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February 8, 2016

British students leave their brains at the gate on a trip to Auschwitz

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 2:29 pm
When HET students walked into the main Auschwitz camp, it looked something like this

When British HET students walked into the main Auschwitz camp in Jan. 2016, it looked something like this scene, taken 10 years ago

You can read about the latest Holocaust Educational Trust [HET] tour of Auschwitz in this news article:

http://www.suttonguardian.co.uk/news/14261657.

The following quote is from the news article, cited above:

Next, [on the tour] the gas chamber and crematorium [in the main Auschwitz camp]. Prisoners were told to remove their clothes before their “shower”, and even to remember which pegs they had left their possessions on, another perverse lie designed to keep order among the inmates.

End quote

My 2005 photo of the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

My 2005 photo of the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp shows no shower heads, nor pegs for hanging clothes

There were no shower heads in the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp, and no pegs, upon which the prisoners could hang their clothes.

The article includes this photo of the scratches made by the prisoners as they were dying in the gas chamber:

Fingernail scratches on walls of gas chamber

Fingernail scratches on walls of Auschwitz gas chamber

Notice that the scratches are near the ceiling of the gas chamber. The adults held the babies up so that they could leave their marks on the ceiling as proof that people were gassed in this room. [Don’t deny this, unless you want to go to prison in 19 countries.]

This quote is also from the news article:

Slave labour was used to empty the chambers once all life had been snuffed out.

Did any of those “slave labour” men ever explain that there were no pegs for the clothing, and no shower heads on the ceiling?

This quote is also from the news article:

The 7,000 prisoners remaining at Auschwitz were liberated by the Red Army on January 27, 1945.

Why did the Nazis leave 7,000 prisoners behind when they abandoned the Auschwitz death camp? Didn’t it occur to them that these 7,000 prisoners would testify against them in future war crimes trials?

Actually, the prisoners were given the chance to march out of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp, with German soldiers leading the way, tramping down the snow. The prisoners who stayed behind decided to stay in their warm beds and wait for the Soviet soldiers to rescue them.

31 Comments »

  1. And without any knowledge about European History and especially history of WWII and Holocaust what do these youngsters understand? As usual, after the visit of that place of sorrow the group pays a short visit to Krakow and ends the day in a dancing or so. Poland has established the third division of the SHOAH BUSINESS.

    Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — February 9, 2016 @ 8:44 am

  2. Now I’m confused.
    Isn’t that room a reconstruction?
    The Germans also converted that room into an air raid shelter. Why leave shower heads up when you convert a gas chamber into an air raid shelter?
    Isn’t that the whole point that deniers bring up? The room is a reconstruction. Would it make you feel better when the room was reconstructed that the Poles/Soviets put the shower heads back up?
    Jeff

    Comment by Jeff K. — February 8, 2016 @ 2:45 pm

    • I’m not surprised that you’re confused Jeff, because the image of the scratch marks on the wall of the chamber takes the holocaust well beyond the realm of fairy tales, and into complete and utter absurdity!

      The official story says that this structure was turned into an air-rad shelter after it had been used as a “homicidal gas chamber”, and that these scratch marks in the walls were caused by the poor souls desperately trying to save their lives gasping for air!

      Well, firstly; would not the victims entering the chamber, thinking they were about to take a shower, be immediately fearful upon seeing these scratches all over the walls and become restless and start to panic.

      Secondly; there is no conclusive evidence that these are human fingernail scratches. If the building was a later reconstruction, then one has to seriously take on board the notion that these marks were added later by workers using a chisel of some sort.

      Thirdly: is it likely that the Nazis would have converted the structure into an air-raid shelter without painting over these scratch-marks. Are we expected to believe that senior SS officers – maybe even the commandant and visiting dignitaries from Berlin – would sit in a chamber whose walls were covered from floor to ceiling in finger-nail scratch-marks from thousands of gassed prisoners – I think not!

      Comment by Talbot — February 8, 2016 @ 7:52 pm

      • “Well, firstly; would not the victims entering the chamber, thinking they were about to take a shower, be immediately fearful upon seeing these scratches all over the walls and become restless and start to panic.”
        Why would the Jews entering the room notice the scratches at all?
        I doubt the SS gave them a guided tour of the room to point out obscure details.
        Besides, once they were in the room it didn’t matter.
        You also said something about chisel marks. Are you saying they chiseled the wall for some reason? Or that they were clumsy with their chisels?
        My whole point was that part of FG’s statement included that there were shower heads and that they were no longer there. My point was that there was no reason for them to be there. The SS removed the shower heads when they remodeled the room.
        Jeff
        Jeff

        Comment by Jeff K. — February 9, 2016 @ 7:17 am

        • Edit:
          My apologies, you did say the scratches were put their deliberately.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 9, 2016 @ 7:19 am

      • “Thirdly: is it likely that the Nazis would have converted the structure into an air-raid shelter without painting over these scratch-marks. Are we expected to believe that senior SS officers – maybe even the commandant and visiting dignitaries from Berlin – would sit in a chamber whose walls were covered from floor to ceiling in finger-nail scratch-marks from thousands of gassed prisoners – I think not!”

