an SS man’s birthday? What a revolting development that was!  The Nazis were the worst — “the worst Jerry, the worst.”]

Wunsch sent her biscuits, passed her notes saying ‘Love – I fell in love with you’. He even saved her sister Rozinka from certain death.

[How did Wunsch save Rozinka? Did he rush into the gas chamber and pull her out just in the nick of time?]

‘When he [Wunsch] came into the [Canada] barracks where I was working, he threw me that note. I destroyed it right there and then, but I did see the word “love” — “I fell in love with you”,’ she said years later in Israel.

‘I thought I’d rather be dead than be involved with an SS man. For a long time afterwards there was just hatred. I couldn’t even look at him.’

Helena Citronova who saved herself from the gas chamber by singing Happy Birthday to an SS man

Helena Citronova who saved herself from the gas chamber by singing Happy Birthday to an SS man

Oh, the Humanity! What the poor Jews had to go through to save themselves from the Nazis!

33 Comments »

  1. Meanwhile in 2015 the former chairman of the HET continues his circus and refuses to attend a court where he is charged with the most disgusting of crimes.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33923041

    Comment by peter — August 14, 2015 @ 4:18 am

    • disgusting of crimes

      Yeah but ‘disgusting crimes’ seem to be generally tolerated in the UK these days — eg Rotherham. Yet you have to be careful what you say on twitter or you’ll get a knock on your door.

      Comment by eah — August 14, 2015 @ 6:00 am

      • Discussing bringing charges against suspected elderly Nazis, Janner told the Jewish Chronicle in 2012: “I don’t care what bloody age they are. These criminals should have been dealt with years ago.”
        Whats sauce for the goose…..

        Comment by peter — August 14, 2015 @ 9:18 am

        • No argument from me about that — he is disgusting.

          Comment by eah — August 14, 2015 @ 11:01 am

  2. This is off the subject,but I think the dinks in Vietnam have been educated by the Jews. This is a museum in Ho Chi Minh city ( aka Saigon). Goes by 2 names. War Remnants Museum and ( this is why I say the Hebs have been “schooling” the slopes) The American War Crimes Museum. You gotta be shittin me. The dinks have this museum set up so they can wag fingers at the Americans and all the illegal shit we pulled. I’ll be the first to admit. I saw some shit when I was in country,but we weren’t the assholes pulling these stunts. From what I’ve read about this place, the Zips make it look like they were angels the whole time. Yeah right. Whatever. They’ve got on the museum website that 70% of all visitors are foreign ( war is over,but I guarantee they’re still spreading BS to who ever will listen. The stupid foreigners probably buy all BS the dinks are selling) . A picture of an American soldier executing a VC with the copy of the U S Constitution right next to. Pictures of body parts all aver hells half acre after a napalm run ( body parts tend to get tossed about after a bombing run). Shit like that. That’s why I said they had to been talking with the Jews . Jews probably told them how spread lies and get everybody in your corner. I’ve never been back to Nam since I left. I’ve thought about it. I just wanted to go find the places we forgot and say a quick prayer for my buddies that never left Nam. I damn sure ain’t going now. I end up visiting the museum. I’d challenge everything about the museum. Then they’d probably lock me up and inform me, ” it is crime to speak out against war. You go to jail now”. Like I said,these idiots got the blueprints from the Jews for this museum. The hens probably told them,anyone speaks against your museum,lock me up.

    Comment by Tim — August 12, 2015 @ 9:34 pm

  3. I gotta question. Since the Jerries hated Jews so bad and thought they were lower than a hogs belly,why would they screw around ( no pun intended)with a Jewish girl? I mean if they were caught,wouldn’t they face ridicule from their peers. Maybe even discipline from their COs. That’s about like saying a klansman messing around with a black girl. Unless you’re Strom Thurmond. Then you can get away with it.

    Comment by Tim — August 12, 2015 @ 6:03 pm

  4. It’s a safe bet that more internees, be they Jew, Catholic, Protestant, Roma (or Gypsy), Communist, trade unionist, or homosexual died by accidentally drowning in the swimming pool at Auschwitz, which existed in the heydays of the camps’ operations and exists today, than in the alleged homicidal “gas chamber” that exists today but did not exist at the time the camps were in operation. What is on display at Auschwitz as the homicidal gas chamber was actually constructed by the Russians (and Polish Communists, perhaps) following the liberation of Auschwitz by the Russians in January of 1945.

