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August 23, 2015

Mengele had an entourage, according to a surivor who was selected twice for the gas chamber

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 10:07 am
Dr. Josef Mengele is the man on the far left, surrounded by his entourage

Dr. Josef Mengele is the man on the far left; his entourage is on the right

Shown in the 1944 photo above, from left to right, are Dr. Josef Mengele, Richard Baer, Karl Hoecker, and Walter Schmidetski.

Richard Baer, known as the last Commandant of Auschwitz, was the commander of the main camp; his adjutant was Karl Hoecker.

Dr. Josef Mengele was one of 30 SS officers at Auschwitz II, aka Birkenau, who decided who would live and who would die in the gas chambers.

Notice that, in the title of my blog post today, I did not use the term Dr. when writing about Mengele, although he had a medical degree and a PhD, making him a Doctor twice over.  When you send people to the gas chamber, day after day, as Mengele did, you can no longer have the title of Doctor.

Dr. Mengele with Rudolf Hoess and Josef Kramer

Dr. Mengele with Rudolf Hoess and Josef Kramer, photographed at Auschwitz-Birkenau

This morning, I read a news article here, which has this quote about Mengele:

Minia [Jay], 90, recalled how [Dr.] Mengele would be surrounded by an entourage as he picked people to be sent to the crematorium complex, where Zyklon B, a cyanide based pesticide, was used as a weapon of mass murder.

I looked up the meaning of the word entourage, just to be sure that I knew the meaning of the word, and found this definition:

a group of attendants or associates, as of a person of rank or importance:
“The opera singer traveled with an entourage of 20 people.”

The following quote is from the news article, cited above:

Minia Jay says it was a “miracle” she did not die at the hands of the evil SS officer [Mengele], notorious for carrying out deadly experiments on prisoners.

Minia, 90, recalled how Mengele would be surrounded by an entourage as he picked people to be sent to the crematorium complex, where Zyklon B, a cyanide based pesticide, was used as a weapon of mass murder.

“I was sent to the corner of this dark room by the crematorium,” recalled Minia, now a greatgrandmother.

“We were waiting to die but then no transportation arrived from the ghetto so the guards couldn’t be bothered to go through the process for just a few people and I was sent back.”

The second time, she said, “We were selected naked and I’d lost so much weight you could count my ribs. I had tuberculosis so I knew I would be picked.

“Mengele pointed at me and said, ‘You, this way’.

“At that moment I could see I was not going to leave Auschwitz alive but I was still a young girl so I decided to save myself.

“I was watching him like a hawk as he was continuing to select people. When he turned, I turned.

“I could see this woman at the door, stopping people from escaping. If she had seen me I wouldn’t be here today.“I could see that those who had not been selected had been grouped into fives.“A girl in one of the groups spotted me and put four fingers up – they were one short. I don’t know how but I managed to stand with her and then we were all sent to work in Germany.”
Minia remains close friends with the girl, Rela, now 80 and living in Israel.
After being liberated in 1945, Minia and Rela were among 729 young Jewish people offered safe haven in Britain and were sent to the Lake District in a group of 300 children who became known as the “Windermere Boys”.
Here is the full story on Dr. Josef Mengele: he had arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau in early May 1943, just at the time that the second typhus epidemic was starting. Dr. Mengele himself contracted typhus while he was at Birkenau.
Dr. Mengele was nicknamed the “Angel of Death” by the prisoners because he had the face of an angel, yet he callously made selections for the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
He was nice to the children in the camp, yet he allegedly experimented on them as though they were laboratory rats.
Dr. Mengele volunteered to do the selections at Auschwitz-Birkenau, even when it wasn’t his turn, because he wanted to find subjects for his medical research on genetic conditions and hereditary diseases, which he had already begun before the war. He particularly wanted to find twins for the research that he had started before he was posted to Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Dr. Mengele was known by all the prisoners because of his good looks and charm. According to Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, the authors of Mengele, the Complete Story, many of the children in the Birkenau camp “adored Mengele” and called him “Uncle Pepi.” This information came from Vera Alexander, a survivor of Birkenau, who said that Dr. Mengele brought chocolate and the most beautiful clothes for the children, including hair ribbons for the little girls.According to the book written by Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, Dr. Josef Mengele spent 21 months at the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, and during that time, he sent 400,000 prisoners to their deaths in the gas chambers at Birkenau.Allowing for the time that Dr. Mengele could not work when he was sick with malaria and typhus, he selected 20,000 Jews and Gypsies per month to be killed, according to Posner and Ware.
The following quote is from Mengele, the Complete Story:

The memory of this slightly built man, scarcely a hair out of place, his dark green tunic neatly pressed, his face well scrubbed, his Death’s Head SS cap tilted rakishly to one side, remains vivid for those who survived his scrutiny when they arrived at the Auschwitz railhead. Polished boots slightly apart, his thumb resting on his pistol belt, he surveyed his prey with those dead gimlet eyes, Death to the left, life to the right. Four hundred thousands souls — babies, small children, young girls, mothers, fathers, and grandparents — are said to have been casually waved to the lefthand side with a flick of the cane clasped in a gloved hand. Mengele was the chief provider for the gas chambers and their crematoria. He had a look that said ‘I am the power,’ said one survivor. At the time, Mengele was only 32 years old.

A dark green tunic, like the one that Dr. Mengele wore

A dark green tunic, like the one that Dr. Mengele wore

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  1. Actually the Jews went to all those places that you mentioned. like I mentioned in a post somewhere maybe here can’t remember many of Jews change their names and many more were never heard from again especially the ones that went to Russia. Simply put, there were no 6 million Jews who died during this scam, there were no homicidal gas chambers. And there was no plot by the Germans to kill the Jews when they really needed them to do work for them. They could have killed them where they stood why put all that money and time into transporting them hundreds of miles if you’re just going to kill them it makes no sense just burn down the buildings there a living in that would have taken care of them.
    There are approximately 15 million Jews before the war and after the walk is a little more than 15 million Jews so what happened to the six million?
    The holocost is there to extort billions upon billions of dollars out of the countries and go into the politicians pockets so everybody’s happy.
    You should be happy also because the revisionist are saying not as many Jews died you think that would be a good thing.

    Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 9:27 pm

    • Again, you have not provided any evidence for what you are saying. I’ve asked for it repeatedly.

      Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 5:14 am

    • Well, considering that Nazis also murdered gypsies, the mentally and physically ill, Soviet POWs and Poles even without the Jews that’s still a high body count.
      Or are you saying that didn’t happen either?

      Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 6:48 am

      • HCW: “Well, considering that Nazis also murdered gypsies, the mentally and physically ill, Soviet POWs and Poles”

        Being unable to feed and house properly a large number of POWs (much larger than expected)) is not a murder. Especially when the other side refused to even talk about ways to improve the lot of its own captured prisoners, and even ordered their destruction as traitors by all possible means, and when the lot of your own captured soldiers is no better at the hands of your enemies.

        Even orthodox Jewish historians like Denis Peschanski (quoted previously) now deny that the Nazis exterminated the Gypsies and concede that most of the gypsies who died at Auschwitz died because of epidemics. In France (as far as Peschanski is concerned)), where ‘Holocaust denial’ is illegal!!

        The number of non-Jewish Poles who died during the German occupation of Poland (allegedly 3 million) has been vastly inflated by Communists (see “Polish Population Losses during World War Two” By Dr. Otward Müller). The actual losses were probably in the order of one tenth of the figure claimed. The last Communist president of Poland, General Wojciech Jaruzelski, later joked about the Communist games (lies) with population statistics. In an interview for the Russian newspaper Isvestia, he reportedly said: “To this day I still do not understand how, after the end of the War, we had a population of 24 million but at the time of the next census, in 1970, there were suddenly 14 million more Poles. Then this population explosion suddenly ended at 38 million, as though struck by lightning. The population has remained at around 38 million to this day. Apparently there was a powerful aphrodisiac in the land that led to 14 million new Poles, although the food markets in those days had nothing to sell but vinegar… Millions died of starvation in those days.” Humorous guy, that Jaroo. As others said: “There are lies, damned lies and statistics.”

