The story of Holocaust survivor Jack Adler will be told in a new movie, which his son Eli Adler is currently working on. You can read all about it in this recent news article: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/reich/ct-surviving-skokie-holocaust-film-ae-0306-20160304-column.html

Jack Adler and his son Eli Adler at Auschwitz 1 camp
Jack Adler was a prisoner at the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, which does not have a good background for a photo, so Jack and his son were photographed at the main Auschwitz camp.
The news article, cited above, begins with the following quote:
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Every family has secrets, but some cry out to be revealed to the world.
That’s what San Francisco cinematographer Eli Adler learned when — well into middle age — he began exploring his father’s Holocaust past.
As a child growing up in Skokie, [Illinois] Adler knew little about what his father had suffered and lost in Poland, where an estimated 3 million Jews had been massacred. As an adult, Adler worked on uncounted films but never had made one of his own.
These two needs — to finally grasp his family’s tragic past and to put it on screen for all to see — converged in “Surviving Skokie,” a bittersweet, profoundly autobiographical documentary having its Midwest premiere March 13-15 at the Chicago Jewish Film Festival ( [the writer of this article is] one of several people interviewed in the film).
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When I read this news article, I immediately remembered that I had written about Jack Adler, on my scrapbookpages.com website, way back in 1998. Jack Adler was already well known, even back then.
The photo above shows prisoners from Dachau on a march out of the camp to the South Tyrol.
Dachau was the camp where many famous, high-level political opponents of the Nazi government were held near the end of the war. Just before the camp was liberated, there were 137 VIP prisoners at Dachau, including the former Chancellor of Austria, Kurt von Schuschnigg, and the former Jewish premier of France, Leon Blum. They were evacuated to the South Tyrol in April 1945 on three separate trips, shortly before soldiers of the American Seventh Army arrived to liberate the camp.
Was Jack Adler one of the important prisoners who was sent to South Tyrol for his own safety?
The following quote is from the page that I wrote on my website in 1998:
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/JackAdler.html
Jack Adler was born in 1929 in the small town of Pabianice, near the city of Lodz, in the part of Poland that had been in the German state of Prussia between 1795 and the end of World War I, when this territory was given back to the new independent country of Poland. His family owned a textile factory in Lodz.
When Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, Adler’s home town was captured during the first week. According to an article written by Karla Pomeroy, and published on January 31, 2007 in the Laramie Boomerang, Adler told an audience at the University of Wyoming on January 29, 2007 that when the occupation of Poland first started, he watched with the excitement of any 10-year-old boy as people brought flowers, food and drink to the Nazi soldiers.
It was the ethnic Germans, whose families had lived in this part of Poland for centuries, that welcomed the German soldiers as liberators. For the Jews, the German occupation was a disaster. Adler said that hours after the occupation began, notices were posted that said Jewish residents were not allowed outside their homes unless they had a yellow Star of David displayed on the front and back of their clothes.
Jewish children were no longer able to attend public school. Almost immediately, the beatings and the torture of the Jews began in the town square of Pabianice, according to Adler’s speech at the University of Wyoming.
The Jews in Pabianice and the other surrounding villages were soon isolated in a ghetto, dependent upon the Germans for food. Adler’s mother and his older brother died in the ghetto, but Adler, his father and two sisters survived.
On May 10, 1942, the able-bodied Jews were moved into a ghetto in Lodz, where they were put to work in the textile factories, making uniforms for German soldiers. According to Adler, the old, the sick and the young were taken to another ghetto, from where they were later sent to the gas chamber. He was able to save his younger sister by sneaking her out of the group destined for the gas chamber and getting her into the work group.
The Lodz ghetto remained open long after the other ghettos in Poland were liquidated and the prisoners were sent to other camps or to the gas chamber. In August 1944, when the Russian Army was already occupying part of Poland, most of the Jews in the Lodz ghetto were finally sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau, including Adler, his father and his two sisters. Adler said that his two sisters were immediately sent to a gas chamber, disguised as a shower room, at Birkenau.
According to the article by Karla Pomeroy, Adler told the audience at the University of Wyoming that “mothers with infants had their children ripped from their arms when they refused to give them up. Adler said that the babies were thrown up in the air and used as target practice.”
During the selection process at Birkenau, Jack Adler and his father were directed to the right, but were not registered in the camp. They were held in quarantine at Birkenau for a few weeks, and were then sent to work in one of the eleven Kaufering sub-camps of Dachau near Munich, Germany.

Gate at Dachau camp where Jack Adler was a prisoner before he was liberated by American soldiers
Shortly before Dachau was liberated, the prisoners in the Kaufering sub-camps were marched to the main camp. [shown in the photo above] Three days before the American Seventh Army arrived to liberate the Dachau prisoners, thousands of Jews were marched out of the camp, toward the South Tyrol, where Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler [allegedly] intended to use them as hostages in negotiations with the Allies. Adler was liberated from the march by American soldiers on May 1, 1945; he was sixteen years old, and had survived six years in German captivity.
The following is a quote from the article by Karla Pomeroy in the Laramie Boomerang [newspaper]:
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Adler was the only member of his immediate family to survive the camps. Out of 83 total members of his family, four others survived.
Adler moved to Chicago a year later as a war orphan. He learned English, graduated high school and went to college. He met his future wife in 1952, and they have two children. He has returned to Germany but has never returned to his home country of Poland.
Adler associated with a small group of Jewish refugees in his new home of Skokie, Ill., but rarely discussed his wartime experiences with anyone, including his children. It wasn’t until his children had grown and had children of their own that he began to open up about his past.
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End of quote from my website
After a particularly busy morning in Auschwitz in the summer of 1944, Doctor Mengele popped round for an ersatz coffee and a chat at the Kommandants office. He’d already performed many experiments in his surgery since breakfast time; – sowing twins necks together; irradiating women’s ovaries; and injecting toxic chemicals into inmates lungs, and he now looked forward to a well-deserved and welcome break from his arduous duties.
But he found the camp commandant – Rudolf Hoess – sitting at his desk with a worried expression on his face. The man was obviously in a very distressed condition.
“What’s up Rudy” – asked the sympathetic doctor ?
Rudolf Hoess replied slowly and sadly – “I’ve got five train-loads of Jews arriving this lunchtime, and I don’t know what to do with them all. My gas chambers simply aren’t big enough to accommodate this number of people.”
“Well don’t worry Rudy”, said the bright-and-breezy Josef Mengele. “Why don’t you just send all the females immediately to the gas chambers, separate the men from the young children and babies; and get all the ferocious guard dogs to attack the testicles and buttocks of the adult males. While the dogs are enjoying their dinner, your SS men can pick up the infants and babies, and smash their heads up against the crematorium walls; throw them into the air to be used as target practise; or fling them alive into the fiery pits of dead bodies.”
But the distraught camp commandant was almost in tears at this point, and exclaimed wearily – “I haven’t got any burning pits specifically for babies”.
“I think your wrong there, Rudy”, the cheerful doctor interjected – didn’t that weird Hungarian guy who arrived on a transport the other week, what was his name, now – Weasel?, Wiezel? say something about pits full of burning babies. And wasn’t he just about to jump in himself?”
“Oh please don’t remind me of that Crackpot-Charlie”, pleaded the commandant as he reached for his stress tablets and a glass of water. “I sent him off to Monowitz with his father, to let the administration down there deal with him. He won’t be any use as a productive worker, but at least he can entertain the inmates after roll-call each evening with his crazy made-up stories.”
But Doctor Menegele continued – “By the time the dogs have finished their nourishing meals, all the females will have been gassed; the infants and babies dealt with; and the chambers will then be ready to receive the menfolk.”
The camp commandant’s face now started beaming with joy. “You are always full of brilliant ideas, Herr Doctor. Let’s set to work immediately. And, afterwards, I’ll crack open some bottles of schnapps and champagne to celebrate our success. We can then carouse and cavort around the open fires, warming ourselves in the heat generated by the burning babies bodies, and baking our potato rations and German sausages in the dying embers.
Comment by Talbot — March 5, 2016 @ 5:18 am
Hey that’s pretty good . You should head to Hollywoid. They’re always looking for new stories . Mad Magazine did a parody of “Hogans Heros” (Hokums Heros). Then they did a parody of the “camps”. It was called “Hochmans Heros.” Look it up in the internet. I’m trying to figure out why the Hebs ain’t blowin their top over that one.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 5:38 am
I’d be rejected in Hollywood, Tim, because I’m not Jewish. I would have to learn all the words of the hit songs for the musical “Fiddler On The Roof” before being accepted there. Nope – I think I will have to settle for my present status of “Righteous Gentile” after all.
Comment by Talbot — March 5, 2016 @ 8:22 am
Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. They wouldn’t want this white boy either.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 8:24 am
I always thought that you were a Holocaust denier, but I see that you are a True Believer.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 5:41 am
Don’t fret, FG. Talbot is a 100% dyed in the wool denier.
What you read was a rather feeble attempt at humor.
It’s weird, I though Brits were funny (Benny Hill, Monty Python’s Flying Circus) but Talbot just destroyed that assumption.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:28 am
Benny Hill and MPFC are very dated now ( probably like me! ). Benny Hill was popular in its time, but even back then it was very sexist and smutty, and certainly wouldn’t be broadcast on mainstream TV today. Monty Python was glorious funny because it was an innovative comedy back in the 1970,s.’
