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January 30, 2016

The difference between a gas chamber and a shower room

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 11:53 am

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The photo above shows a shower room at Dachau. This is NOT a gas chamber, as claimed by several people who have put this photo on Pinterest.

My photo of the alleged gas chamber at Dachau

My photo of the alleged gas chamber at Dachau

Every morning, I check the statistics for my blog, in order to see how people are being directed here. Many people are being directed to my blog from Pinterest, especially from the photo of a shower room at Dachau.

The gas chamber at Dachau was in a shower room, but NOT the shower room that is shown in the first photo. I have a section on my website which explains the gas chamber in one of the shower rooms at Dachau: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/Index.html

You can read more, about the gas chamber at Dachau, on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/history01.html

48 Comments »

  1. Hi Zan,

    Interesting about the Polish thing. The Holohoax lie is unraveling in the face of truth.

    Yours in freedom and Justice,

    Peymon Mottahedeh, President

    Freedom Law School http://www.LiveFreeNow.org (813)444-4800

    From: Zan Overall [mailto:zn365@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 4:37 PM To: comment+e1n4u6q8nt6nt42qgc5ctjph@comment.wordpress.com Subject: FROM ZAN OVERAL Re: [New post] The difference between a gas chamber and a shower room

    Dear “Further Glory,” creator of the website scrapbookpagesblog

    I am a friend of Charles Krafft. We both admire your work exposing the falsity of the “Holocaust Hoax.”

    I wonder if you have ever covered the fact that the Holohoax promoters have had to withdraw their claim that Germans executed Jews in gas chambers in Germany. They have retreated to Auschwitz and other places in Poland, under the control of Russian Communists. The phony “gas chamber” shown to tourists at Auschwitz was constructed after WWII by those Communists.

    The Holohoax promoters have withdrawn their claim about Germans gassing Jews in places such as Dachau but that tardy confession leaves the Germans who were hung on the basis of that lie still dead.

    In April of 2015, before I moved from Los Angeles to Reno, Nevada I went to the Jewish run Museum of Tolerance. I had heard that the Jews now have abandoned the claim that Jews were executed/exterminated in “Death Camps” in Germany proper, only claiming now that the gas chamber deaths occurred in Poland.

    I wanted to confirm that what I had heard was true. I found it WAS! In one part of their “Shoah Show” they showed a map of Germany with all the camps shown. A female recorded voice stated while that map was being shown that “All the Death Camps were in Poland.”

    I wrote up an account of my trip to the MOT. Will attach it.

    Sending copies of this email to Charles Krafft, Bradley Smith and others.

    It is sickening to go to a Jewish propaganda mill like the Museum of Tolerance and watch busloads of young people march in to be brainwashed———— at American government expense!!!!!

    Zan Overall zn365@aol.com The Wise Old Man http://www.youtube.com/1wom

    Comment by Peymon Mottahedeh — February 2, 2016 @ 8:45 pm

    • It seems to me that it is taking the Holocaust forever to unravel.
      I keep SEEING the whole, “unravel” thing but it’s still here.
      So, I guess deniers need to get over it and admit that it happened, otherwise they’ll just keep waiting into eternity.
      Jeff

      Comment by Jeff K. — February 3, 2016 @ 12:28 pm

      • I wrote a blog post about “the Holocaust happened” at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/photos-that-prove-that-the-holocaust-happened/

        Comment by furtherglory — February 3, 2016 @ 1:03 pm

      • The holocost has many unscrupulous individuals and media, governmental supports who have a vested financial interest in seeing the lie continue and will under gird it’s rotten structure as long as possible then bolster it with more lies. A lot of metaphors, but suffice it to say – the lie will stand because those who benefit by it are in power and will see that IT DOES continue and that LIE summed up is the holocost!