        And one can hardly imagine how pathetic the patients of asylums put to death in Operation T4 were and how miserable their life was in the asylums of the early 20th century. A mercy death indeed. No cynicism in that formula. The case of Gerhard Herbert Kretschmar, the first German euthanized under Hitler, is very illustrative about that. Gerhard Kretschmar was a kid born with very severe disabilities. His parents were so desperate that they wrote a letter to Hitler, asking him to be allowed to kill their child themselves. Moved by their complete distress, Hitler sent his personal doctor (Dr Karl Brandt) to the Kretschmar family with the instruction to put the child to death if he deemed it justified and necessary. Moreover any German over 25 years old remembered the famine caused by the Allies in Central Europe during and after WW1. Most Germans probably had little doubt about the behavior of the same Allies during the new world war and there was no point in giving food to hardly-human creatures such as the T4 ‘victims’ in times so critical.

        Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 1:47 am

        • The T4 program stopped because of protests from GERMANS so apparently they weren’t as understanding as you thought.
          The systematic starvation of Soviet POWs stopped in the Spring of 1942 once the Germans realized they were a valuable source of labor. German war games conducted before the invasion anticipated high numbers of Soviet POWs. Are you saying that the “efficient” Germans couldn’t come up with a plan to feed them? From June 1941 until the Spring of 1942 over 2 million Soviet POWs died….that’s a long
          time and a lot of deaths. I could get what you are saying if the mortality rate had gone down after a couple of months but it didn’t. The starvation of the Soviet POWs was a deliberate action and a war crime that only stopped after the Germans realized that the POWs were a labor asset.

          Comment by HCW — August 27, 2015 @ 5:24 am

          • HCW: “The T4 program stopped because of protests from GERMANS so apparently they weren’t as understanding as you thought.”

            The Germans of that time were Chritstians and Christians have always been sheep listening to their gurus when the latter claimed that even Mother Nature’s biological failures are humans deserving the right to live. The fools…

            And the German armies had other problems at that time than feeding Soviet POWs. Remember something called the terrible winter of 1941? No time or resources for babysitting enemy prisoners in those days.

            Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 7:27 am

            • But, they had an obligation to do so, under the terms of the 1929 Geneva Convention. They didn’t do so because they had no inclination to do so.
              Moreover, when the Germans decided to save the POWs they fed them enough to survive so the POWs could work. They found the resources to save them then.
              It’s nice to see that you aren’t denying the Nazis murdered the handicapped, you are following their twisted logic. So, if the Nazis were justified in killing the handicapped, why not the Jews? Aren’t Jews just parasites, sucking the life out of every society they infest? After all, doesn’t that solve the problem forever? Just think, a Jew free Europe….forever. Isn’t that paradise? You’ve said you aren’t American so I’m assuming you are European. Was that not a worthy goal for the Nazis to pursue? No more Jews, no more Communists. In fact, Jews are worse than the handicapped, the handicapped were born that way so it’s really not their fault. Jews have a choice. They don’t have to act like Jews but they can’t help it it’s in their blood.

              Comment by HCW — August 27, 2015 @ 8:16 am

              • HCW: “But, they had an obligation to do so, under the terms of the 1929 Geneva Convention. They didn’t do so because they had no inclination to do so. Moreover, when the Germans decided to save the POWs they fed them enough to survive so the POWs could work. They found the resources to save them then.”

                Their own soldiers not dying anymore in Russian winter freed their hands for other tasks and improved the lot of Soviet POWs.

                And where was the Geneva Convention for German POWs in Soviet and Allied hands (Oh, I was forgetting. They were not POWs but “Disarmed Enemy Forces” at the hands of “The Terrible Swedish Jew”)?

                HCW: “So, if the Nazis were justified in killing the handicapped, why not the Jews? Aren’t Jews just parasites, sucking the life out of every society they infest? After all, doesn’t that solve the problem forever?”

                You can achieve the same result with a territorial eviction of all the Jews in Europe. Hitler believed in a German victory to the very end. So he didn’t need to move from his “unalterable decision”.

                “… at the end of this war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was an unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem…” – Memo by Martin Franz Julius Luther, August 21, 1942.

                Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 7:54 pm

                • The dying started in the summer long before the German assault stalled out in the fall and winter of 1941-1942.
                  The action you described, changing the status of German POWs happened 4 years later. Before then the Western Allies abided by the Geneva Convention. After the invasion of Germany when the allies found the camps they were less inclined to be kind…though I will concede that they misinterpreted some of the things they found there. The Soviets were less inclined because of what the Germans did while they were in the Soviet Union. Even then the German POWs never suffered the number of casualties that the Red Army did.
                  You know, I felt we were close to a breakthrough. You admit that the Jews murdered the handicapped. Why can’t you take the next step? Obviously someone who describes Jews as kikes, ghetto scum and wants to be paid in Jewish scalps wouldn’t have a problem with the Nazis bumping off 5-6 million of them.

                  Comment by HCW — August 27, 2015 @ 8:11 pm

                • HCW: “The dying started in the summer long before the German assault stalled out in the fall and winter of 1941-1942.”

                  How many? Source of that?

                  HCW: “The action you described, changing the status of German POWs happened 4 years later. Before then the Western Allies abided by the Geneva Convention.”

                  And what about the Soviets? Stuck to the Geneva concention for German POWs too?

                  HCW: “After the invasion of Germany when the allies found the camps they were less inclined to be kind…though I will concede that they misinterpreted some of the things they found there.”

                  They were helped a lot in misinterpreting what they saw there. The increasing Allied bombings on Germany were like a full scale application of the Minnesota starvation experiment. I can’t believe that any Allied leader expected anything else but terrible scenes of complete desolation in the prisons and labor camps of a country they had bombed more and more during the previous years. The fake amazement of Eisenhower at Orhdruf always makes me smile. Quite bad acting performance.

                  HCW: ” The Soviets were less inclined because of what the Germans did while they were in the Soviet Union.”

                  Always willing to find convenient excuses for Judeocracies, don’t you?

                  HCW: “Even then the German POWs never suffered the number of casualties that the Red Army did.”

                  Are you joking? 5.5% of the German soldiers captured at Stalingrad ever came back to Germany.

                  HCW: “You admit that the Jews murdered the handicapped. Why can’t you take the next step?”

                  Because evidence for a systematic mass murder of Jews with the aim of a race extinction is unconvincing. Too patently a fraud for me. Not my fault that Hitler’s alleged giant homicidal gas chambers were a mere recycling of one of the horror lies of the British anti-German propaganda of WW1 and that the Zionists had been constantly whining about an alleged martyrdom of 6 million Jews for decades before WW2.

                  HCW: “Obviously someone who describes Jews as kikes, ghetto scum and wants to be paid in Jewish scalps wouldn’t have a problem with the Nazis bumping off 5-6 million of them.”

                  Obviously.

                  Comment by hermie — August 28, 2015 @ 9:30 am

                • The Soviets were dying at a rate of 1% per day by September of 1941.
                  http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_prisoners_of_war
                  You mentioned that only 5% of German POWs from Stalingrad lived. This is true. It’s estimated that between 375,000-1,000,000 German POWs died in Soviet hands. That’s a wide number, let’s average that. For the sake of argument we’ll say 400,000 to 1,000,000. That averages out to be 700,000. It’s estimated that there were 2.4 -3.3 million, let’s say 3,000,000. That’s 23%. Out of around 5.8 million Soviet POWs approximately 3.3 million died, around 58%. So, while both sides treated POWs terribly by percentage more Soviet POWs died than Germans.
                  The Red Cross offered to feed Soviet POWs in 1941, Hitler refused.

                  Here’s more information about the treatment:
                  http://www.historynet.com/soviet-prisoners-of-war-forgotten-nazi-victims-of-world-war-ii.htm

                  Comment by HCW — August 29, 2015 @ 4:40 pm

                • Funny to see how much weight you give to any Soviet assertion convenient to your views. Also funny to see that the Soviets became compulsive liars from the very day when the Cold War started. Prior to that day, all their crazy and quite ludicrous allegations were just ‘reports’ and ‘statistics’. History is really the most biased storytelling ever heard…

                  Comment by hermie — August 31, 2015 @ 7:04 am

  2. Jett Rucker, I think you’re right about the green SS uniform. Actually, it turns out that after 1939, the BLACK SS uniform was easily spotted and targeted by snipers, so they changed to the green-gray like the army for better cloaking. Apparently, concentration camp guards and bureaucrats quite some distance from the front lines wore the green-gray.