    No one at any time, any where has ever provided forensically verifiable documentation of the name of a Jew,Ashkenazi or Sephardic; or a Catholic whether Eastern rite, Roman, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox or Old; of a Protestant of any sect whether, Lutheran, Methodist, Pentecostal, Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah’s Witness, Baptist, Presbyterian, Anglican, Episcopalian, Mennonite; or a Hindu; or a Muslim whether Sunni or Shi’a; or a Communist whether Bolshevik, Bolshevik, Leninist, Stalinist, Trotskyite; or a Socialist; or a Trade Unionist; or a homosexual of either gender executed in a homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz I, Auschwitz Birkenau, Auschwitz Monowitz, or at Majdanek, or at Chelmno, or at Bełzec, or at Sobibor, or at Treblinka. To repeat not one forensically verifiable documented name of a homicidal gas chamber victim has ever been provided.

    Here’s another even safer bet… if there were such documentation it’s as sure a bet as betting on the only horse in a one horse race ‒ it would have been provided by the Exterminationists.

    Moreover, the death records for Auschwitz suggest that more Catholics died at Auschwitz than did Jews. As one of the most, if not the most, Catholic countries in Europe, that should not come as a surprise.

    Comment by shafarnullifidian — August 12, 2015 @ 2:03 pm

    • Funny you should mention the swimming pool at Auschwitz. I wrote about it on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/AuschwitzPool.html

      Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2015 @ 2:18 pm

    • more Catholics died at Auschwitz than did Jews

      Odd you should mention that. In another context, I recently posted this Wikipedia link: Persecution of black people in Nazi Germany

      And there it says: While Black people in Nazi Germany were never subject to mass extermination as in the cases of Jews, Poles and Romani,…

      Which, as far as I can remember, is the first time I’ve seen it claimed that “Poles”, presumably mostly Catholic, were ‘subject to mass extermination’ by the Nazis.

      Comment by eah — August 12, 2015 @ 9:38 pm

      • I remember reading where Joe Lewis whipped Max Schmellings ass. That put a weed up uncle Adolphs ass big time. Hitler threw his ass into the airborne division.

        Comment by Tim — August 12, 2015 @ 10:32 pm

      • The first time you heard it? I’ve brought it up before. Here’s more information:
        :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_ethnic_Poles
        I’ve also talked about Nazi mistreatment of Soviet POWs, here’s more information:
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_Soviet_POWs
        During our last conversation I brought up Nazi crimes against the mentally and physically disabled, here’s more information:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4
        Hope this helps.

        Comment by P.O. Truth — August 13, 2015 @ 6:16 am

        • Out of respect I’ve avoided any Jewish sources. I hope you a appreciate that.

          Comment by P.O. Truth — August 13, 2015 @ 6:19 am

          • Out of respect I ve avoided any Jewish sources…..Hahahahhahhahahahhasbara !
            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

            Comment by peter — August 13, 2015 @ 11:50 am

            • There’s that hasbara thing again.
              I’m honestly starting to think the state of Isreal owes me a salary.
              Maybe I should apply, they probably pay really well.

              Comment by HCW — August 15, 2015 @ 3:11 pm

              • Why not. They send their fighter jocks over here. United States Air Force trains them in aerial combat tactics . Ten bucks says we the U S taxpayers are footing the bill for that.

                Comment by tim — August 15, 2015 @ 4:24 pm

        • Helps with what? When have I expressed interest in, or doubt about, or worse gainsaid or defended, “Nazi crimes against the mentally and physically disabled”? I know the Nazis did such things — eg Aktion T4 is well known. On what scale this happened is the only question.

          Sorry, but I don’t think the Nazis had a policy of ‘exterminating’ Poles in the same way it is discussed vis-a-vis Jews. I have never heard of such a thing. That’s not to deny that Poles were treated harshly/criminally in the Generalgouvernement — this is the reason Hans Frank was hanged at Nürnberg. But there was eg no program to ‘exterminate’ Poles in gas chambers.

          As opposed to, say, the Russians, who did deliberately murder, en masse, Polish officers and members of the Polish intelligentsia (eg Katyn).

