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December 10, 2015

Prepare yourself for a new Holocaust movie in theaters on December 18th

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, movies — Tags: , , , , — furtherglory @ 7:59 am

You have only one week to prepare yourself for a new block-buster movie coming out in theaters on December 18, 2015. The movie is about the Sonderkommando Jews who burned the bodies of the Jews after they were gassed.

I wrote about this on this previous blog post:

You can read about the movie at

This quote is from the article about the movie:

The film portrays an aspect of the Holocaust that has yet to be explored.

“Two out of three Jews were murdered in the Holocaust in Europe,” explained Rohrig. “Most or all I have seen in movies are always about the lucky third one. These movies are survival tales and we wanted to make a movie not about the exception but the norm and the norm was death.”

It’s true. All we ever hear about are the Jews who survived the Holocaust, not the names of the Jews who were gassed.   The Nazis were no fools — they didn’t keep the names of the Jews who were gassed.

There are still numerous survivors, who are out on the lecture circuit telling their unique stories about how they survived and are still alive today.

The following quote is from the news article:

Begin quote

Son of Saul, being released in the United States on December 18th, is like no other Holocaust film. Winner of the Grand Prix at the Cannes Film Festival, the film continues to wow critics, as it tells the story of Saul Auslander, who has the dubious distinction of being part of the Sonderkommando at Auschwitz.

“Their lives were way more difficult than those of the prisoners,” Röhrig, who prefers to be called Rafi, told The Jewish Link. “They were recruited upon their arrival at Auschwitz. The Nazis promised them a better life, told them they would live in a heated area but they didn’t give them any advance notice or an accurate job description.”

That job was to usher unknowing victims into the gas chambers and after their deaths, readying the room for the next group to be annihilated.

“They would separate the inter-tangled bodies, search them for valuables, cut the women’s hair, burn the bodies, pulverize the bigger bones that were still somewhat intact, take the ashes and dispose of them in the river,” said Röhrig. “The crematorium did not stop. There were day shifts. There were night shifts. And then every four months, they themselves were gassed.”   End quote

Wait a minute!  The Nazis threw ashes into a river at Auschwitz?  I don’t think so!  The Nazis were all about preserving the environment, even before this became popular.

The Sola river that runs through the town of Auschwitz

The Sola river that runs through the town of Auschwitz

The SS men swam in the river that runs through the town of Auschwitz.  People in the town washed their clothes in this river.  Do you really think that Hitler would have allowed the ashes of millions of Jews to contaminate the rivers?

I previously blogged about the disposal of the ashes at Auschwitz-Birkenau at



  1. I’ll watch something with a bit more intellectual value. Deep Throat with Linda Lovelace. Maybe watch a 3 stooges marathon

    Comment by Tim — December 16, 2015 @ 10:51 am

  2. “LIBBY ANNE JUSTICE, TALBOT.. All the so called REVISIONIST HISTORIAN SCHOLARS fail to answer the question where the great Jewish comunity of CENTRAL AND EAST EUROPE disappeared.” They dispersed to Palestine and all over the globe, but where they really wanted to be was America. It was their real “Shining City on the Hill” because the pickings were so much better there than in bombed out Europe.

    “I’ve recently bought Frederick Morgan’s 1961 autobiography Peace and War, a Soldier’s Life, in which he goes into detail of how the UNRRA was essentially a Zionist tool, how Jews from East Europe were smuggled into post-war Germany, mainly the US Zone, to ‘Jews Only’ Displaced Persons camps, and were then evacuated to Palestine:

    …Not only did one admire the skill of the Zionist propaganda campaign, but even more so the whole organization of the ceaseless movement of great numbers of these poor people across war-torn Germany, wherein legitimate movement was a highly problematical business, down into Austria into Italy and Yugoslavia for shipment, often in circumstances of terrifying danger, to Palestine.”

    Here are some other books about what General Fredrick Morgan called “The 2nd Exodus.”