“Talbot is a 100% dyed in the wool denier”. I wouldn’t quite say that. A persecution?, a tragedy?, a trauma? and a dispersal? – undoubtedly did hit large sections of the Jewish population of Europe during WW2 – but certainly not a genocide of millions!.
Comment by Talbot — March 5, 2016 @ 7:54 am
Benny Hill was sexist. Ever hear of “Happy Days”? Fonzie snaps his fingers and bam! There’s a girl right at his side. Kinda looks to me like he’s treating the woman as an object. How about little Richie Cunningham. Starts singing Fats Domino,”I found my thrill,on Blueberry Hill.” Talking about taking a girl to the fictional “lookout point”. He went up there to make out with her,then tells his friends about it. Once again,the girl is an object to him. I’m not even gonna mention “Stroker Ace”. Take your family to see it. Loni Anderson passes out. Burt Reynolds tries to undress her while she is out for his own twisted purposes. The court systems would refer to that as attempted rape. Benny Hill fit right in with all of them. His show was no different.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 8:08 am
TAfLBOT. Correct the story considering timing as following: At Ahwitz in Summer-Autunn 1944 trains arrived from Hungary until July, from the Lodz Ghetto – liquidated – in August. From Paris last train arrived in August and from Theresienstadt from end September until end of October. The Mengele team had to make the selections however starting only after the train with it personel had left. Title DEATH MANAGER DAILY ROUTINE and present it to a German Movie Producer. Never in Holliwood as not suitable for Shoah Business both divisions not becausr You are not Jewish, Consider that no USA or UK publisher wanted the book of my late Father while the German version had obtained an Austrian Government allowance. One cannot believe or deny the Shoah bur only study history and background of events,
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 9:17 am
You wrote: “The Mengele team had to make the selections however starting only after the train with it personel had left.”
Old photos show that selections were made while the trains were still there.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 9:21 am
FURTHERGLORY. At the 1965 Auschewitz trial one of the defendants said that selections had to start after train had left. Maybee then that depended on what railway personell had been there. I think that had been a simple segret keeping rule.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 10:58 am
I preferred Monty Python but Benny had his moments.
Holy Grail was great but I also liked Life of Brian and Now for Something Completely Different. The individual episodes also were great.
Faulty Towers comes highly recommended but I’ve never seen it.
You said dispersal but somehow you never manage to explain where the were dispersed TOO.
Why is that, I always wonder……..
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 9:57 am
“Lumberjack” skit by Monty Python or the “Ministry of Silly Walks”
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 11:15 am
Jeff wrote: “Unfortunately for Nazi Germany it lost so its warts were put on display.”
“Or……America just always needs to make up false warts and turn inocuous things into warts about others in order to hide her own hideous face. No surprise in fact.”
I’m confused, is it Jews that make things up or Americans?
Not all Americans are Jews, though some Jews are Americans.
“When you are a Manichaean sanctimonious childish wannabe-hero, you need to depict others as cruel devils to make your own image more glittering.”
Wow, you are really stretching the old vocabulary there, Hermie. I’m deeply impressed.
It’s so weird that you mention “childish.” I was just thinking how childish it is to believe in monstrous, Zionists Devils that secretly run everything and dreamed up the Holocaust.
Does that remind you of anyone you know?
“After all, what kind of people still talk about ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ after the age of six like Americans often do? Idiots…”
You mean the same kind of people that rhapsodize a defunct ideology built by a man dead for over 70 years?
Or, what about those same kind of people that believe that somehow Jews managed to persuade the leaders of the three most powerful nations in the world to buy into the Holocaust to create…..a tiny Middle Eastern Nation?
That sounds pretty childish to me.
Or, these same people that magically managed to populate non-existent camps in the Soviet Union with Europe’s Jews….but have no proof of said camps.
Wow. Talk about idiots.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 8:12 pm
Jeff wrote: “I’m confused, is it Jews that make things up or Americans?”
Jews, Zionist Jews, did. But as I’ve already explained before, the Zionist Holohoax atrocity propaganda of WW2 was so successfull because it fitted perfectly into the Allies’ propaganda needs and habits.
Jeff wrote: “It’s so weird that you mention “childish.” I was just thinking how childish it is to believe in monstrous, Zionists Devils that secretly run everything and dreamed up the Holocaust.”
Yes, you’re right. Children are well-known for their distrust and suspicious nature. It’s not as if kids believed [almost] anything they are told. (Does that remind you of anyone you know?) 😉
You’re an unsuspecting kid in the back of Zionist propagandists’ van. Glad to see you feel comfortable on the mattress soaked with tears where you sit.
Jeff wrote: “Or, what about those same kind of people that believe that somehow Jews managed to persuade the leaders of the three most powerful nations in the world to buy into the Holocaust to create…..a tiny Middle Eastern Nation?”
As I’ve already told you previously, the Zionist propagandists of WW2 didn’t need to persuade the leaders of America, Britain and the USSR to buy into the Holocaust. Atrocity propaganda lies were/are in their DNA. Some British propagandists also accused the Germans of using homicidal gas chambers to mass murder civilians and of turning human corpses into soap during WW1. Joint interests. As simple as that.
Jeff wrote: “Or, these same people that magically managed to populate non-existent camps in the Soviet Union with Europe’s Jews….but have no proof of said camps.”
Not my fault that orthodox historians have just multiplied the number of Nazi camps and ghettoes suddenly by a factor of 6 (7,000 -> 42,500)…
Your proof of said homicidal gas chambers???
Comment by hermie — March 6, 2016 @ 9:30 pm
Jeff wrote: “I’m confused, is it Jews that make things up or Americans?”
“Jews, Zionist Jews, did. But as I’ve already explained before, the Zionist Holohoax atrocity propaganda of WW2 was so successfull because it fitted perfectly into the Allies’ propaganda needs and habits.”
I’m still trying to figure out why the allies needed any propaganda.
They did use it but primarily as a device to dehumanize or ridicule the enemy. I came across a book of propaganda not so long ago, unfortunately I never purchased it.
But, back to what you said.
Germany invaded Poland in September of 1939.
You and I disagree on the motivation but there is no denying the fact that Germany did so.
While they were there the Germans forcibly removed ethnic Poles and Jews from the areas they annexed, causing a great deal of suffering.
The Germans invaded the USSR in June of 1941. That is simple fact. While the Germans were there they forcibly removed Soviet citizens for forced labor, confiscated food stocks, destroyed or removed industrial equipment and destroyed thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of villages.
Hitler declared war on the United States.
Why would these countries need any propoganda to justify what they did to Germans or Germany?
Jeff wrote: “It’s so weird that you mention “childish.” I was just thinking how childish it is to believe in monstrous, Zionists Devils that secretly run everything and dreamed up the Holocaust.”
“Yes, you’re right. Children are well-known for their distrust and suspicious nature.”
That is incorrect.
Children by nature are very trusting of adults and people in authority. It’s only experience that teaches them otherwise, that and cautionary tales from adults.
“It’s not as if kids believed [almost] anything they are told. (Does that remind you of anyone you know?) ;-)”
Again, simply incorrect.
Hermie, I have children of my own. In addition to that I worked for the Child Welfare system in my state. I know far more about children than you do.
“You’re an unsuspecting kid in the back of Zionist propagandists’ van. Glad to see you feel comfortable on the mattress soaked with tears where you sit.”
How did the deniers get YOU in THEIR van, Hermie?
Promises of candy? The bliss of reducing the whole world into the black and white world where all Jews are bad, all white people are good?
Jeff wrote: “Or, what about those same kind of people that believe that somehow Jews managed to persuade the leaders of the three most powerful nations in the world to buy into the Holocaust to create…..a tiny Middle Eastern Nation?”
“As I’ve already told you previously, the Zionist propagandists of WW2 didn’t need to persuade the leaders of America, Britain and the USSR to buy into the Holocaust.”
That’s what it sounds like to me.
Because it’s an awful lot of trouble to go through,
thousands of witnesses, hundreds of perpetrators, tons of documents, faked audio tapes of speeches, etc.
As I’ve stated above, the allies really didn’t need to go through the trouble.
The French and British upheld their treaty to Poland, Poland was the invaded party, as was the Soviet Union. The United States was involved because Germany declared war on the United States.
Again, they didn’t need to go through the trouble.
“Atrocity propaganda lies were/are in their DNA. Some British propagandists also accused the Germans of using homicidal gas chambers to mass murder civilians and of turning human corpses into soap during WW1. Joint interests. As simple as that.”
Life, politics and war are never “As simple as that.”
Jeff wrote: “Or, these same people that magically managed to populate non-existent camps in the Soviet Union with Europe’s Jews….but have no proof of said camps.”
“Not my fault that orthodox historians have just multiplied the number of Nazi camps and ghettoes suddenly by a factor of 6 (7,000 -> 42,500)…”
The number includes camps on German soil that were opened and closed before the war started. That number also includes satellite camps, POW camps, labor camps, etc. Many of those camps were not set up for or included Jews.
And Hermie, if this was all some conspiracy, why on earth would this conspiracy allow such research to happen if it exposed said conspiracy?
“Your proof of said homicidal gas chambers???”
I’m not going to bother.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 7, 2016 @ 9:05 am
Jeff wrote: “I’m still trying to figure out why the allies needed any propaganda. They did use it but primarily as a device to dehumanize or ridicule the enemy. I came across a book of propaganda not so long ago, unfortunately I never purchased it. [blah blah blah] Why would these countries need any propoganda to justify what they did to Germans or Germany?”
