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November 29, 2015

Holocaust survivor who ate grass between the rails on the train tracks to Auschwitz

Filed under: Dachau, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 5:40 pm

Today, I read a story about Holocaust survivors, which you can read in full here.

The following quote is from the news story:

One woman was packed into a boxcar bound for Auschwitz. So crowded, no one could sit down. People began to starve. The woman, who was a girl then, was extraordinarily tall, with very long arms. There was a hole in the boxcar floor. When the train would stop, she was able to reach her long arms down through the hole and pull up handfuls of grass.

That’s how she survived.

By eating grass.

Railroad tracks usually don't have grass growing between the rails

Railroad tracks usually don’t have grass growing between the rails

This story caught my attention because, as a child, I lived in a house near the railroad tracks that went through my town. I used to put pennies on the track, so that the trains would flatten them.  This was probably a dangerous thing to do, since this might have derailed a train.  But nothing happened, and here I am today, writing a blog.

From my childhood experience, I know that grass does not grow in the middle of the tracks, as long as there are trains traveling on the tracks.  When the tracks are no longer being used, there might be some grass growing between the rails.

I took this photo of some abandoned tracks going into the SS camp at Dachau

I took this photo of some abandoned tracks going into the SS camp at Dachau

 

Another photo which I took of the same tracks at Dachau

Another photo which I took of the same tracks at Dachau

This quote is from the same news article:

World War II ended 70 years ago; children who survived the Holocaust are now in their 80s, adults in their 90s. Nearly 140,000 survivors live in the U.S.

In 15 years, most survivors will be dead.

That’s why Pregulman — who graduated from McCallie School, splits his time between Memphis and Denver, is the son of Merv and Helen Pregulman and grandson of Garrison and Goldie Siskin, founders of Siskin Children’s Institute — began his portrait project, taking survivor photographs as an act of memory and honor.

“To be sure they are not forgotten,” he said.

I believe that stories like this do more harm than good for the Holocaust industry.

 

43 Comments »

  1. There is a huge financial advantage to being a Holocaust Survivor. Likewise today in the Alice in Wonderland state of Germany there is a huge financial advantage in being a ” Syrian Refugee “.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/08/growing-concern-over-trade-in-fake-and-stolen-syrian-passports
    In both cases many are frauds.

    Comment by peter — December 1, 2015 @ 3:59 am

    • I thought I’d read the bizarre atrocity stories when I was in high school. Then I learned more in the past decade such as the prisoner being burned gave up certain colors of smoke, depending on who they were (like pink for homosexuals) – this has seriously raised the – “how-ridiculous-how-far-can-you-go” bar. The biggest point is that Treblinka was only in operation 8 months, being a mere transit station. NONE OF THE ABOVE COULD HAVE HAPPENED – even in the realm of possibility!

      Comment by Diane King — December 1, 2015 @ 8:54 am

      • You are mixing up Holocaust tales. The smoke color tale is from Birkenau survivors – Auschwitz II. Treblinka 2 is the one that was said to have gassed, buried, dug up, and cremated on outdoor railroad track pyres about 700,000 – 1,000,000 million people. It was in operation for 15 months. Treblinka 1, down the tracks a ways, was a quarry.

        Comment by blake121666 — December 1, 2015 @ 6:27 pm

        • Regardless, IT’S ALL BOGUS! THAT’s my point!

          Comment by Diane King — December 2, 2015 @ 8:36 am

    • PETER. You too are writing on matters You know exactly nothing about. From the Liberation until the early fiftthies Shoah survivors had to rely on assistance of Jewish Charity – JOINT. German Regions and Austria iussed laws providing some form of reparation for victims of Nazi persecutions but, obviously, the had to be application to be submitted and then processed. So, actually, payments started in late fifthies. Amounts granted clearly were helpfull but a poor reparation for damages and losses suffered; but it had been what Austria and Germany could grant. By time passing on the amounts of yearly payments granted lost their value, especially with the estalishing of the EURO instead of the Mark. So many survivors still alive hardly make end meet. Your cruel ignorant irony is only hurting.

      Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 2, 2015 @ 9:31 am

    • PETER! You know nothing about this and other matters. Indeed from 1945 until the early fifthies Shoah survivors had to rely on the Jewish Charity JOINT. The Austrian and German regional laws on reparations stated the need of personal applications to be processed. First payments occured in the last fifthies. for amount hardly meeting losses and dammages suffered but that had been Austria and Germany could grant. Due to currency events often the annual payments granted lost part of value and a certain number of survivors hardly makes end meet. Your malicious comment shows only anti-Semitism.in defaming unfortunate people.

      Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 2, 2015 @ 9:45 am

  2. FURTHERGLORY. You consider the stories of survivors with more prejudice than event linked critical attitude. Consider that on that railway track hardly transited more than one train a day. So grass could grow and some one could catch and eat it. At any rate there is no Holocaust Industry but, worse, a SHOAH BUSINESS with the two strictly linked divisions of the TEARP PRESSING and the NEGATIONISM.

    Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — November 30, 2015 @ 8:23 am

    • Auschwitz had more than one train on the tracks that led to the camp.

      That was because Auschwitz was the location of the main railroad yard in Europe. Auschwitz was the European equivalent of North Platte, Nebraska, which is the largest railroad hub in America.

      When railroad lines were first built in the 19th century, the little town of Auschwitz, at the junction of three empires, became the crossroads of Europe. There were 44 train lines coming into Auschwitz, making it at one time a larger railroad hub than Penn Station in New York City.

      It was because Auschwitz was such an important railroad junction that a camp for migrant workers was built in a suburb of the town in 1916; seasonal farm workers from all over Europe were sent from Auschwitz to the large German estates. The migrant worker camp, with its beautiful brick barracks buildings, was the place that eventually became the Auschwitz I concentration camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 30, 2015 @ 8:35 am

      • I don’t see how she was able to reach that far down. Clearly the person who told this “whopper” has no idea the height of the wheels on the rail car. Add to that the additional height that comes into play,when they are mounted on the car. She said there was “no room to sit down.” Now I don’t care how long her arms are. If she can’t sit down, how the hell is she gonna reach the grass? Wilt “the stilt” Chamberlin didn’t even have arms that long and he was a helluva B Ball player. Something ain’t kosher here.

        Comment by Tim — March 10, 2016 @ 8:44 pm

  3. I read the full story by David Cook, and he writes that “nearly 140,000 survivors live in the United States”. Good Lord! – isn’t that a rather high number who are still living some 70 years after an event in which it is alleged that there was a deliberate, systematic policy to exterminate a whole race of people? And that’s just the United States – how many are still alive in all the other countries around the world? It appears to me that if this extermination program existed at all, then it was not very successful, because obviously hundreds of thousands – running into millions – actually lived on for decades afterwards!

    Mr Cook also states that “the US government estimates that one-fourth of all survivors live in poverty”. WHAT! – how can this be, if the German government has been paying large amounts of compensation over the last seventy years. Why have these people been left in poverty? Have the Jewish organisations who hold the treasure trove been syphoning off some of the bounty for their own enrichment? Surely not.

    I wonder if Mr Murnelstein is one of these unfortunate survivors who live in poverty, or whether he receives his pay-check regularly each year. If it is the latter, then he should really open his pocket-book and help those survivors who are less fortunate than himself.

    Comment by Talbot — November 29, 2015 @ 10:12 pm

    • I was not surprised when I read that 140,000 survivors live in the USA. Imagine how many survivors lived in America right after the war. The 140,000 number is remarkable considering that children under the age of 15 were immediately gassed. The 140,000 survivors still living today were obviously children during the war years.

      Every year near Christmas time, there are ads on TV for $25 donations to buy boxes of food for the starving Jews in Israel. These people are desperately fighting over food. I don’t understand why the rich Jews in America and Israel don’t help these poor starving people.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 30, 2015 @ 6:58 am

      • Oh – so every year at Christmas, in the USA, our Hebrew friends apply the old reliable emotional, sentimental sob stories about poverty-stricken Israelis in order to get the Gentiles to send in $25 each. What a brilliant scam to employ at Christmas-time, when normal people are inspired to give help to those less-fortunate than themselves.