    1. Deemed Suspect: A Wartime Blunder – Eric Koch, Methhuen, l980
    2. Wallachian Years: Politico-Cultural Chronical of a Youth 1940-1960 – Bernard Politzer, Balaban Publishers, 2001
    3.Catastrophe to Power: Holocaust Survivors and the Emergence of Israel – Ildith Zertel, U. of California Press 1998
    4. Safe Among the Germans: – Liberated Jews After WWII, Ruth Gay, Yale U. Press, 2002
    5. In the Shadow of the Holocaust- Yosef Grodinsky, Common Courage Press, 2004

    I recommend No. 5 because it’s a chronicle of how badly Jews treated eachother in the concentration camps (Communist Jews bullying and robbing Fiddler on the Roof Jews ) and in the DP camps (Zionist Jews Shanghaiing Grand Hotel Budapest Jews onto the leaky scows that sailed under false flags for false destinations carring passengers with false passports and false visas). There are two Holocaust demographic studies prepared by revisionists, but I’ll not list them because if you can parse the woe in these dreary tales down to it’s supercilious essence you’ll have a good headstart on getting this puzzle put together.

    Comment by who dares wings — December 11, 2015 @ 5:06 am

    • Thanks for this comment and the reading recommendations.

      Comment by eah — December 12, 2015 @ 1:00 am

  3. Im waiting for Hollywood and its European counterparts to release an onslaught of new films on every angle and aspect of the Bolshevik Revolution, the “Russian ” civil war, the holodomor, the purges, and the Gulags.

    I mean is there an epoch less covered in film than this?

    Wonder why? Could it be that many in Hollywood have surnames eerily similar to the perpetrators of those crimes? Nah, that couldn’t be…just a canard. Like predatory capitalism, organ trafficking, porn, multiculturalism, ecstasy, etc etc

    Comment by Schlageter — December 11, 2015 @ 2:01 am

    • Oddly on this I agree with you, Schlageter. I would like to see more documentaries, programs, even movies dealing with the subjects you describe.
      The problem is that most audiences in the west are more familiar with the Holocaust than the subjects you listed.
      The rest of your comment, the part about pornography and organ trafficking, I’m simply going to dismiss as the usual Nazi bullshit you vomit out.

      Comment by HCW — December 11, 2015 @ 9:52 am

      • I’m simply going to dismiss

        From the ‘Jewish Quarterly’ — Winter, 2004 — by Nathan Abrams — Jews in the American porn industry

        A story little told is that of Jews in Hollywoodʼs seedier cousin, the adult film industry. Perhaps weʼd prefer to pretend that the ʻtriple-exthnicsʼ didnʼt exist, but thereʼs no getting away from the fact that secular Jews have played (and still continue to play) a disproportionate role throughout the adult film industry in America. Jewish involvement in pornography has a long history in the United States, as Jews have helped to transform a fringe subculture into what has become a primary constituent of Americana.


        Comment by eah — December 11, 2015 @ 10:10 am

        • Nah, I’m just going to dismiss it.
          BTW, any thoughts on my “Hug a Denier” business idea?
          If you don’t like uncle Adolph hugging Leuchter we can change it to Irving or Zundel. I think we have a real opportunity to fill a unique business niche. All those people I see crying on-line about the poor “thought crime” prisoners would eat it up. We could make some serious shekels and go into the pornography business or illegal organ trafficking business. Toss in some white slavery and we could drive those dirty Jews right out.
          Anyway you let me know,
          This also is my reply to what you wrote below about “soliloquy.”
          You’re a fussy little bastard, aren’t you

          Comment by HCW — December 11, 2015 @ 10:25 am


              Must be neo-nah tzees, can’t be G*ds chosen people

              Comment by Schlageter — December 12, 2015 @ 4:10 am

              • First, did you actually read the articles yourself? Or did you let someone summarize them for you?
                You recently made an argument based upon a book review on something you didn’t bother to read yourself, that’s why I’m asking.
                Second, yawn. If I was interested then I would take the time to fact check the articles but I have other things to do today.
                Last, what, no acknowledgement that I actually agreed with you on something?

                Comment by HCW — December 12, 2015 @ 7:18 am

                • The articles are posted for all to see. That you are “too busy” and now wish to continue defaming me because I responded to you on similar fashion once says more about you than me.

                  And your “agreement” was also crap. Why are audiences more accustomed to holohoax tripe over Soviet crimes? Duh. It’s in my original comment. Agreeing with that makes you as anti semitic as me doesn’t it?

