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November 24, 2015

10 year old girl on Schindler’s List was told that she was being marched into a gas chamber

Filed under: Holocaust, movies — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 12:42 pm
Scene from the movie Schindler's List

Scene from the movie Schindler’s List

This quote is from a news article which you can read in full here:

Rena Finder, the youngest and last Holocaust survivor from Schindler’s list, shared these sentiments with me during an interview last year. Rena, at 10 years old, became an enemy of the state because she was Jewish. Alongside her mother, naked, bleeding and filled with terror, Rena was marched into what they were told was the gas chamber. The door was locked and the lights went out as the women screamed in horror waiting for the gas. She would die for the crime of being Jewish.

Unfortunately, the news article does not tell us how Rena was saved.  Was she actually in a shower room, as was shown in the movie Shindler’s List?

Rena was 10 years old. Children under the age of 15 were gassed at Auschwitz.  Why wasn’t she gassed?  Why was she bleeding? Sadly, the news article doesn’t tell us.

I wrote about the movie Schindler’s List on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Kazimierz/Kazimierz01C.html

 

51 Comments »

  1. Jeff you got to be kidding me you didn’t even address the issue let’s forget about how many died the fact that many died is the issue okay you can call me on the exact figures no one’s ever going to know except the holy six million Jews that they say died because that’s the figure everybody believes in. Anyway the Allies horribly and mercelessly attacked and killed innocent people and you refused to acknowledge that happening….hard to believe.
    If the Germans did anything like that you would be all over it complaining how about it. You have a one track mind and you don’t care about anybody else except the Jews. More people suffered during World War 2 then Jews. The Jews actually made out quite well compared everybody else.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — February 7, 2016 @ 9:49 pm

  2. OT

    Below is a foto of Obama awarding the ‘Medal of Freedom’ to Steven Spielberg — if you view the documentary ‘The Last Days’, produced under the auspices of Spielberg, and are at all fair-minded, you have to conclude that it is full of falsehoods — from the impossible-to-believe tales of Irene Zisblatt et al, to outright liar Paul Parks, who claimed to have helped liberate Dachau.

    Here on this blog: “The Last Days”, a documentary by Steven Spielberg

    Comment by eah — November 25, 2015 @ 8:21 am

  3. You guys have ruined the film for me! I stopped it when the train pulled in to Auschwitz to give it a happy ending

    Comment by Schlageter — November 25, 2015 @ 3:07 am

    • Be reassured, Schlag. The end was not that happy: the convoy of Jewesses survived Auschwitz. Only the kids died and were ‘processed’ through a physically-impossible flaming chimney.

      Comment by hermie — November 25, 2015 @ 6:44 am

      • Im told the Jews were so clever they could tell the nationality of each burnload by the color of the smoke. It’s unfortunate that Spielberg chose to film the movie in black & white and thus miss out on this historical fact.

        on a completely separate note. have I missed something? did Herr Wolf recently change his name from Murmel to Murnel? Is this a new trend? Like “Puff Daddy” becoming “P.Diddy”? enquiring minds want to know…

        Comment by schlageter — November 25, 2015 @ 6:55 am

        • Schlageter wrote: “It’s unfortunate that Spielberg chose to film the movie in black & white and thus miss out on this historical fact.”

          Stevie could have rendered that on screen, for historical accuracy and by respect for the witnesses’ testimonies, as he did with the red coat of the young girl.

          “did Herr Wolf recently change his name from Murmel to Murnel? ”

          He did. Indeed. But to me, he will always remain my dear wolfie anyway.

          Comment by hermie — November 25, 2015 @ 7:23 am

          • When someone writes a comment on my blog, there is a reply button on the bottom of the comment. When I see the comment, there is a button that says Edit. I have the ability to change the post. I have changed all the mispellings of Wolf’s name.

            Comment by furtherglory — November 25, 2015 @ 7:45 am

          • Schindler’s List is a work of fiction, loosely based on a true story.

            I wrote about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/schindlers-list-the-movie-is-fiction-fiction-fiction/

            Comment by furtherglory — November 25, 2015 @ 8:22 am

          • I’m surprised at you squeamishness, Hermie.
            Besides, Schlageter once asked me if there wasn’t a zionists? dick I wouldn’t suck.
            Sorry, don’t remember the exact word.
            Anyway, I was offended by this for two reasons:
            1) I’m not gay.
            2) It showed a serious lack of imagination.
            Now, I have nothing against gay people in general, I actually have a friend who is gay. Schlageter obviously meant this as a slur, that is what I object to.
            Now, my feeling is that if you are going to insult someone it should at least show some type of originality. The issue at hand, of course, is that Schlageter is too fucking stupid to have an imagination. I thought I would help the little Nazi douchebag to show him what an imagination can do when he is not busy fondling himself while watching YouTube videos of Hitler’s speeches.
            I am truly surprised by your reaction, Hermie. After all, don’t you want a minaret made out of Jewish scalps?