        And why should there be any poverty-stricken Israelis in the first place. That nation receives huge amounts of cash from both Germany and the USA – for some unknown reason! Can’t they use some of this large bounty to pay for the food parcels. And what about the rich Jewish bankers, Hollywood moguls, book publishers and media tycoons – couldn’t they organise themselves to provide enough money for charity towards the poor suffering Israelis?

        Comment by Talbot — November 30, 2015 @ 11:30 am

        • Exactly. Just see who benefits from the disasters, for one thing (like 9-11), who is getting a bucket-load of money now and why and how! Follow the money – you’ll find out the truth!

          Comment by Diane King — December 1, 2015 @ 8:55 am

    • TALBOT! I am living in Italy in retirement. I got from the Repubblic of Austria that – and not more – what provided by a law of 1947 in favour of all those who suffered Nazi persecution: Austrian Nationalists, Socialists, Comunists and, at the end, Jews (so the believing as those having only Jewish ancestry) and Gypsies. Events my Family passed through deprived me from many right educational opportunities and so I am in a modest position. And now I am fed up with all Your malicious statements about thing You do not know at all.

      Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — November 30, 2015 @ 8:13 am

      • @Wolf Murnelstein

        You say it was a law of 1947 that decreed restitution and compensation for those who had suffered unfairly during the Third Reich. I certainly don’t object to that. But I don’t think it was ever the intention of the German and Austrian governments that this should be an on-going system of reparations that lasted for ever – whereby people still receive payments some 70 years later!

        To my way of thinking, these compensation payments were only designed to help people get over the initial trauma of what they endured, and to get them back on their feet again, so that they could re-enter society in a fit, healthy and financially stable frame of mind. Therefore the bulk of all these compensation payments should have ceased decades ago.

        Just look at these Hungarian “survivors” for instance. Yes, they had a rotten time from the Summer of 1944 until the Spring of 1945. In other words – less than a year. And yet, each and every one of them gets 70 years compensation for a few months of hardship.

        Comment by Talbot — November 30, 2015 @ 11:59 am

        • Talbot! For Austria the system of the law of 1947 had been the only bearable one and we Jews had not been prefered over Austrian Nationalist as we all had lost a lot. We suffered much more than “unfairly”; here too You are making statements on matters without knowing anything about. Have You any idea what it had been walking in Vienna bearing the Yellow Star or staying in front of an SS’? Or being questioned by three of the worst associates of Eichmann as occured me at not even nine years? I note that in UK and USA there is an awfull lack of knowledge of real Shoah history. The problem concerns the proper ministers of Austria and Germany and certainly is not Yout business. Before making statemenst on Shoah sit down and study history; when You wish I can help with my knowledge of things.

          Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — November 30, 2015 @ 2:22 pm

          • Why should I regard you as an expert on the “Shoah” over anybody else, Mr Murnelstein? Fair enough, your knowledge of what happened in Austria after the Anschluss might be worth listening to; as would your time spent incarcerated in Theresienstadt during the war itself. You might even have some interesting information to impart of what life was like for you, and the millions of other refugees wandering around Europe in the years following the end of the war.

            But to be perfectly honest, all your knowledge about the Shoah itself is pure hearsay – just verbal assertions and unverified claims that you have received from others after the war was over. And the people making these claims may or may not be telling the truth – we just don’t know, because there was never any serious attempt by the victorious powers of WW2 to carry out a thorough examination of these camps and sites to ascertain the truth.

            Very little – if anything – was spoken about “gas chambers” at the Nuremburg Tribunals, they just seemed to concentrate on mass pits where people were massacred by machine-gun fire. And they always seemed to produce a witness “survivor” to these massacres (invariably female) who managed to climbed naked out of the tangled bodies and hide in a barn or under a dung-heap for several days without food or water.

            This is the kind of slop that was served up to us right from the word go – and the wretched holocaust industry, with all its razz-a-m- atazz, has kept alive for the world to wallow indulgently in over the decades. It is way past time that we stopped teaching our youngsters a whole load of second world war lies and propaganda as defined, sacred truth!