          And if expulsion (mentioned at one of your links) is a crime, then Germans were victims of that as well after the war. In ways just as cruel as any practiced by the Nazis.

          Lastly: the Soviets were just as brutal in their mistreatment of German POWs: …doch mehr als zwei Millionen deutsche Kriegsgefangene waren in Russland umgekommen. More than 2m German POWs died in Soviet custody.

          Comment by eah — August 13, 2015 @ 8:13 am

          • Juxtapose the Ruskies and Krauts. The Krauts are gonna look like angels compared to the Reds. Hell. Genghis Khan looks like a Boy Scout compared to the Reds. They always have and always will be savages. Let’s not forget how the Reds had a wholesale rape/murder gig going on when they rolled into Berlin. F**ckin savages,that’s all they are. We should’ve eradicated them when we had the chance

            Comment by Tim — August 13, 2015 @ 8:57 am

            • “Juxtapose the Ruskies and Krauts. The Krauts are gonna look like angels compared to the Reds.”

              Even more telling and interesting. Juxtapose the Ruskies and the Anglo-Americans (during WW2 or through their entire history) and you’ll have a very hard time trying to know who are/were the most evil. Hearing Anglo-Americans talk about evilness amounts to hearing gays talk about morality. A good laugh every time…

              Comment by hermie — August 18, 2015 @ 11:30 pm

              • You gotta give specifics. Talk about General George Armstrong Custer? Yeah . Town in South Dakota named after him. Nothing like naming a place after a mass murderer. You wanna use slavery as an issue? We were Johnny come latelies on that one. The first slaves we got in America were by way of Dutch Slavers. They didn’t have money,so they traded slaves for supplies. We were far from being the ones who come up with slavery. Want to bring up the Klan? They started at Dartmouth ( that’s a Yankee college) . It was a fraternity prank something like that. The “racist” had 2 births. Pulaski,Tennessee and Stone Mountain Georgia. Either way you look at em,the Klan are inbred hicks. At the same time we have the Black Panthers and Elijah Mohamed and his goons at the NOI. Want violent people? There you go. If you want to speak of our antics during wartime, I’ll agree we’ve pulled some shitty stunts. I’ve said before,enough guilt to go around for everyone. The ruskies pull this shit on a wholesale level. Ike may very well have been a great commander,but he either didn’t give a shit or was too stupid to know the difference. What the hell did he think would happen when the Reds rolled into Berlin ? They were going to have tea and cake with the krauts. No. The reds are savage animals period. We ain’t got shit on them.

                Comment by Tim — August 20, 2015 @ 9:28 am

                • I was talking about the Anglo-American mass murderers and mass rapists of WW2. But I guess I could also have talked about millions of other things throughout Anglo-American history in general.

                  Comment by hermie — August 21, 2015 @ 8:41 am

                • Yeah. We’d still have a ways to go before pulling off tape and murder on a wholesale level like the ruskies. There’s enough guilt to go around for everyone. Like the adage goes,”truth is the first casualty of war”. Just like in Southeast Asia . They made it sound like we were consistently raping women and little girls. I can’t speak to that. I never saw it happen. I saw a few illegal killings. Not rape. That’s mans whole problem. We think we’re masters of the universe. We think because we have “logic”,it enables us to sit on top the shit pile. Wild animals don’t have logic. When they kill,it’s for food,territory,mating rights etc. With that being said ,you have to ask where we sit on the food chain. People go to the beach. Shark attacks happen. Let’s go kill the shark so people can swim in the ocean. There’s the part where we’re just too damn stupid to put 2 and 2 together. You’re in the Sharks territory. Don’t act shocked if you’re attacked. No when shit happens, we try to fool ourselves into believing we’d never do that. When the truth is,we’re all guilty

                  Comment by Tim — August 21, 2015 @ 9:47 am

          • Around 15 years ago, it was possible to see photos, on the Internet, of the “mentally retarded” and “disabled” people who were put to death. These people were photographed before they were killed. These photos cannot be seen anywhere now. We are now led to believe that the Nazis killed perfectly normal people who were mildly retarded or slightly disabled.