Ask this question to guys of Sefton Delmer and of the US Psychological Warfare Division.
Besides the fact that the general belief in the biased narrative enunciated in your comment is already a propaganda success in itself. Not only the Holohoax was needed to create the myth of the Allied ‘good guys’ fighting a ‘good war’ for the sake of humankind.
Jeff wrote: “That is incorrect. Children by nature are very trusting of adults and people in authority. It’s only experience that teaches them otherwise, that and cautionary tales from adults.”
That was sarcasm, Jeff. Sarcasm with your narrative as the childish & naive fairy tale and you as the gullible child.
Jeff wrote: “Again, simply incorrect. Hermie, I have children of my own. In addition to that I worked for the Child Welfare system in my state. I know far more about children than you do.”
Ditto.
Get the joke about the Zionist van and the mattress soaked with tears now?
Jeff wrote: “That’s what it sounds like to me. Because it’s an awful lot of trouble to go through,”
The benefit was worth the effort. Being the good guys of the most destructive war ever seen was no little benefit.
And the effort/trouble was not so big. After 6 years of a terrible war, all the streets of Europe were full of people willing to come and tell any demonizing lies about the Germans before a court.
Jeff wrote: “Life, politics and war are never “As simple as that.””
Yet this is what your ‘the French and British upheld their treaty to Poland, etc.’ is: a simple story for simpletons.
Jeff wrote: “And Hermie, if this was all some conspiracy, why on earth would this conspiracy allow such research to happen if it exposed said conspiracy?”
An unexpected backlash???
Jeff wrote: “I’m not going to bother.”
That was rhetorical anyway.
Comment by hermie — March 7, 2016 @ 6:21 pm
Jeff wrote: “I’m still trying to figure out why the allies needed any propaganda. They did use it but primarily as a device to dehumanize or ridicule the enemy. I came across a book of propaganda not so long ago, unfortunately I never purchased it. [blah blah blah] Why would these countries need any propoganda to justify what they did to Germans or Germany?”
“Ask this question to guys of Sefton Delmer and of the US Psychological Warfare Division.”
I would but they’ve been dead for decades.
“Besides the fact that the general belief in the biased narrative enunciated in your comment is already a propaganda success in itself.”
So, it was all propaganda when the Germans killed all of the Polish elite?
Allowing all of those Soviet POWs to die?
The general destruction that the Germans left in the USSR?
That’s pretty effective propaganda.
“Not only the Holohoax was needed to create the myth of the Allied ‘good guys’ fighting a ‘good war’ for the sake of humankind.”
Sounds like denier propaganda.
Jeff wrote: “That is incorrect. Children by nature are very trusting of adults and people in authority. It’s only experience that teaches them otherwise, that and cautionary tales from adults.”
“That was sarcasm, Jeff. Sarcasm with your narrative as the childish & naive fairy tale and you as the gullible child.”
Somehow I don’t believe you but whatever.
Jeff wrote: “Again, simply incorrect. Hermie, I have children of my own. In addition to that I worked for the Child Welfare system in my state. I know far more about children than you do.”
Ditto.
“Get the joke about the Zionist van and the mattress soaked with tears now?”
I got it in the first place.
Jeff wrote: “That’s what it sounds like to me. Because it’s an awful lot of trouble to go through,”
“The benefit was worth the effort. Being the good guys of the most destructive war ever seen was no little benefit.”
Not really.
What the Germans left behind was convincing in itself.
“And the effort/trouble was not so big. After 6 years of a terrible war, all the streets of Europe were full of people willing to come and tell any demonizing lies about the Germans before a court.”
We’re talking about tons of documents, thousands and thousands of witnesses, speeches, etc. Not worth the time or expense.
Besides, when would there be time?
Jeff wrote: “Life, politics and war are never “As simple as that.””
“Yet this is what your ‘the French and British upheld their treaty to Poland, etc.’ is: a simple story for simpletons.”
Well, it’s pretty simple, Hermie. If you invade a country that has a treaty with other countries that cause a war, that’s your doing.
If you invade a country that country will defend itself.
If you declare war you can expect war in kind.
Jeff wrote: “And Hermie, if this was all some conspiracy, why on earth would this conspiracy allow such research to happen if it exposed said conspiracy?”
“An unexpected backlash???”
Not really an answer.
Jeff wrote: “I’m not going to bother.”
“That was rhetorical anyway.”
I figured.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 7, 2016 @ 6:38 pm
Jeff wrote: “So, it was all propaganda when the Germans killed all of the Polish elite? Allowing all of those Soviet POWs to die? The general destruction that the Germans left in the USSR? That’s pretty effective propaganda.”
Any propaganda consisting of what most people want to hear about their enemies is good propaganda. I was talking about your previous claims, your claims that Germany invaded every other country without any reason, your usual distorted history in a vacuum.
About the Soviet POWs allowed to die, I fail to see why the Germans would have been compelled to go to great lengths in order to be able to feed very numerous POWs (much more numerous than expected and planned) singled out for destruction by their own leader (Stalin). Stalin always refused to reach any agreement about POWs with the German authorities during the war. He had even ordered the destruction of the Soviet POWs (depicted as traitors) whenever possible. And I fail to see you mention the millions of German POWs allowed (or even made) to die in Soviet, English, French and American camps. Why would the Allies and Soviets have been exempted from the need for atrocity propaganda because of a thing that every belligerent of WW2 had done or at least been unable to prevent?
About the general destruction that the Germans left in the USSR, that was the inescapable result of a war as savage as the war on the Eastern front and a significant part of that destruction had been perpetrated by the Soviets themselves. Stalin’s scortched earth policy ordered, among other things, the destruction of everything over kilometers on both sides of each road. But blaming the whole thing on the vanquished was too tempting and easy, wasn’t it?
Jeff wrote: “Somehow I don’t believe you but whatever.”
Read it again. Perhaps you’ll finally get it and see how obvious it was.
Jeff wrote: “Not really. What the Germans left behind was convincing in itself.”
Yes. The destruction that any smart person could expect after such a war and cohorts of epidemic diseased and dead similar to the ones left behind after the previous world war. Wow. So compelling indeed. That’s probably the reason why US propagandists needed to plant laughable Jivaro shrunken heads and human-skin lampshades at Buchenwald…
Jeff wrote: “We’re talking about tons of documents, thousands and thousands of witnesses, speeches, etc.”
Tons of documents about a policy of extermination by mass murder and the use of homicidal gas chambers??? C’mon. You know this is untrue.
Jeff wrote: “Not worth the time or expense.”
Nor worth? How could you play the sanctimonious pseudo-historian and legitimate ‘world cop’ without that?
Jeff wrote: “Well, it’s pretty simple, Hermie. If you invade a country that has a treaty with other countries that cause a war, that’s your doing. If you invade a country that country will defend itself. If you declare war you can expect war in kind.”
Where is your funny ‘nothing is simple in life, politics and war’ now? Gone? Vanished? Or only swept under the carpet until the next time you need it to try to prove your point? 😉
“If you invade a country that has a treaty with other countries that cause a war”…and you can even sign a treaty with a country in order to get a war you wish against another country. Perfidious Albion’s foreign policy during centuries. But perhaps a little too complex for simple minds.
Jeff wrote: “Not really an answer.”
Are you saying that the researchers who stated that had planned that some ‘evil deniers’ could use their discoveries?
Comment by hermie — March 8, 2016 @ 7:36 am
edit: ‘not worth’ instead of ‘nor worth’.
Comment by hermie — March 8, 2016 @ 7:57 am
About the photo…..it sure is a good green screen job if they weren’t there.
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 12:36 pm
“Does anyone else think that the above photo of Adler and his son is fake? It looks artificial to me, as if the two individuals have been superimposed upon a green screen background image of the Auschwitz gate.”
Are you now denying that the men pictured purchased plane tickets, flew to Poland and traveled to Auschwitz?
That’s rather odd.
“The pair look too smug, gleeful and mischievous to be accepted as genuine visitors to the site.”
The men are smiling for a picture.
People do that.
I think you are projecting feelings on the men that don’t exist.
People take selfies at Auschwitz, that strikes me as more disrespectful than two men taking a picture together at the gates.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 11:16 am
But Mr Adler claims that he’s never been back to Poland since the end of the war – only Germany. So it wouldn’t be too difficult for his son to sit down on a computer and photo-shop their images on to an Auschwitz background. It would certainly save the time and expense of flying all the way there and back. And what’s more; you can get the perfect picture for presentation to the public.
Comment by Talbot — March 4, 2016 @ 12:29 pm
“But Mr Adler claims that he’s never been back to Poland since the end of the war – only Germany.”
When the article in question was written.
He could easily have gone since then.
Maybe he decided it was time to go back before his end to make peace.
I’ve read that soldiers do this, go back to where they fought when they were young in order to finally let it go close to their end.
“So it wouldn’t be too difficult for his son to sit down on a computer and photo-shop their images on to an Auschwitz background. It would certainly save the time and expense of flying all the way there and back. And what’s more; you can get the perfect picture for presentation to the public.”
I’m not sure why this is important to you. This seems like an odd thing to fixate on.
What public presentation? Like for this guys movie?
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 1:00 pm
It’s you who’s fixated upon the image, Jeff – look at all the words you use to try and justify its authenticity.
I just mentioned it, because we live in an age where photos can be easily faked or doctored by computer manipulation.