                  Comment by Schlageter — December 12, 2015 @ 11:03 am

              • I’m the artist formally known as HCW, I changed my name to HADT (Hug A Denier Today) to show my solidarity with the persecuted deniers who are now rotting in prison because of their thought crimes.
                Never mind the fact that those arrested broke the law.
                No, my agreement
                with you is based
                upon my interest in
                the subject matter.
                As for the articles, when I see something like that my inclination is to check the facts against what is written. I also want to know the origin of the websites they are posted on so I can assure myself of their reliability.
                For example, not to long ago I saw a story written regarding some woman arrested in Wyoming for not baking a wedding cake for a lesbian couple. This made me angry because I don’t think that is a legitimate reason to arrest someone.
                Turns out that the woman was arrested for something completely different and the fact that she refused service to the lesbian couple was completely irrelevant.
                This is why I’m not going to take your articles at face value. I’m simply too busy to go through the effort right now of fact checking.
                If/when I get around to it I will let you know.

                Comment by HADT — December 12, 2015 @ 1:06 pm

                • Of course. Everyone here understands your congnitive dissonance.

                  Carry on stuffing your mouth with circumcised cock, you disingenuous POS.

                  Comment by Schlageter — December 12, 2015 @ 3:04 pm

              • Actually the fact that you personally insulted me says a great deal about you……mainly that you resort to infantile tantrums when confronted. I did not insult you personally on these comments and I wasn’t going to. In fact, I agreed with you that material regarding the atrocities committed by the Soviet Regime needed more recognition.
                I’m simply going to let your personal attack go. You are a sad, frightened, small-minded bigot with Jews on the brain. The fact that you idolize a moribund ideology founded on the sick delusions of another sad, frightened little man who chose to destroy a world in a fit of pique shows you are unable to deal with the real world. It’s rather lame that you blame the world’s ills on Jews. Your only excuse is that you are unable to deal with the real world in any capacity.

                Comment by HDAT — December 12, 2015 @ 3:53 pm

  4. At October 31 1944 the Nazi let take all the box containing the ashes of person dead at Theresienstadt out of the COLOMBARIUM and brought. All the boxes had been brought to the nearby Eger river side where a group of twenty prisioniers had to empty the boxes twrowing the ashes ust into the river. Needless to say the those prisioniers had been shot just after having done that work,
    Throwing the ashes of murdered victims in the water of a river is a very old pagan rite and perfectly consistent with the Nazi doctrine of the extirpation of Jews.
    Clearly the tragic story of the SONDERKOMANDO members is no way suitable for a Hollywood film.

    Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 11, 2015 @ 2:01 am

    • Now come along Dr Murmelstein – lets get to bottom of this story. Why did the Nazis retain these boxes of ashes in the first place if they were such incriminating evidence of crimes against humanity. Wouldn’t the ashes have been scattered individually long before it became necessary to dispose of them in bulk on 31 October 1944?

      Did you actually witness the dumping of these ashes in the river yourself – or is it something you overheard others tell you.

      You say that the 20 prisoners who dumped the ashes were shot immediately afterwards. Who were these prisoners – do we know their names? Where did the shooting take place, and what happened to their bodies afterwards.

      Is not the date 31 October rather suspicious – it sounds to me like a spoof, Halloween horror story!

      Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2015 @ 8:11 am

      • TALBOT. I simply quote a fact that had made certain in People Court trial. I remembre well how a lot of old women had been called to form a chain to pass the boxes with the ashes;; I remember an old lady speaking about that work she had been, like others, performing. At Theresienstadt the COLOMBARIUM where the boxes with the ashes of deads had been hold replaced a cemetary. The liquidation of the ashes of deads occured just three days after the last transport to Auschwitz had left.
        You Talbot are a very fussy person who looks only for faults and worse than some Negationist.
        I had been at Theresienstadt and wore theYellow Star and not You who know nothing about those times of darkness

        Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 11, 2015 @ 9:10 am

        • You call me “a very fussy person”, but is it really asking too much for you holocaust proponents to provide us with details and verifiable facts before we accept all these stories as true. Just think about you are saying here, Dr Murmelstein; you claim that the Nazis ordered 20 unknown prisoners to remove the urns of human ashes from a properly constructed mausoleum (or Colombarium) and dump them into a nearby river that flows through communities downstream, which might extract the polluted water from its flow. Afterwards, these prisoners are then promptly shot, and their bodies are taken to… (well, no one really knows!). You produce no named witnesses to this alleged event, and apparently there is no documentation recording it either. We, the general public, are simply required to accept this story at face value.

          Well, not anymore, thank you – we need CONCRETE EVIDENCE as proof that these holocaust events actually took place.

          Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2015 @ 12:06 pm

          • TALBOT! I quoted a fact that at trial of last Commander Rahm had been made certain by Court. Furthermore those prisoniers had been chosen among those who were leaving Theresienstad with the last transport of October 28, 1944 when the train had a stop at the Bauschowitz railway station and taken to the Little Fortress – Kleine Festung – until the carton boxes with the ashes arrived.
            Note THE TRAIN HAD A STOP AT THE BAUSCHOWITZ RAILWAY STATION. There the locomotive driven by a Czech engine driver that brought the train out of Theresienstadt had been replaced with another driven by a German who knew the real destination – Auschwitz — while the Ghetto leadership had been told about a labor camp near Dresden where the Jewish working skill could better employed: the usual Nazi lie. Really we should learn and follow that way of keeping secrecy and now ISIS and other terror groups would be not so dangerous. Think about this.

            Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 12, 2015 @ 1:32 am

            • @Wolf Murmelstein. I certainly accept your claims about the last transport leaving Theresienstadt on October 28th 1944. That seems quite genuine – its probably even documented by the Nazis, and it was undoubtedly witnessed by your father and other inmates – maybe even yourself. At first glance, it does look suspicious that a Czech locomotive engineer was replace at the Bauschowitz railway station by a German engine driver – but then again, maybe the Nazis were telling the truth about the destination being a labour camp near Dresden. A German engineer would be familiar with the route to Dresden, while a Czech driver would be more suitable for taking the train all the way down to the Polish-Czech frontier.

              You are quite right that we should all learn from history, and not repeat the mistakes of the past. But it is imperative that we get the facts and historical record straight to begin with, otherwise the world is going to arrive at the wrong conclusions.

              Comment by Talbot — December 12, 2015 @ 4:08 am

              • I wrote about the Bauschowitz station on this blog post:

                Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2015 @ 6:08 am

                • The photo of the people walking along the road from the Bauschowitz train station to Theresienstadt is quite interesting. Some of the of the adults are wearing a yellow star, but apart from that, the scene is quite relaxed and unthreatening. The children don’t look haggard or upset in anyway, and the grown-ups are determined and self-possessed. There are bystanders looking peacefully across from the side of the road – but there are no SS guards, dogs, or thugs armed with whips and truncheons. In actual fact, most fair-minded people studying this photo would think it was just a group of evacuees carrying their personal items that they had salvaged from a flood.

                  The photo provides direct contradiction to the written blurb, which talks about Jews being crammed into cattle trucks without food water and sanitation. But these folk don’t seem to have been in that kind of environment at all. And the narrator tries to make great play of the poor Jews having to struggle all the way from the railway station to Theresienstadt. But I checked on Google Earth, and the distance is barely 2 kilometres – if that!

                  Comment by Talbot — December 12, 2015 @ 8:35 am

              • TALBOT. The Nazis did not want that someone – even the engine driver – entering the Ghetto should have knowledge about the real destination Auschwitz – of the train. So they changed lokomotif and engine driver as soos as out of Theresienstadt. Note the very accurate organization and keeping of secrecy. Among friends. I think that many democratic governments should learn this lesson of organization and keeping secrecy when engaging in fighting ISIS or other terorists groups. Unfortunately for out security many politicians are wasting time in useless chatering and we risk that certain events occure again.

                Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 13, 2015 @ 9:16 am

                • It is my understanding that there were no train tracks that entered the Theresienstadt ghetto.

                  I wrote about this on this blog post:

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 13, 2015 @ 10:44 am

                • FURTHERGLORY! In April 1943, a train track had been proposed from Bauschowirz into Theresienstadt, beside the HAMBURGER Barack; that street had been named BAHNHOFSTRASSE. I wonder what had been shown when You visited Theresienstadt. So the trains reached and left the Ghetto without the need to walk towards or from the Bauschowitz railway station. I guess that the Czech authorities had removed that track. Should I ask Beith Theresienstadt or can You confirm the lack of the railway track. As we see in this debate, that is an important detail which permits us to understand other ones. I wonder furthermore what the hell the TEREZIN MUSEUM is doing when not giving the right information to important visitors. Best.

