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September 3, 2015

David Irving answers Jews who ask “Why us?”

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 10:01 am
David Irving, famous Holocaust denier who spent many years in prison

David Irving, famous Holocaust denier who spent many years in prison, but now conducts tours

The following quote is from a news article, which you can read in full here:

“The Jews should ask, Why us? Maybe it’s how they have acted over the thousands of years. Maybe it is all our fault,” Irving tells ‘Post’ [newspaper reporter] from Latvia, where he is touring death camps.

I previously blogged about why the Jews were expelled hundreds of times from many different countries: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/did-hitler-just-want-to-expel-the-jews-from-europe-or-did-he-want-to-kill-them-all/

On the blog post, cited above, I quoted extensively from an essay written by Wolf Murmelstein.

David Irving was trying to make the point that the Jews were not kicked out of virtually every country in the world because they were honest and hard working citizens who never did anyone any harm.

This quote is also from the news article:

David Irving, a convicted British Holocaust denier, is currently leading a nine-day tour of former concentration camps in Latvia and Poland. Irving was jailed in Austria in 2006, but in 2010 began running tours of death camps and World War II sites, to the dismay of many Jewish community groups and Holocaust memorial organizations who have accused him of re-writing history and insulting the memory of Holocaust victims.

This is another quote from the news article:

With anti-Semitism rampant in the UK and Europe, don’t you think tours like these might fuel this?

[David Irving answers] The Jews should ask, Why us? It is not for me to ask that question. Maybe it’s how they have acted over the thousands of years. Maybe it is all our fault. Our Riga tour includes the NKVD  headquarters, and the Skirotawa train station, where Jews also played a role.

21 Comments »

  1. David Irving Tour 2016

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — December 3, 2016 @ 3:25 pm

  2. I don’t understand the reference to the train station. As far as the NKVD thing, is that another worn out reference to Jews being overrepresented in the NKVD and Communism in general? Stalin purged most of the minorities from the NKVD during the Great Purge and replaced them with Russians and Georgians.

    Comment by HCW — September 5, 2015 @ 1:27 pm

  3. Below is an old video of Davind Irving and the “Why Us?” thing.

    (From 2:18)

    Comment by hermie — September 4, 2015 @ 8:20 am

  4. David Irving spent less than one year in jail in Austria, about 8 months I think. Ernst Zundel spent seven years in American, Canadian and German jails. For two of those years he was held without charges under a post 9/11 Canadian threat to national security statute thas has since been struck from the books. Irving, Mark Weber and David Cole-Stein have made changes to their previous conclusions that no Jews were gassed by Germans in WWII. Now they say 1.2 – 2 million were killed (probably by gas) in “Aktion Reinhard” the extermination program named after the Reinhard camp system. So, David Irving can’t really be called a “Holocaust denier” anymore.

    Comment by who dares wings — September 3, 2015 @ 6:46 pm

    • What you’re saying is this guy let them pretty much sell his ass up
      The river. When did his “change of heart”come about? After he pulled time? I figure if he sold out,why would anyone want to listen to him? Clearly he’s just become another punk for the Jews to run. I mean they had him a script to read from. Least that’s how it seems to be.

      Comment by Tim — September 3, 2015 @ 8:57 pm

      • He hasn’t “sold out” and he’s not a “punk”. He is (or was) an incredibly gifted researcher, interviewer, and writer who now in advanced age and health has been made to suffer greatly for his findings and pursuit of truth.
        If he can be faulted for anything, his enormous ego, hubris, and being a bit of a lecher are what come most to mind.