            Comment by Talbot — November 30, 2015 @ 5:09 pm

            • TALBOT! First of all I am considered a “special child survivor” for my position as son of the last among the few surviving Judenaeltester. Then, from the Liberation on I wanted to know why and how events occured. Unfortunately it was impossible for me to write my doctor dissertation on ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL CAUSES OF WWII as the professor for economic history had been the clerical-fascist-antisemite Fanfani.Then.my opinion that things had been caused by the foolish Versailles Treaty even today seems not politically correct. On the web side of this site there are several essays I wrote. In an essay in Italian I had shown that the roots of the Shoah are quite deep and go as long as to the espulsion of the Jews from Spain. I do not rely on hearsay but on historical studies evaluated critically. But, sincerelly, i note that You rely to much to hearsay about events and do not take account of historical facts. I should lijke to send You an essay about European conflicts leading to WWI, WWII and the Shoah wich I submitted to FURTHERGLORY but unfortunately not pubblished on the web side.

              Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 1, 2015 @ 1:24 am

              • Again, Wolf, you are wasting your time. Talbot, like any new convert or a man newly in love, refuses to see anything that would take away the warm comfort of his new belief system.
                He discovered that there was a brand new world where one can comfort themselves with the knowledge that all of life’s woes can be blamed on one group of people:
                The Jews.
                Once he did that no one can shake him from this conclusion, because to do so it would complicating the world he, Hermie, Peter, Jim Rizoli and others that come here live in.
                Why look at the world as a real place when one can live in a world populated by scary monsters that make all real cares go away?

                Comment by HCW — December 1, 2015 @ 9:07 am

                • HCW
                  When you read the book the Auschwitz Myth by Wilhelm Staglich which you will understand the holohoax scam and what really happened. Right now you don’t see the forest through the trees. You only have your viewpoint and you at this point in time anyway have refused to accept those that have seen things really seen things not second third fourth hand information being passed down from person to person over 75 years

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 1, 2015 @ 9:12 am

                • HCW! Passing through shocking events leaves psicological – some time also psichiatric – effect so on the survivor as on his descendants. The above applies to survivors so of the Holocaust as of the War on battlefields in Russia, Balcans or Normandie. I guess that the phantom of an allmighty Jewish Power is due to the beliefs of grandparents who too lived in those times. and got drunk with the Goebbels propaganda about Jews and Western Plutocracies. In Germany the role of grandfathers in the development of their grandchildren had been already studied. Our “friends” Hermie, Talbot, Peter, Schlageter and others maybe examples. And this should be considered when teaching the Hollocaust History. Best.

                  Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 1, 2015 @ 9:45 am

              • I didn’t know you were an economics professor. What is your explanation for the hyperinflations? Did it have anything to do with paying off the Versailles Treaty with worthless Marks?

                Comment by blake121666 — December 1, 2015 @ 6:37 pm

                • Blake 121686 I said to have a degree in Economics and Commerce in Italy, never to be a professo. After WWI Germany had to pay the foolish reparations in hard currencies and so in 1922/23 the Mark lost all its value.

                  Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 2, 2015 @ 3:00 am

            • It would appear that females climbing out of pits full of dead bodies after being machine-gunned was a very popular activity during the holocaust.

              According to the website “www.Holocaust Research Project.org”, there was a massacre site at Ponary just outside the city of Vilnius, and on 31 August 1941, a woman named Sonia managed to climb out of a heap of corpses and returned wounded and dishevelled to the city where she told her story to an unnamed doctor. A few days later, six other women are known to have escaped from the very same pit – no less! Then, in October there were several more women who returned alive from out of a machine-gun pit, including one named Sara Menkes, who recounted her story (to whom – we don’t know). But we then have to wait until the year 1943 before another escapee (this time male) returned from the dead to give his testimony to the world.

              We now turn to Google, and type in “Dina Pronicheva, Babi Yar” to read the sworn testimony given at the war crimes trial held in Kiev by Madam Pronicheva herself. Our “Dina” was not only lying in the machine-gun pit, but was actually picked up by an SS man who was walking on top of the bodies finishing off the wounded with his pistol. But plucky old Dina played dead, and the SS man struck her with his fist, but she managed not to flinch, and thus survived!

