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February 24, 2016

Monuments at Treblinka prevent digging for evidence

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Stones with names of towns and villages, where the victims came from, are seen on the grounds of the former German Nazi Death Camp Treblinka, near the village of Treblinka, northeast Poland, Friday, Feb. 18, 2011. A German prosecutor has opened a murder investigation against a key witness in John Demjanjuk's trial on allegations the man may have been involved in mass killings at the Nazis' Treblinka concentration camp. Munich prosecutor Hans-Joachim Lutz told The Associated Press on Friday the probe is based on statements from former guards that Alex Nagorny, 94, took part in shootings at the camp in occupied Poland in 1941-42. (AP Photo/Alik Keplicz)

Stones with names of towns and villages, where the victims came from, are seen on the grounds of the former German Nazi Death Camp Treblinka (AP Photo/Alik Keplicz)

The following quote is from the news story which includes the photo shown above:

“Stones bear the names of hometowns and villages of Jews at the site of the Treblinka death camp in northeast Poland. About 875,000 European Jews were killed at Treblinka in a one-year span at the height of World War II. (Alik Keplicz, Associated Press file)”

According to Holocaust True Believers, Treblinka was an extermination camp where Jews were brought from Warsaw, and many small towns and villages in Poland, to be killed in gas chambers.  Allegedly, their bodies were burned and the ashes were buried inside the camp.  Years later, the alleged burial site was covered with stones, bearing the names of numerous places from which the Jews had been brought to Treblinka to be killed.

Holocaust deniers believe that Treblinka was a transit camp, where Jews were given a shower before being sent, to the east, across the Bug river into parts unknown.

Unfortunately, we will never know the truth, for sure, because the ground has been covered by stones in honor of the victims, so that no digging for evidence can be done.

Stones with names of towns from whence victims came

Stones with names of towns from whence victims were brought to Treblinka

Stone monument at Treblinka

Stone monument at Treblinka surrounded by smaller stones which prevent digging

The photograph above shows the back side of the memorial tombstone at Treblinka. When the death camp was in operation, there was a narrow dirt path through a “tube” covered with tree branches which led to the gas chamber building in this spot. Notice the Menorah at the top of the tombstone.

Stone monument on the site where gas chamber was allegedly located

Stone monument on the site of alleged gas chamber at Treblinka

Located on a knoll, at the top of a gentle slope, on the site of the former Treblinka extermination camp, is a large circular area with 17,000 stones of various sizes and colors set into concrete, which represents a symbolic cemetery, which is shown in my photos above.

When I visited Treblinka in October 1998, my private tour guide told me that 130 of the stones have the names of the cities or towns from which the victims were deported to the death camp. The guide told me that many relatives, of those who died here, come to the symbolic cemetery and are disappointed to find that their village is not named on any of the stones.

According to a pamphlet, which I purchased at the Visitor’s Center, “The great monument in Treblinka is a homage of the Polish people to those ashes lie under the concrete plates of the symbolic cemetery. It is one of the most tragic monuments of martyrdom in Poland.”

My tour guide informed me that the ashes of the 800,000 people, who were murdered at Treblinka, were dumped in this area and are now hidden underneath the concrete of the symbolic cemetery and under the grass and tiny flowers which cover the area.

One of the 17,000 symbolic stones represents the city of Kielce in central Poland, where 42 Jews were killed by a mob of Polish citizens in a pogrom on July 4, 1946, long after the Nazi occupation had ended.

Today Kielce is a modern industrial city with a population of 210,000, located between Warsaw and Krakow. In 1939, the Jewish population in the city was around 25,000, although until the early 1800s, Jews had been barred from living in the city. After the 1946 pogrom, many of the 300,000 Polish Holocaust survivors fled Poland and settled in other countries.

In 1968 there was more violence against the Jews in Poland, and almost all of the survivors were forced to leave.

Since my visit to Treblinka in 1998, I have learned that some tour guides now tell visitors that the number of 17,000 stones in the symbolic cemetery represents the highest number of Jews that were gassed in a single day when the camp was in operation. Others say that the number 17,000 represents the number of Jewish communities that were destroyed in the Holocaust.

According to the pamphlet which I obtained from the Visitor’s Center, the Treblinka memorial site was built between 1959 and 1963. In February 1960, the Warsaw Regional Council selected the designs of Polish sculptor Franciszek Duszenko and Polish architect Adam Haupt for the memorial stone and the Symbolic Cemetery.

According to the Warsaw Regional Council, the design of the symbolic cemetery would create a field of jagged stones that suggest a cemetery consisting of 17,000 stones with 700 of the stones inscribed with the names of the Jewish villages and communities in Poland that were obliterated by the Holocaust.

Symbolic cemetery with simulated burning pit in foreground

Symbolic cemetery at Treblinka has simulated burning pit in foreground

Stone commemorating victims from Sandomierz

Treblinka stone commemorating victims from Sandomierz

Symbolic cemetery in Treblinka

Stone in honor of victims sent from Warsaw

The 800,000 bodies, which had allegedly been buried previously at Treblinka, were later dug up and then cremated on the orders of Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler, after he had visited the camp in 1943, according to Martin Gilbert. This project allegedly required three months of intense labor by 1,000 Jewish workers who were forced to perform this grisly task in an attempt to destroy the evidence of alleged mass murder at Treblinka.

Monument at Treblinka recreates the burning pits

Monument at Treblinka recreates burning pits where the bodies of Jews were burned

According to my tour guide, on my trip to Treblinka in 1998, the first gas chambers at Treblinka used carbon monoxide. The 10 new gas chambers used the poison gas known as Zyklon-B, according to the pamphlet which I purchased at the Visitor’s Center.

According to the True Believer version of history, Treblinka did not have delousing chambers; all the clothing taken from the prisoners was sent to the Majdanek camp to be disinfected with Zyklon-B before being sent to Germany. What? The Nazis couldn’t spare some of the Zyklon-B, used at Treblinka, to delouse the clothing?

A short distance farther up the slope, to the east of the gas chambers at Treblinka, was located the “cremation pyres” according to a map in the camp pamphlet which I purchased at Treblinka.

Strangely, none of the three Operation Reinhard extermination camps had a crematorium for burning the bodies of the 1.5 million Jews who were killed in these camps. Of the other five extermination camps which were in operation during the same period (Chelmno, Sobibor, Belzec, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau), only Auschwitz-Birkenau and Majdanek, which also functioned as forced labor camps, had crematoria with ovens for burning the bodies.

It is hard for me to believe that the Nazis did such poor prior planning of the extermination of the Jews in the death camps.

