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September 3, 2015

Were the Jews forced to take a shower before they were gassed?

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 4:05 pm
Visitors to Auschwitz are sprayed with mist to help them keep cool

Visitors to Auschwitz are sprayed with mist to help them keep cool (click to enlarge)

Today I read this in a news article, which you can read in full here:

“As a Jew who has lost so many relatives in the Holocaust, they looked like the showers that the Jews were forced to take before entering the gas chambers,” Meir Bulka, 48, told the [Jerusalem] Post .

The Jews were forced to take a shower before entering the gas chamber? This is news to me.  Where was the shower room?

I thought that there were only TWO underground rooms in the Krema II and Krema III gas chambers: the undressing room and the gas chamber.

Gas chamber in Krema I at Auschwitz main camp was only one room

Gas chamber in Krema I at Auschwitz main camp was only one room

The Krema IV gas chamber was only one room, which was disguised as a shower room.  The Krema I gas chamber in the main camp was only one room; the Jews had to undress outside the building, before entering the gas chamber.

The news article continues with this quote:

Piotr Kadlcik, the immediate past president of the Union of Jewish Religious Communities in Poland, …. said this:

“The Germans twisted the concept of shower – a source of cleanness and relief – into the equivalent of pure horror. We shall not follow this path,” he commented. “The unprecedented heat wave during this summer required proper measures. Its a sign of care for the visitors by muse – um staff.”

Colette Avital, the chairwoman of the Center of Organizations of Holocaust Survivors in Israel, said the gesture to sweating tourists was not thought out properly.

“We would expect people who deal with of the Holocaust, especially in a place like Auschwitz, to think before they act and to be more sensitive,” she said

The moral of this story is that there is no pleasing the Jews. There is always something to complain about.  The story of the Holocaust has become like an episode of the Seinfeld show.

37 Comments »

  1. Wolfman great Post your starting to see the light. You can say what you want about the gassings using bug spray fine I don’t buy it but you the right to say it. But here’s the deal, disposing the bodies cremating them is the next bottleneck as you say now try explaining this, cremating a body in 15-20 minutes impossible.
    How about 15 to 20 thousand a day?
    Kurt Gurstein came up with some real wacko figures.

    Comment by jrizoli — September 4, 2015 @ 10:07 pm

    • I’m starting to think you are using drugs. I’m HCW, not Wolf.
      I’m assuming we are still talking about Auschwitz-Birkenau.
      Hoess stated that the muffles could take alternating body amounts of 3 bodies then two and operate on a 24 hour cycle with 4 hours off. Hoess gave an incineration time of 20 minutes but that’s probably too low, 30 minutes is more probable. Keep in mind, this isn’t cremating someone’s dearly departed, this is body disposal.
      So, let’s say 150 bodies per muffle in a 24 hour period. If you have 15 operating muffles that’s 2,250 bodies in a day.
      In a 30 day period that’s 67,500 bodies cremated.
      Krema II and III had 15 muffles a piece, with all of them working that’s 4500 a day, that’s 135,000 a month.
      Krema I had 6 muffles but was closed at the end of July, 1943.
      Krema V came on line in June 1943 with 8 muffles.
      This of course is an optimum. Naturally things break, etc. In 1944 at the height of the deportation of the Hungarian Jews the body flow overwhelmed the crematorium and dead Jews were burned in pits.

      Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 11:35 pm

      • I forgot to give credit. I want to thank the guy at Nizkor, he did the heavy lifting. I followed his lead on this one.

        Comment by HCW — September 6, 2015 @ 12:53 pm

  2. For some reason, I am having difficulty replying to a specific comment. The reply button does not work.

    Comment by furtherglory — September 4, 2015 @ 9:37 am

  3. Poland had turned that site of horror and sorrow in a center for tourism; this is another profitable branch of the Shoah business..
    Clearly saying “take a shower” had been one of the nazi tricks to deceive the victims. What exactly happened will be unknown for ever as dead person cannot state the details.
    Sweating a bit during the visit would offer a good taste of what it had been staying in that places in those times.

    Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — September 3, 2015 @ 10:21 pm

    • Turing Fail

      Comment by thestoker — September 4, 2015 @ 12:06 am

      • What exactly happened will be unknown for ever as dead person cannot state the details.

        Luckily we have many eyewitnesses who did survive — including Sonderkommando members, and Jews who escaped the gas chambers, even more than once.

        Comment by eah — September 4, 2015 @ 1:44 am

  4. I thought you ran a story one time that said the Jews were played falsely. Made to believe they were taking showers. Why are they spritzing the tourist ? I looked it up. It don’t get that hot there. I could understand them doing that if the place was in southeast Texas or south Florida . Factor in the humidity with the summer temps and it’s gonna get damned miserable.

    Comment by Tim — September 3, 2015 @ 5:57 pm

  5. Doesn’t even make sense to have them FORCED to take showers. If time and resources were the issue – why ship them to Poland anyway – start backing up the nonsense! I’m not going to be SENSITIVE when they want us to believe the myth – I want to expose them!

    Comment by Diane King — September 3, 2015 @ 4:29 pm

    • Thats all you Jews do is cry poor me poor me.
      Start taking responsibilities for your lies and get over you time sleeping on a hard pillow in the camps.
      You should be happy you survived as many other not as fortunate as you died outside of the camps.
      And know you make us suffer even more with your crying….

      Comment by jrizoli — September 3, 2015 @ 5:02 pm

      • jrizoli: “Thats all you Jews do is cry poor me poor me.”

        “I hardly exaggerate. Jewish life consists of two elements: Extracting money and protesting.” ~ Top Zionist leader Nahum Goldmann, Ex President of the World Jewish Congress (WJC), in his book “The Jewish Paradox.” athenäum, Frankfurt 1988, p. 77

        Comment by hermie — September 4, 2015 @ 8:32 am

  6. I’m curious I would like to know what they did in the winter. Do you think these people would stand in long lines in freezing cold weather to get into a building with no heat. I don’t think that would happen do you doesn’t seem reasonable to me.
    If I was a Jewish person and told to stand in that line I think I will tell them where to go pretty quickly.
    Kreama 1 which is the picture that is shown there could only take in at the most 100 people if they were to be gassed. if you’re looking at the fact that the room size was around 850 square feet and to gas people efficiently you would need 9 square feet per person so you could not get more than 100 people into the room anyway. They claim 300 up to 700 people were cramed into these rooms which is absolutely impossible even if the Zyklon B did work like they say it couldn’t work with that many people efficiently. Not enough air flow around each person. Also
    Bug spray is not the best thing to gas people with their are other methods that were better and more deadly.

    Comment by jrizoli — September 3, 2015 @ 4:14 pm

    • They probably took a break. The German soccer leagues take a break during the winter — die Winterpause. This probably has its origins in the ‘Holocaust’, when the Germans took a break from gassing Jews.

      Comment by eah — September 4, 2015 @ 2:02 am

      • Your comment is very rude and lacking of any respect for sorrow and human feeling.

        Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — September 4, 2015 @ 2:45 am

        • It was a joke Wolf; granted, perhaps in poor taste. Believe it or not, I have no wish to offend you.

          Comment by eah — September 4, 2015 @ 3:07 am

        • Wolf

          Cry me a river….you’re a troll here. You have no real interest in learning the truth you are here just to be a pain in the ass

          Comment by jrizoli — September 4, 2015 @ 4:55 am

          • Am I also a pain in the ass?
            BTW, in the interest of remaining open minded and fair I downloaded “The Bad War” by MS King. I read the whole thing, starting last Sunday night.
            Seriously, I know we don’t get along but I didn’t realize that you disliked me that much.
            To call that book history is an insult. Plucking random events from history (without very good citations) for your own purposes while ignoring what doesn’t suit you is not history, it’s propaganda. My only consolation is that it is included with my Prime membership so I technically did not pay for it. What really pisses me off is that I was reminded about it because I gave my oldest son his Kindle after it charged and Amazon was advertising it on his screen(!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

            Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 12:47 pm

            • Who are you pissed at? This person or Amazon? I’m just asking because it sounds like you need to take that up with Amazon

              Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 1:38 pm

              • I’m actually more pissed at MS King for writing a piece of garbage that I read. That’s a few hours of my life that I’ll never get back. It only annoys me that Amazon put that book where my son could see it.

                Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 1:57 pm

                • Maybe I should be pissed at myself, I’m old enough to know better.

                  Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 1:59 pm

                • That’s why I’d like to meet the idiot that said,”another year older,another year wiser”. BS! I get older and I still make my share of f**k ups.

                  Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 2:24 pm

                • That’s why I tend to read book reviews anymore. I picked up Oliver Twist. Dickens wrote it. It had to be good. I couldn’t finish reading it. I just didn’t like it. Same thing with “Paradise Lost”. Yawn.

                  Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 2:21 pm

    • And if you told your SS guard where to go you would be pulled out of line and shot.
      The guards pulled people out of line that caused problems, took them elsewhere and shot them. They used small caliber pistols that didn’t make much noise to prevent panics.

      Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 12:38 pm

      • Wolfie you’re really getting quite ridiculous here. You have an excuse for everything you still haven’t show me a picture of a homicidal gas chamber. Everything that we have to say is propaganda but everything you say is true isn’t it. But when you look at the facts and common sense you will see that the things that you were saying about your Holocaust hoax just couldn’t happen but you continue to say these stupid things here presenting your bullshit information about things that could never happen.
        what surprising about dealing with you is you seem like an intelligent man but your reasoning seems insane.
        And to think you’ve gotten along and life believing like you have.
        But you do offer some good entertainment For people like us who can use our powers of reasoning to see when something is a fraud. I think you should start reading some Stephen King books you might appreciate those and you might even believe what he says in those books they have to be true because they made movies out of most of them.

        Comment by jrizoli — September 4, 2015 @ 1:26 pm

        • The Shining. That was badass. Ol Jack Nicholson bust open that bathroom door with that axe. Sticks his head through that hole and says,”here’s Johnny !” That lil kid of theirs was creepy too. Always running around screaming ,”redrum”.

          Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 1:46 pm

          • I agree, great movie.

            Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 1:51 pm

        • Actually, I do enjoy Stephen King. He is quite entertaining. My favorite is Salem’s Lot.
          What, I don’t get brownie points for reading an MS King book?
          Look, I realize that what I am doing here is pointless. For some reason I can’t fathom other than some weird sort of “Heil Hitler Hero Worship” and disgusting Anti-Semetism you, and others like you, look back at the Third Reich with some sort of rose-colored glasses. The truth is, Adolph Hitler (and others like him Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, etc.) did the things he did because to him, the ends justified any means to get there. This included expansion at the expense of others, genocide, the persecution of the Christian churches, etc. Hitler had the power and the people to make all of his dark dreams come true, just like Stalin or Pol Pot. I understand who Hitler was. What saddens me is that you can’t see it. I don’t understand why that is. It’s like admiring Joseph Stalin.

          Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 1:50 pm

          • Pol Pot . Thank you! Someone finally recognized he’s a piece of shit too. As far as salems lot, that was a good book,but they screwed it up when they made a movie. They had ol David Soul playing in it. He was great as “Hutch” on Starsky and Hutch,but he sucked in that movie. They made “Needful Things” into a movie. That was good. They ol Ed Harris and Max Von Sydow in that movie. They did a first rate job. The King movie that I was really disappointed in was Delores Claiborne. Kathy Bates is a helluva an actress,but I couldn’t watch the movie. It was putting me to sleep.

            Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 2:10 pm

            • I know, the two versions of Salem’s Lot I’ve seen have been disappointing. TNT did a version about 10 years ago that was worse than the 70’s version. I’ve never understood why producers and directors don’t just stick closer to the book versions when they adapt them for the TV or movie.
              I’m going by memory but I think Cambodia’s population was around 12 million when Pol Pot took power. I think, and don’t hold me to this because I don’t have the time to look it up but around 3-4 million Cambodians died during Pol Pot’s reign.

              Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 2:18 pm

              • I laugh everytime I think about pol pots dumbass. Hanoi played him like a fiddle. They were on our ass too when I was in country. Soon as we pulled out,their days were numbered. Uncle Ho’s boys felt they became a threat. In the end that got what he deserved. They threw his sorry ass on a pile of old tires and trash. Threw some gas on him and lit a match. I read something about his daughter. Talk about blinders. “My daddy was a good man. He was funny”. Don’t know what she’s smoking,but please give me some. Stalin and hitlers loved ones probably said the same thing. Pol Pot killed his share of Yards. I worked with a couple of them one time. Damn nice loyal people. I never really found out a lot about them until the Internet . I got back from ‘Nam I just wanted to forget about the stupid mistake i made by begging for infantry. Clinton and Bush were far from the best , but they managed to help the Save the Montagnards foundation get a lot of the Yards over here. Either that or they stay there and die. The organization was put together by the 5th Special Forces. Those guys wouldn’t have gotten out alive if it wasn’t for the Yards. Now they’re helping them. Be a lot more names on the wall in DC if it wasn’t for the Yards. That’s why a lot of the times I get a burr up my ass when the Jews start. Hey what happened to them was only thing. Bad,but I’m sick of them acting like they are the only group of people to get f**ked. It’s no wonder people don’t know anything about the Yards or Mayans. Jews want all the spotlight. I’m not trying to be mean,but the Yards and Mayans are human beings too. Time they start getting some airtime

                Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 5:14 pm

        • And I’m not Wolfie I’m HCW. I doubt Wolf would waste his time on “The Bad War” he apparently has more common sense than I do.

          Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 2:06 pm

          • Thank you ! I was a bit stumped trying to figure out how that person thought you were wolfman. I mean if this person paid attention,they’d see the title
            “Dr.” at the beginning of wolfs name.

            Comment by Tim — September 4, 2015 @ 2:14 pm

    • I, uh, what?
      First, Zyclon B is not “bug spray.” You make it sound like “Raid.”
      This is what Raid is made of:
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_(insecticide)
      Zyclon B is made of Hydrogen Cyanide which is very effective in killing humans….and is very effective at killing bugs. It just takes less HCN to kill humans vs. bugs due to our advanced respiratory/circulatory systems along with our higher metabolism.
      You want more people in the room to heat the room up to activate ZB. Also, more people in a room displaces the oxygen in a room. Less oxygen + toxin = they die faster.

      Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 1:32 pm

      • So Wolfiel see how fast of time did it take to kill these hundreds of people.
        They say 15 minutes come on now….
        Are you insane this is absolutely ridiculous for you to believe this you really need to have your head examined.
        ZB takes hours to work 100%.

        Comment by jrizoli — September 4, 2015 @ 5:19 pm

        • Again, I’m HCW.
          ZB takes hours to kill lice, not humans. I’ve said why earlier.

          Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 6:52 pm

          • You must be on coke what are you out of your mind it takes a long time to kill a human being with this product. I don’t know where you’re getting your information from. I already explained to you ZB works over hours not minutes these eyewitnesses said that people in these so called gas chambers were killed in 15 minutes why don’t you see that why aren’t you accepting that fact. Answer me this question how long did it take for the people to died with Z B?

            Comment by jrizoli — September 4, 2015 @ 7:45 pm

            • Now, let’s not start accusing me of using drugs. I do what Nancy Regan tells me to, just say no.

              I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. Humans breath in oxygen. We need this to live. HCN prevents a cell’s ability to process oxygen (my layman’ terms) causing death. 300 PPM is deadly to humans and can kill in 15-20 minutes. I’ve posted a link below. I can’t precisely answer your question because naturally this depends on the space, how many are occupying the space, temp of the room, etc.
              Humans are more susceptible (as are higher forms of animals) to airborne toxins because of our advanced respiratory and circulatory systems. We also have a higher-metabolic rate than insects. Something like cyanide works faster on us as a result. These were empty rooms filled with people. The rooms were air tight so the moment the door shuts oxygen flow ceases and the room starts to heat. Add cyanide and people die quickly. Really, killing is not the issue, the bottlenecks occur afterwards during body disposal.

              http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html

              Comment by HCW — September 4, 2015 @ 9:00 pm


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