    Comment by Diane King — August 24, 2015 @ 4:23 pm

  3. Are you kidding me thats the question that you asked me why that door had a peephole. First of all is that even an original door? Could that door have been a door from a bomb shelter wouldn’t that seem more reasonable you think that they kept the same doors with all these buildings in the same spot that they were originally for That door with the peep hole I saw in the Auschwitz crema 1 building also which was the bomb shelter. Wouldn’t it see more reasonable for the door with the peep hole to be used in a bomb shelter. Still looking for that homicidal gas chamber gee I wonder where it could be with all those thousands of pictures out there that the Germans took I guess they must have missed that one and you give me a door with people on it and that’s your only complaint that I had a peephole like that was important. Just for the record the door I mention that was in touch with head of people also and guess what the people look into a wall that must have been a great thing to watch a wall. So obviously these doors were not the original doors in those buildings wouldn’t you say but then again you have all the answers. You read all the journals you read all the information that’s why you’re reading is the same old regurgitated garbage that they been saying for years with no proof they show you a picture and they expect you to believe it and you believe it hard to believe isn’t it.

    Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 4:02 pm

    • Jrizoli, I have a few things to say.
      First, a reminder. Commas and periods are your friends. Your credentials list you as a journalist, I’m seriously starting to doubt that.
      Second, yawn.
      Third, you still have not answered my questions.
      If you want me to take you or any denier seriously you need to answer my questions. I’m not going to list them again.

      Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 7:54 pm

      • I use my cell phone to communicate with you here so it’s not the best way of doing this so pardon the inconsistancies with the punctuation now in regards to your questions I’m not going to waste my time with you you haven’t answered my one main question because you can’t you can’t show me a homicidal gas chamber so that defeats your whole argument.
        I spent a lot of time reading looking at videos and dealing with a holocost topic you obviously don’t so you’re just wasting my time.
        I just finish reading the book the Bad War by M S King you might want to read it you might learn something.
        If I had to kick every dog that came after me I wouldn’t make any progress walking.

        Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 8:10 pm

        • The only thing good about the books that M. S. King writes is that they are free with an Amazon Prime account.

          Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 9:27 pm

          • As for reading about the Holocaust….or videos about the Holocaust…..
            I’m a bit of a history buff. I’ve read Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Richard Evans’ Third Reich Trilogy, Timothy Snyder’s The Bloodlands, Europe between Hitler and Stalin, the Court of the Crimson Czar (can’t remember the author but it’s Stalin’s biography), Laurence Rees’ Auschwitz: A New History, Rees’ World War Two Behind Closed Doors, Hitler’s Dark Charisma (Rees), a couple of really good books on WW1, The Storm of War, the Military History of WW2, etc. My favorite channel is American Heroes Channel, which I prefer as the Military Channel.

            The point is, I’m perfectly familiar and comfortable talking about history.
            I did show you a gas chamber, the one at Majdanek. You’ve expressed your disbelief but that doesn’t matter. You asked, I provided. Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant. You still have not answered my questions.

            Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 9:43 pm

          • Free shipping, maybe. MS King books are NOT free. He is straight forward and provides an amazing discourse about Germany! THE BAD WAR is one of the best resources. Another one is THE MYTH OF GERMAN VILLAINY by Benton L. Bradley! And by the way, in the list of books above, NONE OF THESE were mentioned. I too have read my share of the PC-directed/correct books on WWII like William Shirer’s travesty. I’m tired of being lied to, so switched gears.

            Comment by Diane King — August 25, 2015 @ 6:38 am

            • If you have an Amazon Prime account you get one free book a month. I also pay 9.99 and have unlimited e-books as long as they are listed under Prime.
              Well, let’s see. I’ve also read a lot of the so-called Holocaust Handbooks written by deniers. Pure crap. I’ve been to the IHR and CODOH websites. More entertaining. I’ve looked at Storm Front. One of the geniuses on Storm Front actually asked why you would dig in the ground to find a foundation for a building. I guess he didn’t realize that houses, buildings, etc. are built on foundations. Someone who posts here, named son of Europe posted a link to some website whose Anti-Semitic cartoons made me want to vomit.
              So, I have read denier literature. Luckily as someone who does read history I’m immune.

              Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 7:00 am

          • Ihave to pay for them just like everyone else.

            Comment by jrizoli — August 26, 2015 @ 3:54 pm

            • Go to Amazon Prime, get an account. You pay yearly for it. It’s like Netflix, you get movies and free shipping for Amazon. You get the one free book a month. I pay an additional 10.00 a month and get any Prime book included. All of the “Holocaust Handbooks” are included for download. From what I remember most, if not all of M.S. King’s books are included for download.

              Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 4:02 pm

  4. Wow! Someone with some common sense finally times in the conversation.
    Thanks you so much for your honesty and candor. We have to expose the holocost for what it is,… people have to know its a big money making scam.

    Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 3:18 pm

  5. That’s pretty funny all they found were bone fragments in treblinka wow, that really is something bone fragments..LOL
    if the Jews were killed wouldn’t they find bodies and yet you make an issue of these small bone fragments. What type of bone fragments where they ? Tthey claim 800 thousand to 950,000 were kill in treblinka. You’re getting more ridiculous as I discussed this with you.
    There was no homicidal gas chambers you still haven’t showed me one the ones you would show me where not gas chambers they were fumigation chambers for clothing etc… it’s amazing you don’t know the difference. I’m sorry to say I’m getting tired of your ignorance.

    Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 1:29 pm

    • But I’m not getting tired of yours.
      http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pictures+of+bone+fragments+at+sobibor&qpvt=pictures+of+bone+fragments+at+Sobibor&FORM=IGRE
      http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pictures+of+bone+fragments+at+belzec&qpvt=pictures+of+bone+fragments+at+Belzec&FORM=IGRE
      http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pictures+of+bone+fragments+at+treblinka&qpvt=pictures+of+bone+fragments+at+treblinka&FORM=IGRE
      Archeological excavations found the evidence of mass graves containing bodies:
      http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ar/modern/archreview.html
      Archeological excavations at Sobibor found the suspected gas chambers.
      http://m.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/a-993733.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=http://www.bing.com/search?pc=AMAZ&form=AMAZWB&setmkt=en-US&q=excavations+of+mass+graves+at+Sobibor
      And why have all of the victims clothes, shoes, artificial limbs sitting in piles if the Jews were going to get paid and sent off like good little workers? Wouldn’t the amputees need those limbs to be useful?
      Obviously the Jews weren’t going to get their clothes back…..because they were dead.
      http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/RESOURCE/GALLERY/AUSCH1.htm
      And you still haven’t answered my questions. I’m going to go with you don’t know and chalk it up to the usual denier bullshit.

      Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 2:59 pm

      • Rules of evidence. Honestly, showing bone fragments? Could be anyone or anything. Showing some bones or hair or teeth or anything – and even shrunken heads – debunked by experts long ago. This is NOT evidence – fails the LAW of evidence test. And ‘denier bullshit’ — really – the same old holocaust mantra of fabrication without basis of fact!

        Comment by Diane King — August 24, 2015 @ 4:27 pm

        • No, I call it evidence of a crime.
          Feel free to debunk.
          Please do not link me to CODOH, IHR, etc. I’ve visited those sites, they are not convincing. I find it hysterical that deniers call evidence of the Holocaust BS and yet want me to take the evidence they provide as gospel.
          How do I know YOUR sources are not lying or have some political agenda?
          Seems to me Holocaust Denial is a load of Anti-Semitic BS wrapped in sanctimonious clap-trap.
          So please, amuse me.

          Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 8:03 pm

          • Then maybe we have a standoff. Your sources are bogus and you refuse to view ours. So, then I fall back to the common sense aspect – again, the point was not extermination but emigration, again revisited at the Wannsee Conference – to continue the migration of jews, essentially a fifth column against the Germans, OUT OF THE REICH. Makes no sense in a 2-front war to ship said threats 500 miles, where resources were precious to kill them. The Germans were NOT STUPID or inefficient. Unless their objective was to harness labor for the war effort – voila – THAT’s what it was. That’s for starters.