One of the 40 prisoners who escaped from Treblinka, and lived to tell about it, was Abraham Bomba, a Jew who was born in 1913 in Germany, but raised in Czestochowa, Poland. Bomba was one of the 1,000 Jews who lived in the barracks in a separate section of the Treblinka II camp and worked for the Germans who ran the death camp. Bomba was a barber and his job was cutting the hair of the victims inside the gas chamber, just before they were gassed. In 1990, he told about his experience in the camp in a video-taped interview for the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. The quote below is from the transcript of his interview:

“And now I want to tell you, I want to tell you about the thing…the gas chamber. It was, they ask me already about this thing. The gas chamber, how it looked. Very simple. Was all concrete. There was no window. There was nothing in it. Beside, on top of you, there was wires, and it looked like, you know, the water going to come out from it. Had two doors. Steel doors. From one side and from the other side. The people went in to the gas chamber from the one side. Like myself, I was in it, doing the job as a barber. When it was full the gas chamber–the size of it was…I would say 18 by 18, or 18 by 17, I didn’t measure that time, just a look like I would say I look here the room around, I wouldn’t say exactly how big it is. And they pushed in as many as they could. It was not allowed to have the people standing up with their hands down because there is not enough room, but when people raised their hand like that there was more room to each other. And on top of that they throw in kids, 2, 3, 4 years old kids, on top of them. And we came out. The whole thing it took I would say between five and seven minute. The door opened up, not from the side they went in but the side from the other side and from the other side the…the group…people working in Treblinka number 2, which their job was only about dead people. They took out the corpses. Some of them dead and some of them still alive. They dragged them to the ditches, and over there they covered them. Big ditches, and they covered them. That was the beginning of Treblinka.”

After each gassing, the Jewish workers at Treblinka had to clean up in preparation for the next batch of victims, according to Abraham Bomba. The clothing that had been taken off by the victims had to be removed and put into piles for sorting before being sent on the next empty transport train to Lublin. Everything was done with great efficiency in this assembly-line murder camp, and nothing was wasted. All of the clothes and valuables, taken from the Jews when they arrived at Treblinka, were sent to the Majdanek camp in a suburb of Lublin where everything was disinfected before being sent to Germany and given to civilians.

In his 1990 interview at the USHMM, Bomba described what happened next. Below is a quote from the transcript of his interview:

“People went in through the gate. Now we know what the gate was, it was the way to the gas chamber and we have never see them again. That was the first hour we came in. After that, we, the people, 18 or 16 people…more people came in from the…working people, they worked already before, in the gas chamber, we had a order to clean up the place. Clean up the place–is not something you can take and clean. It was horrible. But in five, ten minutes this place had to look spotless. And it looked spotless. Like there was never nobody on the place, so the next transport when it comes in, they shouldn’t see what’s going on. We were cleaning up in the outside. Tell you what mean cleaning up: taking away all the clothes, to those places where the clothes were. Now, not only the clothes, all the papers, all the money, all the, the…whatever somebody had with him. And they had a lot of things with them. Pots and pans they had with them. Other things they had with them. We cleaned that up.”

 

81 Comments »

  1. The Jewish Virtual Library claims;- “In January 2012, British forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls uncovered mass graves in the Treblinka camp that were previously hidden underground. Using special, ground-penetrating radar equipment and other advanced technology so as not to cause complications with Jewish law which forbids disturbing burial sites, Colls and her team managed to uncover graves at the camp where it is widely held that the Nazi’s murdered more than 850,000 people, the vast majority Jews.”

    Well – no, she didn’t actually uncover any mass graves at the Treblinka II site. Caroline found some animal bones; a shark’s tooth; and some material which she claimed – without any forensic examination – were cremated human remains. She did carry out an archaeological dig at a known cemetery at Treblinka 1, where a single corpse was exhumed. But this had nothing to do with the alleged genocide at Treblinka II.

    The JVL is also being very coy when it says;- “…at the camp where it is widely held that the Nazi’s murdered more than 850,000 people…”). The JVL obviously does not feel confident enough to definitively say outright that the Nazis murdered more than 850,000 victims there, but just says “it is widely held” – and that, is actually to their credit.

    Comment by Talbot — February 25, 2016 @ 8:33 am

    • Caroline Colls big discoveries were a big disappointment, to the HoloHuxsters. Wow….a shark tooth, and some other unrelated bones.
      That sure shows that 6 billion zillion were killed there. Does the amount of the lie really mean anything when nothing happened there.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 8:40 am

      • At some point, they’ll have to cry UNCLE and admit it was all a scam and go home and leave the rest of us alone – FINALLY!

        Comment by Diane King — February 25, 2016 @ 8:56 pm

    • Rosenblatts HoloHuxsters liars.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 8:42 am

      • I always equate the name of Herman Rosenblatt with that of Sir Issac Newton who discovered the nature of gravity back in the 18th century. Newton was inspired by an apple that fell from above, and lo-and-behold, so was Mr Rosenblatt. He, apparently, had an apple that arrived over the perimeter fence each day. I don’t know if he ever received a banana or an apricot when the apple harvesting season was over.

        Comment by Talbot — February 25, 2016 @ 9:31 am

        • Sir Issac Newton who discovered the nature of gravity back in the 18th century

          Newton died in 1726 — the Principia was published in 1689 — his ‘discovery’ of gravity (his mathematical formulation of the physical phenomenon) likely occurred significantly earlier (he was born in 1642) — ie in the 17th century.

          Comment by eah — February 26, 2016 @ 2:06 pm

          • Hey that’s pretty. You more than get your money’s worth here. Tomorrow can we discuss why Dr. Hawkings theory on black holes is flawed like a son of a bitch.

            Comment by Tim — February 26, 2016 @ 4:37 pm

  2. FG writes:- “According to my tour guide, on my trip to Treblinka in 1998, the first gas chambers at Treblinka used carbon monoxide. The 10 new gas chambers used the poison gas known as Zyklon-B, according to the pamphlet which I purchased at the Visitor’s Center.”

    But Wikipedia claims;- “The killing process at Treblinka differed significantly from the method used at Auschwitz and Majdanek, where the poison gas Zyklon B (hydrogen cyanide) was used. At Treblinka, Sobibór, and Bełżec, the victims died from suffocation and carbon monoxide poisoning.”

    So, back in 1998, the official version of the “gassings” at Treblinka specified both Zyklon-B, and carbon-monoxide poisoning. So one has to ask why has Wikipedia changed the story. I was led to understand that Zyklon-B was never used at Treblinka – but is this another example of the holocausters altering the narrative to suit their purposes. It would appear that If they feel that a new explanation or description is required, then they just go ahead and change the information without producing any evidence to justify it.

    Comment by Talbot — February 25, 2016 @ 6:45 am

    • “So, back in 1998, the official version of the “gassings” at Treblinka specified both Zyklon-B, and carbon-monoxide poisoning. So one has to ask why has Wikipedia changed the story. I was led to understand that Zyklon-B was never used at Treblinka – but is this another example of the holocausters altering the narrative to suit their purposes. It would appear that If they feel that a new explanation or description is required, then they just go ahead and change the information without producing any evidence to justify it.”

