One of the new readers of my blog made a comment in which he claimed that Fred Leuchter never even went to Auschwitz, much less climbed down into a gas chamber.
Fred Leuchter has been demonized and driven out of polite society because he climbed down into a gas chamber, but claimed that it was not a gas chamber.
The guy looks like a rat to begin with. Why would there be a hole big enough for a full grown person to climb down into? I thought the only reason they had any holes in the roof ,was so they could dump the zyklon down through it. It’s gonna be like pissing in the wind. They dump the pellets through the hole,but there’s a big ass hole on the roof,for fresh air. My big question is this. Why didn’t the idiot just walk through the door? Clearly this idiot don’t amount to hill of beans,because you didn’t write much of anything about him.
Comment by Tim — August 26, 2015 @ 1:39 pm
“Why would there be a hole big enough for a full grown person to climb down into?”
Krema II and III are ruins today. The holes used by Leuchter to enter those buildings in ruins are not holes which were there when the camp was operational.
Comment by hermie — August 26, 2015 @ 8:02 pm
Okay. The hole he crawled in through the roof were not there back then . Correct? Is it there because the building itself has deteriorated to that point? If that’s the case,why don’t they either repair or condem the structure all together. I’m still trying to figure why he just didn’t use the ground level door to enter the gas house instead of going in through the roof
Comment by Tim — August 27, 2015 @ 7:27 am
Tim: “The hole he crawled in through the roof were not there back then . Correct? ”
Correct, Tim.
Tim: “Is it there because the building itself has deteriorated to that point?”
Yes. It’s there because those buildings (Krema II and III) were dynamited and the roof of their underground morgues (alleged gas chambers and undressing rooms) collapsed thus breaking at several points.
We’re talking about ruins, Tim. You can see the French revisionist Vincent Reynouard entering those ruins, also through a hole/crack caused by the blast there, at around 13:00 in the video below.
Comment by hermie — August 28, 2015 @ 8:05 am
Nothing for nothing but if someone put TNT to the structure,it seems to me they should go on ahead and drop the building. I don’t see how any building inspector could walk in there and see that the structural integrity has not been compromised . That’s just being careless to leave the building standing. I know what it stands for. I know it’s part of history. Anybody that lets people go into are just being careless . I’m sorry ,but for the safety of others,slap a condemned tag on it. I’m talking about the safety of people here. The way you described it,the building is not in sound shape
Comment by Tim — August 28, 2015 @ 9:52 am
Tim: “That’s just being careless to leave the building standing. I know what it stands for. I know it’s part of history.”
In 2009, [Exterminationist historian] Robert Jan Van Pelt, described as “an architectural historian and a leading expert on Auschwitz”, suggested “the [Auschwitz] museum consider sealing off the Birkenau death camp […] and letting nature take over”. That’s where we are: on one side, so-called ‘deniers’ requesting scientific investigations on site and sometimes even performing such scientific investigations illegally and at their own risk, and on the other side, renowned academic ‘believers’ requesting to let Mother Nature swallow the physical evidence of their claims. Who has something to hide, according to you? Take a minute or two to think about that…
Tim: “Anybody that lets people go into are just being careless .”
Nobody lets people go into. Some revisionists did that at their own risk and without being seen by the administrators of the camp-museum. Such things are strictly forbidden.
Comment by hermie — August 29, 2015 @ 12:15 am
When I visited Birkenau in Sept. 1998, I was the only person there, except for my guide. At that time, nature had taken over, and the place was all grown up in tall grass and weeds. I was told by my guide that I could not get off the road that runs through the camp because there were snakes and bees in the grass.
I was very puzzled about why I was not allowed to look into the windows of the Sauna building, which was strictly off limits. Now I know why. The Sauna was where the clothing of the prisoners was disinfected to prevent disease. The Sauna is proof that the Nazis were trying to keep the prisoners alive, not gas them.