              Once again on Google, we can type in “The Testimony Of Ludwika Fiszer”. She was machine-gunned with her daughter into a pit near the town of Poniatowa in November 1943. (This alleged massacred formed part of the absurd “Operation Harvest Festival” series of killings centred around the Maidanek labour camp). Ludwicka’s daughter was killed, but she herself climbed naked out of the pit, met up with two other naked women who had also survived, and off they went together down road, calling in at various houses to see if they could purchase some old clothes to wear. Apparently, nobody opened their front doors to the naked trio, but from the upstairs windows, all kinds of disused clothing and underwear came flying out.

              Lastly, we turn to a female named Rivka Yosselevska, who appeared at the Eichmann trial in 1961 to give sworn testimony of how she escaped naked from a pit full of naked bodies. She had a very difficult time in escaping because all the half-dead corpses – including all the Rabbis – were reaching out and grabbing at her, pulling her down into the sea of corpses. Oh, by the way, Rivka also recounted a story of how she witnessed geysers of Jewish blood issuing forth from out of the ground.

              Comment by Talbot — December 1, 2015 @ 1:28 pm

    • Kudos, Talbot! The ‘shakers and movers’ definitely have THEIR share to affect changes in ANY country they choose and their sights are on the U.S. and the Western world.

      Comment by Diane King — December 2, 2015 @ 8:38 am

  4. Haha were you channeling your child brain when you wrote putting a penny on the track “might have derailed a train”? Don’t worry fortunately it’s not THAT easy to do.

    Comment by Fritz Fantom — November 29, 2015 @ 7:31 pm

    • I remember being told, as a child, that a penny on the tracks could derail a train. That’s why it was so much fun to do. So was standing on the tracks in front of an oncoming train, then jumping off the tracks at the last minute.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 30, 2015 @ 7:03 am

  5. “There are so many stories,” said John Pregulman. GOT THAT RIGHT! Like you said, JR, 3 years in Treblinka? Didn’t happen. Any who were there spent a few hours, 2 days tops, but NOT 3 years. It was only open 8 months!!!! TELL ME ANOTHER ONE!!!

    Comment by Diane King — November 29, 2015 @ 6:26 pm

    • It was only open 8 months!!!!

      ‘A Year in Treblinka’, by Jankiel Wiernik.

      Comment by eah — November 29, 2015 @ 9:50 pm

      • Jankel Weirnik seems like a really reliable witness dontyerthink?

        ???It often happened that an arm or a leg fell off when we tied straps around them in order to drag the bodies away???
        Freshly killed … decomposed to the point of bits falling off?
        woman leaps 10 ft fence ?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankiel_Wiernik#A_Year_in_Treblinka

        On his arrival at Treblinka aboard the Holocaust train from Warsaw, Wiernik was selected to work rather than be immediately killed.[4] Wiernik’s first job with the Sonderkommando required him to drag corpses from the gas chambers to mass graves. Wienik was traumatized by his experiences. He later wrote in his book: “”It often happened that an arm or a leg fell off when we tied straps around them in order to drag the bodies away.”[.”[5] He remembered the horrors of the enormous pyres, where “10,000 to 12,000 corpses were cremated at one time.” He wrote: “The bodies of women were used for kindling” while Germans “toasted the scene with brandy and with the choicest liqueurs, ate, caroused and had a great time warming themselves by the fire.”[6] Wiernik described small children awaiting so long in the cold for their turn in the gas chambers that “their feet froze and stuck to the icy ground” and noted one guard who would “frequently snatch a child from the woman’s arms and either tear the child in half or grab it by the legs, smash its head against a wall and throw the body away.”[7] At other times “children were snatched from their mothers’ arms and tossed into the flames alive.” However, he was also encouraged by the occasional scenes of brave resistance.[8] In chapter 8, he describes seeing a naked woman escape the clutches of the guards and leap over a ten foot high barbed wire fence unscathed. When accosted by a Ukrainian guard on the other side, she wrestled his machine gun out of his grasp and shot two guards before being killed herself.