            Comment by HCW — November 26, 2015 @ 6:56 pm

            • HCW: “Now, I have nothing against gay people in general, I actually have a friend who is gay. […] I am truly surprised by your reaction, Hermie. After all, don’t you want a minaret made out of Jewish scalps?”

              Obviously a miscommunication and misunderstanding due to different irreconciliable moral standards. I see nothing wrong in minarets made out of Jewish scalps while you patently do. And you see nothing wrong in men cleaning out each others’ colon with male genitals while that makes my last meal go back up through my esophagus.

              Comment by hermie — November 27, 2015 @ 6:15 am

              • Adolph Hitler also had a gay friend, Hermie. His name was Ernst Roehm. The two men were quite close (I am not insinuating that the two men were intimate, they were simply good friends), close enough to use the familiar “du” which as I understand in German is a personal address. Adolph eventually executed Roehm, not due to his sexuality, but due to his insistence that the “National Socialist Revolution” continue after the point where it was politically expedient.
                I look at the person, Hermie. Not the religion, gender or sexual preference. I do that because I am a mature adult, not an adolescent trapped in an adults body.

                Comment by HCW — November 27, 2015 @ 7:11 am

                • Adolf did not persosnally execute Röhm.

                  On June 30 1934, Ernst Röhm, the head of the SA, was arrested during the “Night of the Long Knives,” the infamous purging of all the top officers of the SA. Röhm was taken to Stadelheim prison near Munich, where he was shot at high noon the next day by Theodor Eicke, an SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS, who was then the Commandant of the Dachau concentration camp.

                  As his reward, Eicke was promoted to Inspector of all the concentration camps and head of the SS Totenkopfverbände (Death’s Head unit). It was the Death’s Head unit which eventually made up the guards of all the concentration camps. On their caps, they wore a silver emblem of a skull, the same emblem that was worn by the Waffen-SS. The death’s head was supposed to signify that they were loyal to the death, not that they were murderers. The motto of the SS was “Loyalty is my honor.”

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 27, 2015 @ 7:51 am

                • HCW: “I look at the person, Hermie. Not the religion, gender or sexual preference. I do that because I am a mature adult, not an adolescent trapped in an adults body.”

                  Not the religion, gender… Sounds so corny.😉

                  You do that because you’re a good obedient sheeple trapped in a Jew-owned society. No relation to adulthood.

                  Comment by hermie — November 27, 2015 @ 4:33 pm

              • Sorry, should have “Hitler ordered Roehm’s execution.”
                Executing Roehm certainly helped Eicke’s career, though he did not fire the fatal shot. Eicke and another SS man shot Roehm in his cell after Roehm declined the opportunity to commit suicide. When the initial shots failed to kill Roehm, Eicke signaled to the SS man to fire again. The SS man shot Roehm in the heart. Allegedly Roehm’s last words were “Mein Fuehrer.”

                Comment by HCW — November 27, 2015 @ 8:17 am

              • Hermie, it’s apparent we’ve touched upon another third rail of HCWs weak psyche. Along with “I’m not a Jew! I’m not a Jew!” There is “I’m not queer! I’m not queer!”. Interesting what gets him all riled up. As the old commie (and commie exposer) Whittaker Chambers so eloquently put it: “people don’t get angry when you lie about them, they get angry when you tell the truth about them”.

                So let’s take a moment to reflect upon those like HCW, doubly cursed.

                Comment by Schlageter — November 27, 2015 @ 8:20 am

                • Actually Schlageter if I was gay or a Jew (or both) I would feel quite comfortable with myself.
                  I certainly wouldn’t be driven to idolize an ideology that vanished 70 years ago. Only pathetic, worthless, self-abusing douchebags like yourself see fit to keep alive the memory of a man who managed to lose WW II and condemned his country to be split and occupied for 45 years.
                  I don’t particularly understand it the whole “Hitler worship” thing, particularly since his “genius” cost Germany most of Prussia and condemned millions of German women to be raped by Red Army soldiers but hey, each to his own, right?

                  Comment by HCW — November 27, 2015 @ 8:41 am

              • No, Hermie, not a sheep. A human.