Comment by Talbot — March 4, 2016 @ 1:35 pm
Not really.
I just don’t kow why you think the photo is faked.
To be honest, I’m now regretting asking you about it.
It struck me as strange but if you want to think it’s fake I’m simply going to let it go.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 1:46 pm
Does it matter if the photo is faked? The point is the story is.
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 1:52 pm
Does anyone else think that the above photo of Adler and his son is fake? It looks artificial to me, as if the two individuals have been superimposed upon a green screen background image of the Auschwitz gate. The pair look too smug, gleeful and mischievous to be accepted as genuine visitors to the site.
Comment by Talbot — March 4, 2016 @ 10:32 am
Yes, the photo does look fake.
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 12:12 pm
Another book of lies
Comment by Has Coché — March 4, 2016 @ 10:21 am
SHAME, Reading many comments here I feel that for the commentators survivor Adler – as all the other survivors – are GUILTY FOR HAVINV SURVIVIED. Reading comments to this as to other posts I feel more and more thar our survival is deeply regretted by many puritan fault searchers. Those who at selection had been directed to the right – for extermination through force labor – learned within a day that the relatives directed to the left had been suddenly exterminated in the Gas Chambers and Crematoria. Those who had passed through tragedies feel it very painfull speaking about it and when meeting fellow survivors avoid carefully to discuss details of their experiences. Many found it right to share the story of their pain only when children are already adults ready to understand. Th puritan fault searchers who pretend to look for forensic evidences did not realize that expert criminals – and the Nazis had beem expert criminals – find every possible way to destruct remains and other probes. USA and UK goverments learned the full truth not later than Jannuary 1943 but did not care about the matter. Many commentators, ashamingly, blame survivors for having managed to start a normal life after war end. I more and more am feel that in USA and UK many regret that Hitler had not done the entire dirty work.
Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — March 4, 2016 @ 9:43 am
puritan fault searchers
Wolf, please answer a simple, direct question: do you believe the Germans threw babies in the air and shot at them? — ich meine, nicht nur einmal — bitte einfach mit ‘ja’ oder ‘nein’ antworten — danke.
survival is deeply regretted
This is not true, and you know it.
Comment by eah — March 4, 2016 @ 10:05 am
eah. 1. Throw babies in the air and shot them seem be very amusant not only to drunk SS men but to some “comon” criminal too; a strong insult to the parents too. 2. The fault searching comments let me exactly feel that survival is more or less regreted. When writing or talking one ougt to wonder about the effect on reader or adressee taking account of his feelings. Think it over. Best.
Comment by Wolf Murmelstein — March 4, 2016 @ 12:17 pm
So I guess you do believe it then — not sure what else to say — except: I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings — I simply do not and cannot believe that the Germans thew babies in the air and shot them, even when drunk.
Comment by eah — March 4, 2016 @ 12:46 pm
About the killed babies….first few paragraphs of this article shed some light on it….
http://www.the-trench.org/bayoneted-belgian-babies/
The story continues…..just good propaganda surfacing every now and then especially during wartime to get the people mad.
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 1:07 pm
Unfortunately, Wolf, a large percentage of the people that reply here deny that the Shoah took place.
That’s a shame but nothing you say is going to change this.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 11:20 am
No one denies that the Shoah (Holocaust) took place, but almost everyone who reads my blog disputes the details of the Holocaust.
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 12:05 pm
I’m confused, then.
The “Shoah” as understood is the systematic destruction of a large number of European Jews starting in the Summer of 1941.
The methods of mass destruction included large scale shootings, followed by large scale gassings at fixed and mobile sites. This also includes the death of Jews by starvation, maltreatment and disease.
Arno Mayer calls it “Judeocide” in his book “Why did the Heavens not Darken?” which I now own and will get to when I get a chance.
The Shoah is also known as the Holocaust. My own personal preference is to use “Shoah” when I speak of Jews only and “Holocaust” when I include other Nazi victims like the Soviet POWs, the disabled, ethnic Poles, etc. I do admit that I get lazy and say “Holocaust” when I only mean Jews.
Most of the people that reply here dispute most everything that I’ve just said, including those who think for some reason that the Jews had it pretty good in the camps.
I call that “Holocaust denial.”
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 12:18 pm
How do you explain the orchestras and soccer field at the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp?
https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/playing-in-the-womens-orchestra-at-auschwitz-the-ticket-to-survival/
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 12:25 pm
“How do you explain the orchestras and soccer field at the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp?”
I don’t doubt that they existed, but how does their existence refute the fact that Jews died in gas chambers in Birkenau?
Auschwitz also had a converted swimming pool and a brothel. This didn’t make it Club Med.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 1:06 pm
Swimming in Auschwitz…by yours truly….
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 1:12 pm
FURTHERGLORY. The Auschwitx orchestras had been an other mean of torture the prisoniers staying for hours to the APELL. while the socer field certainly had not been for the entertainment of inmates – while at Teresienstadt the soccer had been the only sport allowed as the fans belonged to different groups and so it had been a mean to deap rivalries. Noting that the Sudeten Nazi groups had been presented as athletic clubs so Atlethic meetings had been considered a good way of training for possible resistance and therefore forbidden.r Late Alfred Freddy Hirsch who in April-May 1943 tried to hold atlethic training for children in September 1943 had heen sent to Auschwitz and was among those gassed exactly at Purim 1944. So orchestras and soccer fields are explained.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 1:28 am
The Auschwitz orchestras were another means of torturing the prisoners. Why – what were they playing – “I’m Dreaming of a White Christmas, by Bing Crosby, over and over again?
Comment by Talbot — March 6, 2016 @ 11:37 am
I wrote about the orchestras at Auschwitz here: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/womens-orchestra-at-auschwitz/
Comment by furtherglory — March 6, 2016 @ 11:41 am
They played “white Christmas” when Saigon fell.
Comment by Tim — March 6, 2016 @ 12:20 pm
Oh – trust the American military to choose a song like that, Tim, as they were scampering away from a conflict they should never have entered in the first place. What a terrible waste of life and resources that war was.
But it shows how innocent and nieve I was back in those days, because I was watching in dismay on TV as they were dumping all those helicopters into the ocean. I thought to myself – what an awful waste of valuable equipment. But of course the arms manufacturers and the military weren’t upset at all, because they knew all this stuff would be replaced at the US taxpayers expense. As each chopper went over the side, they probably all jumped for joy as they anticipated nice juicy contracts coming their way.
Comment by Talbot — March 7, 2016 @ 6:26 am
Actually that was the brilliant idea of the CIA. They said when the song started playing they were going to start evacuating people. Now if they had all this planned out ahead of time,why’d they wait till the minute to start pulling people out? Nobody planned any of that out. I remember the pictures of them pushing aircraft off the flight deck,to make room for people. If they had a song to tell people to get out of Dodge,then you can’t tell me they didn’t know Uncle Ho’s people were heading south. I jumped up and down wanting infantry. I wanted to go to Nam. With the exception of my ex wife,Nam was my biggest mistake. LBJ was smart. He got out before it was too late. He was a big shareholder in Brown and Root. Guess who had a huge construction contract in South Vietnam . Everybody and their cousin had been trying to invade that country since man learned to walk upright. Nobody ever learns.
Comment by Tim — March 7, 2016 @ 7:59 am
You wrote: My own personal preference is to use “Shoah” when I speak of Jews only and “Holocaust” when I include other Nazi victims like the Soviet POWs, the disabled, ethnic Poles, etc. I do admit that I get lazy and say “Holocaust” when I only mean Jews.
The “disabled” are not part of the Holocaust. The disabled were pathetic creatures that were walking on all fours and could not speak; they were killed at Hartheim castle after the father of one of these pathetic creatures asked Hitler for permission to have his son put to death.
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 12:32 pm
“The “disabled” are not part of the Holocaust. The disabled were pathetic creatures that were walking on all fours and could not speak; they were killed at Hartheim castle after the father of one of these pathetic creatures asked Hitler for permission to have his son put to death.”
All of the disabled were pathetic creatures who walked on all fours and could not speak? I doubt that.
What it does show is the genocidal streak in the ideology of National Socialism.
After all, the T-4 program consumed GERMANS.
If the Nazis showed a willingness to kill their own, why wouldn’t they kill others who were not Germans?
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 1:12 pm
Jeff…..quote “If the Nazis showed a willingness to kill their own, why wouldn’t they kill others who were not Germans”?
But it was OK for the US to do these same type of things, experiments etc………not to mention how many millions of innocent babies are killed each year by infanticide and financed by the Govt.
Interesting how the Germans were the bad guys but all the other Govts are innocent…..
When is murder murder? When is it applied across the board? The evil people were the “Nazis” but everyone else gets a pass.
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 1:33 pm
Jeff…..quote “If the Nazis showed a willingness to kill their own, why wouldn’t they kill others who were not Germans”?
“But it was OK for the US to do these same type of things, experiments etc………”
I’m not denying those things happened.
I’ve also mentioned the genocide against Native Americans in this country.
“not to mention how many millions of innocent babies are killed each year by infanticide and financed by the Govt.”
Financed, not forced.
In the US the mother has the choice. This does not include children already born.
The Nazis gassed and injected children and adults.
“Interesting how the Germans were the bad guys but all the other Govts are innocent…..”
I’ve never said that.
I simply look at Nazi Germany realistically and put Hitler in his proper historical perspective. You don’t.
“When is murder murder? When is it applied across the board? The evil people were the “Nazis” but everyone else gets a pass.”