        Why? It was an air raid shelter, not a ballroom.

        Comment by Jeff K. — February 9, 2016 @ 7:24 am

    • If that room was a reconstruction of a former gas chamber, the Communists who modified it after WW2 would have been able to drill the alleged holes for the introduction of Zyklon B at the right place, what they failed to do. Holes resealed with concrete would, of course, have left visible marks. Anybody who has already repaired concrete structures knows that. But the Communists who ‘reconstructed’ the Auschwitz gas chamber, downed a wall they shouldn’t have downed, so increasing the size of that room. They inadvertenty added 16 square meters to the original morgue / ‘gas chamber’ (78m2 >> 94m2) by removing four walls instead of three. Then they drilled the alleged holes for the introduction of Zyklon B. Logically (for a uniform gas diffusion), they drilled such holes at the center of the room, but at the center of THEIR room! Of course, they wouldn’t have made this big mistake if marks of the former holes had been visible. And even assuming they drilled those holes at a wrong place in spite of visible marks, where are such marks today?

      Does the location of these holes make any sense regarding the original room? And if it doesn’t, where are the resealing marks of the alleged ‘real’ holes?

      Comment by hermie — February 8, 2016 @ 9:25 pm

      • No extravagant funny dodge for that one? The believer team is seemingly on the decline…

        Comment by hermie — February 9, 2016 @ 7:19 pm

        • What else is there to say?
          The room is a reconstruction.
          No DENYING that!!!!! Get it????!!!!!????

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 9, 2016 @ 9:57 pm

          • Jeff wrote: “The room is a reconstruction. No DENYING that!!!!! Get it????!!!!!????”

            My post wasn’t about the Auschwitz ‘gas chamber’ being a reconstruction or not. That’s a fact now admitted by Holocaustians and openly stated on a sign displayed at Auschwitz.

            My post was about the alleged holes for the introduction of Zyklon B. Sorry you’ve been unable to get that. Sorry for you. Where were these holes located? At the locations where the Communists drilled holes after WW2? Somewhere else? Where? And where are the resealing marks if the Communists who drilled these holes, messed up with that?

            Comment by hermie — February 11, 2016 @ 8:22 pm

            • “My post was about the alleged holes for the introduction of Zyklon B. Sorry you’ve been unable to get that. Sorry for you. Where were these holes located? At the locations where the Communists drilled holes after WW2? Somewhere else? Where? And where are the resealing marks if the Communists who drilled these holes, messed up with that?”

              You seem a little obsessed about this.
              I, personally, could give a shit.
              I’ve never been in the room. I’m hoping to go some day but it’s probably going to be awhile.
              Do you think that making a fuss about a reconstructed room is going to rattle or panic me? So, the Poles/Soviets reconstructed the gas chamber out of the air raid shelter.
              So what.
              They missed some of the details or got the holes wrong.
              So what.
              This is not news. David Cole believes he broke this whole thing open in the early 90’s but the reality is that Pressac and FAURRISON both knew that the room was a reconstruction in the early 80’s.
              So sorry, Hermie.
              You swiped and missed.
              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 11, 2016 @ 9:50 pm

              • Jeff wrote: “They missed some of the details or got the holes wrong. So what.”

                So where are the [alleged] real holes today? Where were they located? No resealing marks? They just disappeared without a trace? Another amazing miracle of Holo-magic, I guess. The search for physical evidence is Holohoaxers’ worst nightmare, just like it is for all the other obscurantists of this world.

                Comment by hermie — February 18, 2016 @ 4:43 am

                • Jeff wrote: “They missed some of the details or got the holes wrong. So what.”

                  “So where are the [alleged] real holes today? Where were they located? No resealing marks? They just disappeared without a trace? Another amazing miracle of Holo-magic, I guess. The search for physical evidence is Holohoaxers’ worst nightmare, just like it is for all the other obscurantists of this world.”

                  Are we still on this?
                  You know, I’ve been reading a book on the Soviet Gulags. The book mentioned that the Russians rebuilt one as a tourist attraction (read: tourist trap).
                  If some of the details are wrong, does that mean that the Gulags never existed? That all of the eyewitness testimony and memoirs are all wrong?
                  Give it a rest.
                  The room is a reconstruction. Who knows what happened to the original roofs, doors, walls etc.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 18, 2016 @ 11:24 am

                • After dancing around this topic as you did, I think you’re ready for Dance With The Stars, Jeff.