      It’s odd but I’ve never seen any other source that mentions Zyclon-B used at Treblinka.
      I think the guidebook mixed up Treblinka and Majdanek where both carbon monoxide and ZB were used.
      Jeff

      Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 7:18 am

      • Jeff I guess you must have missed the part when all the different Holohucksters said all these different things they use to do the dastardly deed steam, electrocution, carbon monoxide diesel they ZB or whatever silly thing they can think of they used it but the official story stopped with carbon monoxide.
        So if you can’t even get it straight what the murder weapon was I wouldn’t think I wouldnt put too much faith and everything else.

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 7:56 am

        • “Jeff I guess you must have missed the part when all the different Holohucksters said all these different things they use to do the dastardly deed steam, electrocution, carbon monoxide diesel they ZB or whatever silly thing they can think of they used it but the official story stopped with carbon monoxide.
          So if you can’t even get it straight what the murder weapon was I wouldn’t think I wouldnt put too much faith”

          Well, all of that makes more sense to me than Jews somehow winding up in some type of mythical camp system in the Soviet Union that no denier can prove.

          Did the Nazis fly them there on magic carpets?
          Feed them with specially prepared food from Hogwarts?
          You tell me, Jim.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 8:16 am

          • Jeff about the Jews going to the Soviet Union if I want to take the Holohucksters VIEW yes that’s probably how they went.
            If the Holohuxsters can believe in imaginary things so can we. I wouldn’t doubt the Harry Potter movies were based on the same type of people’s thoughts as the whole hoax.
            I’m sure of the Jews can really relate well to Harry Potter movies because they been living it all their lives.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 8:31 am

            • “If the Holohuxsters can believe in imaginary things so can we.”

              So, it IS all in your imagination. Good to know.

              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 9:01 am

      • I wrote about the gas chambers at Majdanek on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Majdanek/Majdanek02.html

        If you believe in the gas chambers at Majdanek, there is no hope for you. You have been so brain-washed by the Holohoaxers that you have no hope of recovery.

        Comment by furtherglory — February 25, 2016 @ 8:27 am

        • Then I guess there is no hope for me.

          Naturally I’m still waiting on someone to tell me where all these Jews went.

          No one knows.

          The denier perspective:
          The Nazis didn’t kill any Jews.
          But, we can’t tell you what happened to them.

          We THINK, we GUESS, that they somehow wound up in the USSR. Somewhere. We don’t know where.
          We have no proof, just a guess.
          But, it’s up to YOU, real historians, to prove we are wrong.

          Yup, I can really get on board with that whole idea.
          The Denier religion relies on faith, not facts.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 8:59 am

          • Jeff…..back at ya….870,000 just disappeared…..poof no trace. LOL
            Wait…..they ended up in Russia.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 9:34 am

            • Alien Abduction.

              Comment by Tim — February 25, 2016 @ 10:55 am

  3. I can see we’re making some headway with Jeff little by little he’s getting it. I know he has some intelligence there it’s just a matter of time for all the pieces fit in. It takes a long time to de program people but with a little patience that can happen especially when the truth is brought out in them.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 12:28 am

  4. Okay,this is one hot topic. I ain’t never seen this many comments pop up on any given article,in one day. These comments all popped up inside a 6 hour time frame. I think I counted 22 comments on this topic. I ain’t never seen that amount before.

    Comment by Tim — February 24, 2016 @ 8:10 pm

    • The reason why Treblinka is such a hot topic is because you have people that have common sense and have logical thinking and then you have people that like to believe that 870000 + people were killed and just disappeared with no trace. And the lmurder weapon disappeared with no trace. And the witnesses who made all the statements that exterminations happened in the camp didn’t even see what happened but made plenty of comments to get there views put into the historical record No facts just whatever came to their mind they printed. That’s why this is an important topic because in Auschwitz you can see buildings there but Treblinka there’s nothing there so the whole story had to be made up from the ground and they sure have done a nice job making this story up they already have the number of how many people they say died so now that’s all he had to do is make up a story to back it up – too bad for them it’s all a lie.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 8:18 pm

    • I think I annoy Jim somewhat.
      I think it’s something I said.
      Jeff

      Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 10:03 pm

      • How about if I book the two of y’all in at The MGM in Vegas. Fully sanctioned fight by the WBA. Schedule it for 12 rounds.

        Comment by Tim — February 25, 2016 @ 6:42 am

        • 😆
          That’s funny.

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 7:11 am

  5. digging for evidence

    aka forensic examinations normally expected/required in order to prove a (claimed) crime of such magnitude

    Comment by eah — February 24, 2016 @ 11:54 am

  6. FG writes;- “a large circular area with 17,000 stones of various sizes and colors set into concrete, which represents a symbolic cemetery”…”when I visited Treblinka in October 1998, my private tour guide told me that 130 of the stones have the names of the cities or towns from which the victims were deported to the death camp”…”Since my visit to Treblinka in 1998, I have learned that some tour guides now tell visitors that the number of 17,000 stones in the symbolic cemetery represents the highest number of Jews that were gassed in a single day when the camp was in operation. Others say that the number 17,000 represents the number of Jewish communities that were destroyed in the Holocaust.”

    Isn’t it interesting that the holocaustians change the official story at will – a sure sign that nothing is true, Everything is made up on the hoof according to the prevailing mood of the times. As long as the general public continues to believe in these stories then they just keep spoon-feeding them any old tosh that they will accept as plausible.

    Another example of how the storyline changes is the head-shaving business. Some accounts say that it took place before the victims entered the gas chamber – in a hut at the end of the “tube”: one of the shavers claimed that he and his team of barbers were employed carrying out this deed while the women were in the gas chamber itself: while other “witnesses” says that the hair was shaved off the heads of the corpses in the open air after their removal from the chambers.

    The holocaust is all about horror, pathos, and emotional blackmail – and to keep the lucrative economic and political scam rolling along nicely, then these three ingredients must be constantly ratcheted up, in order to keep the public fully on-board.

    Comment by Talbot — February 24, 2016 @ 11:16 am

    • I have updated my blog post in order to tell the story of Abraham Bomba who cut the hair of the victims at Treblinka.

      Comment by furtherglory — February 24, 2016 @ 11:28 am

      • Abraham Bomba writes;- “When it was full the gas chamber–the size of it was…I would say 18 by 18, or 18 by 17, I didn’t measure that time, just a look like I would say I look here the room around, I wouldn’t say exactly how big it is.”

        He doesn’t know the size of any gas chambers – because they didn’t exist. But he wants to appear knowledgeable and authoritative, so he comes out with a size that he’s plucked from out of thin air – hoping that it sounds plausible. But he finishes his sentence hedging his bet, by claiming “I wouldn’t say exactly how big it is”. Now, he does this, just in case the official narrative changes in the future, and these chambers turn into twice the size, or become rectangular in shape rather than square – and thus he would be exposed as a liar.

        Bomba continues;- “And they pushed in as many as they could. It was not allowed to have the people standing up with their hands down because there is not enough room, but when people raised their hand like that there was more room to each other. And on top of that they throw in kids, 2, 3, 4 years old kids, on top of them. And we came out”.