            The issue of trying to kill thousands of people a day in, say Auschwitz, via ‘gassing’ and cremation – the very notion of killing someone with Zyklon B in 20 minutes or less (the claim) is ludicrous. It’s a slow-acting fumigant, takes above 78 degrees to dissolve, and at LEAST 2 hours before it MIGHT kill anything more than lice. (Oh, by the way, lice/typhus was a problem in the camps.)

            And a pile of rubble does not a gas chamber prove! (Sheesh!)

            Comment by Diane King — August 25, 2015 @ 6:46 am

            • But, I’m not refusing to look at your evidence. I’ve gone to denier sources before.
              Ok, I’ll compromise. Please link me to the sources you want and I’ll look at them.
              Common sense? The SS had better things to do while preparing to evacuate Auschwitz than blow up militarily insignificant crematorium. For instance, blowing up the industrial center at Monowitz. Or the administrative building at Auschwitz I. Or the barracks used by the prisoners. All of things I’ve mentioned makes sense to destroy because an invading army can utilize them (which in fact the Soviets did).
              Common sense? In July of 1942 Himmler ordered that the “resettlement” of Polish Jews be completed by the end of 1942. The German military employed ghetto Jews in the manufacture of German war material and protested the “resettlement” of their workers. They wanted to keep the Jews where they were. Himmler insisted and in fact the “resettlement” took place. The SS did keep some of the skilled workers alive in camps but the SS were not good business managers and the German war effort suffered as a result.
              Common sense? Why bother to ship Jews anywhere, better to leave them where they are and force them to work for you. That’s a waste of transport. Germany was also chronically short of labor, even after they stopped trying to starve to death the Soviet POWs and put them to work.
              I’m not even going to address the idea of a fifth column.
              The Germans were not stupid or inefficient? I’m not going to use the word stupid, that’s a bit harsh. We’ll use illogical. I’ve already addressed German efficiency, I’ll address German logic.

              Was it logical to attack the Soviet Union in June of 1941? Admittedly, I’ve gone back and forth on this one. There was logic to it, by defeating the Soviets it left the Germans in control of the continent. The illogical part of it was to do this with Britain still in the fight. After losing the Battle of Britain, there were areas within German reach that were excellent strategic targets, like Malta and North Africa. By taking Malta it cleared the supply lanes to North Africa…and taking North Africa gives access to Middle Eastern oil while denying it to Britain. The loss of Egypt meant the loss of the Suez Canal and the naval base at Alexandria, threatening the whole British Empire. What is forgotten now is that after Tobruk fell in the summer of 1942 Churchill faced a vote of No Confidence in Parliament. This was defeated but imagine this happening in the summer of 1941 after the loss of North Africa. Let’s say Churchill’s government falls and his place is taken by someone willing to negotiate….like an Anthony Eden. I think Hitler would have given generous terms in order to get Britain out of the war and out of Europe. Now the invasion takes place the following year with no British blockade, access to Middle Eastern oil, no British/US bombing campaign and no allied assistance to the Soviets. It’s entirely possible that the invasion succeeds.

              Was it logical to declare war on the United States in December of 1941? No, it was not. Admittedly the U.S. and Germans were in an undeclared war in the Atlantic during the summer of 1941. However, the attack on Pearl Harbor and the subsequent attacks on U.S. and British territory in the Pacific changed the equation. This meant the withdrawal of U.S. naval forces to the Pacific to fight the Japanese….and the Japanese were in no position to assist the German war effort. The Japanese refused to attack Soviet territory because of their non-aggression treaty with the Soviets. Roosevelt simply did not have the votes to get a declaration of war against Germany, Hitler’s declaration solved Roosevelt’s problem. Hitler’s declaration was the epitome of lunacy with the assault on Moscow failing and his troops getting thrown back in the snow.

              Was it logical to try and hold Stalingrad after the Soviets surrounded it, trapping the Sixth Army inside? No it was not. Hitler wanted to hold Stalingrad and Manstein agreed with him for a short period but changed his mind. Hitler was afraid of losing the heavy equipment and territory but there was no way to hold Stalingrad and the heavy equipment was lost anyway. Better to save the men while it was possible to do so. Instead, 90,000 German soldiers went to the POW camps. Only 5,000 returned to Germany.

              Was it logical to pour German troops into North Africa in 1943 after the successful Torch invasion in November of 1942? Not it was not. It would have made more sense to do this in 1940 or 1941 when they could have made the difference. Instead more German soldiers wound up as POWs than the number of soldiers taken prisoner at Stalingrad.

              So much for German logic. Let me know if you need more examples.

              Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 8:51 am

            • The Death Camps had been placed in the Lublina area because it is far away from all towns – Berlin, Warsaw, etc. – where a foreign visitor could appear. The Nazis had been very able to keep secrecy of certain deeds. With the pretext of labor aged people, kids, disabled persons, etc, had been deported. In summer 1942 at Warsaw even the workers of German military factories had been sent to Treblinka; the Wehrmacht comader who dared to express objections had been replaced. These are facts.
              What is lethal for a louse is lethal also for a crowd of human beings herded in a thoroughly closed room; 15 minutes had been sufficient for a mass killing. German technology!

              Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — August 25, 2015 @ 1:05 pm

              • Lublin was a major city in Poland. I wrote about Lublin on my website after my visit there in Sept 1998.
                This quote is from my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Lublin/Lublin01.html
                Begin quote
                Lublin is the easternmost city and the largest city in southeastern Poland; with five universities, it is the intellectual center of Poland. Other cities of note in the area are Zamosc, a former Jewish center to the southeast, and Tarnow, a medieval town to the southwest, which was the site of the Gestapo prison from where the first political prisoners were taken to Auschwitz.

                When World War II started with the Nazi invasion of Poland in September 1939, Lublin had 122,019 inhabitants, of which 37,830 were Jewish. There were more than a hundred Synagogues in the city and Lublin was one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and scholarship in Europe.

                Beginning in the 1790ies, Lublin became an important center for Hasidic Jews. Since the end of the war, the city has grown to three times its former size, but in 1998 there were only a few elderly Jews living there. According to my tour guide, Lublin is today a center for the Gypsy population in Poland.

                A famous Yeshiva was established in Lublin in 1515 and the city became known as the “Jewish Oxford.” One of the students was Moses Isserles Remu’h, who became a famous scholar in Kazimierz where a Synagogue is named after him; he lived from 1520 to 1572.

                In the 1920ies, a new building was erected for a Yeshiva, using funds collected from Jewish communities around the world. The Yeshiva building, located at ul. Lubartoweska 85, is now used by the Medical Academy, but is open to tour groups who can see the former classrooms of the Yeshiva which are still being used today by medical students. Known as “The School of the Sages of Lublin,” it was the world’s largest Talmudic school.
                End quote

                BTW, Lublin is pronounced Loo-BLEEN, not LUBlin which rhymes with Dublin.

                The city of Lublin is on a major highway that goes into Russia. It is not isolated, as Wolf implied.

                Comment by furtherglory — August 25, 2015 @ 1:21 pm

                • Thank you for the correct pronunciation of Lublin, I’ve mispronounced that for years.

                  Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 3:02 pm

                • Regret misunderstanding due to my bad English. I meant the Lublin area is far away from towns like Berlin, Warsaw, Krakaw where a foreign visitor could happen. So the Lublin area had been chosen for the Death Camps.

                  Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — August 26, 2015 @ 1:27 pm

    • Oh, and riddle me this sparky…….The door at the Majdanek gas chamber….had a peephole. Why would a fumigation chamber need a peephole? To see when all the lice were dead?
      Lice are quite small.
      http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pictures+of+a+louse&qpvt=pictures+of+a+louse&FORM=IGRE
      Zyclon B takes approximately 72 hours to kill lice at a rate of 16,000 ppm. This is a pretty set amount. The Germans used Zyclon B extensively for delousing, they knew how long it took for Zyclon B to fumigate clothes. They wouldn’t need a peephole.

      Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 3:47 pm

      • To attempt to discern reasons for anything, peep holes is almost vanity. And truly, what difference does it make? A whole tissue of lies is woven around a peephole? Well, I’ve heard worse. How about the glass doors in a less-than-secured shower at Auschwitz, alleged to be a gas chamber? Auschwitz could not sustain gassings with THOSE buildings, not according to gas chamber experts.