                  Damn physical evidence! This material world is so anti-Semitic, a genuine Holocaust denier in fact..😉

                  Comment by hermie — February 19, 2016 @ 7:32 am

                • “After dancing around this topic as you did, I think you’re ready for Dance With The Stars, Jeff.”

                  Dancing keeps you young, Hermie. Some of those dancers on that show are pretty hot, wouldn’t mind that at all.

                  “Damn physical evidence! This material world is so anti-Semitic, a genuine Holocaust denier in fact.. ;-)”

                  Would you actually accept physical evidence without calling it a sham, a forgery?
                  Somehow I think not

                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 19, 2016 @ 7:44 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Dancing keeps you young, Hermie. Some of those dancers on that show are pretty hot, wouldn’t mind that at all.”

                  So you must be a guy incredibly attractive by now. I hope your wife won’t forget to thank furtherglory and his blog for that.😉

                  FG should rename his blog “Dance Academy for Holocaust believers”.

                  Jeff wrote: “Would you actually accept physical evidence without calling it a sham, a forgery?”

                  I don’t know. Almost sci-fi. The exterminationists never do that (i.e. bringing physical evidence of their claims).

                  And you, would you accept an absence of evidence (such as this one) as an evidence of absence?

                  Comment by hermie — February 19, 2016 @ 8:37 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Dancing keeps you young, Hermie. Some of those dancers on that show are pretty hot, wouldn’t mind that at all.”

                  “So you must be a guy incredibly attractive by now. I hope your wife won’t forget to thank furtherglory and his blog for that. ;-)”

                  I’ll go ahead and pass on her regards.😄

                  FG should rename his blog “Dance Academy for Holocaust believers”.

                  Jeff wrote: “Would you actually accept physical evidence without calling it a sham, a forgery?”

                  “I don’t know. Almost sci-fi. The exterminationists never do that (i.e. bringing physical evidence of their claims.”

                  I don’t know what you would accept by now.

                  “And you, would you accept an absence of evidence (such as this one) as an evidence of absence?”

                  That’s the thing. There is no “absence.”

                  In all my years of studying this, revisionist claims inevitably fall short.
                  For example, our recent discussion on alleged camps in the USSR.
                  Reading history the way that I do, I can’t figure when and where these camps were set up. Per revisionist claims, the Reinhard camps were transit camps.
                  All of those camps became operational in the Spring and Summer of 1942. Allegedly the Jews transited through to somewhere.
                  Where? We are talking about over a million men, women and children.
                  Gone.
                  So, where did they go?
                  You can’t answer that question. FG can’t answer that question. No revisionist can.
                  The best you have is Rudenko’s statement of camps with 33,000 people in them. But, how reliable is this statement? In the same statement he says the Nazis murdered what, 5.6 million people at Majdanek and Auschwitz?
                  Reitlinger debunked the whole “4 million” thing in the 50’s. Hoess placed the top amount at 2.5 million……and then stated that this was incorrect.
                  So, I have to conclude there is nothing to the revisionist thing. If no one can tell me how the Nazis managed to build and maintain these camps then I conclude they don’t exist, that the people the Soviets found were Soviet Jews the Germans locked up in local ghettos.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 19, 2016 @ 10:32 am

                • Jeff wrote: “So, where did they go? You can’t answer that question. FG can’t answer that question. No revisionist can.”

                  The answer is: They went where they are today, i.e. to Palestine, America, Western Europe, USSR, British countries, etc. It’s not because you don’t like the answer that nobody can answer it.

                  Jeff wrote: “That’s the thing. There is no “absence.””

                  Of course there is absence (lack of real evidence). That’s where Blobel and the secrecy thing supposedly save the day.

                  Jeff wrote: “So, I have to conclude there is nothing to the revisionist thing.”

                  Not everybody is lucky enough to have unimpeachable testimonial evidence at his disposal to ‘prove’ his case, especially the people ridiculously required to prove a negative. Holocaust and Bigfoot believers do have that luck. Good for them…

                  Jeff wrote: “If no one can tell me how the Nazis managed to build and maintain these camps then I conclude they don’t exist”

                  Too bad you’ve never wondered how the Nazis managed to bring the wood from entire forests into the Reinhardt camps to cremate million of dead bodies on giant grills and so exempt the Holohoaxers from ever having to provide us with any physical evidence of their extravagant claims.😉

                  Comment by hermie — February 20, 2016 @ 9:50 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “So, where did they go? You can’t answer that question. FG can’t answer that question. No revisionist can.”