        This is a perfect example of how these holocausters ratchet up the horror and the inhumanity of the process. They can’t resist adding harrowing tales of adults being crammed together, with young children thrown in over their heads. But if he and his fellow barbers were still inside the chamber at this stage – which he seems to claim, then they must have had infants and babies landing on the top of them as well. Surely it would be very difficult to extricate yourself from this tangled mass of humanity and exit through the door! The story of the inmates putting their hands up may well be partly true however – because, as they passed through the fumigation chambers at Treblinka, the Ukrainian or SS disinfector on duty would tell them to raise their hands, so they could be fumigated under their armpits.

        He goes on to claim;- “The whole thing it took I would say between five and seven minute.”

        Oh yeah! – I think you are telling us a porky-pie there, Aby. Although carbon-monoxide is indeed fatal in enclosed spaces, I would imagine it would take at least two or three times as long to ensure everyone was dead. But of course, he once again “ups the horror” by claiming;-

        “The door opened up, not from the side they went in but the side from the other side and from the other side the…the group…people working in Treblinka number 2, which their job was only about dead people. They took out the corpses. Some of them dead and some of them still alive.”

        This claim is simply absurd, Why would the Nazis go to all the trouble of building these complex gas chambers, which are designed to kill everyone inside, but cut the process short leaving many of them still alive. So what happened to these poor souls then, Aby – were they shot by the SS; buried in the mass graves while still alive; or were they left in the chamber for the next batch to arrive so that they could be gassed twice. Maybe they were taken on a stretcher to the lazarette where they could be treated for carbon-monoxide poisoning, and once they had recovered, sent round again for another gassing session.

        Comment by Talbot — February 24, 2016 @ 2:38 pm

        • This video will clear up some arguments about the ridiculous claims of these people.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 2:52 pm

          • Excellent video – the holocausters have got some explaining to do! They have to tell us, why all these people were transferred onwards from Treblinka to Maidanek, when they claim that the former was purely a death camp.

            My favourite moment was the gentleman who replied to the question;- “What happened first; what did they make you do first?”

            Now I thought he was going to say something like;- “The SS were bellowing out raus, raus, schnell, schell on the ramp, and I climbed out of the cattle truck to be confronted by fearsome Ukrainian guards who were lashing out at the poor victims with their leather whips, while the ferocious guard dogs attacked those who were too slow in leaving the trains.”

            But instead, he just said matter-of-factly;- “Nothing – they made me very comfortable, they gave me something to eat.”

            Oh dear! – this guy is not going to get very far in his career within the holocaust industry. Michael Berembaum and his chums will be very disappointed with this sort of response. They want horror – and plenty of it!

            Comment by Talbot — February 24, 2016 @ 4:12 pm

            • Treblinka….
              From all investigations……..
              Drum roll please….
              3. Assessment of the Investigations
              In her previously cited report, Rachel Auerbach spoke pompously of
              “physical evidence” and “corpora delicti.” But in fact neither the Soviets nor
              the Poles uncovered even the slightest scrap of proof that Treblinka II oper-
              ated as an extermination camp. The Soviets, in their report of August 24, 1944
              – cited in section 1 of this chapter – were compelled to make the following
              admission:
              “At the present it is difficult to uncover the traces and secrets of this
              oven for the cremation of people, but based upon the available data, one
              can picture it.”
              Even the investigations performed by ukaszkiewicz proved to be a com-
              plete failure in terms of this central question. He arranged excavation at a
              definite spot in the camp where, according to the witness S. Rajzman, a mass
              grave was located, but discovered nothing of the kind. He had trenches dug,
              10 to 15 m long and 1.5 m deep, at the places where, according to witnesses,
              the two alleged gassing buildings had stood, yet merely encountered “undis-
              turbed layers of earth.” To be sure, he did find skulls, but without gunshot
              wounds. All the evidence he examined (coins, documents, rags, containers,
              remnants of various objects) show merely that there was a camp at that place,
              and the human remains as well as the ashes prove only that bodies were buried
              or cremated in the camp. Nothing produced even a trace of evidence for mass
              murder, to say nothing of such a crime against several hundred thousand peo-
              ple. Among the objects discovered, the skulls as well as the human body parts.

              I guess that shuts down the Treblinka case
              Nothing out of the ordinary found there and definitely no 800,000 people buried there!

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 4:19 pm

            • Again…. Treblinka was a transit camp no extermination happened there. Sure people died there you’ll probably find a couple hundred graves here and there but that’s about it.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 4:25 pm

            • Another glaring discrepancy in Bomba’s account is his insistence that the gas chamber was built entirely of concrete. Sorry, Aby, but the official fairy tale is that it was built with second-hand bricks, that came from the toppled chimney of a disused glass factory in nearby Malkinia.

              Comment by Talbot — February 24, 2016 @ 4:33 pm

              • “Another glaring discrepancy in Bomba’s account is his insistence that the gas chamber was built entirely of concrete. Sorry, Aby, but the official fairy tale is that it was built with second-hand bricks, that came from the toppled chimney of a disused glass factory in nearby Malkinia.”

                Oh, I guess the SS forgot to give Bomba a full tour of the gas chambers…..including their history.

                You see, there were two generations of gas chambers.

                It was really rude of the SS to not do this. I thought the Germans were a polite people.

                Oh well.

                Jeff

                Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 5:58 pm

                • Jeff …..you mention Bomba just to let you know, He committed suicide probly because he couldn’t live with the lies he said for all these years that should tell you something.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 6:14 pm

                • Or, he committed suicide because he could no longer deal with the memories of Treblinka.
                  Primo Levy also committed suicide, probably for the same reason.
                  You haven’t answered my query about where the Jews went after they “transited” through Treblinka.
                  Do you not know?
                  Or, is it not listed in any of your denier material?
                  None of your denier buddies know?
                  No?

                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

                • I gave you my answer should be there.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 6:55 pm

                • So what’s your take on the material used to build these alleged “gas chambers” at Treblinka then, Jeff? Bomba claims that he worked inside them on a regular basis, so he ought to know what he’s talking about. But he never told us whether it was in the old or new block of chambers that he carried out his tasks.

                  Comment by Talbot — February 24, 2016 @ 6:59 pm

        • Abraham Bomba writes;- “When it was full the gas chamber–the size of it was…I would say 18 by 18, or 18 by 17, I didn’t measure that time, just a look like I would say I look here the room around, I wouldn’t say exactly how big it is.”

          “He doesn’t know the size of any gas chambers – because they didn’t exist. But he wants to appear knowledgeable and authoritative, so he comes out with a size that he’s plucked from out of thin air – hoping that it sounds plausible. But he finishes his sentence hedging his bet, by claiming “I wouldn’t say exactly how big it is”. Now, he does this, just in case the official narrative changes in the future, and these chambers turn into twice the size, or become rectangular in shape rather than square – and thus he would be exposed as a liar.”

          So, should the SS allowed him to get out a tape measure and measure each chamber? Just so he could be sure?
          Then, perhaps, they could give him a guided tour of the camp, you know, just so he would know.
          After that, they could take him up in a plane so that he could accurately describe and map the place.

