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November 21, 2015

What is the true story of Kristallnacht?

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 1:20 pm
Jews from Baden-Baden who were sent to Dachau after Kristallnacht

Jews from Baden-Baden who were sent to Dachau after Kristallnacht

You can read the Jewish version of the Kristallnacht story at http://www.history.com/topics/kristallnacht

This is my non-Jewish version of the Kristallnacht story:

On the night of November 9th and 10th, known as “Kristallnacht, the windows in all of the Jewish stores were smashed and merchandise was thrown into the street. All of the Synagogues were burned. The name given by the Nazis to this destruction was Kristallnacht or Night of Broken Glass.

In November 1938, there were 10,911 Jews brought to Dachau, after they were taken into “protective custody” during Kristallnacht. Another 20,000 Jews were sent to either the Sachsenhausen camp or to the Buchenwald camp after Kristallnacht.

Most of the Jews arrested after Kristallnacht were released within a few weeks after they promised to make arrangements to leave Germany.

Around 8,000 of the 30,000 Jews, who were taken into “protective custody,” were allowed to enter Great Britain without a visa and thousands more went to Shanghai, where no visa was required.

Altogether, more than 50,000 German Jews found safety in Britain before World War II started, including 10,000 Jewish children, who were sent on Kindertransports.

Walter Loeb, a German Jew, was arrested in Karlsruhe on Nov. 10, 1938 during Kristallnacht; he was 22 years old. According to a news article, he spent a year in the Dachau concentration camp before being released in 1939. He arrived in the United States in 1940, and later served in the U.S. Army

According to a news article by Noah Rosenberg, 19-year-old Werner Kleeman arrived at Dachau concentration camp on November 20, 1938, following his arrest during the Kristallnacht pogrom. In October 2009, almost 71 years later, Kleeman returned to Dachau for the first time. But, on this occasion, he was escorted to the gate by a friend and welcomed by the Dachau museum’s director, Gabriele Hammermann, who had cordially extended an invitation to Kleeman to visit and speak as a “memorial witness.”

In his article, Noah Rosenberg wrote that on Kleeman’s prior visit to Dachau, Kleeman said that he had “Nothing to eat, no clothes to wear, nothing to do but stand on the parade ground 12 to 16 hours a day in cold weather” and worry, as people were “dying all day long.”

Kleeman was released after spend 30 days at Dachau and came to America, courtesy of a distant Midwestern relative. On his return visit to Dachau, Kleeman spoke of his induction into the American Army, which sent him back to war-torn Europe, where he played a hand in Germany’s defeat, ultimately arresting the German officer who had thrown him into Dachau.

Rachel Zimbler’s father, an Austrian Jew in Vienna, who was arrested the day after Kristallnacht, managed to get out of Dachau after only 48 hours. A month later, on Dec. 10, her father put Rachel and her brother on a “kinder transport” which took the children to Holland.

A few of the Jews arrested after Kristallnacht remained in Dachau for as long as 3 years before they were released, as late as 1941, on the condition that they leave Germany immediately, according to Theodor Haas, a Dachau survivor who was among the Jews taken into “protective custody” on November 9, 1938.

 

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  1. “Ultimately arresting the officer that had him tossed into Dachau”. Come on. What would the odds be on that one? Out of all the allied soldiers in country at the time. Out of all the Krauts that were taken as POWs,this fool just happens to arrest the German officer that tossed him in the can. It didn’t say he “helped” arrest him. It made it sound like he played superman and collared his ass all by his lonesome. Is there any physical evidence of him making this arrest? I figure if he in fact arrested the the guy who sent him to lockdown,he’d be making a big to do about it and everybody would want to be photographing it for propaganda purposes.

    Comment by Tim — March 12, 2016 @ 7:36 am

  2. HCW…. once you look at the evidence at the Nuremberg trials and the Franklin Auschwitz trials that I’ve already read I should say from William Steig glitches book you will see that the whole thing is a fraud from beginning to end nothing they say is true and the court accepted all the lies and rejected all the truth and that’s where we are today.
    The shrunken heads the lampshade skin the jew soap and all the other lies Is nothing compared to what happened at these trials and how they cover it up that alone should get someone to jump on our side once they read about it.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 24, 2015 @ 2:24 pm

  3. I wonder if Mr HCW believes that the Nazis made shrunken heads. Such an object was dramatically produced from underneath a towel at the Nuremburg Tribunals, and we’ve been told ever since that if one doesn’t believe in the evidence submitted, and the verdicts produced, at those military tribunals, then you are undoubtedly a holocaust-denying “Hater”, and probably anti-Semitic into the bargain!

    Comment by Talbot — November 24, 2015 @ 11:04 am

    • The shrunken head thing is over used. If I was you I would have brought up the skin lampshades, Jews were killed by steam, electricity, being dunked in a dark fluid, given enough gas so they could get up and stagger to the pits themselves, moveable gas chambers that deposited their victims in the mass graves, etc., etc.

      Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 11:56 am

      • The reason I chose the shrunken head, and not any of the other nonsense, was because all that stuff was not produced at the tribunals. But the shrunken head was introduced as evidence. And, what’s more, it was accepted by the Tribunal and not rejected. Thus, it has to be included as part of the official holocaust narrative – as laid down by law in Germany and other countries. It can’t just be abandoned now, or ignored, because the Revisionists will rightly claim that the holocausters are simply picking and choosing their evidence to shore up their case. In fact, they will say that if the highly publicised shrunken heads are not true, then what else at Nuremburg is false.

        Comment by Talbot — November 24, 2015 @ 12:59 pm

        • How many shrunken heads were introduced into evidence?
          On old newsreels I’ve only seen two.
          Actually I think the lampshades were introduced into evidence and there was some testimony that dealt with steam or electricity.
          From what I remember, again I’m not sure, but the lampshades and heads were attached as evidence from Buchenwald. It dealt with Ilse Koch.
          To be honest, Talbot, I could really care less about shrunken heads or lampshades made of human skin. I look at it like I look at the alleged gas chamber at Dachau. It was there, it didn’t exist, it existed but never used, it was used but only for experimental purposes, whatever. I don’t look at history as some sort of zero sum game, where everything has to fit an exact narrative or everything about it is a lie. History, and frankly life, doesn’t work like that. Not everything can be wrapped up with a neat little bow.
          My complaint with the Nuremberg Trials is that they rushed to start it while investigators were still sifting through mountains of evidence. I think a better option was to wait a year or so before a trial but then I’m not dealing with the same stress that those men were.
          I do know that a trial was a more acceptable solution than shooting the lot out of hand.
          So, no, Talbot, tales of shrunken heads, human lampshades and soap made out Jewish corpses does not phase me. They are superfluous to the history of Nazi atrocities in general and the Holocaust in particular.

          Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 2:02 pm

        • Does German law actually say that one has to believe the entire Holocaust? Does it specifically mention shrunken heads or say anything about the evidence presented at Nuremberg? Or is this an assumption?

          Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 2:18 pm

        • Sorry, the best I could do is Wikipedia.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

          From what I’ve read the law does not specifically mention testimony from Nuremberg, however, I will give the benefit of the doubt and say it could possibly mean the testimony if interpreted that way.

          I don’t think you would get into trouble about expressing doubts about heads or lampshades if you don’t doubt the Holocaust as a whole.

          I would really like it if someone from Germany who knows the legal ramifications to post something here explaining it. The problem is that the Europeans that post here are not exactly unbiased on this issue so I’m not sure I would get a straight answer.

          Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 2:34 pm

          • Someone needs to update the Wikipedia page. Holocaust denial is now against the law in 19 countries.

            Comment by furtherglory — November 24, 2015 @ 3:03 pm

      • I wrote about the skin lampshades on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/IlseKoch.html

        Comment by furtherglory — November 24, 2015 @ 1:00 pm

    • Talbot, ZB is explosive at 56,000ppm.
      ZB is effective as an insecticide at 16,000ppm.
      ZB is lethal to humans at 300ppm.
      As you can see lethal levels for both insects and humans is far below what it would take for ZB to explode.
      For humans (and other vertebrae animals) the higher the level per ppm means that humans (and other vertebrae animals) would die faster.
      I also wanted to point out that Leuchter in fact is not recognized as a gas chamber expert in the US or Canada.
      When Zundel went looking for an expert he chose Leuchter on the basis of a recommendation by one prison warden from Missouri. In fact, as far as I can tell, Leuchter only designed a gas chamber for Missouri but never built the chamber. I have yet to find a gas chamber that Leuchter built, his main focus was electric chairs and lethal injection
      systems.

      Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 9:55 am

      • Well, Blake121666 claims that Zyklon-B is not explosive – but you say it is, at sufficient quantities. Not having studied the chemistry myself, I don’t know whether it is or not. But I would imagine that any kind of manufactured gas in the appropriate quantities, and in the right conditions, could be flammable or explosive.

        But regardless of that, I know that you personally are very scornful and sceptical of Fred Leuchter. But I find him quite credible. Yes, he did make mistakes in his report, but the qualified chemist – Germar Rudolf – corrected many of these errors. And I will say this for Mr Leuchter – he was the very first person on this earth to carry out a forensic examination of these so-called extermination facilities and published a report about it.