                  “The answer is: They went where they are today, i.e. to Palestine, America, Western Europe, USSR, British countries, etc. It’s not because you don’t like the answer that nobody can answer it.”

                  So, they magically appeared in these countries? Transported by UFOs piloted by Big Foot?
                  Trucked in by friendly, neighborhood Nazis?
                  After being transported to magical camps that sprung out of the earth in the USSR?
                  That’s a neat trick.
                  How DID the Germans lose the war?

                  Seriously, please provide proof how these Jews made it to the above countries.

                  Jeff wrote: “That’s the thing. There is no “absence.””

                  “Of course there is absence (lack of real evidence). That’s where Blobel and the secrecy thing supposedly save the day.”

                  It’s easy to say that when any evidence provided is derided as a forgery, claimed as dragged out by torture or by witness intimidation.

                  Jeff wrote: “So, I have to conclude there is nothing to the revisionist thing.”

                  “Not everybody is lucky enough to have unimpeachable testimonial evidence at his disposal to ‘prove’ his case, especially the people ridiculously required to prove a negative.”

                  Well, you guys brought the whole thing up. It’s not our fault you can’t prove it.
                  “Holocaust and Bigfoot believers do have that luck. Good for them…”

                  Did you notice I also worked in Bigfoot?
                  I did that in your honor.

                  Jeff wrote: “If no one can tell me how the Nazis managed to build and maintain these camps then I conclude they don’t exist”

                  “Too bad you’ve never wondered how the Nazis managed to bring the wood from entire forests into the Reinhardt camps to cremate million of dead bodies on giant grills and so exempt the Holohoaxers from ever having to provide us with any physical evidence of their extravagant claims. ;-)”

                  It’s far easier to believe that than to believe the SS actually built camps in the war-torn, partisan overrun and famine ridden reaches of the occupied USSR.

                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 20, 2016 @ 10:06 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “The room is a reconstruction. Who knows what happened to the original roofs”

                  I do. The Nazis supposedly resealed the alleged Zyklon holes in that roof with concrete. And four holes were drilled through it at dumb nonsensical locations after the war. Nothing more, nothing less. What an unsolvable mystery!! No surprise no academic historian, archaeologist or engineer has been able to bring any physical evidence for those holes.😉

                  Comment by hermie — February 20, 2016 @ 10:03 pm

                • “I do. The Nazis supposedly resealed the alleged Zyklon holes in that roof with concrete.”

                  There, see, mystery solved. You answered your own question. Congrats.

                  “And four holes were drilled through it at dumb nonsensical locations after the war. Nothing more, nothing less. What an unsolvable mystery!! No surprise no academic historian, archaeologist or engineer has been able to bring any physical evidence for those holes. ;-)”

                  Obviously this subject means a lot to you, the whole reconstructed room thing.
                  I’m not sure why, we all know that the room is a reconstruction.
                  I don’t mind talking about it, I’m just not sure what else there is to say.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 20, 2016 @ 10:24 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “There, see, mystery solved. You answered your own question. Congrats.”

                  Only in a world where resealing marks are invisible and where cut rebars inside concrete can ‘heal’ and magically reconnect all by themselves. Perhaps on Pandora or Azeroth…

                  Comment by hermie — February 21, 2016 @ 4:56 am

                • Jeff wrote: “There, see, mystery solved. You answered your own question. Congrats.”

                  “Only in a world where resealing marks are invisible and where cut rebars inside concrete can ‘heal’ and magically reconnect all by themselves. Perhaps on Pandora or Azeroth…”

                  Well, Talbot thinks Poland is the land that time forgot. Maybe that’s why magic works there.

                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 21, 2016 @ 7:05 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Well, Talbot thinks Poland is the land that time forgot. Maybe that’s why magic works there.”

                  Maybe. The land of Great Wizard Paul Blobel’s most amazing miracles looks like a suitable candidate for the election of the most magical lands in this world. Finally makes sense…

                  Comment by hermie — February 21, 2016 @ 8:14 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Well, Talbot thinks Poland is the land that time forgot. Maybe that’s why magic works there.”

                  “Maybe. The land of Great Wizard Paul Blobel’s most amazing miracles looks like a suitable candidate for the election of the most magical lands in this world. Finally makes sense…”

                  Well, from what I remember from Harry Potter Dumbledore was in the area during WW II.
                  There you go, Dumbledore was responsible.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 21, 2016 @ 8:50 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Well, from what I remember from Harry Potter Dumbledore was in the area during WW II. There you go, Dumbledore was responsible.”

                  True. Hermione testified about this in Tome 3 or 4. Now we finally have an explanation making sense, a narrative consistent with the lack of physical traces, and unimpeachable evidence proving it.

                  Comment by hermie — February 21, 2016 @ 9:25 am


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