        Comment by Diane King — August 25, 2015 @ 7:44 am

        • Good point Diane. How about talking to us about that window in the gas chamber I’m sure that was a talking point with all those people in there screaming I guess no one said hey there’s a window in here let’s break it,, wait a sec, there a peephole outside there we don’t want them to see us.
          Welcome to Holocaust Fantasyland 101.

          Comment by jrizoli — August 25, 2015 @ 8:08 am

        • You mean experts, like Fred Leuchter? Please. I also have a history degree, does that mean I could also give a learned opinion on the operation of 50 year old (at the time of his report) German gas chamber?

          Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 8:56 am

          • HCW: “I also have a history degree, does that mean I could also give a learned opinion on the operation of 50 year old (at the time of his report) German gas chamber?”

            Judging from your posts so far, you’re visibly not.

            And if Leuchter was such a fraud, why did the US ministry of justice tasked him with the design and maintenance of execution gas chambers in American jails? Had he messed up with that, executions in Leuchter’s gas chambers could have happened very badly. Such accidents would have been assimilated to a corporal punishment, what is strictly forbidden by US constitution, and America would have been convicted in courts to pay huge sums of money to the families of the inmates executed like that. Does Uncle Sam often take such huge risks?

            And if Leuchter was really incompetent to examine alleged homicidal gas chambers in Poland and Germany, who should have been commissioned to do that job? I’ve often seen Believers try to ridicule Leuchter and his Professional abilities, but I’ve never seen any of them suggest a more competent expert. And if such an expert exists, why didn’t the Zionist lobby and academia send him to Poland in order to demonstrate once and for all the use of homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz and other places? What are they waiting for?

            Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 3:02 am

            • His Wikipedia page states that he improved the design for capital punishment devices. It mentions the electric chair and lethal injection devices, what does that have to do with building a gas chamber?
              Leuchter apparently didn’t know that it takes a lower dose of cyanide to kill humans than lice. Due to their lower metabolism and simpler respiratory systems it takes more cyanide to kill insects than humans. Because of our advanced respiratory systems and higher metabolism humans succumb quicker to poison. You would think an “expert” would know that. Hell, I know that.
              Leuchter does not have an engineering degree, chemistry degree or biology degree. If I was going to investigate 50 year old gas chambers these are the people I’d talk to. Leuchter failed to look at any documentation available about Auschwitz and as far as I know only looked at evidence provided by Zundel, who is hardly unbiased. The firm he took his samples to did not know what the samples were for and so broke up the samples, diluting the cyanide in the brick. The manager of the firm later stated that cyanide forms a thin layer on brick and the method used to test the samples was like testing for paint by examining the wood underneath it.
              The Poles did their own investigation. I’ve pasted it below.
              http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/post-leuchter.report
              Please spare me your arguments about Jewish/Zionists conspiracies, I’ve heard them before. Please spare me your arguments that the Poles faked their results, you don’t have any evidence of this and I am simply not interested. Please spare me any attempts at rehabilitating Mr. Leuchter or crying that he is persecuted or misunderstood. I am simply not interested.

              Comment by HCW — August 27, 2015 @ 7:17 am

              • HCW: “Leuchter apparently didn’t know that it takes a lower dose of cyanide to kill humans than lice. […] You would think an “expert” would know that.”

                An expert who never worked in the field of delousing with cyanide gas doesn’t need to know that. Why should a guy working in the field of execution gas chambers for US jails need to know the amount of cyanide gas needed to kill lice?

                HCW: “The Poles did their own investigation. I’ve pasted it below. http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/post-leuchter.report

                Excluding the most stable cyanide compounds (ferrocyanides) from their study for an investigation done 50 years after the facts is not science.

                Don’t forget the investigation done by the same Poles 4 years earlier.

                http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_Staff.html

                That explains why the ferrocyanides needed to be dropped for their 1994 ‘investigation’…

                And why did [Exterminationist] Richard J. Green go to such great lengths in order to show that cyanide compounds shouldn’t have formed in the walls of homicidal gas chambers if some Poles conclusively found significant amounts of cyanide compounds in the Auschwitz-Birkenau alleged homicidal gas chambers as claimed?

                Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 8:32 pm

                • He is a supposed expert on executions, you would think he’d know how much cyanide it would take to kill a human being.
                  And Hermie…about the rest of what you posted……SNORE.

                  Comment by HCW — August 29, 2015 @ 6:22 am

                • HCW: “He is a supposed expert on executions, you would think he’d know how much cyanide it would take to kill a human being.”

                  He knows it. But he didn’t know the amount of HCN needed to kill lice. Reading disabilities, HCW?

                  HCW: “And Hermie…about the rest of what you posted……SNORE.”

                  Your best and most convincing argument so far…

                  Comment by hermie — August 31, 2015 @ 7:12 am

      • R.I.P. the ludicrous Majdanek homicidal gas chambers…😉

        Comment by hermie — August 29, 2015 @ 12:39 am

        • SNORE.

          Comment by HCW — August 29, 2015 @ 6:22 am

          • You’re really good today…

            Comment by hermie — August 31, 2015 @ 7:13 am

  6. For those with the interest and the time, here she is on youtube, relating what she experienced, via the USC Shoah Foundation (a Steven Spielberg production). Almost unbelievably, the video is > 3.5h long! I wonder if anyone has ever watched the whole thing…

    Comment by eah — August 24, 2015 @ 6:20 am

    • Half the videos that Spielberg taped were not even reliable and ended up on the cutting floor so what does that tell you half of these people were liars and the other half dreamers. A lot of these people just copied stories from each other so they seem like the same story but no one cared because fantasy works better in life than the truth to the gullible goyim.

      Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 6:38 am

      • In reviewing the entire posting above about Dr. Mengele, there are so many errors and assumptions and innuendos. Honestly, where to begin! Entourage? Who says? Four national socialists get together and one is the leader, the other an entourage? WHO SAYS!!! And to assume they are deciding on the death plans? WHO SAYS!!!! Huge leaps of conclusions, and that’s with the first picture. I’m with J. Rizoli – SHOW US AN ACTUAL FUNCTIONING 1942 GAS CHAMBERS from Auschwitz.

        Comment by Diane King — August 24, 2015 @ 2:20 pm

        • No, he asked for a picture of a gas chamber, which I provided. The reason why there are no gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau today is that the Nazis blew them up before evacuating the camp. If they were just delousing chambers or regular crematorium that’s an odd thing to spend time blowing up, don’t you think? I mean, there are much more valuable military targets to destroy than crematorium.
          And you don’t know your history very well. You should have asked for a 1943 gas chamber. In 1942 Auschwitz was using the little Red and White House, improvised gas chambers that worked well enough but nothing to the scale of the “Krema” completed in early 1943.
          The main focus of the Holocaust in 1942 were the Operation Reinhardt Camps, not Auschwitz.

          Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 5:29 am

          • Again, a pile of rubble and an obscure door does not a gas chamber make.

            Comment by Diane King — August 25, 2015 @ 7:44 am

            • But it still begs the question, why bother to blow it up?
              You’re the one who keeps telling me how efficient the Germans were, was it efficient to blow up a crematorium when there were more important structures to blow up in the camp?

              Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 9:39 am

  7. You exterminationist always turn things into racist issues when you can’t answer truthfully. This has NOTHING to do about race.
    You fail to give truthful answers, you parrot the same old garbage in garbage out and then get on me because I expose your lack of intellectual honesty.
    I’m still waiting for a picture of a homicidal gas chamber…..I’m patient…..we “deniers” have been waiting for 75 years.
    Still no pic because there were NO homicidal gas chambers period! …..The Jews were there to work in the camps, they got payed when their reparations came due, and some made some good money. Others made millions, the ones who learned how to capitalize on the lie.
    Like they say there is no business like SHOAH business.

    Comment by jrizoli — August 23, 2015 @ 6:28 pm

    • This one is from Majdanek:
      http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/GALL36R/PTMAJ022.HTM
      This is a picture of a destroyed gas chamber at Auschwitz. Naturally it is not in working condition.