          Bomba continues;- “And they pushed in as many as they could. It was not allowed to have the people standing up with their hands down because there is not enough room, but when people raised their hand like that there was more room to each other. And on top of that they throw in kids, 2, 3, 4 years old kids, on top of them. And we came out”.

          “This is a perfect example of how these holocausters ratchet up the horror and the inhumanity of the process. They can’t resist adding harrowing tales of adults being crammed together, with young children thrown in over their heads. But if he and his fellow barbers were still inside the chamber at this stage – which he seems to claim, then they must have had infants and babies landing on the top of them as well. Surely it would be very difficult to extricate yourself from this tangled mass of humanity and exit through the door!”

          Well, maybe they said “excuse me” and the people let them leave.

          “The story of the inmates putting their hands up may well be partly true however – because, as they passed through the fumigation chambers at Treblinka, the Ukrainian or SS disinfector on duty would tell them to raise their hands, so they could be fumigated under their armpits.”

          That reminds me of the old deodorant commercial, “Raise your hands if you are sure!!!”
          How were they fumigated, exactly? The Germans didn’t have DDT.

          He goes on to claim;- “The whole thing it took I would say between five and seven minute.”

          “Oh yeah! – I think you are telling us a porky-pie there, Aby. Although carbon-monoxide is indeed fatal in enclosed spaces, I would imagine it would take at least two or three times as long to ensure everyone was dead. But of course, he once again “ups the horror” by claiming;-”

          Crap, I guess the SS forgot to give him a stopwatch to go along with his tape measure. After all, if he had a wristwatch the SS or Ukrainians took that from him when he arrived at the camp.
          The SS didn’t like the Jews but that didn’t stop them from stealing from them.

          “The door opened up, not from the side they went in but the side from the other side and from the other side the…the group…people working in Treblinka number 2, which their job was only about dead people. They took out the corpses. Some of them dead and some of them still alive.”

          “This claim is simply absurd, Why would the Nazis go to all the trouble of building these complex gas chambers, which are designed to kill everyone inside, but cut the process short leaving many of them still alive.”

          Well, the process wasn’t exact. In rooms packed full of people it would be hard to tell if everyone was dead. An unconscious person looks dead. The Sondercommando that worked in Sobibor and Treblinka talked about victims who would revive a little once they were removed. The SS would either shoot them or have them buried while still alive.

          “So what happened to these poor souls then, Aby – were they shot by the SS; buried in the mass graves while still alive; or were they left in the chamber for the next batch to arrive so that they could be gassed twice. Maybe they were taken on a stretcher to the lazarette where they could be treated for carbon-monoxide poisoning, and once they had recovered, sent round again for another gassing session.”

          I answere that question above.

          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 3:00 pm

          • Jeff …the Holohuxsters couldn’t even get their act together on what the process was that killed everyone some say electrocution some say gas you name it some say all the air was Sucked out of the toom….everyone had a different view well you’d be happy to know after all the lies and backsliding they settled on one here it is…

            Quote
            In 1951, Léon Poliakov used the ‘Gerstein Report’189 in order to give sub-stance to the rumor of the ‘extermination camps’ in Poland. He quoted a long excerpt from it and concluded as follows:
            “There is little to add to this description, which holds good for Treb-linka and Sobibor as well as for the Belzec camp. The latter installations
            were constructed in almost the very same way, and also used the exhaust
            carbon monoxide gases from Diesel motors as the death agent.”
            Two years later, Gerald Reitlinger took up Poliakov’s claims in his work
            The Final Solution,which rapidly became the classic of official historio-graphy and thereby ultimately asserted diesel exhaust gases as the extermina-
            tion method in the ‘eastern extermination camps.
            Therefore it owes mainly to the ‘Gerstein Report’ that Treblinka, just like Belzec and Sobibór, received its diesel engine, and the steam chambers were banished to the junk yard of history. By means of this propaganda maneuver, official historiography raised the
            carbon monoxide chambers of Treblinka (as well as of the two other ‘eastern extermination camps’) at last to the status of ‘certain historical fact.’

            I bet you have an excuse for that one to Jeff
            You keep showing your ignorance of the truth by believing the lies of these people why can’t you just admit when you’re wrong that these people did not see things straight that’s for sure and they are all liars. In fact they didn’t see anything they weren’t even there.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 3:19 pm

            • I wrote about the Gerstein Report on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/kurt-gerstein-and-heinrich-himmler-both-allegedly-committed-suicide/

              Comment by furtherglory — February 24, 2016 @ 3:29 pm

              • If you think the Gerstein report is bad you should read the report that the Russians made when they entered and took over the camps…..talking about lies they set it all up the other ones also…that was the start that showed everybody the false atrocity stories that happened there everyone else just borrowed from what they said and so now we have a complete set of lies of what happened in the camp all started by the Russians.
                Let’s not forget the Russians also said 3 million people were killed here and they said four million people were killed in Auschwitz so I would think they were not to be trusted with with their information I guess the Russians like to lie.
                Well they did a great job here!

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 3:43 pm

                • I’ll of your rambling means nothing if you can’t explain where the Jews went.
                  So, you lose.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 5:50 pm

            • I don’t care about any of that.
              You have not answered the question I put to you:
              If the OR camps were transit camps, where were the Jews transited TO?
              If they were transited somewhere there is a trail.
              Please provide proof of that trail.
              I don’t give a crap about Jews boiled like lobsters, electrocuted, zapped by lasers, shot into space or incinerated by atomic bombs.
              I don’t care about shrunken heads, skin lampshades
              or slow acting gas that allowed Jews to bury themselves.
              None of that has to do with what I asked you.
              What I want to know is this:
              Where were the Jews deported to?
              How were these camps or whatever set up in the conditions I described, with a full fledged military assault under way?
              Can you, or any denier, answer the questions that I have posed?
              Call Mark Weber, David Irving, Ernst Zundel, Fred Leuchter or whoever and see if THEY have an answer.
              Let me reiterate:
              I DON’T CARE ABOUT FRIED, BOILED OR SHISH-KABOBBED JEWS.
              Thank you.
              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 3:54 pm

              • Jeff – you keep asking for proof of where the Jews who transited through Treblinka went. Well, we do know that some of them went to Maidanek, where they were distributed around the sub-camps that the Germans had set up for their war factories. We also know some went to Auschwitz – probably for the same purpose. The war in the east was crying out for workers from 1942 onwards, and as many Jews as possible were forced into trains and taken to camps all over Eastern Europe to feed the insatiable demand for labour. It stands to reason that many of these Jewish workers would be required inside the occupied Soviet Union itself, doing a host of tasks, such as loading and unloading trains, repairing roads and railways, clearing war damaged areas, digging trenches, cutting timber, working in quarries, mines, factories and even in the fields (especially at harvest time).

