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January 27, 2016

Can a person get Schizophrenia from being in a concentration camp as a child?

Filed under: Health, Holocaust — Tags: — furtherglory @ 1:50 pm

Today I read a news article at http://www.timesofisrael.com/holocaust-toddlers-nearly-twice-as-likely-to-develop-schizophrenia/

The news article, cited above, claims the following:

“Holocaust toddlers nearly twice as likely to develop schizophrenia”

This quote is from the start of the article:

While Holocaust survivors in general are 27% more likely to develop the disability than their non-survivor peers, those who were in their mothers’ wombs during World War ll and experienced Holocaust horrors after the age of two were 41% more likely to exhibit the disorder.

I looked up this subject and found this information online:

Heredity and the Genetics of Schizophrenia

Family statistics
As can be seen from the graph below schizophrenia definitely has a very significant genetic component. Those who have a third degree relative with schizophrenia are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia as those in the general population. Those with a second degree relative have a several-fold higher incidence of schizophrenia than the general population, and first degree relatives have an incidence of schizophrenia an order of magnitude higher than the general populace. Following are two images that summarize the average risks for developing schizophrenia for different groups of people. (The statistics in the two images vary slightly due to inclusion of different study data).

schizophrenia.risks

So it seems that Jews have a high risk of inheriting mental diseases. Who knew?

 

24 Comments »

  1. As a little boy I had to wear the Jellow Star and, walking on steets at Vienna, had been insulted and even attacked. The I had been deported to Theresienstadt where my late Father had had a leading position and had to face the SS almost every day. After Liberation he had been blamed, put in prison by the Czech Benes gang. Eveng having been fully acquitted – accusations baseless – and considered to be a reliable witness in other trials I still nowaday am compelled to rebuke accusations or critics of persons who or stood safte at those time or no really nothing about the conditions of Shoah. Needless to say that my parents suffered from the Survivor Syndrome; not a pleasant enviroment for a youngster and than a young man,
    As I am told by the Neurologist that emotional backgroung weakened my resistance to a brain infection and now I have increasing health problems. As advised by doctors I did not watch in TV the films shown yesterday – Remembrance Day – and do not deliver speeches or take part at oral discussions.
    Clearly posts like those of jrizzoli/dianeking or writings of so called “intellectuals” against the right of the State Israel to exist or so cause only the worsening of of my problems and increasing allarm among Jews worldwide.
    For more than 2500 years the Jewish people stood between hammers and ambisses and had been considered as a suitable scapegoat by all powerholders wanting to divert attention from the real economic and social problems. And here jrizzoli/dianeking state that we suffer from the victimhood syndrom for genetic reasons; studying really history they would understand the actual sound reasons of the Jewish vicimhood syndrom.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — January 27, 2016 @ 11:51 pm

    • Good grief, Wolf. You SURVIVED!!! In fact more of you survived than was feared. In fact, more survived (according to YOUR numbers) than were actually in the Reich. Y’all have been persecuted for over 2500 years? Really??? HAVE YOU FIGURED OUT WHY that THAT might be the case? It’s not because you’ve been upstanding citizens in each of your host countries. If your behavior with the Romans was any indication, it’s a wonder there were no signs at the entrance of each empire stating, JEWS, HEBREWS OR WHATEVER YOU ARE CALLING YOURSELVES THESE DAYS — YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE — ARE NOT WELCOME!!!!

      All of us have some malady, some childhood trauma, something to overcome. WHY IS THAT ONLY YOURS is mentioned, acknowledged, sanctioned and enabled. And that your people extort BILLIONS of dollars from at least Germany and the U.S. to underpin that ‘bandit state’ in and disrupting the middle east! Sheesh – Get over yourselves!

      Comment by Diane King — January 28, 2016 @ 4:13 pm

      • It’s all about the Jews the Jews are the most important people on the earth whatever happens to them is the most important thing. Everyone elses suffering does not matter let’s worship the Jews. Seems to be a problem here you just say?