                I used to denigrate those who were gay, Hermie. Then I grew up and figured out that we are all human, that it is stupid to treat those who are different as disgusting or subhuman. I figured out that the color of someone’s skin or how they worship their God is not an indicator of who they are but their actions are what matter.
                I also figured out that hating takes a lot of time and effort and is not worth it.
                So, you can spend your valuable time on this earth hating those different than you and dwelling on non-existent conspiracies and fanged Jews hiding behind every corner. I think I’ll go watch a football game.

                Comment by HCW — November 27, 2015 @ 4:48 pm

                • HCW: “No, Hermie, not a sheep. A human.”

                  I’d rather say a modern American version of a human, i.e. a woman. Great emotional sentivity. Poor thinking abilities…

                  HCW: “I think I’ll go watch a football game.”

                  Probably the best thing you could do. More consistent with your abilities and interests…😉

                  Comment by hermie — November 27, 2015 @ 6:35 pm

              • I watch football because I enjoy it, Hermie.
                I read history because I enjoy that, too.
                I excercise because I like to, I watch TV because I enjoy it and I play with my kids because I enjoy spending time with them.
                What does all of that mean?
                It means that I have many interests and room in my life for a lot of different things.
                What do you have?
                A shadow world dominated by evil Jews/Zionists, peeking around corners to make sure that an evil Bolshevist fanged Jew isn’t getting ready to spring out and clean out your colon with his genitals.
                I’ll take my life over yours, woman or no.

                Comment by HCW — November 27, 2015 @ 8:02 pm

                • HCW: “What do you have?”

                  Don’t worry, Hasbara Cyber Warrior. I also have room in my life for various interests and activities.

                  HCW: “A shadow world dominated by evil Jews/Zionists, peeking around corners to make sure that an evil Bolshevist fanged Jew isn’t getting ready to spring out and clean out your colon with his genitals.”

                  Your Reductio ad absurdum fallacy convinced me. We in fact live in a sunny world where every actor plays his cards honestly and in broad daylight. No conspiracy ever existed. Just have a nice sleep and a good laugh at Howard Wolowitz’s next joke.

                  HCW: “I’ll take my life over yours, woman or no.”

                  I feel you upset. You shouldn’t post comments on the internet while menstruating.😉

                  Comment by hermie — November 29, 2015 @ 6:05 am

        • As soon as I noted Your comments I asked our Webmaster to ensure the correction in the system entering exact spelling of my surname MURMELSTEIN.

          Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — November 25, 2015 @ 10:42 am

          • Murmel…Murnel…potato….potahto….Reinhard…Reinhardt…tomato…tomahto….let’s call the holohoax off!

            Comment by Schlageter — November 26, 2015 @ 5:02 am

            • SCHLAGETER! Your name can be translated as THE BEATENER. Are You a Nazi?

              Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — November 26, 2015 @ 5:56 am

              • “Are you a Nazi?”

                You say it like its a bad thing

                Comment by Schlageter — November 26, 2015 @ 6:44 am

                • To a normal person it is, but for people like you who dream of making sweet love to Hitler and Goebbels in a wild sweaty threesome you proudly wear the name “Nazi.”

                  Comment by HCW — November 26, 2015 @ 5:44 pm

                • HCW: “people like you who dream of making sweet love to Hitler and Goebbels in a wild sweaty threesome”

                  A comment so democratic. Democracies, beside being based on a dumb governance system, are always such holes full of decadent beasts. Disgusting…

                  Comment by hermie — November 26, 2015 @ 6:11 pm

              • Schlag means “whipped cream” http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/schlag

                Maybe his name means a person who makes whipped cream.

                Comment by furtherglory — November 26, 2015 @ 6:53 am

  4. My Murmelstein moment:

    DEAR WEBMASTER, COMMENTATORS OV DIZ BLOG AND PEOPLE OV DE VORLD, only heartless bastards without any consideration for youman veelings could doubt the vords told by dis vooman and by all ze innocent people who suvered so much during vorld var 2. Dee inconsistencies in her testimony are only due to traumatic bad memories. You cannot require a vooman who suvered so much to remember iv she was naked or clothed, bleeding or not bleeding, gassed or shovered. Pleez be kind and understanding with her and her trauma. Clear?
    😉

    Comment by hermie — November 24, 2015 @ 8:46 pm

    • Hermie! I really do not understand Your mocjery.

      Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — November 25, 2015 @ 12:27 am

      • No surprise. Aryans and Jews are incompatible lifeforms. Jewish art revolts me. Jewish humor annoys me. Jewish literature bores me. Jewish sentimentalism leaves me cold. Jewish ideals and methods disgust me. Jewish look repels me. And so on. And so on.

        Comment by hermie — November 25, 2015 @ 2:18 am

        • Herrmie. Do you really thiink to be aryan? Real aryan in Europe are the Baltic peoples the Albanian people and then the GYPSIES persecuted by the Nazis. Look better at your family tree and there will result a Jewish ancestor.

          Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — November 25, 2015 @ 3:50 am

          • You’ve already been spanked with your ridiculous “the Gypsies are Aryans”, wolfie. As I’ve told earlier, the now-highly-mixed-race Aryans of India belong to the highest castes of India, not to the lowest castes. Gypsies’ ancestry is to be found in the lowest castes of India and their ancestors were probably not even allowed to talk to Aryans. The Gypsies are as Aryans as the Congolese negroes are Chinks. So stop repeating your ridiculous claims, unless you like spankings and you want me to quote once again what Hitler so accurately wrote about Jews’ debating techniques.

            Comment by hermie — November 25, 2015 @ 6:31 am

            • Hermie! And the Nazi propaganda technique? Goebbels accurately followed writing of Jewish psicologists, especially the nephew of Sigmund Freud. Look better on Your family tree and perhaps You find out that one of the ancestors had been a Jew converted to Cahtolicism.

              Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — November 25, 2015 @ 10:47 am

              • wolf: “And the Nazi propaganda technique? Goebbels accurately followed writing of Jewish psicologists, especially the nephew of Sigmund Freud.”

                Do you have anything more reliable than the words told by a ‘Yellow journalist’ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism) of the Hearst Corporation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst_Corporationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst) like Karl von Wiegand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Henry_von_Wiegand) to prove that Goebbels indeed used Edward Bernays’ propaganda techniques (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays)? If you don’t, I’m afraid I’ll just have to laugh at another of your baseless assertions. Face the truth. Bernaysian propaganda was in fact good enough for the Allied compulsive liars only.

                “Apart from Hitler himself, perhaps the most fascinating figure of Third Reich Germany is the regime’s chief publicist and spokesman, Joseph Goebbels. He is widely portrayed as a master of lies and deceitful propaganda. But this familiar image, which is particularly entrenched in the United States, is itself a propaganda falsehood.”

                “Goebbels was accordingly able to celebrate his information policy as being not only superior to the enemy’s in its monolithic character, but also of a “seriousness and credibility” which “simply cannot be surpassed.” The boast could be made with some justification: Seen in the long view, Goebbels preached, the best propaganda is that which does no more than serve the truth.” – Helmut Heiber

                http://codoh.com/library/document/2564/

                http://www.ihr.org/other/goebbels2011weber.html

                Chutzpah and shameless bamboozlement are not always enough. Sorry…😉

                Comment by hermie — November 26, 2015 @ 1:06 am

                • Hermie! At war end before surrender some submarinses left Germany for Argentina. One of those carried the data base of the Gestapo about persons converted to Cristian Faith in the two centuries before in order to check the family trees of many Nazis, so in Germany as in some other country. This in order to avoid infiltration of spies in the secret organization. And spies are shot as soon as made out. So it is wise to check the family tree as advised here.
                  Until now the Gestapo Head Quarter is placed in Patagonia from where a system of internet connections reach their agents in Europe. Keep attention and Good Luck. Sincerelly Yours in lasting friendship. W.

                  Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — November 26, 2015 @ 8:32 am

                • Are you claiming there are Nazi organizations still alive today?!?

                  Not impossible or unlikely that my next comment will be posted from Patagonia…

                  Comment by hermie — November 26, 2015 @ 6:16 pm

        • You mean you didn’t like Fiddler on the Roof?????? WTF is wrong with you????????
          I’m joking Hermie, I’ve never seen it. I’m not really fond of musicals, though I did enjoy Les Miserables.
          I don’t know about you but I really like the show The Big Theory. If you watch it, do you just not laugh when the Jewsish character Howard makes a joke?

          Comment by HCW — November 25, 2015 @ 6:15 am

          • I prefer Sheldon’s quirks. But I don’t watch TBBT very often as I avoid American TV shows (Jewish pieces of propaganda as everybody knows) most of time.

            Comment by hermie — November 25, 2015 @ 6:36 am

  5. My heart goes out to all you good folk who live in the United States of America. It would seem that the holocaust industry there has got a whole army of “old wrinklies” on stand-by, ready to tour round the schools and universities reciting their fabricated or heavily embellished stories to the poor captive youngsters.