                We must not forget that the Germans advanced into the Soviet Union in 1941 with an army consisting of over 3,000,000 men. The numbers remained at nearly that level until 1944. And to keep an army of this size in the field, it required an enormous labour force working behind the front line to keep it fully supplied and functional. And this is the zone where the bulk of the Jews would be required – not actually on, or even close to the battlefield itself, but at the railheads further back, where labour camps could be situated and thus readily supplied, just like the troops themselves.

                But running along parallel with this program of forced labour, was the Nazi decision to deport both the Jewish populations of Germany, and the rump state of Poland, permanently out of the German territorial sphere. This meant the uprooting of entire Jewish communities and their removal to temporary holding camps in the east waiting until the war was over.

                Could it be, that there is no published documented proof of this transfer of the Jewish population into the heart of Russia, simply because the Soviets withheld this information from the world. In 1945 they wanted to build up a narrative of brutal Nazi horror and genocide, and thus all the evidence to the contrary was suppressed by them. It could well be, therefore, that any evidence that Jews finished up inside the Soviet Union still lies today hidden in the historical archives in Moscow.

                Comment by Talbot — February 24, 2016 @ 8:17 pm

                • Talbot…… That pretty much sums it up.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 8:21 pm

                • “Jeff – you keep asking for proof of where the Jews who transited through Treblinka went. Well, we do know that some of them went to Maidanek, where they were distributed around the sub-camps that the Germans had set up for their war factories. We also know some went to Auschwitz – probably for the same purpose.”

                  I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said so far. The Germans shifted Jewish workers (those that survived) around to various camps and sub camps.

                  “The war in the east was crying out for workers from 1942 onwards, and as many Jews as possible were forced into trains and taken to camps all over Eastern Europe to feed the insatiable demand for labour.”

                  I somewhat agree. It was mostly Polish Jews, most of the Jews in the Baltics were dead by the end of 1942.

                  “It stands to reason that many of these Jewish workers would be required inside the occupied Soviet Union itself, doing a host of tasks, such as loading and unloading trains, repairing roads and railways, clearing war damaged areas, digging trenches, cutting timber, working in quarries, mines, factories and even in the fields (especially at harvest time).”

                  Why would you need to import Jews to do these things?
                  There were plenty of Jews in the occupied Soviet Union. The benefit of using local Jews is that they require no transport….they are already there (plus the substantial non-Jewish population also available to do these tasks).

                  “We must not forget that the Germans advanced into the Soviet Union in 1941 with an army consisting of over 3,000,000 men.”

                  Plus about a million or so allied soldiers, the Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, etc.

                  “The numbers remained at nearly that level until 1944. And to keep an army of this size in the field, it required an enormous labour force working behind the front line to keep it fully supplied and functional. And this is the zone where the bulk of the Jews would be required – not actually on, or even close to the battlefield itself, but at the railheads further back, where labour camps could be situated and thus readily supplied, just like the troops themselves.”

                  As I’ve already mentioned, the Germans took advantage of the local population to perform these tasks.

                  “But running along parallel with this program of forced labour, was the Nazi decision to deport both the Jewish populations of Germany, and the rump state of Poland, permanently out of the German territorial sphere. This meant the uprooting of entire Jewish communities and their removal to temporary holding camps in the east waiting until the war was over.”

                  Let me lay this out for you:
                  The Germans deported foreign Jews from France, Norwegian Jews, German and Austrian Jews, Jews from Salonika, some Italian Jews, Belgian Jews, Jews from the Netherlands and some Jews from Denmark. Towards the end of the the Germans deported Hungarian Jews. There are probably others that I am missing but we’ll call that the majority.
                  The bulk of the Jewish victims came from Poland, some three million people.
                  Now, you want me to believe that these Jews wound up in the Soviet Union, at least, a large percentage.
                  Most of these deportations occurred in 1942. Himmler ordered the emptying of the Ghettos in the Summer of 1942, in June or July.
                  When did these deportations take place?
                  Keep in mind that at the same time Germany was preparing Case Blue, the attempt to seize Soviet oil. This means that the Germans were shifting massive amounts of men and material AT THE SAME time these alleged deportations took place. Also, Hitler ordered large military units north to Leningrad to assist in an assault there so there is that complication.
                  Now, what were the conditions in the Soviet Union like at that time?
                  Well, the Germans were busy seizing food supplies to feed their troops and send back to Germany. The German armies were expected to live off the land. They also had to feed their allied troops. This caused an artificial famine.
                  At the same time there was a vicious partisan warfare going on, with partisan units attacking Germans and the Germans retaliating. This was especially vicious in the Ukraine and Belorussia. It is estimated that 1-in-4 Belorussians died and hundreds of thousands of villages were burnt. This exacerbated the famine.
                  The Germans were also forcing locals to work in Germany.
                  So, how do feed all of these extra mouths? In a famine, during a partisan war?
                  The answer is, you can’t.
                  One of the driving forces behind the Holocaust was the food shortage in the Eastern Front. Eliminate useless mouths, you ease the food crunch. It helped that the victims were a despised minority.

                  “Could it be, that there is no published documented proof of this transfer of the Jewish population into the heart of Russia, simply because the Soviets withheld this information from the world. In 1945 they wanted to build up a narrative of brutal Nazi horror and genocide, and thus all the evidence to the contrary was suppressed by them.”

                  Why?
                  The Germans destroyed villages, murdered non-Jewish citizens (and Jewish citizens), plundered factories and installations and generally made a mess of things when they left.
                  The Soviets didn’t need to make up anything.
                  Why do you think they were so pissed off when they invaded Germany?
                  It wasn’t because the Germans spent their time in the Soviet Union handing out puppies and candy.

                  “It could well be, therefore, that any evidence that Jews finished up inside the Soviet Union still lies today hidden in the historical archives in Moscow.”

                  So, in other words, you and Jim have no proof.

                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 9:48 pm

    • When you listen to the Holocaust narratives by these Holohucksters you really don’t know if you’re coming or going anymore. Like you say… their whole view of what happened changes on a whim at first they had haircuts before they went into the chambers then they cut the hair after the chambers there’s just no end to the nonsense here.
      By the way the narrative by the Barber was pretty simple to figure out they went into the room they got a haircut and left the room and went somewhere else there was nothing bad about what happened to them.
      But they sure can be inventive in what they say happened and you can be sure it had something to do with death.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 11:33 am

      • “By the way the narrative by the Barber was pretty simple to figure out they went into the room they got a haircut and left the room and went somewhere else there was nothing bad about what happened to them.”