        Comment by jrizoli — January 28, 2016 @ 4:17 pm

        • Worship the jews or the holocost? No thanks. JUST SAY NO!!!

          Comment by Diane King — January 28, 2016 @ 4:46 pm

      • DIANEKING/RIZOLI. Your comments exasctly show how my nightmares are based on actual dangers and hatefull hostility, Thanks for the clear statements.
        Such attitudes are the reason of what is called bizare behaviour of Jews.

        Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — January 28, 2016 @ 11:35 pm

  2. No surprise here at all. One only has to look at thr attitudes and behaviour of Israeli settlers and other there to see they behave in a bizarre way. jews have always inbred within tight communities and as such swim in a rather small gene pool. Look at their bad eyesight, very common in jews and the strange claims they make. They are mad.

    Comment by Mr B — January 27, 2016 @ 11:02 pm

    • Sitting at a pavement café in France last year with a couple of friends, we were talking to a school teacher from North London about his relationship with the parents of the students that he has to deal with. No one had mentioned Jews up-until that point, but he suddenly burst out saying “Do you know something – Jews are terribly arrogant people.” I was quite taken aback by the forcefulness of his remark, because he was a genial, kindly sort of guy who showed no animosity to anyone. Not knowing any Jews personally, I myself had no positive or negative feelings towards them. But obviously at his meetings with these Jewish parents, he came face to face with an uncomfortable reality that many of us have never had to experience before.

      Comment by Talbot — January 28, 2016 @ 3:59 am

  3. http://www.samhsa.gov/specific-populations/racial-ethnic-minority
    So, I did some digging.
    It turns out that the ethnic group most likely in the United States to suffer from mental illness are the Native Americans. They also suffer from high instances of substance abuse.
    Older Asians, especially women, have high rates of suicide. It is linked to PTSD.
    You know, PTSD. When they experienced trauma when they were younger it affected them and they never received treatment, so consequently, it continued to affect them.
    Much like survivors of concentration camps.
    Huh, doesn’t look like just a Jewish problem.
    How amazingly. So, as, HUMANS, if we experience trauma at an early age it can affect us all of our lives. Mental illness is also hereditary.
    Who knew. So apparently, we can pass this along to our children. As humans. Not just Jews.
    Hope this helps.
    Jeff

    Comment by Jeff K. — January 27, 2016 @ 3:31 pm

    • JEFF. The natives of America had been persecuted and hold in a form of slavery for centuries. The same other “bizzare” behaving peoples. The deep roots of islamic extremism are the Crussades and the deeds – mass slaughters – of the Crusaders. Would be an interesting research field. Best.

      Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — January 28, 2016 @ 11:44 pm

  4. Schizophrenics are/were more-likely to be rounded up and sent to concentration camps in the first place. That may have caused Jews to be overrepresented in that, as in other, groups.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — January 27, 2016 @ 2:51 pm

  5. They obviously have a predisposition to psychological illnesses, as the example of Freud’s target group were rich neurotic jewish women (sorry for the redundancy). It wouldn’t matter if they were raised in Disneyland…. they’d still be sporting multiple personality issues and other manifestations of schizophrenia. Not to mention their constant preoccupation with death and their obvious inherent unprovoked VICTIMHOOD.

    Comment by Diane King — January 27, 2016 @ 2:32 pm

  6. Many mental illnesses that have some genetic component may never develop symptoms and still need a trigger from the environment or a life experience to manifest symptoms and “develop” the condition.

    Your attempt at a “conclusion” is beyond repulsive and literally attempts to “interpret” correlations for which you have provided absolutely no basis and instead “concludes” a skewed, literally racist comment. You are a disgusting and sick individual. How you completely fail to use your intelligence and research abilities towards GOOD causes rather than towards hate is incomprehensible.