        When Wiernik’s profession as a carpenter was accepted, he was put to work constructing various camp structures including additional gas chambers. Given his skills, Wiernik was not subjected to the same treatment others were and he no longer had to handle dead bodies. He attributed his survival to building structures needed in the camp. Given the shortage of skilled construction workers accustomed to the killing process, Wiernik moved between the two divisions of the camp frequently. As a result, he became an important contact between the camp zones when the revolt was being planned.

        Comment by greg — November 29, 2015 @ 10:01 pm

      • Searching the USHMM site for “Wiernik”, you get some results — Treblinka Death Camp Revolt is one of them — the foto below has the caption “Group photo of participants in the Treblinka uprising” — in the text it says Most of the Committee’s members, including Galewski, Bloch, and Kurland, perished during the uprising.

        a really reliable witness

        Of course he’s a fraud and a liar — but he’s referenced in Hilberg’s book, and testified at the Eichmann trial.

        Comment by eah — November 29, 2015 @ 10:34 pm

      • The Treblinka ‘reunion’ foto is interesting — the same foto can be found on this page — part of the caption is “Samuel Rajzman sits in the middle of a Treblinka Reunion group photo in 1944” — further text names all the men in the foto (below) — so the ‘reunion’ apparently took place in 1944 — of course the war was still ongoing, but supposedly in the midst of all the chaos and horror of that, these apparently well-dressed and healthy men, none of whom seem to be in uniform, were not only able to find each other, or be found, but they were also able to come together somewhere for a ‘reunion’, including a foto opp — I find that a little suspicious.

        I would appreciate any additional info on this foto — eg where it was taken, etc — anything.

        Comment by eah — November 30, 2015 @ 3:32 am

      • I was not familiar with Samuel Rajzman — a quick search turns up some info on him — a few interesting links:

        Rescuing Israel: The Holocaust – The Gas Chambers — see also news item below.

        Apparently in Feb, 1946, he testified about Treblinka at the IMT: Trial at Nuremberg 1945-1946: Testimony of one Treblinka survivor — there is an interesting summary of what he said, and just as importantly, what he did not say.

        He is also mentioned in a news item; facsimile reproduced below — The article in the Jewish Western Bulletin, 24 Nov., 1944, “Nazis Slew 2,700,000 Jews in Tremblinka” is based on a report written by a single Jewish witness, Samuel Rajzman — he seems to claim the Nazis killed 1m Russian Jews at Treblinka:

        Comment by eah — November 30, 2015 @ 3:49 am

    • I wrote about Treblinka on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Treblinka/introduction.html

      There were TWO Treblinka camps. One was a labor camp and one was a death camp. There were also Sonderkommando Jews who stayed at the death camp for a long time, doing the work involved in killing their fellow Jews.

      Comment by furtherglory — November 30, 2015 @ 7:08 am

      • There were NO death camps at Treblinka it was a transit camp….All the witnesses were liars who said tens of thousands were killed there a day……..It was operating from July 1942 to August 1943 not possible to do it.
        It was a small camp. People were shuffled through it to be cleaned up to be sent to other camps.
        The reports that tens of thousands of people were killed there is just plain nonsense. They had no facilities to even do something like that and also where are all the bodies upward to 850,000 buried that they say were supposedly killed there. Nothing to show the remains anywhere. Read Jurgen Grafs book Treblinka Extermination Camp or Transit Camp….you can download the pdf of it at Holocausthandbooks.com, holocausthandbooks.com/dl/08-t.pd
        Carlo Mottogno has published 16 books alone in this handbook series about the camps….plenty of reading to give you the facts.

        Article…
        http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html

        Article…
        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zionvideo04.htm

        Read the Holocaust Exterminationist BS…which by the way they can’t back up with reliable sources……plenty of liars though….
        Hard to believe people believe this crap.