        Auschwitz itself, and all the grand, pompous holocausters from Yad Vashem to Auschwitz had never thought of doing their own forensic examination and preparing a scientific and technical report. They just sat back in their easy chairs and loftily waved away any enquiries – saying;- these are the ruined gas chambers, ladies and gentlemen, and here are the accounts of all the survivors, guards and eye-witnesses.

        Comment by Talbot — November 25, 2015 @ 12:14 pm

        • HCW – I think you will find that Fred Leuchter was recognised by the Canadian courts as an expert in gas chamber technology, otherwise he would not have been allowed to give evidence under oath in the Zundell trial.

          Comment by Talbot — November 25, 2015 @ 12:20 pm

          • The Canadian Courts accepted him as a witness, not as an expert.

            Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 1:24 pm

            • That seems to be “splitting hairs” to me HCW. Leuchter was not permitted by the judge to give testimony about the cremation facilities because he claimed that Leuchter had no expertise in that field. But the judge did allow Fred Leuchter to give sworn testimony about the “gas chambers” because he did recognise his credentials in execution technology within the United States.

              Comment by Talbot — November 25, 2015 @ 2:27 pm

              • I thought Holocaust denial was all about splitting hairs.
                No, the judge allowed him testify as a witness, a word I’ve seen that I found amusing, like a tourist.

                Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 2:47 pm

        • The Poles conducted forensic examinations on not only Birkenau but the Operation Reinhard Camps in 1945-46. They used the evidence collected at Birkenau at Rudolph Hoess’s trial.

          Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 1:28 pm

          • Sorry, let me correct something I said. I said OR Camps, I needed to say “sites” as the Germans tore down those camps.

            Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 1:31 pm

          • I guess not…..

            http://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/17/local/me-5929

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 1:36 pm

          • Hmmmmm seems to be a problem here…
            http://articles.latimes.com/2002/aug/14/local/me-explode14

            Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 1:38 pm

          • Again…..get the picture?
            http://www.snopes.com/humor/follies/bugbomb.asp

            Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 1:39 pm

          • Rudolf Hoess made several confessions. I wrote about his confessions on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/RudolfHoess.html

            Comment by furtherglory — November 25, 2015 @ 1:46 pm

          • HCW – You say that that there was a Polish forensic examination carried out in 1945 – 46. Well, that’s funny, because dear old “Hapless Hilberg” at the Zundell Trial said he was “at a loss”, when asked if he was aware of any scientific report into these “extermination facilities”. No wonder the poor, clueless man never turned up for the second trial!

            Comment by Talbot — November 25, 2015 @ 2:20 pm

            • Perhaps he simply did not know. Are you saying that Mr. Hillberg should be omnipotent?
              I think a better explanation is that he did not have access to the files. After all, there was no equivalent of a FOI act for Communist Poland.

              Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 2:39 pm

            • In the beginning as far as I have read…the Forensics from the Poles and others if available came back the same as Leuchtner and Rudolfs, they agreed with each other.
              As pressure was put upon them they changed their tune. Same as the IRC International Red Cross, they knew there were NO homicidal gas chambers but later changed their tune also and said there were.
              Bottom line….they had a story to bridge up and the truth didn’t matter. Everyone had to be on the same team and the Exterminationist story would be the main theme.
              Whatever other contradictory evidence there was didn’t matter and was not permitted to be brought up at any of the trials…Those that would testify against the main story were not permitted to and were suspiciously killed. Thats why they had to kill the defendants so quickly they had to make sure there was NO evidence that would come back later to kick them in the ass.. Have you ever heard of capital punishment without an appeal process?
              Thats why reading the Auschwitz Myth by Wilhelm Staglich will greatly educate you to what really happened, and if the court can cover it up you can imagine how off the main story is.
              When the courts stack the deck against you than your case is lost and in this situation many needlessly died because they wouldn’t allow the truth to be brought in as evidence The truth stands on its on merit and you don’t have to lie to prove your case.
              The holohoax story is based on one big lie and when you have one big lie you need a lot of little lies to back up your case.

              Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 2:40 pm

            • Watch my interview with Fred Leuchtner and see what he had to say about it.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 2:42 pm

          • First, those people used WAY too many bug bombs in a confined space.
            Second, while what happened was tragic modern “bug bombs” are not similar to ZB.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fogger

            As you can see the chemicals used are different.

            Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 2:00 pm

            • Chemicals are different but work on the same principle……they are all explosive I wouldn’t ya think?
              My point is they are explosive read the label….

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 2:21 pm

              • Modern “bug bombs” are stored in pressurized aerosol bottles, like hair spray. They are also explosive under the right conditions.
                ZB was not pressurized and was stored in a metal can.

                Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 2:43 pm

                • Being in the can is not the problem it’s when its vaporized that it becomes a problem.
                  I’m sure those people can attest to that.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 25, 2015 @ 2:57 pm

  4. FG, Rizoli provides a forum. If I am Fred Leuchter and I have someone willing to listen to me, tape me and get my message out, hack or not, why not allow Rizoli the interview?
    I understand that you like him. Personally I think he is a hack who parrots what other deniers have actually spent time researching. I don’t see anywhere that he’s done any original research. He simply quotes other deniers during his goofy videos. At least Leuchter, Faurrison, Mattogino, etc. have been to the sites, done research, written books, etc.

    Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 7:23 am

  5. HCW…. you are right I’ve lost patience with you because you are not even worth having a discussion with because you’re so off the wall with the information that you presented. How anybody can believe in this holohoax scam is beyond me but you believe it and that’s fine. Is just like people that are in a cult you can’t get them to see anything else other than what they say. Until they get out of the cult then they will see the truth. You remain in the fishbowl you will never ever be able to see the truth unless you get out of your fish bowl.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 4:24 pm

    • I believe that people who believe in Holocaust denial are living in a fish bowl.

      Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 5:22 pm

    • You have a weird version of the “truth.”

      Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 5:23 pm

    • Mr. Rizoli, please stop recommending reading materials. I took your advice once, it’s time I’ll never get back again.

      Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 8:07 pm

      • You’re a lost cause….

        Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 8:12 pm

        • Not really. Your cause means nothing to me.

          Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 9:06 pm

        • Oh, all right, Mr. Rizoli. You’ve worn me down.
          It’s called the Auschwitz Myth by Staeglich?
          Sorry, I’m reading this on my phone and the text is stretching out so I am having a hard time reading everything.

          Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 7:48 am

        • Never mind, I found it.
          You have my word, I will read it with an open mind. I’m in the middle of reading something else right now but I will try and read it over the upcoming holiday.

          Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 7:52 am

  6. I guess what makes more sense to you is putting 800 people in a room that can only hold 100 with only one square foot of space for each of them that makes more sense to you…. really.
    So please explain to me how the ZB gas gets into the lungs of these people if there’s no space for the gas to circulate around them. If anything the people would have died of asphyxiation that would have been a better way of killing them.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 5:53 pm

    • Do you think this is a proper response to my asking what the bases for your “9 sq ft airspace” is? Did you pull “9 sq ft” out of your ass? It sure as hell looks like it.

      Comment by blake121666 — November 22, 2015 @ 7:35 pm

      • If I can recall the 9 square foot of space around each person was with a discussion with Fred Leuchter. I also viewed circulation chart showing how the process works. Once you understand that then you can see that you definitely need circulation area around people for this to work. Again like I mentioned the Holocaust exterminationists people are presenting a scenario that is technically impossible to replicate. There is no way you can put a thousand people 2000 people on more in a room that can only hold 100 of 200 or whatever and have fans in that room circulating the gas that comes out of the ZB pellets.
        Where would they put the fans the fans would be pulled apart by the people in the room.
        And to think that people would be stupid enough to allow this to happen to themselves as they sheepishly are hearded into a room that they can hardly move in is hard to fathom in itself. Imagine standing in a line in the cold cold snowy winter with a towel nude waiting to go into a room that they say is a shower room. Not going to happen with me that’s for sure and I don’t think it would have happened with these people either they would have all revolted right then and there and chose to get shot if that was the case.

        Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 8:10 pm

    • I’m reading the book Auschwitz The First Gassings by Carlos Mottogno
      Notice this sound bite…..on page 15

      When Eichmann came the next time I advised him about this use of Cyklon B, and we decided to use this gas for the future mass annihilations. Killing of the Russian POWs mentioned above by means of Cyklon B was continued, but block 11 was no longer used, because after the gassing the entire building had to be ventilated for at least two days.”

      So enough said for continuous gassings in Auschwitz.
      This comment even though not really true in the first place but made up by Rudolf Hoss , the commandant of Auschwitz at the time,to save his ass which by the way didn’t work, shows that you need time to ventilate the buildings where ZB is used. For people to say gassings were going on 24/7 would be ridiculous. There had to be a down time to get things back to normal for the next gassing wouldn’t you think? So according to this comment gassings could only take place maybe two times a week when down time is accounted for. This sure would put a crimp on those eyewitnesses who claimed tens of thousands were killed a day there. Gerstein said as many as 40,000!!!!!
      And the other liars said 10, 20, 30, thousand…didn’t matter how many because no one was gassed. So the expert liars could pick any number and the idiots listening in would believe this scientific impossibility.