                  Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 13, 2015 @ 1:01 pm

                • I wrote about the branch railroad line, that was built later, on this blog post:

                  On that blog post, I have a photo of people walking from the station to the ghetto before this branch railroad was built.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 14, 2015 @ 6:26 am

          • Being an ethnic German myself, I know that the German people are fond of telling tall tales to gullible children. This is supposed to be a way of telling a joke, but it is not funny. Wolf may have been a victim of one of these jokes that might have been told by a guard at Theresienstadt. German children learn very early to verify the facts.

            Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2015 @ 6:22 am

            • Wolf Murmelstein is quite correct – there does seem to have been a railway line that went from Theresienstadt to Bauschowitz. One can even follow the alignment of the old track on Google Earth. Do we know when it was actually built ? There are still traces of the old rail line as it enters Terezin, and the Czechs have probably restored a small section of the original track as it passes by the former Colombarium.

              Comment by Talbot — December 15, 2015 @ 6:08 am

  5. So Filip Muehler spent three years working in the gas chambers; and Dario Gabbei claimed on TV – back during the 70th Anniversary Holohoax commemorations – that he worked as a member of a sonderkommando in one of the Auschwitz Kremas for 12 months ( interestingly, he never claimed which one he worked in ).

    But I’m quite puzzled, because according to Rohrig or ‘Rafi’, in his account above, all these sondercommandos were gassed themselves after 4 months – so how did Mr Muehler escape extermination 9 times, and Mr Gabbei 3 times during their extraordinary careers. Did they show such diligence and commitment in their work performances, that impressed the SS guards so much, that they allowed them to continue serving the Third Reich right up-until the “gassings” came to an end ( allegedly in November 1944 ). And then, did the guards forget to kill them both before the camp was evacuated in January 1945. What a mistake to make! – allowing two key witnesses to the exterminations to survive and go on to tell their stories to the world.

    But – to be perfectly honest – this does stretch credibility beyond any kind of limit !

    Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2015 @ 1:11 pm

  6. To Jim Rizoli:
    I finished the book you wanted me to read.
    Mr. Rizoli, please do me the courtesy of not suggesting any more reading material. Because of you I’ve now read some 600 pages of drivel. The latest book about Auschwitz is simply the origin of later books written by deniers who have built upon it’s nauseating innuendos of evidence tampering and linguistic tap dancing.
    I’m no longer willing to humor you in regards to finding out the “truth.” While the latest book was better written it still tossed up the same old garbage that I recognized from later books from other deniers who seem stuck in the same old rut. I’ll give the author some credit for being one of the earlier purveyors of this garbage.
    The sad thing is that someone who has no knowledge of history regarding this time period will probably be impressed by this garbage.

    Comment by HCW — December 10, 2015 @ 10:43 am

    • To: HCW ( Holocaust™ CULT Worshiper )

      I believe a more appropriate explanation would be WWII Revisionist Historians “AFFIRM” not “Deny”.

      WWII Revisionists historian scholars are intellectually honest individuals.
      THEY AFFIRM, there were no homicidal gas chambers used to commit a genocide of Six Million™ Jews.
      THEY AFFIRM, there was no German-“Nazi”-Hitler plan to exterminate the European Jewish population.
      THEY AFFIRM that the German Final Solution™ to the Jewish Question consisted of the removal of Jews especially Communists
      from German territory first BY EMIGRATION when possible and then BY DEPORTATION if necessary.
      THEY AFFIRM Six million™ Jews did not die during the horrific travails of WWII in which everyone clearly suffered.

      These WWII Revisionists STRIVE TO ESTABLISH WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED; they are positive.
      The Extermationists doggedly continue to tell us about THINGS WHICH DIDN’T HAPPEN: and their work IS very negative.

      WWII Revisionists ENCOURAGE CRITICAL-THINKING PEOPLE to Question the Jewish Holocaust™ DOGMA
      which they believe is based largely on atrocity war propaganda which was used 70 years ago to establish Israel.

      And they recognize intelligent people clearly understand that NO historical event
      and THEN CONCLUDE and HOLD a different OPINION WITHOUT FEAR of coercion,
      physical attack, fines, imprisonment, defamation of character, loss of job, and or pension.

      Have a nice day.