        Comment by Diane King — February 3, 2016 @ 1:44 pm

        • If it comforts you to believe that I’m ok with it.
          You misspelled “Holocaust” again.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 3, 2016 @ 3:58 pm

          • Jeff – AGAIN, for the third time – ON PURPOSE – holo (hollow, baseless and corrupt – and yes, misspelled intentionally here too) and cost (costing the world a fortune in extortion fees) HOLOCOST is intentional! Not a complicated concept, especially third time around…. unless you didn’t read the first two!

            Comment by Diane King — February 4, 2016 @ 2:03 pm

            • I’m sorry, Diane, I have an odd sense of humor that pops up now and again.
              Yes, I understand what your meaning is.
              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 4, 2016 @ 3:40 pm

  2. Dear “Further Glory,” creator of the website scrapbookpagesblog

    I am a friend of Charles Krafft. We both admire your work exposing the falsity of the “Holocaust Hoax.”

    I wonder if you have ever covered the fact that the Holohoax promoters have had to withdraw their claim that Germans executed Jews in gas chambers in Germany. They have retreated to Auschwitz and other places in Poland, under the control of Russian Communists. The phony “gas chamber” shown to tourists at Auschwitz was constructed after WWII by those Communists.

    The Holohoax promoters have withdrawn their claim about Germans gassing Jews in places such as Dachau but that tardy confession leaves the Germans who were hung on the basis of that lie still dead.

    In April of 2015, before I moved from Los Angeles to Reno, Nevada I went to the Jewish run Museum of Tolerance. I had heard that the Jews now have abandoned the claim that Jews were executed/exterminated in “Death Camps” in Germany proper, only claiming now that the gas chamber deaths occurred in Poland.

    I wanted to confirm that what I had heard was true. I found it WAS! In one part of their “Shoah Show” they showed a map of Germany with all the camps shown. A female recorded voice stated while that map was being shown that “All the Death Camps were in Poland.”

    I wrote up an account of my trip to the MOT. Will attach it.

    Sending copies of this email to Charles Krafft, Bradley Smith and others.

    It is sickening to go to a Jewish propaganda mill like the Museum of Tolerance and watch busloads of young people march in to be brainwashed———— at American government expense!!!!!

    Zan Overall zn365@aol.com The Wise Old Man http://www.youtube.com/1wom

    Comment by zn365 — January 30, 2016 @ 1:36 pm

    • So zn365 you agree that they gassed Jews in Poland?

      Comment by srebrenica — January 30, 2016 @ 3:07 pm

      • Happy to say no homicidal gas chambers anywhere.
        Lots of fumigation chambers though.

        Jim Rizoli
        CCFIILE.COM
        RIZOLITV.COM

        Comment by jrizoli — January 30, 2016 @ 3:11 pm

        • I know you are Jim but I was asking zn365

          Comment by srebrenica — January 30, 2016 @ 3:19 pm

          • Srebrinca, do the constant changes to the official narrative , the “moving of the goalposts” so to speak, bother you?
            6 million gassed to now 3 or 4 million gassed (big difference) and several million shot, etc. just curious, since you’re asking questions…

            Comment by Schlageter — January 31, 2016 @ 5:15 am

            • The narrative changes don’t bother me, Schlageter, primarily because I never believed that the Nazis gassed 6 million Jews. That’s a fallacy that deniers promote because they understand that most people don’t read or understand history. It’s easy for deniers to squeak on about the Nazis gassing six million or the ever changing numbers of dead Jews at Auschwitz. The truth is that no Holocaust Historian ever said 6 million Jews were gassed or that 4 million Jews died at Auschwitz.
              Besides, not even the Soviets or Communist Poles ever claimed 4 million Jews. The plaque only said 4 million people.
              This is how you spell people:
              P E O P L E
              This is how you spell Jews:
              J E W S
              Also, the plaque never said anything about gassing.
              This is how you spell gassing:
              G A S S I N G
              This is how you spell murdered:
              M U R D E R E D
              See, that was easy. Even a denier can get that.
              Of course, you’ll continue to squeak about “6 million, 6 million” because you are incapable of doing anything else.
              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 1, 2016 @ 2:34 pm

          • Comment by eah — January 31, 2016 @ 5:28 am

            • Silence from the shit-eaters. Shocking.