        Comment by Schlageter — September 4, 2015 @ 3:37 am

        • No he sounds like he done sold his ass out. At first he denies the shit happens. Then he gets locked down for it. He comes out and he and his buddies change their tune. Now they’re saying “1 to 1.2 million Jews were gassed there. Make up my mind. The gassing happen or not. He’s a great researcher? Why did he go from denying the shit to saying that a million some odd Jews were actually gassed? That don’t make sense . What a brilliant researcher “before or after” lockdown. One day the holocaust never happened then with the flick of a switch it did happen. I’d have to question his findings . He puts all that research into this shit. Stands by his findings and then one day goes ,”oops. I made a mistake. I was wrong about the shit”. No, he sounds like someone’s bitch. He does a complete 180 from his original stand. He seems no different than these punk ass bitches that run the countries that have the H denial laws. Those idiots were bullied into passing those laws cause they ain’t got the balls to stand up and tell the puppet masters to go f**k themselves

          Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 7:21 am

  5. I don’t think the camps are the place to make statements. I guess if he wanted to he could print books for the tour. As long as it’s based on historical evidence and not his opinion. His tour groups can read the books either before or after the tour. They could juxtapose what they were told on the tour,with what’s printed in the book. After that they can come to their own conclusion without either side interfering

    Comment by Tim — September 3, 2015 @ 11:48 am

  6. Jews were kicked out of countries by their debtors in those countries. With their creditors (the Jews) kicked out, their debtors (the Gentiles) not only didn’t have to pay their debts (nor the interest thereon), but further, got the chance to loot any immovable property (land, houses) the deportees had owned.

    People (or groups) that get kicked out of countries are NOT always guilty of wronging their “hosts.” Even when/if they are, those offenses may not be the only reasons they are kicked out.

    The Japanese-Americans who were incarcerated WITHIN the US and Canada during World War II were similarly looted by opportunists such as are to be found everywhere.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — September 3, 2015 @ 10:21 am

  7. I watched a programme on the BBC the other night where they were discussing the jewish ghetto of, I think, Prague many years ago. Not once did they consider why the jews were hated and lived in a ghetto. They simply presented it as another ‘poor old jews let’s give them loads of sympathy’ routine. Made my blood boil. The jews throughout history have made themselves hated and unwelcome thus when it was possible people have reacted badly to them. Tough shit I say.

    Comment by Clent — September 3, 2015 @ 10:18 am

    • This is a quote from a blog post that I wrote 5 years ago: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/anne-frank-wrote-in-her-diary-we-can-never-be-just-dutch-or-just-english-or-whatever-we-will-always-be-jews-as-well/

      In 1933, when Hitler came to power, the German Jews had everything that a country normally has: They had their own flag, their own anthem, their own language (Yiddish) and their own alphabet (Hebrew), their own jokes, their own music, their own foods, their own history, their own clothing style, their own holidays, their own day of rest (Saturday), even their own clocks which ran backwards because the numbers were in Hebrew. Inside their ghettos, the Jews of Europe followed their own laws.

      Of course, there were assimilated Jews in Germany in 1933, including the Otto Frank family. But there were other German Jews whose loyalty was to their fellow Jews, not to Germany. This was basically what caused the German exportation of the Jews and the Holocaust, after other countries refused to allow them to enter.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 3, 2015 @ 10:35 am

      • Furtherglory! No one of Your above statements is correct. 1. The overhelming part of Jews in Germany spoke and felt as a patriotic German, in WWI there had been 10000 – ten tousand – German Jews dead on battlefield. 2. Only orthodox Jews followed diatary rules and wore in the well known style. 3. Those not loyal to Germany did not care about fellow Jews but to comunism. 4. Referring to Your comment to my article quoted here, in 1934 Schacht – minister of Finance and Commerce accorded Jews emigrating to Palestine to carry GERMAN PRODUCT WORTH NOT MORE THAN RM 20.000 (twenty thousand) as he thought that the Jewish Homeland could become a customer; no export of money had been allowed. 5. As Nisko concerns, Jewish officials and workers had been sent back to Vienna and Brno; only very few survived. In my opinion that had been a farce to show Arab friends the possibilty to send Jews far away from Palestine. In my Father’s opinion the project failed due to the opposition of General Governor Hans Frank.
        Here to I feel that events had to be studied with German precison – Deutsche Gruendlichkeit – as You in USA are used to present things in a too simple way reaching so incorrect conclusions.

        Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — September 3, 2015 @ 1:00 pm

        • Hey Wolfman. I heard that about the Hebs in WW1 . I heard they were patriots. Here’s the one thing that still confuses me. If Uncle Adolph hated the Jews so bad. Why was he able to have them reclassified as Aryan,with just a couple strokes of a pen? I heard he had a lot in his military.