      Comment by Libby Anne Justice — December 10, 2015 @ 1:01 pm

      • First, I’d like to compliment you on using my initials to come up with something original. I read eah’s comment before yours and replied to it before reading your comment. Rest assured I did not steal your idea.
        Second, what you call “Revisionism” I call an attempt to rehabilitate the image of one of the most murderous regimes in history, surpassed by the various Communist regimes only because Hitler’s alleged “genius” caused National Socialism to disappear after 12 years. Communism lasted much longer but, hey, I give credit where credit is due. Hitler managed a great deal of damage in a much shorter time. This included being one of the primary causes of WW II. Kudos.
        Last, what you call “Revisionism” I call an attempt to piss on the memories on the memories of all the victims of Nazi aggression, not only Jews but the disabled, the Roma, Soviet POW’s, the Poles, etc.
        You have a nice day as well.

        Comment by HCW — December 10, 2015 @ 2:05 pm

        • “Nazi”™ aggression? Seriously? WOW.

          You clearly overlooked THE FACT the Jewish global oligarchy
          DECLARED WAR on GERMANY . . .FIRST in 1933.

          Blow-back is one unbiased, ugly bitch, ain’t she?

          Germany certainly had every right to defend itself
          from radical kosher Communist declaring war on her from without and within her borders.

          YOU CLEARLY need to be reminded:

          “We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewis”


          All your juvenile name calling, and overused pejoratives, are eventually going to,come to an end.

          The fact is Jews today no longer have any credibility on this taboo topic- among the intellectually honest.

          ONLY among yourselves and or other indoctrinated simpletons.

          Most people eventually do however transition into adulthood, and then the real questions BEGIN.

          There is simply NO justification for JAILING or fining anyone today who does their own independent investigation
          and THEN has another opinion on ANY historical event –
          unless of course you’re IN AN ORWELLIAN CULT
          who demands public worship of such an ugly idol.

          Perhaps one day Jews can escape from their dysfunctional mental prison cell
          but tragically I don’t see it happening anytime soon.

          Comment by Libby Anne Justice — December 10, 2015 @ 3:22 pm

          • That’s cute, you are equating a boycott with a declaration of war.
            So, the next time I boycott a business I will actually have to declare war?
            Dear Wal-Mart, I am formally declaring war on you because I disagree with your policy of importing toys from China.
            For your information most Jews in Germany were assimilated patriots who willingly fought for their country in WW I. Hitler even received his Iron Cross, First Class on the recommendation of a Jewish Officer.
            I think it is you who needs to grow up. Perhaps a break from your obsessions are in order.

            Comment by HCW — December 10, 2015 @ 3:48 pm

      • Oh, and Libby, no one thinks the Nazis gassed six million Jews to death. In addition to gas chambers the Jews also died from disease, starvation and abuse. In addition, the various Einsatzgruppen also shot Jews with the help of local collaborators.
        I’m glad I could clear that up for you. You have a super happy swell day.

        Comment by HCW — December 10, 2015 @ 2:46 pm

      • LIBBY ANNE JUSTICE, TALBOT.. All the so called REVISIONIST HISTORIAN SCHOLARS fail to answer the question where the great Jewish comunity of CENTRAL AND EAST EUROPE disappeared. We Jews have no dogmas but a history of long lasting persecutions due to our Faith in Monotheism. The Holocaust had been the worst as number of victims concerns and that no one of Jewish ancestry could escape by converting to Christianity or becomin Atheist. Even grandchildren of converts had been subject to discriminatiom. Indeed, be Jew is first of all a Fate not only a Faith.
        The extirpation in the Gas Chamber emloying Zyklon B is the estirpation of the UNGEZIEFER – verms – as the Nazis considered us. with successive cremation and throwing of the ashes in a river, according old pagan customs.

        Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 11, 2015 @ 2:16 am

        • @Wolf Murmelstein

          You ask;- “where the great Jewish community of CENTRAL AND EASTERN EUROPE disappeared”. Yes, unfortunately, that is a question that none of us can definitively answer, because there has never been a serious attempt since the end of WW2 to find out what really did happen during that period of history. The victorious nations of WW2 – acting in concert with international Jewry – were keen to blame the vanquished Germans for “exterminating” the Jews; and the Nuremburg Military Tribunals – plus other war crimes trials – gave this version of WW2 an official “rubber-stamp” of approval. This has meant that very few historians and researchers have even attempted to delve properly, independently and methodically into the history of WW2. Everyone seems to have blindly accepted the verdicts of the IMT as defined, sacred truth.