        You said, went somewhere else.
        Where?
        How?
        Proof?
        I’d like some denier….any denier…..to actually tell me where the Jews went.
        To another concentration camp?
        Fine. Give me proof.
        To someplace in the Soviet Union?
        Fine. Give me proof.
        Or, should I just assume the SS sent these Jews careening merrily about on some sort of extended field trip?
        Jeff

        Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 1:00 pm

  7. Treblinka fascinates me. The official story is so amazing it is hard to believe. It is also hard to believe because it is simply not credible. It was an overspill location for the maimnline station just back up the track at Malkinia. Malkinia couldn’t cope and was getting swamped (think Greece, Slovenia etc right now) so Treblinka two was set up as a temporary station to sort them out, delouse, and push them on east into their new homeland. There exists no evidence whatsoever that Treblinka was a site of mass murder. No gas chambers, no materials for burning the bodies and best of all no bodies. What is it with these jews, they seem to want it that 6m of their own were killed…

    Comment by Mr B — February 24, 2016 @ 9:22 am

    • The Jews are an interesting lot they want to think that they are God’s special people and that any treatment- is something that was brought upon them from a godly viewpoint. So they feel special. Instead of thinking that less of them dying is a good thing they want us to believe that the more of them that die the better and they seem to thrive on death. So the Holocaust cult of death is what they’ve become and they are doing their best to keep it going even though The Last of the Holocaust survivors are dying. So now they’re going to have to invent more things to keep the Hoax going and they are. What they are doing now is the formulating hate laws in all these countries so that they can keep the Cult of Death story going while they in prison people like myself and other revisionist who want to tell the truth.
      A truly sick Andalusia group of people I might add.

      Jim Rizoli
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      Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 10:32 am

    • “and push them on east into their new homeland.”

      What new homeland are you referring to? Do you have any proof of this? Are there train schedules, names of the camps, lists of how many Jews were sent?

      I’ve asked this question repeatedly. No denier seems to know.
      Jeff

      Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 12:51 pm

      • Jeff it’s amazing that you haven’t caught on to any of the nonsense and silliness of what the Holohuxster people have said about Treblinka You believe stuff that is just plain dilly, and insane I just don’t know what to say you seem like an intelligent guy it’s hard to believe you just don’t get it.

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 1:05 pm

        • You could just leave him with the quote,”none so blind,as those who will not see”.

          Comment by Tim — February 24, 2016 @ 1:31 pm

          • Tim, you were in the military.
            During the course of a military operation, would the military want a bunch of civilians behind them that they have to account for/take care of?
            Would they want civilians that they would consider hostile anywhere close to their operation zone?
            Jeff

            Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 2:03 pm

            • Hello those who haven’t come down to reality let’s consider this 25 square meters equals approximately 270 square feet which would be equivalent to about two to three rooms in my house. Can you imagine 500 people in three rooms in my house I might be able to squeeze in 75 to 80 that would be tough.
              This just shows you how silly and stupid these people are because they don’t even know how many people you can put comfortably into a room. And then they even take it a step further to say that you could put 2500 people into a room maybe 3 times the size. This is the reality of life of those who are the Holohucksters they think we’re that stupid that we have no idea what reality is so they can say whatever they want and then the Dumbos say oh well that makes perfectly good sense incredible! I’m not going to put up with it I’m not going to take it I’m going to expose these Holohuxsters for what they just plain old liars.
              Quote from some Knucklehead….
              Between 450 and 500 persons were crowded into a chamber measuring 25 square meters. The chamber was filled, the motor turned on and connected with the inflow pipes, and, within 25 minutes at the most, all lay
              stretched out dead or, to be more accurate, were standing up dead.”

              Ya right!

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 2:45 pm

        • The problem is, Jim, that you can’t offer me another believable explanation on what happened to the Jews “transited” through the Operation Reinhard Camps.
          You have to keep in mind what was going on at the same time these camps were in operation.
          Hitler launched Operation Blue, the attempt to seize the Soviet oil supply in June of 1942. Before then you have a period of buildup, plus Manstein was engaged in trying to take Sevastopol, something which Hitler attached a great deal of weight to.
          Before then German forces were engaged in trying to halt the Soviet counteroffensive from Moscow.
          So, the German transportation system was engaged in shuttling troops and material to the front.
          The OR camps opened in the Spring and Summer of 1942, with Treblinka being the last in July of 1942 (the height of the Summer Offensive).
          Operation Blue was vitally important to Hitler. He understood that this was his last throw.
          Why would the Germans jeopardize this to deport Jews to the Soviet Union? When everything depended on getting as many tanks, men and planes as possible, as quickly as possible, into the Soviet Union?
          More importantly, where would you build these camps?
          Even Himmler had to ask for trains.
          Now, if all you are doing is sending these Jews someplace local it changes things. It’s much easier to send Jews 50, 100, 150 miles to some final destination rather than send them into the Soviet Union.
          Some other things to consider:
          How do you feed 1.5 million Jews in an area facing severe food shortages?
          How do you keep them from becoming a security risk? There was a partisan war going on at the same time.

          Ponder those things, Jim.
          You have an answer you let me know.
          Jeff

          Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 1:54 pm

          • I wrote about the Operation Reinhard [or Reinhardt] camps on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/operation-reinhardt-or-operation-reinhard/

            Comment by furtherglory — February 24, 2016 @ 3:15 pm

          • Well, Jeff, I think I know where your missing jews are. There was a town in the Netherlands (and no doubt this is duplicated all over Europe, especially in the East) and there was a family who were purportedly ‘taken away’ and they never saw them again. Every year the town would mourn the loss of this family and remember them in their annual memorial. It happened that one of the members of this town had business in Baltimore, MD, and by jove, he found the family – living the wide life in the good old US of A. I suppose you could multiple that by, oh, say 500,000 at least (with 5 per family) …. and then if THAT is too much, check out the reparation lines and checks. Amazing how the missing are showing up on payday!

            Comment by Diane King — February 24, 2016 @ 7:04 pm

            • Diane comes to the rescue….
              Jeff you will never come to terms with what happen you want to believe what you wanna believe and you can believe what you wanna believe. I like to believe scientifically factual things I don’t believe in mystical religious cult things so if you want to believe what the Jews believe fine. I think they’re off their rockers if anybody believes what they say or is following the same type of ideology. You obviously didn’t read the Treblinka book and I think you should it’s an excellent book I put the PDF up twice it explains it all.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 7:17 pm

              • No, the “Holocaust Handbooks” didn’t explain, try again.
                Jeff

                Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 7:52 pm

                • Well, um, Jeff, the point of A BOOK is that you … um READ THEM!!! These definitely have the answers YOU try again!

                  Comment by Diane King — February 24, 2016 @ 8:28 pm

                • “Well, um, Jeff, the point of A BOOK is that you … um READ THEM!!! These definitely have the answers YOU try again!”

                  But, I have read some of them.
                  They are just full of crap.

                  I don’t see myself reading all 30 some odd “Holocaust Handbooks,” life is too short and I have better things to do.

                  But, why don’t you dig around and see if some denier can actually provide proof of these mythical camps or whatever and get back to me.
                  I’m happy to investigate the possibility if there is some proof……but I’m not going to take your side of the argument or do your research for you.

                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 10:00 pm

                • I agree that the camps you try to describe ARE mythical. You reject the proofs provided. I don’t feel the burden of proof falls to us.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 25, 2016 @ 4:48 am

              • Thank you, Jim. You give me way to much credit, but I enjoy the discussion because YOU and FG and others bring reason to the table – facts. I throw in a YouTube and anecdote now and then. Keep it up!