      Picture of the gas chamber door at Auschwitz:

      I know this does not necessarily count as a gas chamber, however before there were stationary gas chambers there were gas vans:

      Please feel free to answer my questions to you. No need to waste your time explaining how these pictures around fakes, I’m not interested. I’ve given you my pictures, now I want explanations of the questions I’ve asked.

      Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 7:37 am

      • You must not know English, I asked you for a real live picture of a homicidal gas chamber that worked not one that they say was used and destroyed.
        So the picture would have to be prior 1944. These pictures that you post mean absolutely nothing. I mean really now, a blown up building….LOL
        What does that prove? These buildings were shown to have no appreciable Zyclon B readings, so whats you point?
        Using these pictures is dishonest at best. Why do you waste my time.

        Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 8:18 am

        • I guess you didn’t click the link for Majdanek.
          You are still not answering the questions I posed to you:
          You claim the pictures of the Sondercommando at Birkenau are fakes, however you did not address why these pictures include women in a forest. Are you claiming that these pictures are also fakes? Where is your proof?
          At the Operation Reinhardt Camps there are bone fragments scattered everywhere. Why would transit camps have bone fragments everywhere?
          What is your proof regarding Jewish immigration? Where did you get the number 300,000 Jewish dead?
          Feel free to answer…or don’t. If you won’t answer then I’ll chalk it up to the usual denier bullshit.

          Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 10:15 am

      • Gas vans have been debunked as even possible sources of execution – diesel or at best, carbon monoxide. Largely for the same reason, Germans don’t transfer millions (alleged) people 500 miles during a 2-front war where oil is at a premium to kill them in camps. The Germans were organized and efficient. The communists killed people where they stood – no fuss, no muss. If they Germans were intent on murdering the Jews, they wouldn’t have shipped them to work camps near industrial centers in Poland to do it! SHEESH! DO THE MATH!

        Comment by Diane King — August 24, 2015 @ 4:31 pm

        • Germans were organized and efficient……can we add logical?
          If the Germans were so organized and efficient, then why did they make such a mess out the attempted ethnic cleansing of Poland in 1939-1940?
          Himmler attempted to “Germanize” Polish territory by expelling Jews and Poles out the areas annexed by Germany and into the General Government and replacing them with Baltic Germans. It turned out to be so disruptive to Poland’s economy that Goering made Himmler stop the expulsions because it was damaging the war effort.
          If the Germans were so organized and efficient, then why was there no consideration given to the possibility that Britain would continue to resist after France fell?
          The Germans had no back up plan in case Britain continued to resist. They spent the Summer of 1940 mucking about while Britain regained its strength.
          If the Germans were so organized and efficient, why did it take them 3 years (1939-1942) to rationalize their war industry?
          It took the death of Fritz Todt and the appointment of Albert Speer to gear the German economy for war.
          Then how do explain the lack of efficiency in having winter clothing available during Operation Barbarossa?
          The fact that Russia gets real freaking cold in the winter time is hardly a state secret. You’d think the organized and efficient Germans would prepare for the possibility that a campaign in Russia might last until winter. Even a 4 month campaign takes them into October.
          It’s amazing the Germans lost the war. And how sad, they didn’t have the myth of being stabbed in the back to fall back on.
          I could go on but frankly this was easy. You walked right into it. Let me know if you need more examples of German “organization” and “efficiency.”

          Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 8:49 pm

        • Oh, and you are wrong that the Communists killed people where they stood. The Polish officers killed at Katyn (and other places) were taken from Poland and killed in the Soviet Union. In fact the Soviets were much better at snatching people and re-settling them than the Germans were.

          Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 9:46 am

      • It has long been conceded that your “gas van” pic is the photo of a van that was used for….the transportation of furniture. Old debunking…

        Keep exhuming the grotesque ‘evidence’ of the Holohoax, HCW. You’re doing a great revisionist job.😉

        Comment by hermie — August 24, 2015 @ 7:00 pm

        • http://www.historiography-project.com/misc/nazigaschambers.php

          Time to learn the facts

          Comment by jrizoli — August 24, 2015 @ 7:53 pm

          • Thank you for the link to the article. Again, not persuasive.
            The delousing chambers described in the article are too small to effectively kill large amounts of people. Even the article states they were of modest size and not efficient in the killing of large amounts of people.
            Why have a mobile gassing facility like the one described in the article when you can have a fixed gas chamber to transport people to? These transports are far easier to schedule.
            As far as incineration, only Birkenau used large incinerators. The Reinhardt Camps used burial as a method of disposal but ran into environmental problems. The corpses were then burned on open air grates. Birkenau also used open air burnings when the crematorium broke down or the amount of bodies exceeded what the crematorium could burn.

            Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 9:19 pm

        • Seems to me no one has any explanations about the questions I asked.
          No one has bothered to explain why there are bone fragments all over the ground at the Reinhardt Camps……
          Or what the Nazis were doing with all of those clothes, glasses, artificial limbs…If they were employing Jews, wouldn’t they need those items to work? Even if you give inmates uniforms they still need their glasses and limbs to work.
          So, where did all of those Jews go? I’ve read they disappeared into the chaos of war, they emigrated, etc. etc. That’s a lot of people to disappear into the chaos of war. Where did they emigrate to? Not to the U.S. or Britain, both countries refused to take them. Not to Palestine, that came after the war. The British refused to allow immigration into Palestine during the war. Not to the Soviet Union, before the German invasion Hitler wanted to send Polish Jews into the Soviet Union and Stalin refused. Not after the invasion, the Germans didn’t want them behind their armies. Not to Madagascar, there was no way to transport them. So, where did they go?

          Comment by HCW — August 24, 2015 @ 9:05 pm

          • HCW: “No one has bothered to explain why there are bone fragments all over the ground at the Reinhardt Camps……”

            All over the ground? I’ve never seen anything else but a few bone fragments here and there. Nothing can be concluded from that without at least a quantification of the bones and ashes there. Even the orthodox narrative says that around 5% of the deported Jews died during transportation. So a few thousands (or even tens of thousands) of dead bodies probably ended up at each Reinhardt camp. No big deal. No evidence of an extermination policy in that? War-linked epidemics and other causes are enough to explain that.

            HCW: “Or what the Nazis were doing with all of those clothes, glasses, artificial limbs…If they were employing Jews, wouldn’t they need those items to work? Even if you give inmates uniforms they still need their glasses and limbs to work.”

            They didn’t need their clothes to work as they were given uniforms. And how many artificial limbs and glasses were found at Auschwitz? Not so many. Again perfectly explainable with a normal death rate caused by epidemics.

            HCW: “Where did they emigrate to? Not to the U.S. or Britain, both countries refused to take them.”

            Some time afyer the end of WW2, such barriers had Fallen and many ‘Holocaust survivors’ migrated to America and British countries.

            HCW: “Not to Palestine, that came after the war.”

            3 short years of wandering and standby in DP camps were not that hard. After that time, the doors of Israel were wide open.

            HCW: “Not to the Soviet Union, before the German invasion Hitler wanted to send Polish Jews into the Soviet Union and Stalin refused.”

            In mid-1943, a Soviet delegate boasted that the Soviet Union had saved 4 million Jews from extermination.

            Anybody claiming in 1945 or 1946 that he was able to trace everybody on a continent with 40 million displaced persons was a mere charlatan…or a Weizmann.😉

            Comment by hermie — August 25, 2015 @ 6:54 am

            • Where do you get 40 million? This says 10-12 million.
              http://www.redlakeimmigration.com/Canada%27s%20Immigration%20Story/1945%20-
              This says 10-15 million:
              http://www.jstor.org/stable/40969176?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
              %201952%20The%20Displaced%20Persons%20Movement.html

              This is a chart regarding Jewish displaced persons:
              http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051898b.htm

              As for the other part about bone fragments, you claimed that someone scattered them on the ground so I need to see your evidence regarding this before I can take you seriously.

              Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 9:18 am

              • HCW: “Where do you get 40 million? This says 10-12 million.”

                That was in a wartime newspaper article of Allied press.

                HCW: “As for the other part about bone fragments, you claimed that someone scattered them on the ground so I need to see your evidence regarding this before I can take you seriously.”