    None of these old birds can prove where they were back in WW2 – that’s if they were even living in Europe at the time. They’ve either gleaned their stories from out of the thousands of holocaust novels that have been published over the decades; or they have been given their scripts to rehearse by their handlers in the industry itself. They are then ready and primed to regurgitate their lines to gullible journalists who are in the employ of Jewish owned media outlets.

    But alas, the woes of US citizens doesn’t end there, because every town and city worth its name would seem to have one of these holocaust museums within it boundaries. This means, that no one is ever very far away from such an institution, and if anyone travelling along the Interstate Highway becomes suddenly overcome with Gentile guilt and remorse of what their great granddad didn’t do to the poor suffering Jews back before the dawn of history, then they can pull in to the nearest holocaust museum for a session of some good old-fashioned, humility, head-bowing and hand-wringing.

    Comment by Talbot — November 24, 2015 @ 2:55 pm

  6. Those who pubblish similar articles and let such an old person deliver speeches in schools serve very well the negationist division of Shoah business. I wonder whether that person suffers from Alzheimer or other age related mental disorder. The actual story of the Schindler group had been rather worse than shown in movie but no mention about Gas Chambers in the book version of the story.

    Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — November 24, 2015 @ 1:17 pm

    • wolf wrote: “The actual story of the Schindler group had been rather worse than shown in movie”

      If a 9-year-old ghetto boy who never went to Plaszow and Auschwitz says it was, it must be true…😉

      Comment by hermie — November 24, 2015 @ 8:55 pm

      • Herrmie! At difference from You I studied the history of events since I had been nine years old.. I watched the movie and read the book aboit the Schindler case.. Here we have the case of an old person used by persons onlu to make money and wasting paper.

        Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — November 25, 2015 @ 12:36 am

        • And unlike myself, you’ve patently regarded Spielberg’s movie ‘Schindler’s List’ as a documentary and Keneally’s novel ‘Schindler’s Ark’ (awarded as a fiction) as a historical document. Quite telling about your farcical evidential standards…

          Comment by hermie — November 25, 2015 @ 2:28 am

    • Furthermore I wonder whether the proper District Attorney could find matter to prosecute those who let go around that person – suffering from mental disorder due so to her age as to events she passed through – to deliver speeches telling what suggested to tell and not the thruth of what really occured. I would like to know more about the profit made by delivering stupid speeches in schools and thank for more information.

      Comment by Wolf MURNELSTEIN — November 26, 2015 @ 9:48 am

  7. All lies!

    Comment by jrizoli — November 24, 2015 @ 1:03 pm

  8. This woman lives in my town and goes out giving talks to all the schools about her experiences see is a Charlatan passing off her experiences in the camp like there was something bad she survived what’s the problem.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 24, 2015 @ 12:44 pm

    • Are you saying that she was not actually on Schindler’s List? I wrote a previous blog post about the youngest survivor of Schindler’s List who died at the age of 83.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 24, 2015 @ 12:49 pm

      • So what’s the problem here she survived how bad was it for her did she see people being killed in homicidal gas chambers?

        Comment by jrizoli — November 24, 2015 @ 12:56 pm

      • furtherglory wrote: “Are you saying that she was not actually on Schindler’s List? ”

        Schindler’s list, what is that? There never was something like a Schindler’s list. Even the Jew York Times conceded in 2004 that that “there was no Schindler’s List” and “Schindler had almost nothing to do with the list.” There were in fact 9 lists. The first four lists were drawn up primarily by Marcel Goldberg, a corrupt Jewish security police officer and assistant to an SS officer in charge of transporting Jews. (Goldberg was later accused of accepting bribes and of favoritism.) Schindler suggested a few names, but did not know most of the people on the lists. The authors of the other five lists are unknown. So the name ‘Goldberg’s list(s)’ seems more appropriate and historically correct than the name ‘Schindler’s List’.

        And the real motive for such lists was money (wealthy Jews could bribe Goldberg in order to go to camps where labor was easier and living conditions softer), not the will to save a few Jewish lives from an alleged general extermination as claimed in the movie ‘Schindler’s List’. The legend of “the list” arose partly from Schindler himself, to win reparations for his wartime losses and protect himself from prosecution for “war crimes” (because he had exploited jewish forced labor during the war).

        http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Schindler/OOF1104.html

        Comment by hermie — November 26, 2015 @ 1:41 am


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