              Comment by Schlageter — February 1, 2016 @ 4:44 am

            • If the plaque actually said “Jews” or “gassed” you might have a valid point. It does not. It says “murdered” and “people.”
              So, your point is invalid.
              Also, the plaque says “1940-1945.” The number of Jews in the entire KL system remained low until 1942. Auschwitz housed primarily Poles from 1940-1942.
              Also, serious Holocaust Historians never believed 4 million people died at Auschwitz.
              Hopefully I won’t have to bring this up again.
              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 1, 2016 @ 2:23 pm

              • My RedIce interview….My life and times with the Holocaust being the big thing now.
                http://ccfiile.com/Auschwitz.html

                Comment by jrizoli — February 1, 2016 @ 3:00 pm

                • Jim, does this have anything to do with what the plaque says or what it used to say?
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 1, 2016 @ 3:17 pm

                • I think Jim’s interview covers the WHOLE topic of Auschwitz, so, yes, it plays to the comedy of errors on the plaque.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 1, 2016 @ 3:21 pm

                • I think I’ve thoroughly covered what the plaque said and what it didn’t say so I think I’ll skip whatever Jim just posted.
                  I already watched the video that Jim did on Auschwitz, I think I’ll spare myself a repeat.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 1, 2016 @ 3:24 pm

                • You’re missing out on an amazing 2-hour interview. I’ve watched Jim’s Auschwitz videos and the tour through the camp. This was seemingly new, because of the interaction with the Red Ice Radio Host. Don’t be so dismissive.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 1, 2016 @ 6:43 pm

                • I’ll let you know when I have two hours to waste.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 1, 2016 @ 8:49 pm

                • Yes it’s pretty long but actually Jeff if it was only five minutes you
                  most likely would say the same.
                  Our stuff is not worth it to you but all the HoloHuxsters stuff is…..Go figure!
                  You’re have an affinity for lies.

                  Comment by jrizoli — February 3, 2016 @ 12:39 pm

                • 2 Thess 2:11: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. (This is in relation to rejecting the Lord Jesus and His Word, which also includes ALL TRUTH, 2 Thess 2:10). You reject the truth, you embrace the lie.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 3, 2016 @ 1:42 pm

                • No Diane, I don’t embrace lies. I accept the truth, without the slimy anti-Semitism or Hitler hero worship.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 3, 2016 @ 3:55 pm

                • You wrote: “I accept the truth.” You mean “the truth” as claimed by the True Believers. Meanwhile, the Holocaust deniers have a different “truth.” Who is to say which group is right when there is no proof of any of the numbers.

                  Comment by furtherglory — February 3, 2016 @ 4:28 pm

                • Perhaps a better way to express that would be I accept history without the slimy anti-Semitism or Hitler hero worship.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 3, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

                • Thanks, FG. Really appreciate your championing the truth. So I venture to say with Jeff’s comment, based on his accusation, he WORSHIPS the criminals, Roosevelt, Churchill … oh, and especially STALIN. That neither the communists nor the French nor British nor American’s couldn’t do ANYTHING wrong…. because they are well, you know, NOT “NAZI’s”. Skews the credibility of one who promotes such, negating the obvious and prevailing data.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 4, 2016 @ 8:24 am

                • Don’t be ridiculous, Diane.
                  I criticize Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin. Especially Stalin. Stalin was one of the most bloodthirsty, paranoid, functionally sociopathic dictators in history. He only surpasses Hitler because he was in power longer.
                  Stalin’s forced collectivization policies in the early 1930’s causes the death of up to 7 million people, with 3 million dead in the Ukraine. Stalin deported whole populations, causing hundreds of thousands or even millions of deaths.
                  Roosevelt was a devious, underhanded shyster and Churchill was a blowhard that interfered in military matters with disastrous results.
                  I’m a member of no one’s fan club and I worship nothing so give it a break.
                  Unlike you I can see both good and bad. I’ve even complimented Hitler on occasion. Nothing is completely good or evil.
                  Don’t make assumptions about me you can’t back up, Diane. It irritates me.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 4, 2016 @ 9:11 am