                I didn’t say someone scattered bone fragments on the ground. I said such a thing could have been done easily and many things can happen in 70 years. Pretty sure any crime scene investigator wouldn’t give much credence to a place where millions of people (I’m talking about visitors) went before his own coming.

                Comment by hermie — August 25, 2015 @ 8:51 pm

                • Could have been done?
                  Not convincing.
                  Please link to newspaper so I can see it.

                  Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 4:55 am

                • HCW: “Could have been done? Not convincing.”

                  How surprising!!

                  Crime scenes are restricted areas investigated as soon as possible after the facts. Collecting a few bone fragments in an unrestricted area visited by millions of people, 7 decades after the alleged facts, is no crime scene investigation. That’s gross propaganda. Even a biased mind like yours can grasp that, I suppose.

                  And, as I’ve already said, even if not planted afterwards, a few bone fragments prove nothing without any quantization. Nobody ever doubted that a number of deportees died during transportations. In fact, the absence of any human corpse and/or remains there would be very surprising. No death at all in the transportation of so many people, inside the epidemic area of Europe (Poland, Russia, etc.), during a titanic war and at a time when medicine was quite primitive, would have been a miraculous achievement.

                  HCW: “Please link to newspaper so I can see it.”

                  http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38551163?

                  Comment by hermie — August 26, 2015 @ 11:42 pm

                • Thank you for the newspaper. I believe mine over yours, the article you list was written in 1944. How could anyone know how many DP’s were until the end of the war?
                  Whatever about the bone fragments. We can keep going until the end of time. I came across a picture of skeletons at Treblinka taken in the 1960’s. I was thinking about posting it until I realized that the argument would continue, you’ll tell me that there’s no way to prove it’s authenticity and that someone probably planted it sometime in the last 70 years. Or the Jews planted it to further their nefarious plan on the takeover of the world. Then you’ll probably say something about how great it would be if Hitler had thrown all of the Jews into the incinerators alive but then quickly say the Nazis never did it.
                  Blah, blah, blah, blah.

                  Comment by HCW — August 29, 2015 @ 5:21 pm

                • HCW: “I came across a picture of skeletons at Treblinka taken in the 1960’s. I was thinking about posting it until I realized that the argument would continue, you’ll tell me that there’s no way to prove it’s authenticity and that someone probably planted it sometime in the last 70 years. Or the Jews planted it to further their nefarious plan on the takeover of the world.”

                  I know that picture. Not so many bones in my opinion. By the way, not the bones of over 800,000 skeletons for sure. But there is no way to prove and verify its authenticity anyway, as you’ve unwillingly conceded (otherwise you would certainly have proved its authenticity with reliable evidence). Such a pic could have been taken almost anywhere. And no need to use a reductio ad absurdum in order to ridicule any doubt about such pics. Any thinking man should have similar doubts about such things.

                  Comment by hermie — August 31, 2015 @ 7:24 am

            • Archeological digs at Belzec turned up mass graves. The camps themselves were small with about 600 Jewish workers, 20 Ukrainian guards and maybe 10 SS guards. This way in excess of what a “transit camp” expected mortality rate. Why deliver sick people to a transit camp and risk spreading disease?

              Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 9:51 am

              • I have a section on Belzec on my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Belzec/index.html

                The entire Belzec camp has now been covered over with rocks to prevent anyone from digging there now. I consider this an attempt to prevent Holocaust deniers from digging there and finding out that there are virtually no bodies there because Belsen was a TRANSIT CAMP.

                Comment by furtherglory — August 25, 2015 @ 9:57 am

                • I believe it is a death camp. Why bother to go through so much trouble for a transit camp?
                  I do dislike the fact that only now are archeologists starting to unearth these sites. I respect Jewish funeral rites however these are historical sites that are in dire need of study.

                  Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 3:11 pm

                • HCW: “I believe it is a death camp. Why bother to go through so much trouble for a transit camp?”

                  What trouble?

                  In fact, there was a transit station for raw materials and industrial products at Belzec.

                  1940 New York Times article:

                  “Nine pairs of railway stations on the New German-Russian frontier will hum soon with activity through the reloading of Russian raw materials and German industrial goods from wide to standard gauge freight cars and vice versa, if Nazi expectations are fulfilled.

                  These stations, all in what until last September was Poland, are listed with those on the German side first: Szczepki, Augustow, Prostken-Grajewo, Malkinia-Zaremba, Platerow-Siemiatycze, Terespol-Brest-Litovsk, Chelm-Jagodzin, Belzec-Rawa Ruska, Zurawicz-Przemysl and Nowogrod-Salus.[…]

                  Of the nine projected transfer points along the German-Russian frontier all but one have already been opened to bring minerals, oil and grain to Germany. The ninth – at Chelm-Jagodzin – must wait until a new bridge is built over the Bug River.”

                  Comment by hermie — August 25, 2015 @ 9:29 pm

                • Thank you for the article. I’m aware that Poland had many railways.
                  My point is that the Nazis took a lot of time and effort to destroy a transit station…especially one that essentially took no more transports after December of 1942.
                  I can understand blowing it up and taking all of the materials but destroying the site, plowing it up, planting trees to disguise that it had ever been there….that’s a lot of effort for a transit camp.
                  Yet, for a major concentration camp like Auschwitz the SS only destroyed militarily insignificant crematorium and not Monowitz, the barracks or the administration building.
                  Yes, you’ve already told me that the Germans were afraid of the propaganda value of the crematorium. I think that they would be more concerned about what they Soviets would do rather than what they MIGHT do. People keep telling me how efficient the Germans were. This does not strike me as efficient.
                  Of course I’ve already given multiple examples of German “efficiency.”

                  Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 3:51 pm

                • HCW: “My point is that the Nazis took a lot of time and effort to destroy a transit station…especially one that essentially took no more transports after December of 1942. I can understand blowing it up and taking all of the materials but destroying the site, plowing it up, planting trees to disguise that it had ever been there….that’s a lot of effort for a transit camp.”

                  Evidence of the Nazis plowing those areas and planting trees (or lupines, or cereals, depending on the Soviet story of the day) there? Oh, the Soviet said they did. OK. I see. There’s nothing I can do against sources as unimpeachable as Vassily Grossman and Ilya Ehrenburg.

                  And you forgot the farm allegedly built there and the Ukrainian farmer allegedly settled there. That was a good story too.😉

                  HCW: “Yes, you’ve already told me that the Germans were afraid of the propaganda value of the crematorium. I think that they would be more concerned about what they Soviets would do rather than what they MIGHT do.”

                  You meant “what the Soviet HAD DONE” instead of “what they MIGHT do”, didn’t you? The Majdanek cremation-based atrocity propaganda was no potential threat or science fiction. It was a fact and its harmful consequences could be felt and seen very clearly in Germany.

                  And if the demolition of the crematories at Birkenau proved an alleged Nazi policy of obliteration and secrecy, why did the Soviets first ‘report’ that the alleged gas chambers of Auschwitz were located at Monowitz (Auschwitz III) and even stuck to that version for a while (long enough to have SS Judge Konrad Morgen testify to that at Nuremberg)?

                  Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 12:14 am

              • Only faith can make someone call the Belzec excavation “archeological”.

                http://codoh.com/library/document/975/

                https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30

                “Why deliver sick people to a transit camp and risk spreading disease?”

                Because when one implements large population transfers there are inevitably sick people in the lot. You can’t cry over the epidemics in the ghettoes of WW2 AND expect no sick people will be deported during the liquidation of the same ghettoes. Nonsensical.

                Comment by hermie — August 25, 2015 @ 9:06 pm

                • Why are you linking me to CODOH?
                  I’ve told you, all denier sites are bogus. The people that post there are full of denier lies, their sources are controlled by a shadow government that intends to brainwash us that Jews are the anti-Christ. All of their witnesses are lying, bought off, crazy or on drugs. Fred Leuchter never went to Auschwitz, instead he TOLD us that he went to Auschwitz to fool us that Auschwitz was in fact a summer resort for Jews.
                  You know, that really is cathartic.

                  Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 10:52 am

                • I am sorry, but Fred Leuchter DID go to Auschwitz. He climbed down into one of the gas chambers and examined it, after which he said that it could not have been a gas chamber. Leuchter was the ONLY gas chamber expert in the entire world, so he had to be demonized and declared an idiot. No one claims that Leuchter “never went” there.