Unfortunately for Nazi Germany it lost so its warts were put on display.
It’s taken decades for the crimes of Stalin and Mao to come to light. Unfortunately neither man can be punished for their wrongdoings.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 1:54 pm
Jeff wrote: “Unfortunately for Nazi Germany it lost so its warts were put on display.”
Or……America just always needs to make up false warts and turn inocuous things into warts about others in order to hide her own hideous face. No surprise in fact. When you are a Manichaean sanctimonious childish wannabe-hero, you need to depict others as cruel devils to make your own image more glittering. After all, what kind of people still talk about ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ after the age of six like Americans often do? Idiots…
Comment by hermie — March 4, 2016 @ 7:48 pm
FURTHERGLORY. The Euthanasia programm of mass murder of persons considered disabled trained many of those SS men later sent to continue murder in the Death Camps. See the story of Stangl.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 1:32 am
I wrote about Franz Stangl on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/franz-stangl/
Many years ago, there was a film, made by the Germans, which showed the “disabled” people just before they were killed. That film is no longer shown, so that True Believers can now claim that people who were only mildly disabled were killed. The killing of the disabled is now including among the victims of the Holocaust.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 6:10 am
Well wasn’t that nice of the Jews to share some of the spotlight with the disabled people. Wonder what the Jews got out of it.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 6:14 am
Tim, why do you assume Jews got anything out of the T-4 program?
I think that you are spending way too much time on denier websites, it is warping your perception of reality.
Give me a moment…
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:32 am
I’m just like some of the other people here. I’m questioning some of what happened. I don’t even know where to look for these sites you call “denial websites”
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 7:12 am
To find “denial websites” go to google to do your searching. Skip down past the first 10 websites and you will find the denial websites. The top 10 websites will be True Believer web sites.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:17 am
If the first 10 hits to pop up are believer sites,then it sounds like a person can figure out who runs the Internet. Well if a persons search term is “denial websites”, then why does it return believer sites as the first ten.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 8:29 am
Tim, go here:
http://www.nizkor.org/qar-complete.cgi
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:42 am
This is a very old website; the people who put up this website are all dead now, and it has not been updated. There are numerous mistakes made by nizkor. However, it is a good website for a beginner to read to understand how the Holocaust story evolved over time.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 6:51 am
It still has very useful information.
This is why I gave Tim multiple choices. I think he needs to change things up a bit.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:57 am
You are highly educated, but only on one side of history. There are two sides of history, as you well know. You know the Jewish version of history, but not the other side of the story. Start by asking yourself: Why are there so many Holocaust deniers?
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:06 am
Thank you FG ! Shut Jeffry down. I’ve told people in the past,I listen to,”both sides of the story here”. I draw my own conclusions. I’m not one of those people in the different countries that have holo denial laws in place. They’re not given the luxury of “deciding for themselves”
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 7:25 am
I’m educated on both sides.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 7:39 am
So you have read both sides of the Holocaust story? I blogged about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/09/25/after-the-rialto-holocaust-assignment-fiasco-students-will-now-study-the-holocaust-chronicle-a-jewish-history-of-the-holocaust/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:56 am
Yes, I’ve read both sides.
Holocaust denial simply makes no sense.
Holocaust denial attempts to debunk history however it offers no plausible alternative that it can prove.
It’s reasoning on why the Holocaust is a hoax makes no sense whatsoever.
Plus, I’ve said this before but it bears repeating, Holocaust denial is driven by nauseating Anti-Semetism plus a glorification of National Socialism and Adolph Hitler.
Now, there are exceptions to the above statement, Bradley Smith was one (he once described a meeting with a fellow denier. He stated that he wanted to punch the man in the face because this person advocated killing Jews, including women and children). But those exceptions are few.
Are there anomalies about the Holocaust that are hard to explain? Sure, but that’s true of any historical event.
Are some Holocaust survivors stories hard to believe? Sure, but memories erode over time.
So, in the end, history wins.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 8:23 am
You wrote: “So, in the end, history wins.” You are correct that “history wins”. There is a denier born every minute.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 8:31 am
Possibly, yes.
But, people believe in all sorts of weird crap that has nothing to do with reality.
There was a recent flap about some rap artist who is convinced that the earth is flat.
The older I get the more convinced I am that God is trying to remember why he thought giving mankind a shot over the dinosaurs was such a good idea.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 8:54 am
A rap singer. People are actually stupid enough to believe them. They sing about their”Ho’s,drinking a couple 40’s and busting some caps in someone’s ass”. Like Zaeger and Evans sang,”Gods gonna look around and say,guess it’s time for the judgement day”. However the Jews being the chosen ones will do all right. Yeah. The only reason they are his chosen,is because at the time it was a toss up between the Jews and Pagans. Not much of a choice. I would’ve went with the Pagans myself.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 9:09 am
Then maybe you can explain why the Nazis sent children to the UK before the Holocaust started. I wrote about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/why-did-the-nazis-send-10000-jewish-children-to-england-just-before-they-began-the-killing-of-6-million-jews/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 8:13 am
Those children left in 1938. That was before the war even started. The plan in the 30’s was emigration, not extermination.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 8:46 am
You are correct that the plan was “emigration” but no one wanted the Jews, not even in America. Why didn’t other countries want the Jews? What’s not to like!
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 9:17 am
Nice dodge.
I’ve noticed, yet again, that while I keep asking but no denier seems to know:
If the Nazis did not commit genocide (even though T-4 proves Nazi willingness to do do) where did the Jews go?
Transit camps? To where, exactly?
If to the Soviet Union, I want camp names and commanders. I’ll accept witness and perpetrator testimony. I would prefer documentation.
Hungarian Jews transited through Birkenau? Where?
I’m not asking where 70,000 went. We’ve accounted for those.
Where did the other 300,000 go?
I don’t need more information about crematorium or how Zyclon B works. I don’t want an argument about diesel fumes or whether or not you can cremate 800,000 people on open air grates.
It’s simple:
Tell me where the Jews went and provide proof. I don’t want speculation, I want proof.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 10:09 am
Here is a blog post that I wrote, which will further your education: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/02/04/how-11-year-old-mala-langholz-a-jewish-girl-fooled-the-nazis-and-survived-the-gas-chamber/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 8:20 am
Hogans Heroes parody…..
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 5, 2016 @ 8:35 am
Making fun of survivor’s stories does not prove Holocaust denial.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 8:48 am
I love survivor stories. Here is a survivor story that is one of my favorites: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/stories-told-by-bert-schapelhouman-a-dutch-survivor-of-mauthausen/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 9:27 am
I’m glad you love them.
I don’t pay much attention.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 9:40 am
Tell you what. I make up my own God Damned mind on any subject. Don’t ever sit there and say,”I think Tim needs to change things up a bit”. You ain’t moma or daddy. Nobody tells me what I need to do. You better drag your lil punk ass bitch self over to the clock. Wake up see what time it is. Don’t like what I write,don’t read it. I ain’t nobodies kid
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 7:21 am
Relax, Tim.
I’m not telling you what to believe. I’m not telling you what to read, watch or listen to.
What I am trying to do is show you more than what you are getting here.
I’m not insulting you or your intelligence.
If you have no interest on the links I’ve posted, fine. I thought you might have an interest in what I’ve posted as an alternative to what you are reading here. If you don’t, if you’ve made up your mind, fine.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 7:37 am
I’ve also noted plenty of times that I take both sides. I’m like FG. FG will get outside sources and put links to them on this site. I’m subscribed to the holocaust museum newsletters they send out. I poke around and see what the “Jew Defense League ” has to say. I find it rather funny that the Jews want to act like innocent people,but they have people like irv Rubin and his boyfriend Earl krugel wanting to blow up mosques and send bombs to elected officials. Thought it was funny though. Irv Rubin was locked down in L A County Jail waiting for his trial and he offed himself. Most Jews I’ve ever known have a shit attitude towards blacks. Guess while in L A County Jail,poor ol Irv couldn’t handle gettin his ass kicked by the blacks. Yeah,he’s one bad ass Jew
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 8:52 am
Here is the story of how google ranks websites:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/04/Google_Jews.html
https://books.google.com/books?id=NfkonH0VcT0C&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=Jews+went+to+google+and+demanded+Jew+websites+be+put+on+top+of+search&source=bl&ots=6nnYHO1Lnx&sig=ofh7iLsYGKOPs-BRRie2zdLdQ-s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4ksOp76nLAhVE5mMKHca8CIwQ6AEIKjAC#v=onepage&q=Jews%20went%20to%20google%20and%20demanded%20Jew%20websites%20be%20put%20on%20top%20of%20search&f=false
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:39 am
This is also an excellent site that debunks denial.
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/?m=1
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:44 am
Here is another really good website.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150202001401/http://www.holocaust-history.org/
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:45 am
Here is information about the T-4 Program:
http://www.britannica.com/event/T4-Program
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:48 am
I wrote about the T-4 program on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/t4-program/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:02 am
Here is information on how the Poles were treated:
https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/people/USHMMPOL.HTM
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:51 am
Here is information on how Soviet POWs were treated.
http://www.historynet.com/soviet-prisoners-of-war-forgotten-nazi-victims-of-world-war-ii.htm
There is a lot of good information out there, Tim.