    Comment by Halli — January 27, 2016 @ 2:03 pm

    • Halli, I feel we (faithful) benefit from your participation in comment threads. Your first paragraph is a worthwhile contribution (in favor of your predilections, of course, like ours).

      If you could just desist from stuff like the second paragraph, you’d GAIN impact. Your dudgeon just arouses ours, and discourse goes down the drain. Let US be the jerks, for once. It might be as simple as just not beating us to that punch (if punch it even be).

      Comment by Jett Rucker — January 27, 2016 @ 2:56 pm

      • “For once?” It keeps happening time and time again.

        Comment by Halli — January 27, 2016 @ 3:08 pm

      • To clarify, it is not as though the author attempted to make any reasonable conclusion that COULD be reasoned with. The first sentence was an effort to point out to readers that this was the case.

        The second section is my comment to the author regarding his utter lack of any attempt to draw a reasonable conclusion, and his choice instead to make a snarky, nasty, quite literally racist, and wholly unsupported allegation.

        Comment by Halli — January 27, 2016 @ 3:13 pm

  7. The Jews are psychopaths..hew knew. LOL

    Comment by jrizoli — January 27, 2016 @ 1:53 pm

    • You, too, are a disgusting excuse for a person to use your time and efforts to enjoy and spread hate and idiocy.

      Comment by Halli — January 27, 2016 @ 2:04 pm

      • AnyOne that can behave as written below has to be a psychopath….or have some issues in life. I just call it like it is.

        On this subject, Catholic Bishop Richard N. Williamson eloquently states:

        The Six Million constitute a lay religion with its own dogma, commandments, decrees, prophets, high priests and Saints: St Anne (Frank), St Simon (Wiesenthal), St Elie (Wiesel). It has its holy places, its rituals and its pilgrimages. It has its temples and its relics (bars of soap, piles of shoes, etc.), its martyrs, heroes, miracles and miraculous survivors (millions of them), its golden legend and its righteous people. Auschwitz is its Golgotha, Hitler is its Satan. It dictates its law to the nations. Its heart beats in Jerusalem, at the Yad Veshem monument.

        It is a new religion that has enjoyed a meteoric growth since World War II. It has conquered the West and is setting out to conquer the world. Whereas the progress of scientific thinking in our consumer society has weakened the grip of all the classic religions by making people more and more sceptical as to the truth of religion’s stories and the promises religion holds out, the new religion prospers to the point that anybody caught denying its basic dogma is branded as a “Revisionist”, is cast out of the community, and is treated like only heretics used to be treated. It is in effect a religion, and it is today a major instrument, and, one might say, the popular religion of the godless New World Order.
        Welcome to the Holohoax Cult..

        Comment by jrizoli — January 27, 2016 @ 2:13 pm

        • I understand Halli’s irritation, she’s a relative newcomer so she hasn’t built up a resistance yet.
          Also, I believe she is Jewish, undoubtedly a relative or relatives of hers suffered and died during the Holocaust.
          So, perhaps some basic human understanding is in order.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — January 27, 2016 @ 3:18 pm

        • Very well written!

          Comment by furtherglory — January 27, 2016 @ 4:31 pm

      • It’s interesting, “Halli” you can make such judgments and cast dispersions out of hand. Believe it or not, you made Jim’s argument. You have no argument but character attacks.

        As I love to restate: “Reverting to name calling (derision) suggests that you are defensive and therefore, find my opinion valid.” (Spock,Star Trek – Into the Darkness)

        Comment by Diane King — January 27, 2016 @ 2:35 pm

        • How, pray tell, is a truthful comment on another’s hate that he chooses to display to the world a “character attack?”

          Comment by Halli — January 27, 2016 @ 3:09 pm

        • You know, Diane, if nothing else, I can appreciate the fact you are a Star Trek Fan.
          Myself, I always preferred Deep Space Nine to the original and next gen but I did enjoy the recent movies.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — January 27, 2016 @ 3:13 pm


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