      Nice to see HCW here believes this crap……next show me where all the coal stored was to be used to accomplish this miracle. You need 66 lbs per body.
      So do the impossible math. You would need four tons just to cremate 1400 bodies, imagine 40,000!!!!!! Yikes give me some prime stock in that coal company….LOL
      Good article…..
      http://www.whale.to/b/crematoriums_h.html

      Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 10:57 am

      • On my website, I wrote about Block 11 where the first gassing of prisoners allegedly took place:http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz06B.html

        Why are tourists not allowed to see the inside of this room? Something wrong!

        Comment by furtherglory — November 23, 2015 @ 11:12 am

      • Mr. Rizoli, I understand you have a limited capability to understand things so I’m going to go slowly.
        First, the fact that Hoess recognized the limited killing capacity of bunker 11 leads us logically to the fact that the Germans would try to use better facilities. So, they moved to the Little Red House and the Little White House. The facilities were larger, easier to convert and adequate for what the Germans needed at that time. While they had the same ventilation issues they were easier to air out than Bunker 11.
        Keep in mind in 1942 the main killing actions took place in the Action Reinhardt Camps. Auschwitz at that time took less transports and killed less people.
        This changed in 1943. The AR camps were winding down, their main purpose, the eradication of most of the Jews in the Polish Ghettos, almost finished. The Germans were looking at the other Jewish populations as a whole. Auschwitz had the size to grow, plus the facilities to utilize Jewish labor. Keep in mind this corresponded with an expansion of the concentration camp system as a whole to utilize them in the war effort. With the expansion in size more crematorium were needed. The original idea, a sort of combo crematorium/morgue, is a sound one.
        It was also easy to convert morgue into gas chambers. They already have a ventilation system.
        The change occurred in the Spring of 1943. By making adjustments in the original structures, for instance adding heating elements, gas tight doors and wire mesh columns, it became easy to convert these structures into gas chambers. The Jews went in, were murdered and then transported to the crematorium.
        When crematorium could not handle the bodies outdoor burnings occurred.
        I hope I went slow enough. I know your denier mind is filled with delusions about Jews and conspiracies.

        Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 11:43 am

        • Please show me a homicidal gas chamber…..is that SLOW enough for you? Still waiting for that picture you think is floating around somewhere….
          In Crema ! NO ventilation fans, No nothing! 700-800 people were stuffed into a room that could only hold at most 100-200 and that would be way cramped.
          Where were the circulation fans placed? They were killed in 15 minutes…LOL Too slow for you?
          You are so delusional and have all the answers with NO facts…and best of all your facts don’t line up with scientific possibility, hows that for slow?
          Also so me a body that was forensically tested to be said was killed with ZB, I’m talking ZB in the lungs not hair samples…..They shouldn’t have any hair because Bomba the barber said.. they all had their hair cut before being “gassed”.. Lots of contradictions that you are not willing to talk about.
          Again it’s hard to deal with knuckleheads like you that just read off the internet and quote other unreliable agenda based sources.
          How about reading some books that got it right? Like The Myth of Auschwitz by Judge Wilhelm Staglich, or this one Buckenwald, Dora prisoner… Paul Rassinier Debunking Genocide Myths, for starters….at least they were there to see what happened.
          Raul Hilberg the kind of expert you like, (The Destruction of The European Jews fantasy ) didn’t even show up for the second Zundel trial because he got his ass whopped in the first one….LOL

          Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 12:03 pm

          • Wait, what, are you honestly giving me reading tips after you suggested and I read that crap fest the Bad War??????!!!!!!!!
            HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            I’ve read some of the so-called “Holocaust Handbooks,” Mr. Rizoli, no need to point them out to me.
            I’ll let you know when I’m in the mood to read material written by hacks who wouldn’t know real history if it snuck up and bit them on the ass.
            You make it sound as though it would

            Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 12:55 pm

            • Cont….be difficult to make a room gas tight. The delousing rooms at any concentration camp were primitive structures and yet the Germans managed to make them air tight. Are you saying the Germans couldn’t figure this out on their own?

              Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 12:58 pm

          • Mr. Rizoli, you lost it long ago.

            Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 4:14 pm

        • HCW – if they converted the morgues of Kremas 2 & 3 into gas chambers, as you allege, then where were the bodies of those who died in this vast Birkenau camp placed after the conversion had taken place?

          Comment by Talbot — November 23, 2015 @ 12:03 pm

          • They were incinerated as planned.

            Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 1:00 pm

            • With due respect, Mr HCW, that is a pretty lame explanation. If these Krema’s were purposely built as morgues and crematoriums to deal with the high death rate in the camp, but were then promptly converted into extermination facilities, then there must have some kind of replacement facility in which to temporarily hold the bodies before oven space became available to cremate them.

              Comment by Talbot — November 23, 2015 @ 2:12 pm

              • Why?
                The truth is that Auschwitz had an excess capacity to incinerate corpses, both from the camps and from transports.
                I’m not going to take credit for this:
                http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwitz/crematoria/furnace-capacity-analysis.html
                In cases where the crematorium broke down the Nazis could resort to outdoor burning.
                1,000,000 didn’t just show up, this was a steady stream of transports into the camp over a period of months, not days.

                Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 3:24 pm

                • HCW… I think you’re losing it!

                  Do you have any idea how long it would take to burn these bodies outdoors??? That has to be one of the most absurd stories you have said so far. You can’t burn bodies with fire in and out side pit they take way too long to burn then the bones what do you do with the bones you have to break up the bones don’t you, so where is all that being done where are the bone crushing machines where is all the ash being dumped. Its at least 8 lbs of ash for every body. Sure they have answers for all these things but the answers are just so plain dumb you have to be an idiot to believe them but I guess people believe them.

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 3:39 pm

                • I do wish you would stop recommending websites where the contributors don’t provide any credentials, or else they have an expertise in a totally different subject from the matter in hand.

                  Who is this Mark Van Alstine, and what are his credentials and qualifications, either in the cremation industry, or in Auschwitz Historiography.

                  I note that his essay is full of phrases such as;- “I will assume”; “assuming for arguments sake”; “now, again, assuming for arguments sake”; “using estimates”; “contended”; “we can make an educated guess”; “my best guess”. Now what kind of nonsense is all this? Its just a lot of numbers and figures cobbled together with a coating of if’s, but’s, and maybe’s! This is nowhere near good enough to be convincing of where they placed the bodies of those who died in Birkenau before they were cremated.

                  Comment by Talbot — November 23, 2015 @ 4:34 pm

                • That’s what the whole holohoax it. its all if ands and buts with no facts. They just throw out all these numbers and factless information and impossibilities and the people are going to believe it and sadly they do the more incredible it sounds the more they will believe it.

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 4:46 pm

              • Nizkor is a well respected website. Even FG has quoted them.
                Look, Talbot, I understand that you simply cannot accept anything that goes against the views that you now hold.
                Van Pelt is a well known historian. I provided you a link that I don’t think you’ve read. He’s also an architect, which means he understands how to interpret blue prints and how to construct buildings. He studied the historical documents available at Auschwitz. Frankly I take his word over those who seem to have a political or racist agenda or those who want to rehabilitate Adolph Hitler. I don’t demonize Hitler, I simply place him in his correct historical place, one of the powerful dictators of the 20th Century like Stalin and Mao Tse Tung, men who believed that the ends justified any means, including the deaths of millions.
                I will say that I have done my research, that I’ve read dozens of books on the Holocaust, World War II, World War I, the conditions in Europe both before and after World War II. I do this because I love history, it was my major at school. Unfortunately my life took a different path so I don’t teach history like I wanted but I still read a great deal.
                I have read denier literature, I’ve been to their websites. I’ve found their arguments unconvincing because I know better, I’m too well read to be convinced.
                I don’t mind these conversations, Talbot. You seem like an intelligent man so I don’t mind the back and forth.

                Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 5:49 pm

                • HCW…. how about reading the Myth of German Villainy that will give you a nice overview of what happened with Germany from World War one until now. Right now you are getting the Jew version of history.
                  One of the best books I’ve ever read.

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 5:55 pm

                • I’m not doubting Mr Van Pelt’s integrity when it comes to architectural design and structures. And you say that he is an expert in the interpretation of blueprints and plans. But the blueprints for Kremas 2 & 3 clearly say the German word “Leichenkeller”, which I’m reliably informed translates as “body cellar”, or morgue. Mr Van Pelt describes these, however, as “gas chambers”, and so when I sit down and read his lengthy tome over the Christmas holidays I will be studying his work with an eagle’s eye to find out why he decided to change the function of these facilities and how strong the evidence actually is to back up his claim.

                  Comment by Talbot — November 23, 2015 @ 7:12 pm

                • Good for you, Mr Rizoli – keep churning out those You tube videos. They’re brilliant!. Now that the academic researchers and professors of revisionism have done their work, people like you and your brother can get the message out to the general public – especially to young people who we must help break free from all this horrific holocaust nonsense.

                  If the Jews themselves feel the need to retain the holocaust as part of their religious, historic or cultural make-up – then so be it. But after 70 years they mustn’t be allowed to impose that belief system on the rest of us. How can we be held responsible for events that happened before most of us were even born.

                  Comment by Talbot — November 23, 2015 @ 7:48 pm

              • Oh Talbot, I just lost so much respect for you.
                Rizoli is a hack who simply parrots what other deniers have done before him.
                Rizoli does not know the difference between Sondercommando and Kapos. He also has some crazy idea that the Germans sprinkled ZB on corpses like salt, I guess to preserve them.
                Never mind that ZB has no application like what he is describing.
                I will also spend some of my holiday going over his videos and see what I come up with.

                Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 9:14 pm

                • How do you explain the fact that experts like Leuchter and Germar Rudolf are willing to talk with him? If Rizoli were a “hack” these men would not trust him to make a video of them.

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 24, 2015 @ 7:08 am

                • HCW

                  You make issues out of non issues and then you avoid the most important things like the issue of showing me a picture of a real functioning homicidal gas chamber.
                  Then you expect us to believe that hundreds of thousands of bodies were left outside in a big heap to be slowly pains takenly one by one brought to the crematoria room that they just exited from….complete nonsense. But you expect us to believe it. LOL
                  You back up liars and falsifiers of history and then you say my sources are wrong go figure! I tell you to read The Auschwitz Myth by Wilhelm Staglich but you refuse.
                  He presents the case as would a honest court looking for the truth not like the lynching mobs of the Nuremberg trials or the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials, where they had the story all set in their minds (that six million jews were exterminated by ZB or whatever ) and all other testimony to the contrary is irrelevant. So all the witnesses, lawyers, even defendents had to actually lie to save their own skin. That is not a way to run a fair trial. That is why you have to read Staglichs book, then you’ll get the whole picture, and understand that all these trials were just show trials because they already had the verdicts in hand before the trials even started.
                  Oh by the way any witness that said opposite than the prescribed story and was going to testify mysteriously died, or was killed later. They had to make sure dead men leave no trails…Look up the last Commandant of Auschwitz Richard Baer, he said there was no homicidal gas chambers….consider this snipit from the book…
                  Why didn’t the court get to hear his testimony?????

                  quote…..
                  Particularly noteworthy is the fate of the most prominent of the defendants, Richard Baer, the last commandant of Auschwitz. He did not live to see the beginning of the trial. In December of 1960, Baer was arrested in the vicinity of Hamburg, where he was employed as a lumberjack. He died in June of 1963 under mysterious circumstances while being held in pre-trial custody.

                  According to various sources, which, in turn, rely on reports that appeared in the French press, Baer adamantly refused to confirm the existence of “gas chambers” at the camp he once administered. Although it has been alleged that he was eliminated by poisoning on account of this refusal, the cause of his death has never been established. His wife claimed that he was in excellent health. While Langbein merely states that an autopsy revealed that he died of “natural causes,” Naumann specifies a “circulatory ailment” as the cause of death. Of course, a circulatory ailment is only a symptom of preexisting disease that has causes of its own. It is quite possible, however, that the physical condition of this strong and healthy outdoor labourer deteriorated as a result of his treatment in prison. That would be damning enough to those suspicious of the whole affair when one reads the report on the autopsy performed at the Frankfurt-Main University School of Medicine: “The ingestion of an odourless, non-corrosive poison… cannot be ruled out. Nevertheless, there was no further probe into the cause of Baer’s death, and Chief Public Prosecutor Bauer ordered his body cremated. One may dismiss the possibility that Baer committed suicide, since, according to his wife, he was counting on an acquittal. Moreover, shortly before his death Baer complained to the guards that he was feeling ill and asked for a physician. That is hardly the action of someone who intends to take his own life. This very mysterious event hardly attracted public attention, and presumably the affair was systematically hushed up. When one considers the reaction the death of an inmate in a German prison usually calls forth among officials, legislators, and the mass media, it seems astounding that this case was kept so quiet, all the more so because Baer was no ordinary prisoner, but a man whose testimony could have had the greatest impact in the upcoming trial. The suspicion that interested parties had Baer removed by means of poison – as has often been claimed – cannot be dismissed.

                  The motives for such an action are obvious. If anyone at all knew the truth about the “gas chamber” allegation, it was Baer, the last commandant of Auschwitz. That he refused to give his authoritative confirmation to the “gas chamber” story is shown by the fact that the statements he made during his interrogation were not read into the trial record. They must have been of no value to the prosecution. What the main defendant had to say about the central accusation regarding Auschwitz was anything but a matter of indifference to the initiators of the trial. Had Baer resolutely contested this allegation and been able to show its absurdity, he would not only have made it difficult for them to attain their primary objective —to reinforce the “gas chamber” myth and establish it as an unassailable “historical fact”— but he might also have caused the proceedings to take an entirely different course. By his steadfastness, Baer would have set an example for the co-defendants to follow, and perhaps even influenced some of the other participants in the trial. Hence one should give some credence to the charge that Baer’s refusal to play the role assigned him in the script is the reason the trial could not begin until after his death.

                  We shall not delve into this matter. The fact is that the Auschwitz Trial did begin almost immediately after Baer’s death. Laternser is of the opinion that there was too much haste involved. However, the preliminary investigations were completed on October 19, 1962, as Langbein informs us so nothing much really could have stood in the way of the start of the trial-except, of course, Baer’s “stubbornness.” Was Baer murdered in jail? Ever since the brutal abduction of Adolf Eichmann in Argentina-as a matter of fact, even before-it has been common knowledge that the Israeli secret service is capable of just about anything. Given such circumstances as the fact that Chief Public Prosecutor Bauer was a Zionist —for which reason he should not have been permitted to head the combined investigation— it is quite possible that the mighty arm of international Jewry was able to reach into Baer’s ail cell, though for lack of conclusive proof, this question must remain open. At any rate, one may assume that Baer’s sudden death came as a great shock to the other defendants. Since his position on the “gas chambers” allegation must have been known to them, some of the defendants may have taken his unexpected and mysterious demise as a warning, and altered their own stance accordingly. For the promoters of the trial, Baer’s death could only have been a welcome development.

                  Conclusion….
                  I guess there is no hope for you. People like you are what I call wasters of my time. You present nonsense and try to send me on a goose chase with that nonsense.
                  Sorry pal not going to happen…..when you know the truth all other info falls by the wayside and thats where your info goes in the trash heap of unreality.

                  Again for the tenth time read Staglichs book and see if you don’t have a change of heart…..its on line as a free pdf……

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 24, 2015 @ 7:38 am

        • You must understand that Mr.Rizoli has spoken at great length with Fred Luechter and Germar Rudolf, both of whom are very polite and they suffer fools gladly. They have explained things to him in simple terms.

          You wrote “It was also easy to convert morgue into gas chambers. They already have a ventilation system.”

          When the morgue was converted into a gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp, where did they put the bodies after there was no longer a morgue? They would have had to carry the bodies to the ovens, a few at a time. The German people are not stupid. They would not have done something like that.

          This would have been an extremely inefficient system.

          You wrote: “ By making adjustments in the original structures, for instance adding heating elements, gas tight doors and wire mesh columns, it became easy to convert these structures into gas chambers. The Jews went in, were murdered and then transported to the crematorium.”

          As far as I know, the alleged “wire mesh columns” were never found.

          Comment by furtherglory — November 23, 2015 @ 12:03 pm

          • From the book The First Gassings…by Carlos Mottogno.

            “Jean-Claude Pressac initially attributed to the first gassing the character of a first experimental testing of hydrogen cyanide for mass exterminations:34 “Because the lethal dose for humans was not known, the SS had made a botched trial gassing in the basement of Bunker 11 of the Stammlager on 3rd, 4th and 5th September 1941, the victims being 850 Soviet POWs and other prisoners. It was subsequently seen to be more convenient to gas people as required in the very place where all corpses inevitably had to go eventually: the morgue of Krematorium I.”

            So where exactly was that morgue? If Krema 1 was converted from a morgue to a “gas” chamber and the crematoriums were separate in another room where was the morgue to store these hundreds of bodies. Do you know how big 850 bodies is and the space they would take up.
            I guess that isn’t an issue with people that think you can cremate 3 bodies in 15 minutes….LOL It’s called magic!

            Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 12:36 pm

            • It might be more constructive for you to correct the really crappy errors in your videos instead of filling your brain with any more garbage.
              So, explain to me how exactly Zyclon B is supposed to preserve corpses?

              Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 3:30 pm

          • From the book The First Gassing by Carlos Mottogno you can download it free as a pdf….on the internet.
            “At the Frankfurt Auschwitz trial, the former Polish detainee Eugeniusz Motz declared:36 “In 1941, I spent three months in the clothing depot, between August and October, give and take a month. My boss there was Breitwieser, his deputy Reichenbacher; the capo came from Silesia, his successor was Walter Petzold. During that time, a first test was run for the delousing of the dirty laundry by means of gas. We had to patch up all cracks in the room; Breitwieser took a gas mask and sprinkled the gas on the laundry, after which we also had to patch up the door. The next day, Breitwieser got his gas mask, opened the door and the window(s), the room was ventilated, and the laundry was then taken away to be washed. In our presence, Breitwieser said to Reichenbacher: ‘Now we also have something to exterminate the inmates with.’

            This is what you call expert German Engineering??? LOL” I guess they (the Marx Brothers) must of forgot that the fumigation chambers the (Germans) used for clothing bedding etc was just a little bit more sophisticated than these dumbos invented.
            This is one of those been there done that moments….Hard to believe people fall for this stuff…..but we have some posters here that do.

            Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 12:46 pm

            • Well, Mr. Rizoli, you believe that the “Bad War” is a valid source for history. What does that say about you?
              One last thing:
              Have you figured out the difference between Kapos and Sondercommando yet? Have you fixed your crappy, inaccurate video?
              I haven’t had the patience to sit through one of your ridiculous videos lately. With the holidays coming up I’ll probably give another try.
              Oh, something else:
              Do you still believe the Nazis were sprinkling corpses with Zyclon B?

              Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 1:10 pm

          • http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/intro-columns/
            They were removed but included in the plans for the chambers.
            We also have eyewitness testimony from three corroborating witnesses.

            Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 1:05 pm

            • Yes so call eyewitness testimony is the worst testimony that can be given. These people will Liars to try to save their own next and ate indicate what the truth was. After reading Wilhelm Staglichs book the Auschwitz Myth you’ll find that most all of the testimony given during the Nuremberg trials and the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials are all lies where would you like me to begin.
              By the way that link I put up with your garbage they give information that they can’t even back up and they think that by throwing in the so-called eyewitnesses it’s going to back up their case even more. It does just the opposite once you start to research these people out and see what they said then you’ll see the whole thing for what it is the biggest scam of the century and many people went to the death because of it and the Jews are going to have to answer for it and the people that back these Jews up are going to have to answer to
              God for it also for not standing up for the truth.
              The judges the lawyers the eyewitnesses one big conspiracy against the truth I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes when the end comes.

              Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 1:29 pm

              • I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes when the end comes. Hating people the way you do is not Christian….this is coming from a man who is not particularly religious.

                Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 3:26 pm

              • Mr. Rizoli, I no longer trust your ability to recommend reading material.

                Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 3:28 pm

  7. No we should trust your expert witnesses that don’t even know what a real homicidal gas chamber looks like but they look at the fake gas chambers in the camps and believe they are.
    Pretty funny!

    Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 5:39 pm

    • You should hit the reply button of the message you are replying to. I am going to assume you are replying to me. I, of course, don’t believe in the gassing narrative for a gazillion reasons. I also don’t agree with playing on people’s scientific ignorance to refute that narrative. It’s a tough call on my part – given that most people believe the Holocaust narrative based on ignorance, propaganda, appeal to authority, and brain-washing.

      Now, w.r.t. your “real homicidal gas chamber” nonsense. If you believe that delousing was done in rooms and that people would have died if they were in those rooms that were deloused, then you have your “real homicidal gas chamber” right there. You need to show the differences between delousing and alleged homicidal gas chambers to say something like, “Well, that couldn’t have been done with people”. There are differences between the two scenarios; but not in the way that you pseudo-scientists are leading people to believe. The explosive dangers would be virtually the same. The handling of gassed corpses would not be a problem. This “9 sq ft of airspace between persons” needs to be shown and not just stated ipse dixit. I think we all know what Leuchter’s ipse dixit is worth given his position on the explosion limits are. “Believe me ex cathedra” is Leuchter’s silly response as he tells us all that pigs fly.

      Comment by blake121666 — November 22, 2015 @ 7:30 pm

  8. 1Corinthians 6-9,10.
    God judges those that lie!
    The Bible says hate what is bad love what is good.
    Those that back up anything having to do with the Synagogue of Satan will be judged for the evil ways.
    Jesus hated the Jews who rebelled against God’s laws. They continue to do so and people like you continue to support them and back them up for the evil deeds you should be ashamed of yourself.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 10:18 am

    • No, Mr. Rizoli. Real evil comes from those that use religion or ideology to murder the innocent.
      The warped Muslims in Paris that murdered the innocent while perverting the tenets of their religion, that is true evil.
      The Catholics and Protestants in the Middle Ages that slaughtered innocent men and women for heresy and witchcraft, that is true evil.
      The Communists in the Soviet Union who justified the deliberate, systematic starvation of millions of innocents in order to build the perfect society, that is true evil.
      Finally, the Nazis who justified the slaughter of millions of innocent Jews and non-Jews with their perverted ideological need to rid themselves of those they considered a “Life Unworthy of Life,” that is true evil.

      Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 10:42 am

      • Travelling over from Israel to the United States in order to set up, and video record collapsing skyscrapers with thousands of people trapped inside – now that can be described as true evil. Jews dressed up in Arab costumes and dancing merrily around on the roof of vehicles while such devastation is occurring is also fairly wicked in my book.

        Comment by Talbot — November 22, 2015 @ 11:29 am

        • Oh God, Talbot, are you one those crazy conspiracy theorists who think the Jews were behind 9/11??????!!!!!!!??????!!!!!!
          Ok, I’ve officially hit my limit for crazy today.
          Off to watch football.

          Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 11:41 am

          • How can I be a “crazy conspiracy theorist” when three of the Israeli Mossad agents appeared on Israeli TV and said that ” they were there (in New York City) to record the event.” So Mossad must have known in advance, and didn’t warn their US counterparts in order to prevent the attacks.

            But anyway, HCW, enjoy your football, and don’t get too upset when other people don’t see the world in quite the same way as you.

            Comment by Talbot — November 22, 2015 @ 12:22 pm

            • Forgive me, Talbot. Your views do deserve my respect, even if I don’t believe them.
              If you have a link to the interview you mentioned I will watch it when I get the chance.

              Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 12:49 pm

              • HCW – if you type in “You tube 9/11 Dancing Israelis” you will see a short documentary which shows some suspicious activity by Israeli / Mossad individuals in New York, including the interview that I mentioned.

                Comment by Talbot — November 22, 2015 @ 1:44 pm

                • Thank you, I will take a look when I get a chance.

                  Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 1:55 pm

              • I saw that video pretty plain in what they were saying. Jews were involved with 911 in some capacity.

                Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 5:11 pm

            • “crazy conspiracy theorists”

              A significant majority would shut up if there was a convincing explanation for the remarkably symmetrical collapse of WTC-7.

              Collapse of WTC-7

              Collapse of WTC-7 in slow motion

              Comment by eah — November 22, 2015 @ 1:14 pm

              • I could say bat shit crazy, does that work for you?

                Sincerely,
                HCW

                P.S.
                I wish you and your loved ones a safe and joyfull holiday season.

                Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 1:20 pm

  9. You said my blatant anti-semitism ruins my message. I hate anyone that misrepresents the facts and lies about the facts. The Jews have done this for years I’m tired of their antics and I will expose them any which way I can if you call it anti-semitism fine I call it exposing people who are outright liars. The Holocaust is a scam they made billions of dollars on the scam and they continue to do so with Dumbo’s like you who defend them. if that’s what you want to do fine if you can’t accept the truth for what it is then your disingenuous person yourself and you’re not an honest person. God will judge you. I will continue to expose the Jews for what they have done they belong to the Synagogue of Satan in my opinion and they continue to lie so I have no respect for them at all you call it what you want I call it for what it is.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 9:30 am

    • Don’t be upset by the term “anti-semitism.” This just means that you are not Jewish. All non Jews are “anti-semites.”

      Comment by furtherglory — November 22, 2015 @ 9:34 am

      • That’s funny, I’m not Jewish.
        I’m actually Roman Catholic which is about as far from being a Jew as you can get.
        God will judge?
        God judges those that hate.

        Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 9:57 am

    • No, my poor friend. It is you who is badly mistaken.
      I don’t know what happened to you, what broke to make you see the world the way that you do. I do know that you are sadly confused.
      My sympathy for you would be greater if I hadn’t seen your videos with their hideous portrayal of Jews.
      If you are really Christian you would lose this unreasoning hate you possess and go find something constructive to do. I’m not a religious person myself, I was raised Catholic but don’t really belong to a church at this time but even I know Jesus was about love not hate.
      Obsessions are not healthy.

      Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 10:07 am

  10. The Leuchter Report, The Rudolph Report, The (Walter) Luftel Report and the Krakow Report of The Jan Sen Insitiute of Forensic Science in Poland all corroborate eachother on the lack of lethal cyanide residue in the masonry of the rooms presented to gullible tourists at Auschwitz as homicidal gas chambers. I take Fred Leuchter seriously and so did every penitentiary warden in America before he conducted the first forensic investigation of the recieved history of the Holocaust.

    Comment by who dares wings — November 21, 2015 @ 2:55 pm

    • Huh? Every warden?
      No, they didn’t.
      As far as I can tell Leuchter never actually built a gas chamber. Even if he had it’s ludicrous to compare US gas chambers with anything the Nazis constructed in 1942 or 1943.
      Leuchter’s methodology was sloppy, he never consulted the historical documents available at Auschwitz and did not know that it takes less cyanide to kill humans than insects.
      He did not know some of the samples he took were from reconstructions or partial reconstructions.
      He did not take control samples.
      Later tests proved Leuchter wrong.

      Comment by HCW — November 21, 2015 @ 3:11 pm

      • I have spoken with Leuchter and I have actually been out with him to eat discussing these matters. I’ve been slso with Germar Rudolph so I can actually tell you what’s going on about the topic. You have no clue how it works. First of all the amount of people that they say were in the gas chambers would not even work because the “gas chamber” that was called krema 1 had approximately 800 square feet and you could only put in there comfortably 80 to 100 people in it to gas them efficiently. You could never ever have 800-1000 people in one of these rooms because you need fans to distribute the Zyklon B gas. You need at least 9 square feet of room around the person so the air could do its job. No one mentions the fans. So for you to say that Leuchter was not correct is just ridiculous because Leuchter showed how the gas chambers worked or could not work and these so-called gas chambers would never ever do what they are being accused of doing.
        If the Germans really wanted to do it right they should have used the fumigation chambers because the fumigation chambers were setup exactly right. The reason why the Germans did not use the fumigation chambers was because they were too small. So the point of all this is this the bigger chambers were not used at all because they were not set up correctly.
        Leuchter was an expert as an engineer of how the gas chambers should have been set up Germar Rudolph is an expert about the chemical aspect of zyclon b worked putting them both together is a good team to show how it should have worked.