Let me know if you want anything else.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:54 am
And here is information about how German POWs were treated: http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/General/HnetPrisoners1.html
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:10 am
Here is information about how the Soviets treated their POWs. https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/eisenhowers-death-camps/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:13 am
Here is information about how the German POWs were treated: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/eisenhowers-death-camps/
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 7:24 am
FG. I thought the railroad hub was in Alliance, Nebraska. It’s the hub for Burlington Northern. Is that the same for North Platte. I don’t know. I lived in Scottsbluff years back and that’s the only railroad Hub I recall in the state. Just asking .
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 4:15 am
The Baily Yard in North Platte is the largest railroad yard in the world. There might be a small railroad hub in Alliance, Nebraska although I have never heard of it. I just now consulted a railroad expert, via cell phone, and he has never heard of Alliance, Nebraska.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 5:48 am
It’s there. Back in ’95 they merged with Santa Fe. It’s a huge yard. I had a buddy back in the early 80’s . He worked there. I went to visit him back then. I remember while I was there his wife was always on his ass about the grease from the rail yard he would drag in their house
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 6:08 am
The important point is that Auschwitz was a railroad hub and that is why it was chosen by Himmler as a transit camp, as well as a concentration camp. I wrote about this on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/why-auschwitz-was-chosen-by-the-germans-as-the-location-of-their-largest-camp/
The prisoners who arrived at Auschwitz and were then transferred to another camp were not registered. The people who were allegedly gassed were also not registered. This is the basis for the Holocaust story.
Comment by furtherglory — March 5, 2016 @ 6:19 am
I’m guessing that’s why the Jews never want to share the stage with any of the other people that were killed along with them. Might take away the attention they desperately seek.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 7:09 am
FURTHERGLOY. From many comments I made You can note that I am looking for the historical background of Shoah events in the frame of WWII and its deep ecnomical and social causes about which I could not submit a doctor dissertation. In USA European history, geography and demography is not studied in right way. It seems that Wilson admitted the have not had knowledge about the problem of ethnic Germans in Cechoslovachia; so we can explain how this causedth the Sudeten crisis. I guess that the problem of ethnic Germans in PolJuand, Rumenia, Yugoslavia and Italy had not been considered neither. Both tearpressing stories and negationism meet large market shares and so find publishers, tv screens, etc.
Just consider that the LAST OF THE UNJUST had critical reviews on certain press and the book of my Father about Theresienstadt does not interest any Publisher in USA and UK while the German version got an Austrian state subvention and had very good reviews on German and Austrian press.
Best.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 6, 2016 @ 9:12 am
Hey wolf. A question please. I’ve been trying to get this answered,but no one has answer I guess . Now I know study the historical aspect of Jews in WW2,but where do think everything started with the Jews? It went back further than hitler. I think it’s safe to say Shakespeare gave his opinion of the Jews in ,”The Merchant of Venice”. When Hadrian first took the helm he lured 50,000 Hebs into open territory,where his army wiped all of them out. When his reign began,it was listed as the last Jew uprising. Now Hadrian hated Jews,so I’m guessing the attitude towards Jews went back further than Hadrian. With that being said,how far back do you think the strife went with the Jews ?
Comment by Tim — March 6, 2016 @ 4:21 pm
Why are the Jews hated…..It goes back to the Bible and how God dealt with them.
They once represented him as a people to emulate but that didn’t last long they didn’t want to obey God and went their merry way……
So if any of you care to see where it all went went and how God dealt with the Jews I put together with DK’s help a good account of it from the Bible itself.
Why not go back to the beginning where it all went wrong for them, right?
Instead of being a chosen nation representing God they became a hated apostate nation in opposition to him and to this day they are an abomination to him.
Have a look if you really care to find out.
The Jews as a nation represented God on the earth at one time. But that didn’t last long as the Jews became a stiff neck and hard hearted people they rejected God and His commandments and turned away from him. They forgot him…. see Judges chapter 2, vs 7, 10, 11, Acts chapter 7 verses 51 through 53
God would subsequently forget them and cast them off from representing him anymore.
The Bible is quite specific in what happened here at First Samuel 8 vs 7 Jeremiah 8 vs 9, Matthew chapter 21 vs 42 + 43, Chapter 22 verse 14, Matt 23, vs 39
Hosea 4 vs 6, Ezekiel 5, 5+6, 20, 13-15,
In fact the Bible will show that the word Jew would actually be a byword or a word that would be used in a contemptible unflattering way about the Jews this can be seen in Psalms 44 vs 14, and 69 vs11 Deuteronomy 28 vs 37
1 Thessalonians 2, 24-16, 1Kings 9, 7+8, Jeremiah 24 vs 9, 2 Chronicles 2 vs 20
They would actually be called the synagogue of Satan in the book of Revelation and this would be in Revelation chapter 2 vs 9, and 3 vs 9.
Christianity would replace the Israelite’s (apostate Jews) as God’s chosen people and they would be called the Israel of God Galatians 6 vs 10, Chap 3 vs 28 and all of the Galatians 4.
God’s people would be spiritual Israelite’s not physical Israelite’s
Romans 2, 28-29, 9 v 6, 11 25-36, 1Peter 2, 9+10
We now as Christians are faced with the obligation that is presented to us at Deuteronomy chapter 30 vs 15 – 20.
Short version……by the way….
Jim Rizoli
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Comment by jrizoli — March 6, 2016 @ 5:11 pm
Another question please. I read a couple days back, “Papa Joe” (Stalin) hated Jews as much as Hitler. It said he was packing them off to forced labor camps,just like Uncle Adolph . So why is it nobody wants to drop on those Red Bastards and make them fork over some scratch to the Jews ? Now I’ve read that Berlin “donated” ( hey.thats how the article worded it. Id tell the leeching bastards pay for the shot yourself) 2 submarines to the Israelis . Israel split the bill with Berlin on the 3rd sub ( aww. Wasn’t that sweet of them to do that). Israel reminds me of the “welfare cases”,you see everyday. Not a damn thing wrong with them. They just want to leech off everyone else. So how many other countries does Israel leech off of like that? If I was that country,I’d be ashamed to show my face.
Comment by Tim — March 7, 2016 @ 10:07 am
Jeff……If you say that the Shoah, Holocaust, whatever is the event that talks about the Jews being put in work camps then yes, we agree with it.
If you are saying that they were brought to these camps to be exterminated than NO, we don’t agree with that story.
It doesn’t fit with the facts that we have come across.
Sure Jews died but they weren’t targeted to be exterminated. They died as did others who got sick in the camps and sadly died of “natural” causes”….but not heinous murderous intentions brought upon them by the Germans.
Thats not to say the criminal Jews didn’t suffer an extermination or were purposely killed…. they most likely were but the majority didn’t experience this fate.
If You broke the law you would most likely end up dead, it’s called cause and effect…….no different than what happened in the USA with treasonous criminals who tried to cause harm to our country.
So lets get it straight on what we are calling it…..
My take on it and I will stand corrected if shown to be wrong….Less then 500,000 people were in the camps system, half of them might of died and half of them might of been Jews, a far cry from the elusive six million deaths that they have parading around for the last 100 yrs….the six million figure goes way back even before the 2 wars.
It’s hard to get a correct figure because the sources vary from place to place number wise so I just averaged it out basing it on how many Jews survived.
That to me is the most telling figure. You start with x and end with x…..pretty simple math.
As Norman Finklestein’s mother (Holocaust Survivor) said, more or less substance of thought …..with so many Jews surviving then who died…..
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Do your home work and don’t let the Jewish propaganda machine mislead you…..
The truth is out there…..
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 12:32 pm
FURTHERGLORY. The puritan fault searching of disputing details only in order to deny the fate of at least six milion European Jews disappeared during the Shoah – exterminated by forced labor, starvation, deseases due to life in over.over crowded Ghettoes or Camps, mass executions, Gas Chambers – is neonazi antisemitsm.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 7, 2016 @ 8:53 am
Wolf…… the six million Jews didn’t die they survived or most of them did anyway.
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 7, 2016 @ 9:27 am
wolf wrote: “Th puritan fault searchers who pretend to look for forensic evidences did not realize that expert criminals – and the Nazis had beem expert criminals – find every possible way to destruct remains and other probes.”
No need to concede once again that the Holohoax is supported by no credible physical and documentary evidence, wolf. Most of us already knew it.
Do I fail to see the elephant in my bedroom because it is very welll hidden or because there’s no elephant in my bedroom? Holocaust believing conspiracy theorists claim option 1 is the right answer. Holohoax demolishers say option 2 is obvious. The age old struggle of faith vs. reason.
wolf wrote: “USA and UK goverments learned the full truth not later than Jannuary 1943 but did not care about the matter.”
They cared about the matter and they used it in vilifying statements for atrocity propaganda purposes. But they indeed did nothing. They did nothing because no genocide was taking place and they knew it. Words cost nothing while actions have a price. Actions speak louder than words. Holocaust conspiracy theorists claim that the Allied leaders were just a gang of careless bastards who left millions of Jews to die without lifting a finger, when they were in fact well-informed people knowing the Holohoax was only commonplace atrocity propaganda.
Comment by hermie — March 5, 2016 @ 8:00 am
HERMIE. So among friends. I feel that certain governments wanted Hitler to do the “dirty work” and then have to show a reason to atack and anihilate Germany. After the Jews the Germans. Indeed the increasing discrimiination and persecution of Jews before September 1, 1939 had been considered as internal affair of Germany and not even mentioned at Nueremberg.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 6, 2016 @ 1:40 am
wolf wrote: “I feel that certain governments wanted Hitler to do the “dirty work””
Groundless conspiracy theory. The genocidal part of the ‘Holocaust’ is conspiracy theory. Beside the words ‘nazi’ and ‘war’, the words which were most used at the Nuremberg IMT were ‘conspiracy’ and ‘conspirators’. Atrocity propaganda is just the way democracies wars. Lies are in democratic DNA. And the Anglo-American All-lies were experts in that field.