                Comment by Diane King — February 24, 2016 @ 8:26 pm

            • Sorry, that didn’t answer my question.
              Where were the Jews transited to when they left Treblinka?
              I need locations.
              Thank you for playing, try again.
              Jeff

              Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 7:50 pm

              • Sorry Jeff not playing anymore.
                You’re just wasting my time.
                You’re right there are 6 million Jews that were killed in gas chambers, electrocuted, and steamed to death you name it that’s how they all died. + millions shot for just being good jews. The Jews are the greatest people on the earth.
                They are the only people that have suffered.
                It’s so silly of me to use scientific reasoning and common sense to make my points.
                Who would ever know that it’s all about the Jews when God created the earth it was all about the Jews they are the only religion that is important.

                Next topic.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 8:04 pm

                • Wow!!!!!!

                  I just converted a Holocaust denier!!!!!!

                  Actually, 6 million Jews didn’t die in gas chambers. Other than that your heart is in the right place.

                  Of course other people suffered, Jim. I’ve pointed this out on numerous occasions.

                  I’ll tell you what, I fully acknowledge that Germans suffered during the war from allied bombings, sexual assault and mistreatment by the allies. I also fully acknowledge that the ethic Germans in the USSR, Poland, the Baltics, the Sudetenland and other places in Eastern Europ suffered a great deal when they were forced out and made to go to Germany. Hundreds of thousands lost their lives during the process.
                  There, does that make you feel better?
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 10:17 pm

                • I see we are making some headway with you little by little pretty soon you will be in our camp you have no choice. If you have any intelligence you would have to be.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — February 25, 2016 @ 12:25 am

                • Of course the Germans suffered at the hands of the inglorious allies. Jim is being sarcastic about the horror fairy tale YOU weave.

                  Comment by Diane King — February 25, 2016 @ 4:52 am

                • Aaaaaaawwww, you mean I didn’t bring Jim to the light?
                  How disappointing.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 5:27 am

                • I wrote about the suffering of the Germans in one of my very first blog posts: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/more-self-flagellation-by-the-germans/

                  Comment by furtherglory — February 25, 2016 @ 5:35 am

              • It wouldn’t matter what we said. We could provide a detailed list by NUMBERS AND YOU would say it was the wrong list. Suffice it to say they came INTO the transit came and went out to other camps.

                Comment by Diane King — February 24, 2016 @ 8:28 pm

                • “It wouldn’t matter what we said. We could provide a detailed list by NUMBERS AND YOU would say it was the wrong list.”

                  No, I wouldn’t. That’s a denier tactic.

                  “Suffice it to say they came INTO the transit came and went out to other camps.”

                  Where? In Poland? In the Soviet Union?

                  Jesus, why do I have to keep repeating myself?
                  Why don’t you say:
                  I don’t know.
                  Crap, I’d respect that more.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 9:53 pm

                • You’re acting like a kid when presented with the obvious mountain of evidence. Sheesh!

                  Comment by Diane King — February 25, 2016 @ 4:47 am

                • Why am I acting like a kid?
                  Give me names, locations and how these camps were constructed.
                  Then I can run research on it and go from there.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 5:26 am

                • Are you aware of the fact that concentration camp prisoners were allowed to do artwork and to play music in the camps? I wrote about the artwork done in the camps on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/artwork-done-by-the-prisoners-in-the-concentration-camps/

                  Comment by furtherglory — February 25, 2016 @ 6:06 am

                • The Soviet Gulag also allowed its prisoners to play music and do artwork.
                  Jeff

                  Comment by Jeff K. — February 25, 2016 @ 6:25 am

                • Don’t forget the soccer with the prison “Screws” (prison guards). I don’t know if any art work is still around from the inmates,but I imagine you might be able to get a fair amount of scratch for it if you can prove it was done by a Jew inmate. Why not. One of uncle adolphs paintings sold for $15,000 at the auction house.

                  Comment by Tim — February 25, 2016 @ 6:53 am

  8. It’s hard to believe people can believe that 800,000 and up to as some peoples believe 3 million people were killed here in relatively short amount of time.
    Lets consider the impossibilities and the contradictions between interested parties. From The Treblinka book by Carlo Mattogno and Jurgen Graf….the best and most logical book written about the camp. All the other books written came from some good imaginations and contradict each other from a lot of different angels.
    If you HoloHuxsters can believe this stuff then I have a bridge to sell you. And this is just one aspect of the Hoax……

    “The cremation is supposed to have taken place in the time period between April and the end of July 1943,430 so that nearly all 860,000 bodies are supposed to have been incinerated within 122 days, i.e. 7,000 per day on two grates, or 3,500 per day per grate. How large was such a grate? In the version of Wiernik‘s work One year in Treblinka published by A. Donat, one reads: “This is the way in which he got the Inferno started: He put into operation an excavator which could dig up 3,000 corpses at one time. A fire grate made from railroad tracks was placed on concrete foundations 100 to 150 meters in length. The workers piled the corpses on the grate and set them on fire.” The particulars given here are clearly the fruit of a later insertion, since in the American translation of Wiernick’s writing compiled in 1944 it simply says: “This is the way he got the hell started. He put a machine for exhuming the corpses into operation, which could, in one motion, dig up many, many dead bodies. A fire grate made of railway ties was laid out on cement foundations, and workmen had to pile the corpses on the grating and set them on fire” If one takes into consideration the fact that 3,000 bodies take up a volume of about (3,000×0.045 =) 135 m3, the claim, according to which the shovel of the excavator could be loaded with 3,000 bodies at a time, will evoke only amusement. The length of the grate (100 to 150 m) contradicts the trial documents. According to Arad, the grate was 30 m wide, but this too contradicts the verdict of the Düsseldorf Jury Court, according to which the grate consisted of “5 to 6 train rails of about 25 to 30 m in length.” Since emaciated bodies, which easily disintegrated, were burned on both grates, the gap between two rails had to be small and could at most be permitted to amount to 50 to 60 cm, so that one can assume a width of the grate of approximately three meters. The width given by Feig – one meter – is obviously impossible. Thus, the two grates cannot have been larger than 30 × 3 × 0.76 m each. As already explained, each grate must have burned 3,500 bodies every single day for 122 days”.

    Ya right……in what horror movie did you see this…..

    Treblinka book pdf….
    holocausthandbooks.com/dl/08-t.pdf

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — February 24, 2016 @ 9:17 am

    • Nobody mentioned the fact it takes 2 to 3 hours for the stiffs to burn. Then you’ve got 3 to 9 pounds of ashes. My biggest question,what the hell to do with all the bones. I’m guessing on a good day they can meet production,but a bad day the numbers ain’t gonna happen.

      Comment by Tim — February 24, 2016 @ 11:43 am

  9. So in ’68 the Poles sent the Jews on their way. They boot the Jews and they go to another country. Why didn’t they just go to Israel? Israel was up and running then. Everyone turned a blind eye to that one I guess.

    Comment by Tim — February 24, 2016 @ 9:10 am


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