          Comment by Tim — September 3, 2015 @ 1:16 pm

          • The myth of the German – true Aryan – race coming from the North or from Iran or Tibet. A my name is WOLF and not Wolfman.

            Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — September 3, 2015 @ 11:01 pm

            • Ease up wolfman. You know I respect you. Hell. You and the Herminator are two participants on here that I follow the most ( aside from FG). I served with a guy in ‘Nam. Short Jewish fella who was raised in the Bronk. He mentioned his family lost 5 members to the holocaust. Jeff Krulik ( I think that’s how it’s spelled) was his birth name. Told me somewhere along the line people started calling him Wolf. I didn’t know Jeff was his legal name until about 3 months after I’d known him. He got tagged as wolfman by our Sgt . You remind me of him a lot. He was always up for a good debate. It wasn’t about the holocaust. From what I recall the holocaust wasn’t that heated of a topic back then. At least for us it wasn’t . We were just trying to stay alive from one day to the next. Trying to make it out that shitty ass war in one piece . No you remind me of Wolfman with your aggressive attitude. Nickname to be proud of. You still didn’t answer the question as to how uncle Adolph could
              Eliminate evidence of someone being Jewish with the stroke of a pen. One that comes to mind is an admiral of his. He was like 1/2 Jew ,but hitler took care of that with his signature on a piece of paper. He does that,yet in the background he’s bumping Jews off. Don’t make good sense

              Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 6:50 am

              • LUFTWAFFE – Airforce – General Milch had some Jewish ancestors but Hitler closed eyes here. So Milch showed to be an antisemite.

                Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — September 4, 2015 @ 9:32 am

                • So hitler rewrote his genealogy and with his magic wand took away all traces of him having any Jew blood in him at all . He became a patch holding member of the club. With something like that going on,is it possible that some of the people (the lesser known ones) charged and put on trial for war crimes,might have possibly had Jew blood in them that hitler “erased”? Were these just isolated cases? From what I’ve seen there was a lot of Jews in ww1 and there were a lot fighting in ww2. I read something that said there would be part Jews fighting at the front,while their families were sent off to the prison camps. That kinda sounds like Sen. Inouye (Hawaii senator). While he was getting his arm blown off by some Kraut fighting for America,his family got shipped off to Heart Mountain Wyoming along with a bunch of other niponese that were locked down there until the war was over. I don’t know . From where I sit if uncle Adolph was smart,he would’ve given each Jew that was old enough,a rifle. Well towards the he had to use children and old men to do the fighting. I can’t say he would’ve won the war that way,but he would’ve made the opposition rethink their strategy .

                  Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 10:07 am

            • “The myth of the German – true Aryan – race coming from the North”

              Still more evidenced than the myth of Ashkenazi Jews dreaming themselves as “the People of the Book” (Book which is itself a compilation of debunked tales for gullible kids anyway). In 2012, a genetic study by an Israeli Jew (Eran Elhaik – http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/12/14/gbe.evs119) brought new food for the Khazarian theory. The real offspring of “the People of the Book” is seemingly the Palestinian Arabs destroyed and displaced by the Ashkenazi invaders during the last decades and the years to come. The ultra-nationalist branch (i.e. Zionists) of a Turkic consanguineous tribe (i.e. Ashkenazi Jews) using the Book and the Holohoax to destroy and dispossess the real offspring of “the People of the Book”, quite ironical, isn’t it?

              Always funny to see Jewish propagandists write the word Aryan between quotation marks as if no human race could even exist outside high consanguinity…

              Comment by hermie — September 4, 2015 @ 9:05 pm

              • Herr Hermie! Thanks for adressing me to that article as i have many historical based objections on the pure Kazarian hypothesis and will write to the author.

                Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — September 4, 2015 @ 11:40 pm

                • I hope your historical objections don’t come from BS such the Book of Esther or the Bible. Otherwise I’m afraid that Israeli geneticist will very probably kick your ass out.

                  Comment by hermie — September 6, 2015 @ 8:49 am


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