          My own opinion is that the estimated numbers of Jews living in Europe back in 1939 is way too high to begin with. In addition, sizeable numbers of Jews were already leaving Germany, Poland, Austria and Hungary even before WW2 broke out. The war itself caused many deaths – and included those who died in ghettos, concentration camps and labour camps. The post-war upheavals left enormous numbers of Jewish refugees scattered all the way from the Atlantic Ocean to the Soviet Far East!

          I believe that many of the Jews who were liberated by the Red Army from camps located in Soviet-occupied territory were dispersed far and wide across that vast nation and eventually settled down to new lives inside Russia. I also think that the Jews liberated from camps inside Germany and Poland were also dispersed to various countries across the rest of the world. Some made their way through south-east Europe to Turkey, the Middle East and Palestine; others found new lives in the United States, Canada, South America, South Africa and Australia. Another large portion of Jews just didn’t bother to register as Jews anymore! – and so they largely disappeared and merged into the vast non-Jewish population.

          So, I don’t believe that the Nazis had a diabolical program to exterminate the Jews at all. Yes – they wanted to expel them from Europe, and as the war progressed, they also wanted to use Jewish labour in vast numbers to work in their war industries. But there were no death camps, or death vans, or Zyklon-B and carbon-monoxide poisoning – this is all fantasy that has come from out of the vivid imaginations of refugees who are merely regurgitating hearsay evidence and Allied propaganda as their personal testimonies.

          Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2015 @ 4:14 am

          • Most of the world’s Jewish population lived in Europe before WW II, Talbot. That’s fact.
            Your theory is all supposition not backed by any facts whatsoever. Of course, I don’t think it’s your theory, I think it’s something you’ve read or some denier told you this. A new convert never questions what their new religion tells them.
            The problem with this idea of evacuation of Jews to the east is that it completely ignores the realities of what was going on at that time. There was a severe food shortage, not to mention lack of materials to build the refugee camps you are describing. Auschwitz itself was planned to hold 160,000 but it never came close to those numbers. Majdanek, also a large camp, never contained the amount of prisoners it theoretically could hold.
            So, where did the Nazis send them, these millions of hapless Jews? Into the Soviet Union? There was no system of camps in the Soviet Union that could hold that many Jews. You also have to consider that the Nazi leadership would never have wanted large numbers of Jews parked right behind the battle lines. How do you feed them? The German army lived off the land, causing enormous famine and hardship to the native population. Whatever the army didn’t eat was shipped west to Germany to feed Germans.
            I know nothing I’ve written will mean anything to you, Talbot. A new convert doesn’t see the holes, they only see the bright shiny toy they possess that answers all of their questions.

            Comment by HCW — December 11, 2015 @ 4:42 am

            • HCW – I did say in my post that I was only putting forward an opinion – I didn’t claim that it was the actual truth. My intention was to offer Dr. Murmelstein an alternative explanation of what happened to Europe’s large Jewish community during those terrible years But I still hold to the view that none of us can provide any definitive answers to what happened to Europe’s Jewish population, either before, during, or immediately after WW2. And I emphasise “before” and “immediately after” because these periods of history are just as important as the war years themselves. Not enough honest, independent research has gone into these two periods, because the official narrative keeps screaming out “holocaust”, “holocaust” – “6 million Jews died in gas chambers”.

              I’m afraid that there is no proof that a holocaust existed at all – or that 6 million Jews perished in some kind of extermination program. I used to believe that there was solid evidence for this, but it has since become clear that there is no such proof. The world has just been presented with verbal assertions, dubious documents, tortured confessions, fake constructions, fabricated stories, imaginative artwork, doctored photos, misleading captions – all combined with the insidious propaganda issued by the Allied and Soviet media outlets of that era.

              The reason I suspect that large numbers of Jews did finish up in the Soviet Union is because I’m now convinced that Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec were merely transit halts, where the passengers had to change trains before continuing their journeys into the occupied Soviet Union. In addition to this, the Soviet prosecutor at the NMT did make a brief reference to German camps which were over-run by the advancing Red Army, and in one of them they found over 30,000 Jewish women, children and elderly people who needed urgent treatment for the affects of Typhus. Unfortunately, the prosecutor did not elaborate on all this – and probably quite deliberately so, because the official line was mass killing and genocide.

              Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2015 @ 7:08 am

              • TALBOT. I do not need alternative explanations about the fate of the more than six miliom Jewish victims. I am certainly better informed than You about the post WWII time. I am fed up with all the non sense You and some others are posting here, Sear down on the ass and study seriously history than we mat discuss, in the event I should be still alive and healthy enough to work on computer.

                Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 11, 2015 @ 9:20 am

              • 30,000 does not make 3,000,0000.
                You are wrong about studies not being done on what happened to the Jews before, during and after the war….for that matter what happened in Europe before, during and after the war.
                I will provide you a list, if you’d like. None of them are written by Holocaust deniers so I’m not going to give them to you unless you want them.

                Comment by HCW — December 11, 2015 @ 9:45 am

              • Talbot, no “official narrative” ever claimed that six million Jews died in the gas chambers.
                Where in the world did you ever get that information?
                If some denier told you that they are more ridiculous than I ever dreamed.

                Comment by HADT — December 13, 2015 @ 1:11 pm

    • drivel…nauseating innuendos…evidence tampering…linguistic tap dancing…garbage…garbage…garbage

      That’s quite an erudite review — yes indeed, a real intellectual tour de force.

      it’s nauseating innuendos — You want its here, not “it’s” — you fucking moron.

      Comment by eah — December 10, 2015 @ 1:22 pm

      • Hey, eah, I’ve been thinking about a business model I’d like to discuss with you.
        It’s called “Hug a Denier Today.”
        You made me really think with your moving soliloquy about the plight of deniers in the world today, getting beaten up, expelled from countries, imprisoned, etc.
        What I was considering was a line of T-Shirts with a smiling Adolph Hitler pictured in the front symbolically hugging Fred Leuchter with a caption over it saying “Hug a Denier Today.”
        I was also thinking we could set up an account that would automatically send a muffin or fruit basket to any denier in jail. We could use some of our profits to set this up. Better yet, maybe we could get the IHR to help offset some of the cost.
        I also think you need to come up with a better insult. Calling me a “fucking moron” is so pedestrian.
        I, for example, think you should use my initials to come up with something more imaginative.
        Let me demonstrate so you know what I mean.
        See, I just took your initials and made a perfectly suitable insult.
        See how easy that is?
        Better yet, from now on when people see your initials this is what they will think:

        Comment by HCW — December 10, 2015 @ 1:52 pm

        • soliloquy

          It was a comment in an internet forum, not a soliloquy — go look up the definition of soliloquy — you really shouldn’t use big ‘mommy’ words without knowing the meaning — it just confirms that you are a stupid poseur.


          In this instance it was more ‘If the shoe fits…’ — originality wasn’t the goal.

          Comment by eah — December 11, 2015 @ 10:13 am

  7. The holocaust industry, plus the Media moguls who run Hollywood, think they are very smart, funny and clever in releasing a holohoax movie like this in the days leading up to Christmas. It is designed to be a “spoiler” – to deliberately rub the noses of Christians in fake holocaust filth during the period when they are celebrating their major religious event.

    The low-life characters who would push this type of movie out on to the general public at this particular time of year do not even pretend to have any humanity in their hearts and souls. Even making money at the box-office is probably secondary to the real purpose of the film – which is to antagonise the Christians by making then feel depressed and guilty during their holy festival.

    Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2015 @ 10:28 am

    • TALBOT So among friends. My late Father had been very angry about Hollywood film makers who had never even seen an SS man and had spread stupid stories around. A German gentleman who at 16 had enlisted into the Wehrmacht told me how they too feared the SS. I remember a film where the SS had been represented in BLACK UNIFORM as the film maker even ignored that the WAFFEN SS and SS guards wore GREEN-GRAY uniforms and so had been difficult to tell apart from the Wehrmacht soldiers. Best.

      Comment by Wolf MURMELSTEIN — December 13, 2015 @ 9:28 am

      • It is my understanding that there was the Waffen-SS which fought in battle, and another group of SS men who were the guards in the camps. So there were two separate kinds of uniforms for two separate groups of SS men.

        Comment by furtherglory — December 13, 2015 @ 10:41 am

  8. Tired of these. I think I’ll watch something else.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — December 10, 2015 @ 8:53 am

  9. Yet another version of the truth as they see it. The quote above reckons that the victims were killed in a gas chamber fully clothed after which they were separated and had their hair cut! Really? The normal version is the victims were led into a gas chamber that they assumed was a shower room, then the zyklon B was dropped through the roof. They had already had their hair cut etc. So here we have a new film about the so called final solution but as usual the story evolves to suit the current climate.

    Comment by Mr B — December 10, 2015 @ 8:13 am

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