        I noticed you didn’t say anything about Germar Rudolph why is that? Do you think he was wrong in his analysis and findings?
        Germar actually corrected Leuchter. But they both came to the same conclusions that the gas chambers could not be operated as gas chambers the way they were set up in the camps.

        Comment by jrizoli — November 21, 2015 @ 3:48 pm

        • You wrote: “But they both [Leuchter and Germar Rudolf] came to the same conclusions that the gas chambers could not be operated as gas chambers the way they were set up in the camps.”

          I think that any ordinary person, with any common sense, could come to the conclusion that the alleged gas chambers in the camps could not have worked.

          Comment by furtherglory — November 21, 2015 @ 4:03 pm

        • Leuchter is not and was not an engineer. You are wrong on that score.
          I’m not a chemist so I’ll let one do the talking.

          http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/

          http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/blue/

          http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/not-the-science/

          You talked about Carlos Porter so I thought I’d toss this in for fun.

          http://www.holocaust-history.org/forensic-sins/

          Comment by HCW — November 21, 2015 @ 4:15 pm

          • Just for the record Leuchter was an engineer but he didn’t have a license to practice engineering because in Massachusetts the only reason why you need a license if you do drawings he didn’t do drawings all blue prints. So you what you are saying is a lie again in Massachusetts you don’t need a license to practice engineering but if you do blueprints you do he never passed himself off as an engineer with a license to do blueprints do you have that straight now just to let you know hopefully now you can start telling the truth about it and stop spreading these lies

            Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 6:50 am

            • A lot of newspapers and some websites (including my own website) reported that Fred Leuchter did not have an engineering degree. Thank you for explaining the engineering degree story.

              Comment by furtherglory — November 22, 2015 @ 7:15 am

            • Then why was he facing charges in Massachusetts for practicing without an engineering license? The charges were dropped only when he signed an agreement to stop passing himself off as an engineer.
              I don’t spread lies, Mr. Rizoli. You simply don’t like what I have to say so you accuse me of spreading lies. That’s pathetic.

              Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 7:50 am

              • I guess you are missing the whole point of this discussion he wouldn’t have gone to jail for that do you understand that they just wanted him to clarify the fact that he did not have a license as an engineer who would make blueprints it wasn’t a criminal thing that he did. There are many engineers in Massachusetts that practice without licenses and behave in the same way he did you do not see them going to court over this. They came after him because the Jews wanted to get him this is one of the ways they tried to harass him but it didn’t work he didn’t go to jail because it was not a criminal charge. if you want I will give you his telephone number you can call him up yourself you can get the facts straight right from the horses mouth would you want me to do that for you.
                in fact the video interview I did of him he explains all that but you probably didn’t watch it because you don’t want to know what the truth is,.

                Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 7:59 am

                • I’ve watched your videos, Mr. Rizoli. Unfortunately for you I know enough about history in general to see through the nonsense. I’ve even been to your website. I even took your advice and read the Bad War by M. S. King. You can read my review of it on Amazon.
                  Frankly your
                  open, blatant anti-Semetism ruins your message.

                  Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 8:24 am

              • HCW: “Then why was he facing charges in Massachusetts for practicing without an engineering license? ”

                And if Leuchter’s signature amounted to a concession of incompetence in the field of engineering, why did THE Board* agreed that “nothing” in the agreement signed by Leuchter “shall be used as a basis to preclude or deny any application by Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. to be registered as a professional engineer”? Does the Board of Registration of Massachusetts often leave the door of registration open for guys who are “not even engineers” as desperately claimed by Holohoaxsters? Civil engineers account for a large portion of licensed professional engineers in the United States. So why would Leuchter have applied at the Board if he never planned to build public roads and bridges? Leuchter needed a license from the Board of Registration of Massachusetts as much as a certification from the Culinary Institute of America…

                Some American states prohibit the use of the term “engineer” by an unlicensed/unregistered person. That’s what happened to Fred Leuchter. Agreeing not to use the title “engineer” amounted in no way to conceding that he was incompetent as an engineer. That was just a legal requirement. No science involved in that agreement. Many private companies in the U.S. employ non-degree workers in technical positions with engineering titles such as “test engineer” or “field engineer.” Would any Holohoaxster dare meet those experienced workers and tell them that there are just incompetent and no real engineers?

                * The Holohoaxsters’s pathetic attempt to turn the hazy Board of Registration of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors of Massachusetts into a kind of supreme senior institution issuing certifications to valid scientists and denying such certifications to incompetent scientists, is ridiculous beyond anything. 80 or 85% of the engineers working in Massachusetts in the 1980’s were not licensed, i.e. registered at the Holohoaxsters’ Holy Board, either. And guess what. 99.9% of the engineers in the word would just respond “The what?” if they were asked about their registration at the Board of Registration of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors of Massachusetts?

                Comment by hermie — November 22, 2015 @ 10:21 am

                • Fred knew what he was doing as an engineer dealing with the topic of gas chambers. The Jews just want to have something to hang over his head to make it look like was incompetent. Too bad they weren’t as trusting of the people that they use to give testimony in court about the holohoax. Most of them have no clue on what’s going on with the topic and most of them made up lies for the prosecutors in many trials just to make themselves look good.
                  Even many of the books written about the Holocaust topic were written by people who were not skillfull or understanding of the topic they just wrote information that made it look like they knew what they were talking about when the real facts show they had no clue. Most of these Holocaust hoaxers people that have written books never were even in Auschwitz or the camps while the revisionist on the other hand that have written books that showed they were there or understood how things were supposed to work.

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 10:39 am

                • Hello, Hermie.
                  Hope everything is ok on your end, from what I’ve been seeing on the news things have been in turmoil on your side of the world since the attacks in Paris.

                  Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 10:59 am

                • There’s nothing hazy about the poor qualification for Fred Leuchter to call himself an engineer. He has no formal training in any engineering discipline and has only worked as a tech with little knowledge at the level of rigor needed of a student in any technical discipline. The man does not even acknowledge an understanding of explosion limits of gasses. He acts as if the concept is beyond his understanding and continues to toss around the idea that fumigating with Zyklon-B would necessitate an explosion hazard as if that would be the case under ANY circumstance – and in particular the case of mass gassing. This case would not necessitate an explosion hazard as has been explained to him in a number of different ways that even a high school student would understand. Is this the type of “expert” one should trust in these matters? Undeniably a quack or fraud by any standard.

                  Comment by blake121666 — November 22, 2015 @ 5:26 pm

                • Everything is OK on my end, HCW. I’m just looking with amusement at the Zio-Globalist leaders of Europe and America busy enrolling the subjugated moronic masses under their heel for the current Israeli war of expansion against ISIS. Fear is definitely very efficient to make sheeple move in the desired direction. What a pathetic circus !! No need to wonder why democracy is the governance system selected and acclaimed by Jewry. A system built on the boundless ineptitude of the masses cannot fail…

                  I have not yet discarded the possibility of another mere false flag attack.

                  Comment by hermie — November 23, 2015 @ 7:08 am

        • What is the basis of the 9 sq ft per person result? Grain is fumigated to kill insects. There isn’t much space between pieces of grain.

          Comment by blake121666 — November 21, 2015 @ 11:37 pm

          • The 9 square feet is just the best ratio around a person in a room to circulate the air has nothing to do with insects

            Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 6:52 am

            • Insects are much harder to kill than people. The example was given as an example of no air circulation space between grains. Gas works its way throughout grain piles w/o this air circulation space you speak of. What are the bases of this quacky-sounding 9 sq ft per person airspace? At the very least, can you point to some empirical data that might show this – because it is not obvious from a hard science perspective.

              Comment by blake121666 — November 22, 2015 @ 5:43 pm

              • I even have a better one for you please show me in document in Auschwitz out of the millions of people that they say will gassed one person that was gas in a homicidal gas chamber it was proven forensically that that person was gassed when you can show me that then I’ll believe you.
                I’m only asking for one out of all those millions can you show me the documents and the proof.

                Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 5:56 pm

                • That’s rich Jim. I ask you for the bases of your claim of 9 sq ft of airspace needed to mass gas people and you respond in this way. What dope are you smoking?

                  Comment by blake121666 — November 23, 2015 @ 2:52 am

                • It’s in this article just scroll down to get to it

                  http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 5:45 am

                • You have no BASIS for accusing jrizoli of smoking dope. There are many people commenting here, whose first language is not English. They are trying to figure out the bases, about which you are complaining.

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 23, 2015 @ 5:49 am

                • In defense of Blake Mr. Rizoli once asked me what I was smoking.
                  You didn’t jump to my defense, FG, why is that?
                  Mr. Rizoli actually doesn’t need to smoke anything. He gets high on his delusions and his hatred.

                  Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 4:25 pm

                • I hate liars and people who falsify statements and people who put other people in jail when they didn’t do anything wrong. That’s what I hate and anyone that backs up those type of people I hate also. I can’t believe how you can put yourself on the side of the Jews who have done this for the last 75 years and then claim hatred on our end because we’re trying to defend what’s right what are you smoking.