            Hartheim Castle, where these so-called handicapped people were killed, now has an exhibit which shows mildly retarded young people who are able to function quite well. Tourists are led to believe that these photographs show what the victims of the Nazis were like. When I visited Hartheim Castle, I was the only American there, and I was asked my opinion of the exhibit. They were stunned when I told them what I think about their exhibits. I told them they should show the old movie that used to be available on the Internet.

            Comment by furtherglory — August 13, 2015 @ 9:44 am

          • I’ve also mentioned Katyn and the way German POW’s were treated. I’ve even mentioned the fact 500,000 German civilians died as a direct result of allied bombing. I just finished Max Hastings book, Armageddon, he actually wrote that 600,000 German civilians died as a result of allied bombing. I’ve talked about the Holdomor, the systematic starvation of approximately 3,000,000 Ukrainians in the early 30’s during Stalin’s drive to force peasants onto collective farms. That number tops out at perhaps 7,000,000 when you include other areas of the Soviet Union, but Stalin was especially murderous in the Ukraine.
            I talk about these things because I’m not a starry eyed idealist regarding the allies. I’m fully aware that Stalin was a functioning sociopath, Churchill was a bombastic windbag and FDR was a liar. I also talk about these things in the interest of fairness.
            As for what the Germans intended for the Poles, you are right. I don’t think there was any policy of exterminating them in gas chambers. They did however plan on killing off Polish elites, the first Einzattsgruppen squads targeted Poles, not Jews, after the invasion of Poland (Operation Tannenberg). The Nazis wanted to deprive the Poles of their leaders in order to stop any resistance in preparation of turning their portion of Poland into a colony. The long term plan was to expel or kill off 75% of Poland’s population with the remainder left as slave labor. This is genocide.

            Comment by HCW — August 13, 2015 @ 11:20 am

            • “The long term plan was to expel or kill off 75% of Poland’s population with the remainder left as slave labor. This is genocide.”

              No, that’s population transfer. Any idea on the way Poland turned her new lands (taken from Germany) into lands really Polish (i.e; populated by Poles only) at the end of WW2? Population transfer…

              Comment by hermie — August 18, 2015 @ 11:37 pm

              • Here is the definition of genocide:http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Genocide
                The definition includes the words a whole or in part. When you kill off the elite, suppress religion, reduce education and plan on either killing or deporting the majority of a population this is considered genocide. It did not happen because Germany lost the war.

                Comment by HCW — August 19, 2015 @ 4:11 pm

                • I already knew Lemkin’s legal concept.

                  International courts slightly modified Lemkin’s definition, otherwise almost everything is a genocide and billions of genocides took place throughout history.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#.22In_part.22

                  Comment by hermie — August 21, 2015 @ 8:34 am

                • Yeah,but nobody wants to acknowledge them. We just pick the ones that suit our needs. I never hear the Mayan Indians or the Montagnards bought up .

                  Comment by Tim — August 21, 2015 @ 9:50 am

  5. The girl wasn’t sentenced to death, one of the women who worked in Canada helped sneak her in. The female Kapo discovered her and was going to send her away when she sang dor the German officer. I remember that from the program and the book. I don’t know where the people who wrote the story got the idea she was sentenced to death.

    Comment by HCW — August 12, 2015 @ 12:31 pm

    • Did she just start singing, when she was discovered in a place where she had not been sent to work, or did he ask her to sing for him? What kind of Holocaust is it when you can just sing for your life?

      Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2015 @ 1:02 pm

      • From what I remember it was his birthday, that’s why she sang for him. He became attracted to her while she was singing.

        Comment by HCW — August 12, 2015 @ 1:38 pm

  6. at least 1.2 million people were liquidated

    I think “at least” is questionable, since these days the site seems to officially claim 1.1m. Also, it ought to be mandatory to add parens to such statements, something like this: ‘at least 1.2 million people were liquidated (far fewer than the 4m claimed for decades after the war)’.

    Comment by eah — August 12, 2015 @ 11:16 am

    • On my blog post, I have the “official” number, which is 1.1 million, including 900,000 Jews. Don’t forget that there were others, besides Jews, who were gassed. Don’t forget the Gypsies Roma.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2015 @ 11:25 am

  7. Kosher love! Yum, yum – EVERY BIT as good as the other kind(s).

    Comment by Jett Rucker — August 12, 2015 @ 11:04 am


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