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November 13, 2015

What happened to “aged persons” at Theresienstadt?

On my blog post today, I am answering a comment made by Wolf Murmelstein; he wrote the following:

“I remember the Saturday of September 1942 when the Nazis came in Vienna Home of Jewish aged persons enlisting all of them for deportation…”

The implication, in this comment, is that the aged persons were taken to Theresienstadt where they were killed in the gas chambers, which Wolf believes were in existence at Theresienstadt.

Several years ago, I wrote, on my website, about the elderly persons who were sent to Theresienstadt.

The following information is from this page on my website:  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/TheresienstadtGhetto/GhettoTour/Tour09.html

By the time that the Nazis started deporting the Jews from Germany, there were less than 200,000 of them left in the country; all the others had already emigrated to escape the Nazi persecution.

Forty percent of the remaining Jews in Germany were over 60 years old, as the children and young people had been the first to leave. After Austria became part of the Greater German Reich in March 1938, the Jews were forced to emigrate to any country that would take them, and only 15,000 old people were allowed to remain.

All of these elderly Austrian Jews were deported to Theresienstadt where their mortality rate was the highest of all.

Hoenelbe barracks at Theresienstadt

Hohenelbe barracks at Theresienstadt

Between Parkstrasse and Wallstrasse on the east side of the former Theresienstadt ghetto is the Hohenelbe barracks shown in the photograph above.

This was the central hospital for the Jewish inmates in the ghetto. There were public baths, showers and a swimming pool located here. The building included a kitchen which prepared food for the hospital patients.

Behind this building is a large bastion jutting out from the town walls which you can get a glimpse of on the extreme left of the photo above. Located between the walls of the bastion was the Kavalir barracks.

This area served as the processing center for incoming inmates in 1942, and the original reception center was converted into a warehouse where clothing taken from the incoming prisoners was stored.

Later, the Kavalir barracks was used to house the very old prisoners and also prisoners brought to Theresienstadt from the Jewish insane asylums in the Greater German Reich. Some of the insane people were placed in locked cells in the basement where they had to sleep on bare stone floors. In September 1942 Jewish inmates of the Berlin Home for the Blind were put into the Kavalir barracks.

I have a map of Theresienstadt, which shows the location of all the barracks, on this page of my website:  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/TheresienstadtGhetto/GhettoTour/Map.html

87-year-old Ursula Haverbeck convicted of Holocaust denial in Germany

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:35 am
Ursula Haverbeck

Ursula Haverbeck

This quote is from a news article, which you can read in full here:

BERLIN – An 87-year-old German woman who is a prominent neo-Nazi has been convicted of Holocaust denial and sentenced to 10 months in prison.

Bild newspaper reported Friday that Ursula Haverbeck says she will appeal Thursday’s Hamburg state court verdict.

Haverbeck was charged earlier this year after giving an interview outside the trial of former SS Sgt. Oskar Groening claiming Auschwitz wasn’t a death camp.

When she challenged the presiding judge in Hamburg to prove it was, Bild reports that he said he wouldn’t debate someone who “can’t accept any facts,” adding “I also don’t have to prove to you the world is round.”

Groening, who gave lengthy testimony on how the death camp functioned, was convicted of 300,000 counts of accessory to murder for the Jews killed while he was there.

What is wrong with this woman? She is 87 years old, living in Germany, and she doesn’t know that it is as sure that the Auschwitz was a death camp, as it is sure that the earth is round.

Ursula is a harmless old lady, who looks like a nun.  She should be allowed to say whatever she wants.  What’s the harm?

The news article says that Haverbeck claimed that the Auschwitz camp was not a death camp.  Actually, that is correct. Auschwitz (the main camp) was not a death camp; the death camp was Auschwitz-Birkenau.  The Auschwitz main camp had a gas chamber but it was unworkable.

My photo of the Krema I gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

My photo of Krema I gas chamber in Auschwitz camp

You can read about the alleged gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08.html

Ursula should demand that the judge go to the Auschwitz main camp, put some live animals into the gas chamber and gas them with Zyklon-B pellets thrown through the holes on the roof.

The door into the oven room, that is right next to the Auschwitz gas chamber, has been removed so that tourists can enter from the oven room and proceed into the gas chamber.  That opening would have to be closed up, if the alleged gas chamber is tested.

Actually, nothing has to be proved by the prosecution in a German trial of a Holocaust denier.  The Germans have a long word, which I can’t remember, which means that the Holocaust is a fact that does not have to be proved.

ournalists gather outside the courtroom after a verdict in the case of former SS officer Oskar Groening on July 15, 2015 at court in Lueneburg, northern Germany. Photo: AFP PHOTO / TOBIAS SCHWARZ

Journalists gather outside the courtroom after a verdict in the case of former SS officer Oskar Groening on July 15, 2015 at court in Lueneburg, northern Germany. Photo: AFP PHOTO / TOBIAS SCHWARZ

Note that the building in the photo above is the Lueneburg courthouse where the trial of the Bergen-Belsen war criminals was held after World War II.

The moral of this story is the following:  Don’t open your mouth and start denying the Holocaust in front of a courthouse where war criminals have been historically  tried and automatically convicted.  In fact, don’t speak about the Holocaust at all when you are in Germany which is not a free country.