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 23, 2015 @ 4:35 pm

      • What were the “Later tests that proved Leuchter wrong”? Who did these tests?

        Comment by furtherglory — November 21, 2015 @ 4:05 pm

      • This business about “less cyanide to kill humans than insects” is a red herring. The amount of zyklon-B to use would be based on how quickly you’d want to kill. The typical delousing was done over many hours. One wouldn’t want to take hours to kill a room full of people. You’d want a lethal concentration for people asap and would therefore generally use a much larger amount of zyklon-B than a typical delousing of a room. Why everyone always brings up this impertinent human/insect lethality comparison just shows their ignorance of the matter (which is very great on both sides).

        Comment by blake121666 — November 21, 2015 @ 11:02 pm

        • This is true, however, it takes 300ppm to kill humans vs. 16,000ppm to kill insects. Undoubtedly the levels in the gas chambers were higher than 300ppm, this meant that ZB killed faster at the higher concentration.
          ZB is explosive at 56,000ppm, however it is doubtful that it reached anywhere close to those levels at either the gas chambers or the delousing rooms.

          Comment by HCW — November 21, 2015 @ 11:52 pm

          • It doesn’t take 16,000 ppm to kill insects – although that level of concentration could very well have been achieved in a delousing in a smallish room with a single can of Zyklon-B (like the delousing rooms at Dachau). It’s probably an order of magnitude higher than for a person – not 2 as you claim. I’d have to look into it.

            Comment by blake121666 — November 22, 2015 @ 4:09 am

          • The delousing “rooms” were not big enough to be called rooms. On the caption of a photo on my website, I called them “cubicles”. You can see the photo at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/MemorialSite/Tour/Tour25.html

            You can see more photos of the delousing cubicles on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/disinfection01.html

            Comment by furtherglory — November 22, 2015 @ 6:41 am

          • Zyklon B worked over a long period of time it wasn’t a quick fix for insects it took a long time to do. For humans it would have taken a long time to do also that’s why the people that said that people in the chambers were killed within 15 minutes thats absolutely wrong. It would have taken at least an hour or two to get up to the level to be able to kill you so these people don’t know what they talking about they don’t understand how Zyklon B works plus like I said before it needs real good air circulation to work. Another thing anyone that says Zyklon B came out of shower heads is an idiot because ZB is lighter than air so it would have stayed up to the top of the room so no one would have been killed if ZB be came out of the shower heads unless it was an all day affair.
            Leuchter was an expert on how ZB worked in a real gas chamber.
            The United States was the only country that worked with real-live gas chambers. Germany did not use real live gas chambers for people, for bugs yes for people no.

            Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 7:33 am

            • Zyclon B is lighter than air and diffuses quickly, spreading throughout an open space. I don’t know where you got the idea that it was sent through shower heads.
              Cyanide affects humans (and other vertebrae animals, rats, mice, etc) quicker than insects because of our advanced respiratory systems and the presence of hemoglobin in our blood. Insects lack hemoglobin and their respiratory systems are very primitive. This is why humans (and other vertebrae animals) die quicker from exposure to cyanide. It takes less time and lower concentrations to kill.

              Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 8:09 am

              • The shower head lie has been around for some time I guess you aren’t up on the recent books and lieing SOBs that talk about it.
                So again you are lost when it comes to the truth.
                By the way only water came through the shower heads. You might want to inform all the holohoax “eyewitnesses” about that scientific fact.
                I just finished the book The Auschwitz Myth by Wilhelm Staglich great book written by a judge who saw what happened and actually had the guts to write about it.
                You will learn a lot from the book about how corrupt the German courts were on the topic of Frankfurt Auschwitz Trials held in the 60s.
                Another Nuremberg Show trial that brought the court system to a new level of low. You really should read it you might just learn something.

                http://www.whale.to/b/staglich_b1.html

                vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres6/WSeng.pdf

                Jim Rizoli
                CCFIILE.COM

                Comment by jrizoli — November 22, 2015 @ 8:30 am

                • I’ve already read a book based upon your recommendation, no thank you.
                  None of the sources I’ve read state that the shower heads were used to distribute ZB,
                  all agree the shower heads were fake to give the illusion of showers.

                  Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 8:55 am

                • The US Seventh Army published a book immediately after the liberation of Dachau, with the title: “Dachau Liberated, The Official Report by The U.S. Seventh Army.” According to this official report, there was a total of 29,138 Jews brought to Dachau from other camps between June 20, 1944 and November 23, 1944. This report says the Jews were brought to Dachau to be executed and that they were gassed in the gas chamber disguised as a shower room and also in the four smaller gas chambers, which the staff at the Dachau Memorial Site now admits, are delousing chambers.

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 22, 2015 @ 9:09 am

                • The shower heads in the “Dachau gas chamber” were real. I managed to get a photo of the last remaining shower head a few years ago. I wrote about the shower heads on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/interior04.html

                  When it was learned later that Zyklon-B was in the form of pellets, which could not go through a shower head, the Americans made holes in the wall and alleged that the pellets were poured through these holes.

                  The holes in the wall are shown on the web page, cited above.

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 22, 2015 @ 9:19 am

                • FG, we are discussing Auschwitz, not Dachau.

                  Comment by HCW — November 22, 2015 @ 9:19 am

                • The gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp did not have shower heads. The gas was put into the room through large openings in the ceiling. You can see photos of these openings on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08D.html

                  The gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau were in ruins and no openings could be seen.

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 22, 2015 @ 9:30 am

            • “Leuchter was an expert on how ZB worked in a real gas chamber”

              He’s not expert enough to understand the concept of explosion limits. He still throws out the idea that the concentration of ZB in air that would be used to kill people would constitute an explosion hazard. This is not the case for delousing and it would not be the case for alleged mass gassing of people.

              “For humans it would have taken a long time to do also that’s why the people that said that people in the chambers were killed within 15 minutes thats absolutely wrong”

              If a person was subject to 300 ppm in air of HCN within 15 minutes time, that person would be dead. That concentration can be achieved in a very short period of time next to outgassing ZB pellets. To get that concentration throughout a large room would take some time, but is doable. And no, this would still not approach the lower explosion limit.

              “plus like I said before it needs real good air circulation to work”

              I think we’ve all had enough of Leuchter/Faurisson quackery on these matters. Why do these pseudo-scientists think this? Grain is fumigated you know; and there is very little air circulation within a silo filled with piles of grain. How do you explain this?

              Comment by blake121666 — November 22, 2015 @ 5:09 pm

              • The same can be said of piles of clothing. How much air could circulate in a heavy pile of clothes?

                Comment by HCW — November 23, 2015 @ 4:18 pm

              • Regardless of the flammability of Zyklon-B, no one in their right mind would build a homicidal gas chamber for 100’s of people in the same building as 15 ovens operating for over 20 hours a day at very high temperatures. This would be like a powder-keg waiting to go off.

                Plus the sheer chaos inside such a facility, with so many bodies lying around, and with so many new victims arriving, undressing and being herded into the chambers. All the kapos would be dashing about from here to there, taking all the clothes away from the undressing room; dragging out all the corpses from the chamber; cutting all the hair off; extracting all the gold teeth and jewellery; and then loading the bodies on to an inadequate-sized elevator in order to take them up to the furnace room, where more kapos would feed the bodies into the ovens while delivering the coking coal for the fuel and carrying away the cremated remains.

                Is it really likely that the SS would introduce into this madly frenetic environment, a deadly poisonous hydrogen-cyanide gas, that could possibly kill everyone in the vicinity, and also have the capacity to explode if a major accident occurred caused by the gas escaping from either the containers or the chambers themselves.

                Comment by Talbot — November 24, 2015 @ 10:29 am

                • Actually Talbot, the Sondercommando removed the bodies, not the Kapos.

                  Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 11:28 am

                • The following quote is from this website: http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ar/argaschambers.html

                  Begin quote:

                  SS-Unterscharfuhrer Schluch testified:

                  “I had to show the Jews the way to the gas chambers. I believe that when I showed the Jews the way they were convinced that they were really going to the baths.

                  After the Jews entered the gas chambers, the doors were closed by Hackenholt himself or by the Ukrainians subordinate to him. Then Hackenholt switched on the engine which supplied the gas.

                  After five or seven minutes – and this is only an estimate – someone looked through the small window into the gas chamber to verify whether all those inside were dead.

                  Only then were the outside doors opened and the gas chambers ventilated. After the ventilation of the gas chambers a Jewish working group under the command of their Kapo’s entered and removed the bodies from the chambers.

                  End quote

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 24, 2015 @ 11:56 am

                • HCN would not ever be in a concentration to risk any explosion in any alleged gassing scenario. That is the point. Do you get it or not? No danger of explosion – AT ALL … in any way. There would be the same danger as with delousing – which is to say NO DANGER. How does this lead you to say “like a powder-keg waiting to go off”, “and also have the capacity to explode …”. The concentration would never ever reach the level needed to even RISK explosion in any way at all if the amount of Zyklon-B sensible for the task of mass gassing was used. The Germans would not use an amount that would even come close to risking an explosion danger.