                • Not that ‘turnabout’ is fair play. I don’t work that way. The presumption, however, of another’s motives – mine,Jim’s,Hitler’s, National Socialists, invites the same evaluation of yours. You and Wolf BOTH do that concerning us. WE find it irritating to be so judged, by the way! Incidentally, I DO appreciate your sharing your viewpoint re: the villains of Yalta and Potsdam too for that matter.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 4, 2016 @ 1:34 pm

                • Jim, I will watch your shorter videos. I can tolerate those.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 3, 2016 @ 3:52 pm

                • Jeff…….fair enough.

                  Comment by jrizoli — February 3, 2016 @ 5:29 pm

    • Be careful if you visit the Museum of Tolerance. They have people watching the visitors and listening to everything they say. I have written two blog posts warning people about this: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/museum-of-tolerance/

      Comment by furtherglory — January 31, 2016 @ 7:02 am

    • For the curious, Charles occasionally posts here as who + dares + wings.
      I once clicked the link he put up out of curiosity, it leads back to his artwork.
      I have to say, I don’t know that much about art but I did find Charles’ artwork creepy but oddly compelling.
      Jeff

      Comment by Jeff K. — February 3, 2016 @ 12:41 pm

  3. Those pictures obviously depict huge shower rooms and in the lower picture, are those round holes in the ceiling POT LIGHTING? I realize these are NOT gas chambers nor could they sustain such a function. Did you have a picture of an actual one? Fred Leuchter provided one. Was wondering if you had another. Not to mention that since gassing was the execution du jour, and that the German camps were accused of such (later discovered that was NOT the case) there wouldn’t have been any gas chambers in Dachau anyway. Well put, FG

    Comment by Diane King — January 30, 2016 @ 1:02 pm

  4. At Dachau the last Comander tried to build one after those of Auschwitz were “not available” any more.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — January 30, 2016 @ 12:48 pm

    • You wrote: “At Dachau the last Comander tried to built one”

      What was it that the Commandant of Dachau tried to build? Are you saying that the Commandant of Dachau tried to build a gas chamber at Dachau, after the gas chambers at Auschwitz were destroyed? The alleged gas chamber at Dachau was built long before that.

      Comment by furtherglory — January 30, 2016 @ 12:59 pm

    • At Dachau the Germans tried to build a gas chamber, but they were only able to build four ones…against lice.

      Comment by hermie — January 30, 2016 @ 9:39 pm

      • Are you saying the “the Germans” at Dachau tried to build a homicidal gas chamber at Dachau, but were only able to build four gas chambers to kill lice? The disinfection chambers at Dachau were big enough to shove a few Jews inside. They could have killed a few Jews while, at the same time, disinfecting the clothes to kill the lice that spreads typhus.

        You can see photos of the disinfection chambers at Dachau on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/disinfection01.html

        Some tour guides still tell visitors that these disinfection chambers were used to kill Jews.

        Comment by furtherglory — January 31, 2016 @ 6:48 am

        • FG wrote: “Are you saying the “the Germans” at Dachau tried to build a homicidal gas chamber at Dachau, but were only able to build four gas chambers to kill lice?”

          No, I’m not. I was just trying to expose the absolute ridiculousness of wolf’s claim that the Germans were unable to build operational gas chambers to kill Jews at Dachau and Theresienstadt, while they were patently able to build very easily, without any problems at all, operational gas chambers to kill lice at every location where they needed such facilities.