Comment by furtherglory — August 29, 2015 @ 7:37 am
Snakes? I didn’t think they had any. I looked it up. They said the biggest worry is ,”ticks”. They there are 2 venomous ones,but they won’t kill you . They’ll make you sick like a dog. You’ll wish you were dead ,but you won’t die . The 2 worst places I’ve ever been to were ‘Nam and Florida. I never saw one of these in ‘Nam,but I heard people talk of a “two step”. The lil bastard bites you and you take 2 steps,3 if your lucky and drop graveyard dead. The NVA and VC would tie these lil shits to ropes. Hang em from the roof of the tunnel at the entrance sometimes. Once the rat dropped into the tunnel,it was too late. Those lil bastards would see him,before he saw them. My biggest problem in ‘Nam,were the dn leechesBack in Florida we had rattlers,moccasins and coral snakes to worry about. If they bit you,you’d have a chance at survival if you got medical help ASAP. I’m sorry,but compared to those snakes,I’m not gonna lose sleep over the ones in Germany. The ticks on the other hand,id worry about them
Comment by Tim — August 29, 2015 @ 12:42 pm
You can see a photo of Krema II, into which Leuchter climbed, on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Birkenau/RuinsII01.html
It is the third photo on the web page, cited above.
The crematorium, where bodies should have been stored, is where the alleged gas chamber was located. There were two underground rooms in Krema II. One room was allegedly the undressing room and the other room was the gas chamber. Revisionists believe that both rooms were morgues to hold the bodies of prisoners who had died of typhus and other diseases.
The ground level floor was where the ovens were located. The ovens were removed before the Germans abandoned the camp, and the ground level roof collapsed.
The first photo on my web page is a photo of a collapsed roof on one of the alleged gas chamber buildings.
Comment by furtherglory — August 27, 2015 @ 7:48 am
Well Tim, why didn’t “rat” Fred Leuchter just walking through the door. Let me tell you something: even if he had climbed out of the deep middle of the earth, it doesn’t matter. He has proven that the gas chamber-story is a myth.Take a look at gaschamberhoax.com/the-majdanek-gas-chamber-myth/ And that’s what counts. Until this day (2015, when we commemorate that seventy years ago WW II ended), we have just heard one story a one-sided story at that, what tells us that almost 6.000.000 Jews were killed (mainly by gas.) Proof of this, however, must yet be given. Now, the Jews have had the time for seventy years to show this proof but they didn’t. The only proof (at least, if we can call it proof), is from “holocaust survivors” whose witness accounts are often not in agreement with each other. additional, all those stories have just one theme: “I was there, I have all these atrocities experienced.” Besides this, one question wich is often asked by “historians”, is this: “How could it be, that a decent and sincere father of a German family with lovely children suddenly could transform himself into a monster when he was a guard in” (let we say) “auschwitz?’ Can you imagine it? A common and decent man who is working hard, takes care for his family, has a good standing by everyone in his community etc. has changed overnight in a monster of a man, after he became a camp guard? And when WW II finally was over? Well, this man changed (again overnight) in a normal, decent man again! Do you believe it yourself? Tell me, can you transform yourself from a hasbara into a sincere truth-seeker overnight?
Comment by Ton Nuiten — September 3, 2015 @ 12:00 pm
Hey jackass! Number one,look at some of the comments I’ve left on here. You’ll see I’m here trying to find out what’s going on. I’ve said plenty of times before,”I listen to both side”. Which ever side has what I feel to be the best evidence on all the smaller topics of the holocaust,I’ll usually go with it since its been proven ( and no. Evidence from holocaust museum don’t hold water with me. They’re biased). My whole point behind rat boy was this. If that’s a gas house,why the f**k would there be a hole size of the Grand Canyon in the roof? That would defeat the purpose. I’m trying to figure out why the hell he’d wanna go through the roof. I don’t know. Maybe he’s seen one to many Indiana jones movies. I’m pretty sure there’s a rectangular opening somewhere on the structure. It’s called a door,entry way. You pick what you wanna call it. Clearly he don’t understand the concept behind the door. I don’t know. Maybe he’s trying to impress Susie Rotten Crotch. “Hey. Look at me Susie. I’m being Billy Badass. I’m entering the building through the roof”. Why not just use the door? Mother F**k! Who would’ve ever thought about that? You might have found out that Wolfman told me,the hole is there because they tried to dynamite the structure. Now. I’ve seen the story about the scratches on the wall. Even on a good day the human finger nail is only capable of leaving scratch marks on gypsum. Quite simply means if the concrete used to build that gas house is that weak,then the place will come down if the wind blows right. Topic of conversation for anther time. I got to the point to where I didn’t give 2 shits about wether it was a gas house or not. With a hole that damn big,it’s compromised the integrity of the structure. My question became ,”why the hell are people still allowed to enter the structure? I don’t know who the HNIC is at that memorial,but they need to pull their head outta their ass and put a condemned,no entry sign up there before before someone gets hurt. I don’t need to read your articles about wether a building was or wasn’t a gas house. I’ve read articles that talk about how long it takes for Zyklon to vent completely . Ive heard the Jews went in and yanked the stiffs outta there right after the last one croaked. It didn’t jive. They would’ve ended up dead too,because the Zyklon would not have had time to vent. So don’t sit and talk to me about gas houses. I’ve kinda figured out some of those stories are bogus.