Comment by hermie — March 6, 2016 @ 8:50 am
edit: the way democracies wage wars
Comment by hermie — March 6, 2016 @ 8:51 am
HERMIE. Not a theory rather the result of histrocial analisys. Think over it.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 6, 2016 @ 10:03 am
Why do all the religious bigots of this work always say that?
Comment by hermie — March 7, 2016 @ 6:27 pm
edit: bigots of this world
Comment by hermie — March 8, 2016 @ 7:38 am
Adler said that the babies were thrown up in the air and used as target practice.
Honestly, “target practice”?? — how high could an average man throw an average baby?
Anyway, I don’t see how anyone who claims something like that happened can have any credibility whatsoever — but these stories are generally believed, which shows not only how reluctant people are to question even the most absurd stories told by ‘Holocaust’ survivors, but also how willing they are to believe even the worst imaginable things about German behavior during WWII.
Comment by eah — March 4, 2016 @ 9:30 am
eah. Not only drunk fanatical SS men but also so called comon criminals found it amusand to throw a babie in hight and target it for shooting. For organized crime – like Mafia – this is a mean to insult its parents as some events here had shown.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 1:39 am
Your confusing the Mafia with the Medellin Cartel. Mafia policy has always been,”leave the family alone”. On the other hand you have people like Escobar and Lehder. They’d bring an entire airliner down out of the sky,just to get to one person. Those are the folks most likely to kill babies,not the mafia.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 5:23 am
TIM, eah: There had been babies and little child killed by Mafia, Camorra, etc, here in Italy.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 6:29 am
Unlike the US Mafia the Sicilian Mafia will murder family members.
Comment by Jeff K. — March 5, 2016 @ 6:34 am
I didn’t know the meaning of the word blog or weblog until someone contacted me, several years ago, after reading my website pages about Dachau. He was doing research for a book that he was writing about the prisoners who were sent from Dachau to South Tyrol just before the camp was liberated. His theory was that these prisoners were sent out of the camp in order to kill them. I disagreed with this opinion, but I tried to help him. He eventually gave up his project and I never heard from him again. I did, however, start a blog of my own which I have been writing for around 5 years.
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 7:45 am
“During the selection process at Birkenau, Jack Adler and his father were directed to the right, but were not registered in the camp. They were held in quarantine at Birkenau for a few weeks, and were then sent to work in one of the eleven Kaufering sub-camps of Dachau near Munich, Germany.”
Well, that put’s paid to the assertion that all those who weren’t registered at Auschwitz were immediately sent to the “gas chambers”. From what Mr Adler is telling us, Birkenau was being used as a transit stop-over in 1944 for much-needed labour in Germany and Poland. Just look where he finished up – two or three hundred miles to the SOUTH-WEST of Auschwitz, at Dachau, where he was employed in one of the Kaufering sub-camps.
“Adler told the audience at the University of Wyoming that “mothers with infants had their children ripped from their arms when they refused to give them up. Adler said that the babies were thrown up in the air and used as target practice.”
Now, what kind of sane human being would go along to a university and lecture the students with this crapulous, totally untrue story. Has he got no shame at all. The students in Wyoming would be far better off learning about the fate of the Plains Indians – i.e;- the native American people who were more or less wiped out or dispersed into Reservations back during the 19th century – rather than listen to this dead-beat old Jew with his highly-embellished stories from Skokie in Chicago.
Comment by Talbot — March 4, 2016 @ 7:43 am
“During the selection process at Birkenau, Jack Adler and his father were directed to the right, but were not registered in the camp. They were held in quarantine at Birkenau for a few weeks, and were then sent to work in one of the eleven Kaufering sub-camps of Dachau near Munich, Germany.”
“Well, that put’s paid to the assertion that all those who weren’t registered at Auschwitz were immediately sent to the “gas chambers”. From what Mr Adler is telling us, Birkenau was being used as a transit stop-over in 1944 for much-needed labour in Germany and Poland. Just look where he finished up – two or three hundred miles to the SOUTH-WEST of Auschwitz, at Dachau, where he was employed in one of the Kaufering sub-camps.”
Is there any evidence that he was not registered at the camp where he wound up?
My assertion all along is that wherever these Jews wound up they were registered. So, there is a paper trail.
Maybe he was not registered at Birkenau. Fine. But the camp authorities registered him when he arrived at his final stop because they had to account for the bodies they had in order to house, feed and clothe them.
“Adler told the audience at the University of Wyoming that “mothers with infants had their children ripped from their arms when they refused to give them up. Adler said that the babies were thrown up in the air and used as target practice.”
“Now, what kind of sane human being would go along to a university and lecture the students with this crapulous, totally untrue story.”
Then why would you believe him when he said the authorities didn’t register him at Birkenau?
Maybe he lied about that.
I’ve noticed that deniers are very selective in how they treat survivor or alleged survivor testimony.
For example, Elie Wiesel stated that he was given a choice to stay or leave at Birkenau when the Germans evacuated.
Now, for some reason this is now extended to all camps, that the Germans gave the inmates the choice to stay or leave.
But, then comes the assertion that Wiesel is a fraud, that the Germans never incarcerated him and he hid out.
So, doesn’t that immediately invalidate his testimony? Doesn’t that mean the inmates were never given the choice to stay or leave?
“Has he got no shame at all. The students in Wyoming would be far better off learning about the fate of the Plains Indians – i.e;- the native American people who were more or less wiped out or dispersed into Reservations back during the 19th century”
I completely agree. Students need to learn that genocide is a part of the history of all mankind, not just the Jews.
” rather than listen to this dead-beat old Jew with his highly-embellished stories from Skokie in Chicago.”
Unless what he says adds fuel to the denier fire.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 8:03 am
Jeff writes;- “Then why would you believe him when he said the authorities didn’t register him at Birkenau?
Maybe he lied about that.”
Yes, you’re quite right – we’ve got no evidence that he was ever inside Auschwitz, nor that the target practise story is true. Thus, it is highly irresponsible for a university in Wyoming to permit Mr Adler to lecture students before asking him to produce some kind of corroboration of what he is telling them is actually true.
Comment by Talbot — March 4, 2016 @ 8:46 am
You wrote: “From what Mr Adler is telling us, Birkenau was being used as a transit stop-over in 1944 for much-needed labour in Germany and Poland.”
I have written many times, on my website and on my blog, that Auschwitz was a RAILROAD HUB, similar to North Platte, Nebraska, in America. Trains could go from anywhere in Europe to Auschwitz and from Auschwitz to any place in Europe. Jews were sent to Auschwitz and then transferred to other camps. This has led to the claim that Jews, who were sent to Auschwitz but not registered, were gassed at Auschwitz.
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 8:16 am
Odd that he was not registered, so I would assume he didn’t have a tattoo?
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 8:25 am
I would think that if the camp never registered him he never got a tattoo.
That’s all speculation on my part, of course.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — March 4, 2016 @ 8:29 am
Jeff….my question is does he have or show one in his Horror Disneyland tour at the schools
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 8:35 am
I am sure this even bolstered his HoloHoax ways…..
http://www.jta.org/2013/06/20/news-opinion/the-telegraph/nazis-marching-through-skokie
By the way the “Nazi who was responsible for this was a Jew……interesting story behind that one…..LOL
http://www.americanussr.com/nazi-leaders-jewish.htm
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Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 8:32 am
What Frank Collin(Joseph) ex Skokie Nazi ringleader….is into today….
Scumbag!
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 8:39 am
I zoomed in on North Platte on Google Earth – and my goodness, you are right FG. It is a massive railway hub situated in the very heart of the USA. Maybe Auschwitz was not quite on this scale, but it certainly was a major railway junction, with lines going off in all directions – northwards into Poland and the Baltic Coast; westwards into Germany, Denmark, France and the Low Countries; and southwards into Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, Italy and the Balkan countries. In addition Auschwitz sat in a region of very heavy industry where large numbers of workers were always required, and raw materials and finished goods needed to be transported.
Comment by Talbot — March 4, 2016 @ 9:03 am
FG wrote: “Auschwitz was a RAILROAD HUB, similar to North Platte, Nebraska, in America. Trains could go from anywhere in Europe to Auschwitz and from Auschwitz to any place in Europe.”
“The reason why Auschwitz was selected by the steam-ship lines as the main point where to establish their agencies in Galicia was because it is the only town which is in direct railway communication with the German sea-ports.” – Vienna Fremden Blatt, November 14, 1889 (http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2016/01/1887-88-outrage-at-auschwitz.html).
Comment by hermie — March 4, 2016 @ 7:21 pm
“Adler said that the babies were thrown up in the air and used as target practice”
Hey. All soldiers need to practice sometimes… 😉
Comment by hermie — March 4, 2016 @ 8:39 am
Actually babies being thrown in the. Air,is the brainchild of the Niponese. They pulled that shit when they captured Nan King. Obviously this guy,read that somewhere and thought,”hey I can put that in my story and make people think the nazis pulled that crap
Comment by Tim — March 4, 2016 @ 9:11 am
Tim wrote: “Actually babies being thrown in the. Air,is the brainchild of the Niponese. They pulled that shit when they captured Nan King. ”
Unless that stuff is just another war lie.