                  FYI, to neutralize HCN and make it impotent as a poison risk, the procedure is to BURN it (if it is outside the explosive range of course – which is approximately 5.6% – 40% in air). Your pseudo-scientific superstitious ignorant imagining of HCN reaching hot ovens would actuality REDUCE the danger of the HCN – it’s poisoning danger – there is NO EXPLOSION DANGER in this scenario. That is the point. That is the reason why mentioning the explosion danger w/o the caveat that there would be none in any reasonable alleged mass gassing scenario can only come across as stupidity or mendacity on the part of an alleged “expert” who brings up explosion dangers. Any “expert” who makes this explosion danger claim after being told of its falsity for decades and pretends that he doesn’t understand the concept of concentration limits of explosion with gasses is no “expert” you want to trust on this matter.

                  Comment by blake121666 — November 24, 2015 @ 8:33 pm

                • BTW, read through the document NI-9912 on Faurisson’s blog at:

                  http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-document-among-others-stating.html

                  This is the procedure that the Germans would use to fumigate buildings with Zyklon-B. At the very top it says:

                  Danger of explosion:
                  75 g. Prussic acid in 1 cbm. air. (Normal application is ca. 8 – 10 g. per cbm., so NOT EXPLOSIVE) …

                  In the German original (which is at that link as well) it says in bold letters “NOT EXPLOSIVE”. Read through the whole document. Any alleged mass gassing procedure would not entail any more explosive risk than as stated in this document – no risk.

                  Comment by blake121666 — November 24, 2015 @ 8:59 pm

                • I need to explain the seemingly nasty tone that might be read into my comment to you, Talbot. I am calling Faurisson’s arguments pseudo-scientific, superstitious, and ignorant. I somewhat fell for them for a long time myself – which is why I am a bit bitter about the whole situation. The fact is that any room that was fumigated with Zyklon-B could just as well have had people in it and therefore THAT is an answer to Faurisson’s ignorant “Show me or draw me a gas chamber”. He exaggerates the alleged problems out of his ignorance of the science – hence pseudo-scientific, superstitious nonsense which no one can make sense of because it’s a jumbled non-scientific confused mess based on his feelings about the matters and not any tangible facts. Read Rudolf’s footnotes throughout the revised Leuchter reports. He is always correcting Leuchter’s mistaken understanding of his alleged explosion dangers. Faurisson’s concern over handling “HCN-saturated” corpses is made up drivel as well.

                  Comment by blake121666 — November 25, 2015 @ 5:52 am

                • @Blake121666

                  I freely admit, I don’t know the explosive capacity of hydrogen-cyanide – you may well be correct in saying that even if sufficient quantities were heated-up to a very high temperature, then there would be no risk of explosion. I’m not disputing that Fred Leuchter wasn’t a qualified chemist either, or that his forensic work was flawless. But he was recognised in the United States – and by the Canadian courts – as an expert in gas-chamber technology, and thus I certainly think it reasonable to read what he has to say in his report. The very fact that Germar Rudolf – who was a qualified chemist – did his own forensic work at Birkenau and then corrected the Leuchter Report, then that, in my eyes, gives Fred Leuchter added credibility.

                  I’m still convinced that no gas chambers existed in Kremas 2 and 3 at Birkenau. No one would dream of messing around with a highly poisonous substance in the same building in which you are moving human bodies around and cremating them – that’s just absurd. These cadavers would be drenched in hydrogen cynanide, and yet we are told that they were dragged with ease around the facility, and even had their heads shaved, and their open mouths probed for gold teeth etc.

                  Having stood myself right alongside these two ruined structures, it became immediately clear that if they were extermination facilities, then they are just too small and compact in size to have accommodated hundreds – nay thousands – of victims. My goodness, both I and my companion, agreed with each other that it would be difficult to even get 150 people in them at any one time!

                  In addition to this, I simply will not accept that the Germans purposely built these structures as morgues and crematoria for the normal disposal of individual bodies, and then, once they were built, converted them into extermination facilities for the killing of huge masses of human beings. Such a radical change of function is just not realistic. One would have to design and build a totally different type of facility altogether. And what is interesting, is that the blueprints for the original design still exist, but the plans necessary for the substantial alterations are missing.

                  The idea that an SS guard climbed on to the roof of these alleged “gas chambers” and poured, or lowered on a hoist (and that has never been clarified!), the contents of a canister of Zylon-B pellets into vents, is equally nonsensical. Doctor Nicholas Kollerstrom , a science historian at University College London, produced a photograph of some delousing equipment inside Dachau, in which the whole process is set up inside the chamber in advance, and the canisters of Zylon-B are opened by a mechanism located outside the chamber. The pellets then automatically pour down a shute on to a large tray which is already heated to the required temperature, and a fan begins to circulate the gas around the chamber. Dachau, of course, was in existence long before Birkenau, so why couldn’t the SS use a similar system for their so-called “homicidal gas chambers”.

                  Comment by Talbot — November 25, 2015 @ 9:18 am

      • It would seem to me, that you should change your argument to a time of exposure argument. The HCN exposure times of deloused rooms would have been much longer than for alleged homicidal mass gassing of people.

        Comment by blake121666 — November 21, 2015 @ 11:50 pm

  11. Ingrid Weckert’s research into Kristallknacht seems to contradict David Irving’s parsing of the Goebbles Diary…”If the riots against Jews in Germany had been instigated by the National Socialist government itself, such an action would have been met with so little approval on the part of the German population as a whole that it would have caused a decline in popular support of the National Socialist Party, as its leading figures knew very well. Not only Zionists, but also other groups inside and outside of Germany looked on any trouble for National Socialism as being to their advantage. Hitler himself ordered a cessation of the violence against Jews, as is clearly shown by the teletyped message from Hitler’s office reproduced on page 117. Himmler ordered the SS and German police to be responsible for protecting Jews.” https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2037

    The Goebbles Duiaries Are Fake http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2011/01/goebbels-diaries-are-fake.html

    Comment by who dares wings — November 21, 2015 @ 2:43 pm

    • I find it interesting that only documents that don’t conform to your delusional world view are faked. Why is that?

      Comment by HCW — November 21, 2015 @ 5:41 pm

  12. Interesting article
    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n1p-2_Irving.html

    Jim Rizoli
    CCFIILE. COM

    Comment by jrizoli — November 21, 2015 @ 2:00 pm

    • I would be careful about taking what Irving writes or says seriously.. He has an unfortunate tendency to selectively use sources to benefit only his point of view.
      Naturally I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks Fred Leuchter is actually a credible source.

      Comment by HCW — November 21, 2015 @ 2:27 pm

      • HCW…..LIKE YOUR SOURCES ARE CREDIBLE SOURCES….LOL
        You won’t even use your real name……unless I missed it somewhere….
        Better article….
        http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p183_Weckert.html

        Jim Rizoli

        Comment by jrizoli — November 21, 2015 @ 2:38 pm

        • That’s because I’m in disguise. I don’t want anyone to know that I am secretly Hasbara.
          I wouldn’t gloat about sources if I was you. You don’t even know what the difference is between Sondercommando and Kapos.
          I also wouldn’t gloat about sources considering how Irving selectively uses sources.
          I forget, is Irving back to being a Holocaust denier? He’s such a weathervane it’s hard to keep up…..not to mention an attention whore.

          Comment by HCW — November 21, 2015 @ 2:46 pm

          • HCW

            Thought I would take you up on a comment you made about one of my videos which had me saying that they sprinkled ZB pellets on dead bodies in the morgue. I actually came up with that because of something that was said here below….
            My comment about it was just saying that if they thought that you could sprinkle ZB on laundry why couldn’t is be sprinkled on bodies to contain the lice problem there. Is this comment below true who knows but again you now can see what the thought process could of been of those who saw certain things happening but not really understanding the facts.

            This is from page

            quote..
            At the Frankfurt Auschwitz trial, the former Polish detainee Eugeniusz Motz declared: “In 1941, I spent three months in the clothing depot, between August and October, give and take a month. My boss there was Breitwieser, his deputy Reichenbacher; the capo came from Silesia, his successor was Walter Petzold. During that time, a first test was run for the delousing of the dirty laundry by means of gas. We had to patch up all cracks in the room; Breitwieser took a gas mask and sprinkled the gas on the laundry, after which we also had to patch up the door. The next day, Breitwieser got his gas mask, opened the door and the window(s), the room was ventilated, and the laundry was then taken away to be washed.

            all Carlos books….
            http://www.whale.to/b/mattogno_h.html

            Comment by jrizoli — November 24, 2015 @ 10:37 am

            • Lice attach themselves to living hosts. If their host dies they will leave the body to find a living host.
              Lice either suck bodily fluids or feed on hair, skin particles, etc.
              For a cadaver the main concern would be insects that feed on decaying organisms, for example flies and their larvae, certain types beetles, etc. Another concern would be rats, mice, any other scavenger that would prey on a decaying body.
              The main problem with what you are describing is that if you release ZB into a morgue is that without ventilation you couldn’t go back into it before it airs out. It would have to be freezing in the room to prevent decay which rules out the problem of insect infestation. I also don’t know how ZB would interact in a freezing room.
              ZB does not prevent decay, as a body decays it is subject to aerobic bacteria first, however, anaerobic bacteria then continues the process.
              Now, mice and rats may not necessarily be deterred by cold or freezing temperatures but you can control them by ordinary poison.

              Comment by HCW — November 24, 2015 @ 11:50 am


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