Comment by tim — September 3, 2015 @ 1:10 pm
For the record there have been four forensic reports (chemical analyses) of the Auschwitz gas chamber. 1. The Leuchter Reports (1 & 2). 2. The Rudolf Report. 3. The Luftel Report. 4. The Krakow Report which confirmed Leuchter’s findings (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_Staff.html). BTW have you sent a postcard to an jailed Holocaust revisionist today? Why don’t you turn off the TV for a few minutes and do this. It might brighten up an otherwise dismal day for one (or all) of of them.
Wolfgang FRÖHLICH -JVA Stein – Steiner Landstr 4 – A-3504 Kreims-Stein / Wachau – NO – AUSTRIA
Horst MAHLER – Anton Saefkow Allee 22 – D-14772 Brandenburg /Havel – GERMANY
Axel Möller – JVA Bützow – Kühlungsborner Str. 29a – D-18246 Bützow – GERMANY
Gerhard Ittner – JVA St. Georgen – Markgrafenallee 49 – D-95448 Bayreuth – GERMANY
Vincent Reynouard – c/o Siegfried Verbeke -Italiëlei 203b
B-2000 Antwerp – BELGIUM
Sylvia Stolz – Current postal contact info unknown. Email: SylviaStolz@aol.com
Ursula Haverbeck – Current postal contact info unknown. Email address unknown.
Comment by who dares wings — August 26, 2015 @ 1:03 pm
I don’t believe that Holocaust Denial should be a crime. However, if you break the law you can expect to be punished.
Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 1:14 pm
I personally have met Fred and have discussed this with him.
He said he went to a Auschwitz and other camps and investigated the so-called gas chambers there. His report details all of it.
Comment by jrizoli — August 26, 2015 @ 11:38 am
Um, I was joking.
Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 12:01 pm
I think the next time I make a joke I’ll start it out by saying, “two Jews walk into a bar….”
I was playing on the whole did Eli Weisel ever go to Auschwitz deal.
Wow. Didn’t expect to get blogged.
I sincerely apologize to Mr. Leuchter if I offended him or his family by my Leuchter comment. Someone please pass this along to him the next time they see him. I sincerely apologize to any and all of the readers of this blog and the author of this blog by implying that Mr. Leuchter never went to Auschwitz.
This does not change my opinion on Holocaust Denial in any way, I still think it’s full of crap.
Everybody feel better?
Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 12:13 pm
Sorry, I didn’t realize that you were joking. I have written extensively about Elie Wiesel, including this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivor-a7713/
I don’t believe that Elie Wiesel was ever at Auschwitz, or at any other camp. He has made too many mistakes in telling his story.
Comment by furtherglory — August 26, 2015 @ 12:40 pm
I do this with Hermie to mess with him.
I wanted you to know I was joking, I didn’t think anyone would take me seriously.
Comment by HCW — August 26, 2015 @ 1:04 pm
FG. That right there is what I always try to get people to understand. I don’t deny some pretty shitty stuff happened. It’s the facts I question. People like this idiot you’re talking about. You said this person had to quit telling their story,cause they couldn’t keep their facts straight
Comment by Tim — August 26, 2015 @ 1:45 pm
Me too, Jrizoli. Fred Leuchter is a friend of mine. And I’ve gotten to know about his foray into Auschwitz, his findings, and the price he paid in presenting these findings. He’s very diligent, and an expert in executions, particularly gas chambers, of which there are six in the U.S. . He was an expert witness at the Zundel trials in Canada, after having gone to Auschwitz, returning with his samples and findings/conclusions. His reputation is indisputable and impeccable.
Comment by Diane king — August 26, 2015 @ 8:48 pm
Ok, if you say so.
Comment by HCW — August 27, 2015 @ 7:19 am