        THE END OF THE TREBLINKA CAMPS
        http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005193

        The Germans had ordered that Treblinka II be dismantled in the fall of 1943. From July 1942 through November 1943, the Germans killed between 870,000 and 925,000 Jews at the killing center. Treblinka I, the forced-labor camp, continued operations until late July 1944. While the killing center was in operation, some of the arriving Jews were selected and transferred to Treblinka I, while Jews too weak to work at Treblinka I were periodically sent to Treblinka II to be killed. During late July 1944, with Soviet troops moving into the area, the camp authorities and the Trawniki-trained guards shot the remaining Jewish prisoners, between 300 and 700, and hastily dismantled and evacuated the camp. Soviet troops overran the site of both labor camp and killing center during the last week of July 1944.

        Comment by jrizoli — November 30, 2015 @ 7:54 am

        • I started my website in 1997. I wrote in True Believer terms as much as I could. I didn’t want to make my website a Holocaust Denier website that no one would read.

          Comment by furtherglory — November 30, 2015 @ 8:16 am

          • You have a great site and should be proud of yourself.
            I’d rather have one reasonable person reading my site than 100 who can’t reason for themselves what the true facts are.
            There are plenty of these people around. So present the facts as they are and don’t worry about the knuckleheads that can add right.
            The holocaust is the biggest insurance scam in the history of mankind. The six million victims have to be there because the more of them the more money paid out in fake insurance claims. Thats where the problem starts and then you go backwards to see how they falsified the numbers to make the claim right.
            They had to make the story work with six million victims and all other facts are irrelevant.
            The Jews know how to suck every penny out of a country and they have been doing it for years. No one steps up to the plate to expose their scam because they will be labeled a Holocaust Denier or anti-Semitic and that will be it for them especially if they are a big company. Once the lie is in place then the insurance companies pass on the cost to the people. So WE the people are the real losers.

            Comment by jrizoli — November 30, 2015 @ 10:08 am

            • Further Glory, if you dedicated your site to TRUTH IN HISTORY, if you will and feature the holocaust issues, you would most DEFINITELY be promoted. Jim and I would promote you on FB and other places. You’d have a swarm of supporters. Champion the truth, my friend! Truth lovers will rally. Don’t distinguish one sector of truth telling from another – the tyrants don’t.

              Comment by Diane King — December 2, 2015 @ 8:54 am

          • Further Glory, if you dedicated your site to TRUTH IN HISTORY, if you will and feature the holocaust issues, you would most DEFINITELY be promoted. Jim and I would promote you on FB and other places. You’d have a swarm of supporters. Champion the truth, my friend! Truth lovers will rally. Don’t distinguish one sector of truth telling from another – the tyrants don’t. (meant to put this under, as a response to your posting).

            Comment by Diane King — December 2, 2015 @ 8:59 am

      • Good link to Calo Mottognos books….Time to learn the truth! The fairy tale Holocaust Exterminationist story is getting a little stale.
        Of course people a dumber than sticks and will believe anything they are told as they seem to be incapable to do their own research these days.

        http://www.whale.to/b/mattogno_h.html

        JR

        CCFIILE.COM

        Comment by jrizoli — November 30, 2015 @ 8:03 am

        • Mr. Rizoli:
          I wanted to let you know that I am in the process of reading the book you suggested.
          I’m reading it in 10-20 page chunks.
          Here are some issues:
          First, the book itself is almost 40 years old. This is not a comment about the age of the author, this is a comment about the information he is providing. It predates the fall of the Soviet Union and the opening of Soviet archives. It
          predates Van Pelt’s examination of the gas chambers at Birkenau, Rees’s examination of documents and witnesses and other investigations done in the 90’s and 2000’s. I’ll even toss in Leuchter’s and Rudolph’s examinations plus other revisionist research (see, I can be fair).
          Second, I’m still trying to figure out why the Soviets and their issues with the West would agree to such a cover up. I’m afraid that doesn’t make any sense.
          Last, the author tossed out out the whole “four million dead” argument. The problem with that is the Soviets and Poles never said “Jews” that is an assumption. What they said was “people” because they wanted to downplay the “Jewishness” of the dead to make a political statement.
          Never fear, I will continue to soldier on, I gave my word that I would read the book.

          Comment by HCW — December 1, 2015 @ 10:57 am

  6. We have to get a Ripley’s Believe It or Not museum to put all these stories into.

    Comment by jrizoli — November 29, 2015 @ 6:08 pm


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