          Comment by hermie — February 1, 2016 @ 6:05 am

    • From the USHMM web site:

      On December 17, 1942, the leaders of the United States, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union issued the first joint declaration officially noting the mass murder of European Jewry…

      Wolf, just to elaborate on your thinking here: long after it was known that the Allies intended to prosecute Germans for war and other crimes, and after it was very, very clear the war was lost, the commander of Dachau, on his own, decided it was so important to kill Jews that he wanted to build gas chambers at Dachau. I find that far-fetched, to say the least.

      And I guess despite what you claim was an obsession with secrecy about it, the Kommandant of Dachau not only knew about the plan/effort to exterminate the Jews, but wanted to personally continue with it — that also makes little sense to me.

      Comment by eah — January 31, 2016 @ 6:02 am

      • When American soldiers of the US Seventh Army arrived on April 29, 1945 to liberate the concentration camp at Dachau, they found that the inmates in the camp, who were predominantly Communists and other anti-Nazi political prisoners, had organized into an International Committee, headed by a Belgian medical doctor named Albert Guérisse, who was a captured British SOE agent.

        Guérisse was using the fake name of Patrick O’Leary and pretending to be Canadian. Patrick O’Leary spoke perfect English and he and his fellow Committee members were very anxious to give a guided tour of the camp to the American liberators and the newspaper reporters who accompanied them. They particularly wanted to show them the five gas chambers outside the prison compound in the new crematorium building, named Baracke X.

        Many of the soldiers and newspaper reporters who took this tour wrote their descriptions of the gas chambers, but none of them mentioned the bins that are on the outside wall. These bins, which were added later by the Americans, are claimed to have been used to put the Zyklon-B gas pellets into the so-called homicidal gas chamber. Anyone who is reading this, who lives in one of the 19 countries that has a Holocaust denial law, should forget that they read this.

        Visitors to Dachau should keep saying to themselves, as they tour the Memorial Site: “Don’t laugh, don’t laugh.”

        Comment by furtherglory — January 31, 2016 @ 6:29 am

  5. There were no homicidal gas chambers in Dachau or any of the camps that’s the latest information anyone that says the opposite are not telling the truth.

    Comment by jrizoli — January 30, 2016 @ 12:22 pm

    • There were no homicidal gas chambers in Dachau – that’s for sure. But how about this incredible method of mass killing proposed by former Dachau inmate Isaak Ochshorn, who gave this sworn affidavit to the war crimes investigators on 14th September 1945;-

      “The Jews were thrown alive into huge concrete mixers where they were milled into pulp. The material served as road plaster, hence these streets were commonly called ‘Judenstrassers’.”

      But before arriving at Dachau, Isaak was also in Auschwitz, where he actually witnessed an imaginary gas chamber! He described it as;-

      “looking like a beehive, with gas bombs thrown in. The crematoria adjoining it had many hundreds of ovens. In one week in October 1942 over 54,000 Jews were killed in these ovens. I would like to remark that the total figure of 54,287 is absolutely correct, for I remember this figure well.”

      Hmm! – Where did he get this number from. Perhaps he stood at the entrance steps to the undressing chamber and counted them all in; or did he work in the admin. block and had access to the files that recorded the weekly totals. But maybe the camp commandant was so thrilled with this amazingly high total that he couldn’t resist announcing it to everyone over the loud-speakers;-

      “Attention campers! – Our gallant Sondercommando teams have performed herculean efforts this week in putting to death a grand total of 54,287 Jews. This is a record! And as a reward, each of them will receive an extra turnip in their cabbage soup for this evening’s meal, plus a thimble-full of schnapps to celebrate their success. I will also instruct the camp orchestras to play triumphant marching music, including that ever popular hit song – ‘Tomorrow Belongs To Me’.”

      Comment by Talbot — January 30, 2016 @ 2:27 pm

      • That about sums it up, and the Holohuxsters would be proud.

        Jim Rizoli
        CCFIILE.COM
        RIZOLITV.COM

        Comment by jrizoli — January 30, 2016 @ 2:31 pm

      • Comment by hermie — January 30, 2016 @ 9:43 pm


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