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 26, 2015 @ 11:08 am

                • HCW: “Why are you linking me to CODOH?”

                  To give you an opportunity to debate about precise things instead of being reduced to repeat the same empty canards of the orthodox narrative over and over and over like a crazy parrot on LSD.😉

                  Comment by hermie — August 27, 2015 @ 12:27 am

        • I notice you only mention the van, you say nothing else about what I’ve posted.

          Comment by HCW — August 25, 2015 @ 6:44 am

    • Well, if it can be made to have something to do with ‘race’, it is one way to shut down discussion by almost criminalizing the other person, with the judge (in the conversation) deciding what is ‘racist’ or not. Makes the judge sound so righteous instead of the oppressive tyrant he is. As Spock said in INTO THE DARKNESS: “Reverting to name calling (derision) suggests that you are defensive and therefore, find my opinion valid.” Congrats jrizoli!

      Comment by Diane King — August 25, 2015 @ 7:52 am

  8. Who’s going to question little old ladies and old men 90 years old they wouldn’t dare to lie would they?

    Comment by jrizoli — August 23, 2015 @ 12:22 pm

    • Would a Holocaust survivor lie? You can’t be serious. Every story told by these 90 year old survivors is the Gospel truth, and if you disagree, you might be sent to prison for 5 years, depending on where you live.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 23, 2015 @ 12:38 pm

      • I repeat. You ought to listein to what a survivor is ready to recall but avoiding any questioning. Indeed, the form of many questions usually asked to survivors ask for a suggested answer. Often, and not only as Holocaust surivivor concerns, who asks questions in some way “refreshes” the memory of the person interviewed.

        Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — August 23, 2015 @ 1:15 pm

      • but avoiding any questioning

        I think this is disingenuous. For example, watch the Spielberg film ‘The Last Days’ — among others, Irene Zisblatt is in that film. She, along with other ‘survivors’, appears in an interview format — the questions are very simple, and the ‘survivors’ tell their story, in their own way. I did not see any evidence of stress or discomfort (in fact, the opposite). And yet many of those tales were similar to this one — impossible to believe.

        Perhaps ‘liar’ seems a bit harsh. Yet when a person is not telling the truth, they are lying, and it is not unfair to call them a liar. When ‘survivors’ appear totally comfortable in a setting, and then tell these tales, and do so over and over again (which is the case with many of them), then I think it is not out of line to call them liars. That said, I avoid that word myself.

        Comment by eah — August 23, 2015 @ 1:42 pm

      • Simple question Wolf: Do you believe this woman’s story? Do you think she twice (‘miraculously’) avoided being gassed (in the ways described)? Is she confused? Or something else — what?

        Comment by eah — August 23, 2015 @ 1:51 pm

        • You are asking Wolf a question, but you are replying to me. I think that the Jews who were sent to Auschwitz did not know that Zyklon-B gas was being used to disinfect the clothing, not to gas the prisoners. The clothes were disinfected in the building where there was also a shower room.

          I wrote about this on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/why-was-there-a-sauna-at-auschwitz/

          Comment by furtherglory — August 23, 2015 @ 5:02 pm

          • but you are replying to me

            It’s done on purpose, to limit the indentation, which can become too much.

            Comment by eah — August 23, 2015 @ 6:46 pm

  9. Silly tales like this must come from a kind of ‘survivor’s guilt’ — they realize that their survival somewhat undercuts the notion of a “death camp” (perhaps they feel a kind of guilt about that too); so they invent a story — usually a far-fetched, impossible to believe story — to explain why they weren’t sent to the gas chamber, or even how they were, but managed to escape or avoid being gassed — sometimes more than once, as here.

    Of course no one wants to come down too hard on a nice old lady who was probably mistreated by the Nazis. So the stories go largely unquestioned.

    It’s a strange phenomenon.

    Comment by eah — August 23, 2015 @ 12:19 pm

  10. Mengele had not been the only German physician appreciating the opportunity given by the Nazis of performing experiments on helpless prisioniers. That matter should be better studied.
    As to “jrizoli”: This is a sad truth while yoi and your brother should be ashamed for your racist hatred and continous lying.
    .

    Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — August 23, 2015 @ 11:41 am

    • racist hatred

      Wolf, calling someone a racist is a pretty serious matter — I mean, how does someone prove that they are not a racist? It’s not really possible, so the taint usually stays.

      I do not recall if I’ve read all of jrizoli’s comments carefully or not — however, I do not recall any that caused me to think he’s a racist, or anti-Semitic. Could you tell me exactly what he said that to you exemplifies “racist hatred”? Or is it true that for you, anyone who denies the ‘Holocaust’ is automatically guilty of espousing “racist hatred”? As you may recall, you previously said I was an anti-Semite.

      Comment by eah — August 23, 2015 @ 12:04 pm

      • The way jrizoli comments here or on other posts shows hatred. You can say “I do not understand how those things could occure” or “I do not believe that Wolf remmembers exactly the details of how …” or “I am afraid that Wolf after so many years is a bit confused”. So You avoid the hurting expressions like “lier” or so used by jrizoli but express all Your doubts about events Wolf is recalling. Ask for understanding as my English is not the best. Good bye..

        Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — August 23, 2015 @ 1:25 pm

      • “Wolf, calling someone a racist is a pretty serious matter ”

        Perhaps you shouldn’t take Wolfie’s Jewish bullyings & tricks too seriously. For your own sake.

        Comment by hermie — August 25, 2015 @ 6:57 am

      • Exactly, eah! Thank you for challenging this.

        Comment by Diane King — August 25, 2015 @ 7:53 am

        • Additionally, sharing the facts as they have increasingly emerged doesn’t make one a ‘racist’ but a TRUTH teller, a prophet even, unless the listener CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH and has nothing more he can say. Again, I site a quote from INTO THE DARKNESS BY Spock (fictitious person with iron-clad truth comment): “Reverting to name calling (derision) suggests that you are defensive and therefore, find my opinion valid.”

          Comment by Diane King — August 26, 2015 @ 9:05 am

          • Well, I have to give you credit for quoting Spock.

            Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 1:19 pm

        • Diane King: “Exactly, eah! Thank you for challenging this.”

          But a challenge that will unfortunately remain ‘unmet’/’untaken’ once again. Like every time Wolfie is asked to demonstrate his allegations in fact. Just as in Hitler’s very accurate description of the way Jews usually ‘debate’. The more time passes, the more I think Hitler was in fact a first class sociologist and anthropologist…

          Comment by hermie — August 28, 2015 @ 9:45 am

      • “As you may recall, you previously said I was an anti-Semite.”

        …and run away like a Jew asked to work when you requested a proof of his libel.

        Wolf’s reply is very funny. “The way jrizoli comments here or on other posts shows hatred.” Or in other words, “Mr Rizoli is a racist hater because I, the Chief Chosenite of this website, said he is. How dare you ask me to explain my indictments, stupid Goyim?”

        By the way, isn’t that utterly hilarious to be called a racist by someone who really believes he’s part of a Chosen People tasked with leading the world by the alleged Creator of the Universe?

        Comment by hermie — August 25, 2015 @ 11:30 pm

    • Don’t think so. Try again.

      Comment by Diane King — August 24, 2015 @ 4:33 pm

  11. A dark green tunic? On an SS officer? Maybe I just don’t know enough about NS-era uniforms.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — August 23, 2015 @ 10:21 am

    • I have added a photo of a “dark green tunic” as worn by some of the SS men.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 23, 2015 @ 10:39 am

  12. Some more lies for the gullible goyim.
    Mengele was in more places in God everybody knew him all the stories are the same so what does that tell you they are all one big lie.
    Just more of the whole a holohoax fantasy stories.

    Comment by jrizoli — August 23, 2015 @ 10:15 am

    • Dr. Mengele was good looking and charming. The children in the camp loved him. That is why he had to be demonized and turned into a monster. He escaped to South America, and no one bothered to look for him — until after he was dead.

      Comment by furtherglory — August 23, 2015 @ 10:42 am

    • The stories about Mengele get more and more bizarre and fantastic. I say scrap ALL of them and start over. Let’s go to the truth sources this time.

      Comment by Diane King — August 24, 2015 @ 4:14 pm


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