There are, it seems, a lot of lies (including many photographic forgeries) about the Nanking massacre too.
Tim wrote: “Obviously this guy,read that somewhere and thought,”hey I can put that in my story and make people think the nazis pulled that crap”
Sounds more like a mere variation of the bayoneted Belgian babies of WW1…
Comment by hermie — March 4, 2016 @ 7:03 pm
No actually history is full of scenarios like that . My personal favorite has always been,”Vlad the Impaler” (AKA Dracula). Roast the babies,feed them to their mothers. Cut the breasts from the mothers and feed them to the fathers. For the magnum opus,we impale the leftovers. I’m more willing to accept the story of the Nips bayoneting the babies. Reason being they convinced lots of Civies to commit suicide when we landed at Okinawa. Told them ( the Civies) Americans were savages. So they bought the whole lie from the Nips and committed mass suicide. Hell let’s not forget the Ruskies. The shit they pulled on the women in Berlin has been labeled as the largest “mass rape” in history. It never fails. The topic of war crimes is bought up concerning WW2 and the war crimes of other nations are swept under the proverbial “carpet”. The Krauts are the only ones to commit such horrific acts in WW2. Yeah right. Nobody ever wants to mention the other stunts pulled by the allies.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 5:10 am
Tim wrote: “No actually history is full of scenarios like that . I’m more willing to accept the story of the Nips bayoneting the babies.”
A credible story and a true story are two distinct things.
Tim wrote: “Reason being they convinced lots of Civies to commit suicide when we landed at Okinawa. Told them ( the Civies) Americans were savages. So they bought the whole lie from the Nips and committed mass suicide.”
A lie??? 😉
Tim wrote: “Hell let’s not forget the Ruskies. The shit they pulled on the women in Berlin has been labeled as the largest “mass rape” in history. ”
While the mass rapes and other brutalities perpetrated by US troops in England, France, the Low Countries, and of course Germany during WW2 never made its way to history books. Some timid and rare echoes in France at most, but nothing commensurate with the size of the crime. Maybe that was because the Soviet Union collapsed when the United States is still standing. Perhaps that was too because the Soviet Union spent 5 decades in the ranks of the democracies’ alleged Axis of Evil.
Tim wrote: “The Krauts are the only ones to commit such horrific acts in WW2. Yeah right. Nobody ever wants to mention the other stunts pulled by the allies.”
Probably the reason why the Allies made up such horrific acts. Something like Stalin’s claims about Treblinka. Uncle Joe began to claim that the Germans were exhuming and cremating hundreds of thousands corpses at Treblinka at the precise moment when the latter were exhuming and exposing thousands of corpses at Katyn. The trick work very well, and now everybody knows the Katyn massacre was perpetrated by the Soviets, that real event looks very insignificant in comparison to the fictional gigantic mass murder at Treblinka. On that one, Stalin succeeded in whitewashing himself with false claims about larger atrocities. It seems that a big lie is stronger than a [relatively] small crime after all…
The Allied aerial Germanocide of millions looks insignificant in comparison to the Big H lie. The Holohoax obliterates any Allied mass murder of WW2. All is fair in a war against the devil himself, isn’t it?
Comment by hermie — March 5, 2016 @ 7:33 am
edit: ‘never made their way’ instead of ‘never made its way’
Comment by hermie — March 5, 2016 @ 7:35 am
My memory ain’t that bad. I can pretty much recall what I wrote. If other people can’t , they can refer back to my comments. So don’t lay your BS off on me. I’m the one that questions why the allies were made out to be such Angels. I learned that old adage first hand when I went to ‘Nam. “In war,truth is the first casualty”. The holocaust was just another piece of the puzzle that made up WW2. I’m still waiting for the difinitive answer as to why nobody ever nailed the allies for bombing Dresden back to the stone age. Why nobody ever said anything about the Reds and their orgy of rape and murder in Berlin . Those are rhetorical questions. I pretty much know the answer. Like Nietzsche once quoted,”there are no facts,only interpretations”.
Comment by Tim — March 5, 2016 @ 7:54 am
Tim wrote: “So don’t lay your BS off on me. ”
What BS exactly?
Tim wrote: ” I’m still waiting for the difinitive answer as to why nobody ever nailed the allies for bombing Dresden back to the stone age. ”
Because all is fair in a war against the devil himself, as I wrote in my previous comment. You can test that around yourself. Try to mention the bombing on Dresden with friends and relatives, and you’ll see the Holohoax will enter the scene during the very first minute.
Comment by hermie — March 5, 2016 @ 8:10 am
Took Adler a few years to cook up a story that was both believable and of credit to him (unlike the truth). The while, he got to look at others in a similar position make their tries, and he gauged reactions. Same thing (war) veterans and anybody else does who is in a position to claim a presence in a well-known event. Forrest Gump, if you will.
Until the moment to strike, mum’s the word. Don’t want your story CHANGING, after all!
Comment by Jett Rucker — March 4, 2016 @ 7:24 am
When the Holocaust survivors go to the HoloHoax conventions then they change all their stories when they get back home because they incorporate all of the lies into one amazing lie. These people couldn’t have an original thought is all based on what other people have lied about also the bigger the lie the more people believe it that’s the way it is.
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 7:29 am
jrizoli. I sincerely regret that you and many other negationsts never passed through traumatic events.So you ignore that survivors when meeting for a remembrance cerimony carefully avoid to speak about the deatail of their painfull experiences. Beside the deep lack of human feeling and manners you show a great ignorance of history too.
Comment by Wolf Murmelsteine — March 5, 2016 @ 1:48 am
So what’s the big deal he was in a work camp he survived he made it to the United States and that was it. A Jews history is more important than anyone elses. Have you ever noticed that it’s only Jew stories that make it into the news have you ever heard of a Christian being in the camps and having a story to tell, l no, because his/her story doesn’t matter only the Jews matter. They’re the most important people on the earth so I get a kick out of all this when I read these because the camp system saved them and then they making a story about it to make themselves look good and of course they have to lie about what happened which I don’t understand if you going to tell a story at least make a truthful but they don’t they always have to lie despicable people these people are they should be ashamed of themselves but again they will answer to God in the last day.
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Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 6:41 am
Jimbo. Thank you Jesus ! Was waiting for someone to say that. What about the Gypsies,gays or Catholics? I’m sure they’re stories are equally compelling. I don’t much care for gypsies or gays,but the fact remains they’re still human beings. They had every right to life like the Jews . African/Americans. Okay maybe they were never sent to the nazi camps,but a lot of them ended up,swinging from a hangmans finest noose. If not that,some inbred rednecks would gladly tie them to a tree,for a friendly beating. Yeah you still got some blacks playing the,”feel sorry for me,cause I’m a poor abused black man,” sympathy card,but they don’t do it on a grand scale like the Jews .
Comment by Tim — March 4, 2016 @ 7:04 am
Tim wrote: “Yeah you still got some blacks playing the,”feel sorry for me,cause I’m a poor abused black man,” sympathy card,but they don’t do it on a grand scale like the Jews .”
Unlike the Zionist Jews, the Blacks don’t need to conceal by diversion the activities of a Black rogue nation busy ethnically cleansing a land of its natives somewhere.
US Goyim, look at my unparalleled Shoah, not at their insignificant (so insignificant it’s almost nonexistent; negligible and neglected) Nakba. What? You don’t want to? What kind of monster are you? An evil-antisemite-who-wants-to-kill-6-million-Jews or something? No, Sir. Errrr. No, Master. Of course I’m not!! I’m even willing to pay for the defense of Israel. Game over…
The Zionists are liars and bullies. Talented terrorists. Can’t you feel the terror? You’d better feel it…
Comment by hermie — March 4, 2016 @ 7:49 am
Bottom line,we all got our own lil problems. Blacks had the injustices done to them too,but they dealt with the past and moved on. Jews just keep driving the wedge in deeper. I don’t even see how the Berliners can identify with themselves as being German. The Jews just wish to keep injecting Berlin with everything that identifies them as Jews .
Comment by Tim — March 4, 2016 @ 9:26 am
Tim wrote: “Blacks had the injustices done to them too,but they dealt with the past and moved on. Jews just keep driving the wedge in deeper.”
Israel’s murderous policies and need of US support are not something of the past, not only something of the past at least. So the Zionists need to keep driving the wedge in deeper and deeper.
Comment by hermie — March 4, 2016 @ 9:39 am
In regards to this holocaust issue then Jews will not allow us to move on they throw in our face everyday so we try to move on and put it past us and would like to forget about it but they are there everyday reminding us that they are God’s chosen people that they were treated disrespectfully by Hitler and they now they’re going to do everything within their power to make it known for generations to come.
Enough already!
JR
Comment by jrizoli — March 4, 2016 @ 10:27 am
This news article implies that Jack Adler has kept quiet all this time, and didn’t even tell his son about his ordeal until recently. That is not the case. Jack Adler was well known in 1998 when I started my website, and included his story on one full page of the website. Jack Adler’s story disproves the Holocaust. His story also illustrates how the Jews have used the Holocaust to make money, and they are still making money from new movies about people like Jack Adler.
Comment by furtherglory — March 4, 2016 @ 7:28 am
And how the Jews are trying to destroy the German race
Comment by Tim — March 4, 2016 @ 9:28 am